Trump muses over renaming Gulf of Mexico ‘Gulf of America’

[Gromdor]

6 minutes ago, Guyver said:

If companies could manage themselves, CEO’s wouldn’t  be so highly paid.

I would say that is proof for the opposite.  They are paid off not to mess with the status quo.

But lets use some examples.

I personally know of a CEO/Owner of a construction company.  He got it from his dad.  He does nothing and lets the company run itself and collects his pay because he owns it.

Another example:  Here are some CEOs that pay themselves $1 https://thehustle.co/1-ceo-salary

And just a read: https://www.cio.com/article/234695/do-you-really-need-a-ceo.html

 

 

[Gromdor]

5 minutes ago, OverSword said:

https://www.newsweek.com/will-china-start-next-world-war-panama-canal-opinion-2010492

 

If it is such an issue and we truly believe in capitalism and the free market, why don't we encourage US companies to directly compete for this real estates?  Why are we talking about using the military, government, and force to solve an economic issue?

[+OverSword]

10 minutes ago, Gromdor said:

If it is such an issue and we truly believe in capitalism and the free market, why don't we encourage US companies to directly compete for this real estates?  Why are we talking about using the military, government, and force to solve an economic issue?

The Panama Canal falls under the umbrella of national security so ensuring there is no Chinese military presence around it is government business by default.

[jmccr8]

5 hours ago, joc said:

What's going on with the Postal Service in Canada?  My wife tried to mail a Christmas present to her longtime friend and it was going to cost $42 to ship an 11oz package. I tried to mail it before Christmas and they said they couldn't even do it. Postal strike?🤔

HI Joc

Yes we had a postal strike that just ended, can't really rember the last time they had one but when they do it's always been at the Christmas season. 

I use the express post and can sent up to 2 lbs for $26 so the price they gave your wife must be what your service charges to ship here I guess. Odd though because the car parts I ordered came from the US and I don' t think shipping was as much as your wife paid. 

[+joc]

35 minutes ago, jmccr8 said:

HI Joc

Yes we had a postal strike that just ended, can't really rember the last time they had one but when they do it's always been at the Christmas season. 

I use the express post and can sent up to 2 lbs for $26 so the price they gave your wife must be what your service charges to ship here I guess. Odd though because the car parts I ordered came from the US and I don' t think shipping was as much as your wife paid. 

I think it was because the only way you to ship it was priority.  She didn't ship it.

[Tatetopa]

1 hour ago, Guyver said:

If companies could manage themselves, CEO’s wouldn’t  be so highly paid.

If you didn't need a mugger to take your watch and wallet,  muggers wouldn't make so much money.

[Tatetopa]

1 hour ago, OverSword said:

The Panama Canal falls under the umbrella of national security so ensuring there is no Chinese military presence around it is government business by default.

Is it really?   Do we use it to get goods from one coast to the other, or is it more a world trade  route that we would like the power to cut off if we want?

[jmccr8]

13 minutes ago, joc said:

I think it was because the only way you to ship it was priority.  She didn't ship it.

During the strike one of my clients asked me to ship a tote box of clothes to Germany so I went to Ups and they wanted over $1100 so told the client the cost and she almost fainted 

[Guyver]

5 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

If you didn't need a mugger to take your watch and wallet,  muggers wouldn't make so much money.

CEO’s make the decisions that guide companies to success.  The skilled ones famously make companies great, and inferior ones get fired by the Board of Directors.  Bad analogy.

[superman73]

On 1/7/2025 at 1:44 PM, Guyver said:

No.  A true idiot cannot manage a billion dollar company. 

He doesn't manage ****! He leases it and adds his name!

[superman73]

23 hours ago, WVK said:

America’s New Mental Health Crisis: Trump Derangement Syndrome

https://washingtonstand.com/commentary/americas-new-mental-health-crisis-trump-derangement-syndrome

It's really sickening and frightening how you guys emulate him.

[+OverSword]

51 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

Is it really?   Do we use it to get goods from one coast to the other, or is it more a world trade  route that we would like the power to cut off if we want?

Yes and yes

 

[WVK]

1 hour ago, superman73 said:

It's really sickening and frightening how you guys emulate him.

What are you talking about?

[Gromdor]

3 hours ago, OverSword said:

The Panama Canal falls under the umbrella of national security so ensuring there is no Chinese military presence around it is government business by default.

I disagree.  Our country would not be under the threat of military harm if Panama has a Chinese military presence and thus there is no national security issue.  The only threat it could possibly pose is an economic one- a weak one at that considering we have ports on both oceans already and don't need to use the canal, but like to just to save a buck.

But I get it, we had four years of peace under Biden and now everyone wants to invade somewhere.  They just haven't decided if it is Mexico (to fight Cartels), Canada (To annex it), Greenland (To annex it), Panama (To annex the canal), Iran (To regime change) or perhaps just revisit Iraq/Syria/Afghanistan.

 

[Essan]

4 hours ago, OverSword said:

The Panama Canal falls under the umbrella of national security so ensuring there is no Chinese military presence around it is government business by default.

The Panama Canal falls under the umbrella of national security so ensuring there is no US military presence around it is government business by default for every other nation on the planet   

[+OverSword]

53 minutes ago, Gromdor said:

I disagree.  Our country would not be under the threat of military harm if Panama has a Chinese military presence and thus there is no national security issue.  The only threat it could possibly pose is an economic one- a weak one at that considering we have ports on both oceans already and don't need to use the canal, but like to just to save a buck.

But I get it, we had four years of peace under Biden and now everyone wants to invade somewhere.  They just haven't decided if it is Mexico (to fight Cartels), Canada (To annex it), Greenland (To annex it), Panama (To annex the canal), Iran (To regime change) or perhaps just revisit Iraq/Syria/Afghanistan.

 

I disagree.  If China has the ability to use it's military to shut down the canal and impede shipping that is a national security threat.  They having extensive holdings on both sides of the canal constitutes a threat.  We should expect them to push those boundaries and we should push back aggressively to avoid any misunderstandings about their place on this side of the globe.  Make no mistake, China is currently an enemy.

Edited January 8 by OverSword

[+OverSword]

40 minutes ago, Essan said:

The Panama Canal falls under the umbrella of national security so ensuring there is no US military presence around it is government business by default for every other nation on the planet   

Winner of todays stupidest post.

[Gromdor]

2 minutes ago, OverSword said:

I disagree.  If China has the ability to use it's military to shut down the canal and impede shipping that is a national security threat.  They having extensive holdings on both sides of the canal constitutes a threat.  We should expect them to push those boundaries and we should push back aggressively to avoid any misunderstandings about their place on this side of the globe.  Make no mistake, China is currently an enemy.

Then we should invade Beijing not Panama....

[+OverSword]

8 minutes ago, Gromdor said:

Then we should invade Beijing not Panama....

So you want people to die?  No.  We should take all strategic measures to prevent that including diplomatically keeping any Chinese military presence out of the wester hemisphere.

Edited January 8 by OverSword

[Gromdor]

5 minutes ago, OverSword said:

So you want people to die?  No.  We should take all strategic measures to prevent that including diplomatically keeping any Chinese military presence out of the wester hemisphere.

That isn't what we are doing.  We are trying to seize control of the Panama canal.  The House even started legislation authorizing Trump negotiating powers to buy it back for a dollar. https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/house-republican-bill-would-pave-way-for-trump-to-acquire-panama-canal-for-us/ar-AA1xc6mF?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Have you applied your own logic in reverse?  If China controlling the Panama canal and ditching the neutrality agreement is a security threat, then what about the US controlling it being a security threat to the rest of the world?  

[+OverSword]

1 minute ago, Gromdor said:

That isn't what we are doing.  We are trying to seize control of the Panama canal.  The House even started legislation authorizing Trump negotiating powers to buy it back for a dollar. https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/house-republican-bill-would-pave-way-for-trump-to-acquire-panama-canal-for-us/ar-AA1xc6mF?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Have you applied your own logic in reverse?  If China controlling the Panama canal and ditching the neutrality agreement is a security threat, then what about the US controlling it being a security threat to the rest of the world?  

Seize?  So take by force without compensation?  I think it says acquire.  I was part of an acquisition.  It was agreed to by both sides and financially compensated.

[Tatetopa]

4 hours ago, Guyver said:

CEO’s make the decisions that guide companies to success.  The skilled ones famously make companies great, and inferior ones get fired by the Board of Directors.  Bad analogy.

So you believe, but an AI would probably make better decisions a lot cheaper.

[Golden Duck]

[+and-then]

19 hours ago, Razman said:

He sure tried last time though , didn't he?

Did he?  He tried to get a lot of "irregularities" with the votes, INVESTIGATED.  The same thing has happened in 2016 and in 2000.  The bottom line is that it's silly to assume he'd try to hang onto power based on his ACTIONS in 2020.  One hell of a lot of Americans saw what happened and saw your media whitewash it and accuse the other party of attempting some kind of coup.  It was so "successful" that he left office precisely on time and gave no orders to anyone to try to stop the transfer of power.  If he had done otherwise, I think our system of government would have seen him imprisoned.  Just because you Trump haters be;lieved the media narrative doesn't mean it was true.  Millions of us will always believe it was stolen and I'd support a special counsel investigating those allegations NOW.  It won't happen, and even if tons of evidence were exposed, the roughy half of you folks who bought into the narrative would never believe or accept the evidence.  I suspect that if the Left resorts to it again, the country will go over the edge.

[Tatetopa]

36 minutes ago, OverSword said:

Make no mistake, China is currently an enemy.

Well then why don't we confront China about it instead of threatening Panama. Trump could just tell his good buddy Xi to mind his p's and q's