Trump muses over renaming Gulf of Mexico ‘Gulf of America’

[+Razman]

5 minutes ago, and-then said:

Did he?  He tried to get a lot of "irregularities" with the votes, INVESTIGATED.  The same thing has happened in 2016 and in 2000.  The bottom line is that it's silly to assume he'd try to hang onto power based on his ACTIONS in 2020.  One hell of a lot of Americans saw what happened and saw your media whitewash it and accuse the other party of attempting some kind of coup.  It was so "successful" that he left office precisely on time and gave no orders to anyone to try to stop the transfer of power.  If he had done otherwise, I think our system of government would have seen him imprisoned.  Just because you Trump haters be;lieved the media narrative doesn't mean it was true.  Millions of us will always believe it was stolen and I'd support a special counsel investigating those allegations NOW.  It won't happen, and even if tons of evidence were exposed, the roughy half of you folks who bought into the narrative would never believe or accept the evidence.  I suspect that if the Left resorts to it again, the country will go over the edge.

Did he? Your kidding right? He tried to get Pence to not certify , he coerced election officials , like the Georgia thing , he tried to run a fake electors scheme, Did he not do these things to try to keep power? It wasn't successful because , the lawmakers would not go along with it because they knew better , and if they did , they would probably be taking the fall for him too , like so many others have already.

Edited January 8 by Razman

[+OverSword]

25 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

Well then why don't we confront China about it instead of threatening Panama. Trump could just tell his good buddy Xi to mind his p's and q's

Did I claim that trump is some kind of diplomat or foreign policy guru? 

[Golden Duck]

35 minutes ago, and-then said:

Did he?  He tried to get a lot of "irregularities" with the votes, INVESTIGATED.  The same thing has happened in 2016 and in 2000.  The bottom line is that it's silly to assume he'd try to hang onto power based on his ACTIONS in 2020.  One hell of a lot of Americans saw what happened and saw your media whitewash it and accuse the other party of attempting some kind of coup.  It was so "successful" that he left office precisely on time and gave no orders to anyone to try to stop the transfer of power.  If he had done otherwise, I think our system of government would have seen him imprisoned.  Just because you Trump haters be;lieved the media narrative doesn't mean it was true.  Millions of us will always believe it was stolen and I'd support a special counsel investigating those allegations NOW.  It won't happen, and even if tons of evidence were exposed, the roughy half of you folks who bought into the narrative would never believe or accept the evidence.  I suspect that if the Left resorts to it again, the country will go over the edge.

You categorically state that you're dogmatic over the stolen election fantasy, but purport "the other" is unreasonable in face of imaginary evidence.

And you speak of compromise.

Just a nobody yapping "it's my way or the highway"

[Guyver]

1 hour ago, Tatetopa said:

So you believe, but an AI would probably make better decisions a lot cheaper.

Well that is depressing.  Thank you.

[Tatetopa]

1 hour ago, Gromdor said:

But I get it, we had four years of peace under Biden and now everyone wants to invade somewhere.  They just haven't decided if it is Mexico (to fight Cartels), Canada (To annex it), Greenland (To annex it), Panama (To annex the canal), Iran (To regime change) or perhaps just revisit Iraq/Syria/Afghanistan.

Partly yes.  It is a distraction to cast the spotlight somewhere else.  Trump can't bring the price of groceries down, tariffs won't make it better and even his financial advisors are telling him so.  They are also telling him deporting 11 million people is near impossible and also a way to financial ruin.  Republicans know there is no way to pay for a tax cut without cutting SS, SNAP, and Medicare   Even Trump may think he will not make the American economy serve the middle class..

Then Elon speaks up and says we are keeping H1B visas because MAGA is too stupid to work at our high tech factories and Trump backs him..  Kind of sad if all the tech bros and billionaires running our country share the opinion that we are too stupid to run our own high tech country.  

 

 

 

[Tatetopa]

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-lay-off-nearly-2700-employees-texas-factory-notice-shows-2024-04-23/

Tesla laid off 2600 Texas workers last year from its Austin giga-factory. The job cuts in Texas represent 12% of Tesla's total workforce of 22,777 in the greater Austin area, where its gigafactory and headquarters are located.

https://dallasexpress.com/business-markets/almost-10-of-teslas-texas-workforce-is-h-1b-labor/  Almost 10% Of Tesla’s Texas Workforce Is H-1B Labor Jan 3, 2025

Elon Musk’s electric car manufacturer, Tesla, brought employment to Texas, but a substantial portion of jobs did not go to Texans.  Almost 10% of Tesla’s Texas-based employees are imported foreign labor. Roughly 2,000 Tesla employees in Texas are H-1B visa holders, according to the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) H-1B Employer Data Hub. Tesla reportedly had 23,000 employees in Texas in 2023, per the Austin-American Statesman.  The H-1 B Salary Database for 2024 reveals that Tesla filed H-1B visa applications with USCIS to fill roles ranging from analysts to engineers to construction managers. However, H-1B workers are likely not the only people who have followed Tesla to Texas. The children and spouses of H-1B workers are eligible for H-4 visas, meaning that entire family units can move with an H-1B employee. Dependent spouses can apply with USCIS for employment in the U.S., allowing them to work in Texas, too, in some cases. H-4 visa children can attend public schools. Likewise, U.S. business immigration attorneys with the law firm Reddy Neuman Brown PC say that H-4 visa holders may also qualify for other social services, such as unemployment benefits.

[Tatetopa]

45 minutes ago, OverSword said:

Did I claim that trump is some kind of diplomat or foreign policy guru? 

No you did not.  I find you innocent of all charges.🙂

[Tatetopa]

8 minutes ago, Guyver said:

Well that is depressing.  Thank you.

Now come on, look on the bright side!  Just think of the efficiency.  All an AI needs is electricity and a cooling fan.  Instead of a $10 million dollar salary, stock holders can pay a $ 12,000 utility bill.  More money for the shareholders is what corporations are supposed to be  all about.

[Guyver]

23 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

Now come on, look on the bright side!  Just think of the efficiency.  All an AI needs is electricity and a cooling fan.  Instead of a $10 million dollar salary, stock holders can pay a $ 12,000 utility bill.  More money for the shareholders is what corporations are supposed to be  all about.

That’s the kind of thinking the machines will use, which is why they will want to kill us all.  😳

[Gromdor]

27 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

Partly yes.  It is a distraction to cast the spotlight somewhere else.  Trump can't bring the price of groceries down, tariffs won't make it better and even his financial advisors are telling him so.  They are also telling him deporting 11 million people is near impossible and also a way to financial ruin.  Republicans know there is no way to pay for a tax cut without cutting SS, SNAP, and Medicare   Even Trump may think he will not make the American economy serve the middle class..

Then Elon speaks up and says we are keeping H1B visas because MAGA is too stupid to work at our high tech factories and Trump backs him..  Kind of sad if all the tech bros and billionaires running our country share the opinion that we are too stupid to run our own high tech country.  

I don't think MAGA is too stupid for the H1B visas.  Trump uses it for housekeepers and cleaning people at places like Mar A Lago.  MAGA isn't too stupid to be housekeepers.  I think it is at least partly because they want to import cheaper labor. https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-foreign-workers-mar-lago-1902982

I do admit that we have a shortage of engineers and other high education specialists, however.

[+Razman]

5 minutes ago, Guyver said:

That’s the kind of thinking the machines will use, which is why they will want to kill us all.  😳

Well , you supportin Trump which supports his Skynet buddy Musk.

[Guyver]

7 minutes ago, Razman said:

Well , you supportin Trump which supports his Skynet buddy Musk.

Ouch.

[Golden Duck]

8 hours ago, Guyver said:

US steel and wood are two examples.  How about cars?  

Why would China import US steel.

I'm not sure the comparative motor vehicle standards are equal.  I wonder about the appetite for China imprting US vehicles.

I does seem that China has a deficit in motor vehicle trade  with the USA.

https://oec.world/profile/bilateral-product/cars/reporter/chn?flowLineplot=importOption#trade-flow

https://oec.world/profile/bilateral-product/cars/reporter/chn?flowLineplot=importOption#trade-flow

[+and-then]

5 hours ago, Gromdor said:

we had four years of peace under Biden and now everyone wants to invade somewhere.

Peace?  His administration bent over so completely that several of our adversaries engaged in fights they'd never have tried with a strong America.  You people on the Left have completely come unhinged...

[+and-then]

4 hours ago, OverSword said:

China is currently an enemy.

It's obvious that our resident Lefties consider Orange Man Bad to be far more dangerous than the CCP or Russia.  They've lost their freakin' minds.

[Tatetopa]

9 hours ago, OverSword said:

China is currently an enemy.

Yes, rivals at least.  Are we ready to go to war?  Sure, 96% chance China will back down.  If they have been getting ready and the time is now, they may not back down.  Then its war.

[jmccr8]

I really don't think China plans to go to war and this is just the next fear mongering to distract everyone from real day to day issues, yes it is always a possibility but really both countries are economically dependent on each other and use the same fear mongering tactics to play their own citizens.

Edited January 9 by jmccr8

[Gromdor]

11 hours ago, and-then said:

Peace?  His administration bent over so completely that several of our adversaries engaged in fights they'd never have tried with a strong America.  You people on the Left have completely come unhinged...

Couple of points:

1) You beat my wife, then perhaps I am weak and it's a problem.  You beat your wife, I am neither weak nor is it my problem.

2) What fights are you talking about?  Ukraine which was happening even during Trump's time?  Hamas which was happening even Trump's time (and before)?  The Houthis that was even happening during Trump's time?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_war_in_Donbas_(2019)

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/07/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-conflict-timeline.html

https://arabcenterdc.org/resource/a-timeline-of-the-yemen-crisis-from-the-1990s-to-the-present/

[Guyver]

12 hours ago, and-then said:

Peace?  His administration bent over so completely that several of our adversaries engaged in fights they'd never have tried with a strong America.  You people on the Left have completely come unhinged...

Not to mention that one of his first acts in office was one of the worst moves made by any Commander in Chief of the military.  He left our gear in the hands of the enemy when he brought troops home from Afghanistan. Every person who has ever served in the military knows that is like the golden rule of combat that a soldier does not do. 

[Zebra3]

The communists banned offshore drilling in the Gulf of Mexico before they leave office. Where didn't they ban it? The Gulf of America. We can start drilling immediately.

[Gromdor]

1 hour ago, Guyver said:

Not to mention that one of his first acts in office was one of the worst moves made by any Commander in Chief of the military.  He left our gear in the hands of the enemy when he brought troops home from Afghanistan. Every person who has ever served in the military knows that is like the golden rule of combat that a soldier does not do. 

Well crap, I was in the military and noone told me that.  (Of course I was Airforce and they said that if the enemy got to the base, we lost the war anyways so who cares.) 

I remember shutting down some bases for Clinton's downsizing and looking at the stuff we just left behind.  But those bases were in England.

So quick question- was any of that gear in Afghanistan usable?  Couldn't help but notice that other than the 13 that died by the suicide bomber, no American soldiers died under Biden so they must not have used any of it against us in the last 4 years.

[Guyver]

Just now, Gromdor said:

Well crap, I was in the military and noone told me that.  (Of course I was Airforce and they said that if the enemy got to the base, we lost the war anyways so who cares.) 

I remember shutting down some bases for Clinton's downsizing and looking at the stuff we just left behind.  But those bases were in England.

So quick question- was any of that gear in Afghanistan usable?  Couldn't help but notice that other than the 13 that died by the suicide bomber, no American soldiers died under Biden so they must not have used any of it against us in the last 4 years.

Yes, the gear was usable, and they paraded down the streets with some of it.

[Gromdor]

32 minutes ago, Zebra3 said:

The communists banned offshore drilling in the Gulf of Mexico before they leave office. Where didn't they ban it? The Gulf of America. We can start drilling immediately.

Are you planning to drill yourself?  The oil companies I worked for have no plans to start new drilling- they want to keep supply at current levels or lower to increase profits.  They would like to get leasing rights to new oil wells for the future and to keep their competitors from getting them, however.

[Guyver]

1 minute ago, Gromdor said:

Well crap, I was in the military and noone told me that.  (Of course I was Airforce and they said that if the enemy got to the base, we lost the war anyways so who cares.) 

I remember shutting down some bases for Clinton's downsizing and looking at the stuff we just left behind.  But those bases were in England.

So quick question- was any of that gear in Afghanistan usable?  Couldn't help but notice that other than the 13 that died by the suicide bomber, no American soldiers died under Biden so they must not have used any of it against us in the last 4 years.

I would have thought that even in AF basic, though admittedly not super difficult…you still would have had some combat training and been advised not to leave gear where the enemy could use it.

[Gromdor]

Just now, Guyver said:

Yes, the gear was usable, and they paraded down the streets with some of it.

That was dumb of them.  To hear MAGA talk, they should have used it to kill Americans.  They totally missed their window.