pellinore Posted January 12 #1 Share Posted January 12 (edited) In an escalation of discontent among the highest-profile far-right followers of Donald Trump, his former adviser Steve Bannon has called Trump’s newest favorite, Elon Musk, “racist” and a “truly evil guy”, pledging to “take this guy down” and kick him out of the Maga movement. In an interview with the Corriere della Sera newspaper in Italy, excerpts of which were published this weekend by Breitbart, Bannon criticised Musk’s embrace of some forms of immigration and vowed to ensure that Musk does not have top-level access to the White House. “He is a truly evil guy, a very bad guy. I made it my personal thing to take this guy down,” Bannon said. “Before, because he put money in, I was prepared to tolerate it – I’m not prepared to tolerate it any more.” He added: “I will have Elon Musk run out of here by inauguration day”, which falls on 20 January. “He will not have full access to the White House. He will be like any other person.” Steve Bannon condemns Elon Musk as ‘racist’ and ‘truly evil’ | Steve Bannon | The Guardian Edited January 12 by pellinore 4 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted January 13 #2 Share Posted January 13 Steve, if you want your man back ... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resume Posted January 13 #3 Share Posted January 13 Well, he would know, given his experience. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenemet Posted January 13 #4 Share Posted January 13 I don't think he can do it. He doesn't have enough charm to overwhelm $416 billion. Last time, the coinage of the realm was influence, so Steve (with his access) had a lot of power. Elon could buy things in Steve's sphere of influence and basically overwhelm him. I think that Steve can only win if he can get Zuckerberg and Bezos as allies (which I don't think he can do) and distract Musk into getting into competition with them. That takes Musk's attention off being a shadow president and frees things up so that Steve can try for his own influence. However... a wild card in there is Trump's son Baron. Trump relies on family. Don Junior and Eric don't have the influence on their dad that Ivanka did, but Baron might. Dunno. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Abramelin Posted January 13 Popular Post #5 Share Posted January 13 Money rules this planet. Guys like Musk can get away with anything. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted January 13 #6 Share Posted January 13 4 hours ago, Kenemet said: I don't think he can do it. He doesn't have enough charm to overwhelm $416 billion. Last time, the coinage of the realm was influence, so Steve (with his access) had a lot of power. Elon could buy things in Steve's sphere of influence and basically overwhelm him. I think that Steve can only win if he can get Zuckerberg and Bezos as allies (which I don't think he can do) and distract Musk into getting into competition with them. That takes Musk's attention off being a shadow president and frees things up so that Steve can try for his own influence. However... a wild card in there is Trump's son Baron. Trump relies on family. Don Junior and Eric don't have the influence on their dad that Ivanka did, but Baron might. Dunno. I don't think Steve will find allies in Zuckerberg or Bezos. I know it sounds just so CT, but I think a lot of Trump cabinet and advisor types are in it together. The tech-bros and billionaire elites have found a business man to deal with in Donald Trump. Everything is for sale. Structure and favorable regulations can be incredibly fertile ground for fortune growth. The opportunities for privatizing and further tax cuts must make them giddy. I think a number of like minded people have found themselves in a position to tap the American economy pretty close to the source if they can pull it off. Its probably going to cost us. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katniss Posted January 13 #7 Share Posted January 13 (edited) Wow! These strong disagreements between MAGA are getting stronger. Isn't that right Mr. @Link of Hyrule? Edited January 13 by Katniss 3 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted January 13 Author #8 Share Posted January 13 (edited) He's planning to get him down before he can influence govt. President-elect Trump’s former adviser Steve Bannon has vowed to “take down” tech billionaire Elon Musk, calling him “truly evil.” In an interview with Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera, as highlighted by Mediaite, Bannon sharply criticized Musk, who was tapped by Trump to co-lead the “Department of Government Efficiency.” “I will have Elon Musk run out of here by Inauguration Day,” Bannon said. “He is a truly evil guy, a very bad guy. I made it my personal thing to take this guy down.” Steve Bannon says he will ‘take down’ the ‘truly evil’ Elon Musk Edited January 13 by pellinore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted January 13 Author #9 Share Posted January 13 7 hours ago, Abramelin said: Money rules this planet. Guys like Musk can get away with anything. Maybe not. All he has is wealth, not intelligence or good judgement. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Link of Hyrule Posted January 13 #10 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Katniss said: Wow! These strong disagreements between MAGA are getting stronger. Isn't that right Mr. @Link of Hyrule? Bannon was one of the names frequently cited in the other discussion we had (you even mention him yourself). Why is it weird to you that extremists like Bannon don't agree with Trump? You know, the guy who lied about school massacres. Trump got 77 million votes, the vast majority of them don't agree with Bannon either. But I don't know why you think it's "getting stronger" because of this. Does Steve Bannon represent a different demographic than the one he represented last time his name was brought up? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz_Light_Year Posted January 13 #11 Share Posted January 13 What's the matter? Bannon not feeling the love of being Trump's BFF? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cho Jinn Posted January 13 #12 Share Posted January 13 Steve needs to relax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchopwn Posted January 13 #13 Share Posted January 13 2 hours ago, Link of Hyrule said: Bannon was one of the names frequently cited in the other discussion we had (you even mention him yourself). Why is it weird to you that extremists like Bannon don't agree with Trump? You know, the guy who lied about school massacres. Trump got 77 million votes, the vast majority of them don't agree with Bannon either. But I don't know why you think it's "getting stronger" because of this. Does Steve Bannon represent a different demographic than the one he represented last time his name was brought up? So you're a Musk supporter then? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted January 13 #14 Share Posted January 13 Watch all the people that have always said Steve Bannon is an evil racist far right Nazi now act like he's in line to be canonized 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver Posted January 13 #15 Share Posted January 13 Maybe Steve could stop being so judgy all the time? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenemet Posted January 13 #16 Share Posted January 13 10 hours ago, Tatetopa said: I don't think Steve will find allies in Zuckerberg or Bezos. I know it sounds just so CT, but I think a lot of Trump cabinet and advisor types are in it together. The tech-bros and billionaire elites have found a business man to deal with in Donald Trump. Everything is for sale. Structure and favorable regulations can be incredibly fertile ground for fortune growth. The opportunities for privatizing and further tax cuts must make them giddy. I think a number of like minded people have found themselves in a position to tap the American economy pretty close to the source if they can pull it off. Its probably going to cost us. It will cost us. I don't think they're necessarily "in it together" but their goals (enriching themselves, fame) are similar. This will mean NOT working with anyone who isn't MAGA (so we'll have a stalled government) and will mean that money will speak louder than any other force in this administration. Some of the policies suggested by Musk just *happen* to make things better for Tesla and Space X (holy coincidence, Batman! Who could have imagined that?) Running a government like a business is a VERY bad idea. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenemet Posted January 13 #17 Share Posted January 13 3 hours ago, Link of Hyrule said: Bannon was one of the names frequently cited in the other discussion we had (you even mention him yourself). Why is it weird to you that extremists like Bannon don't agree with Trump? You know, the guy who lied about school massacres. I think you're confusing Steve Bannon with Alex Jones. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted January 13 #18 Share Posted January 13 7 minutes ago, Kenemet said: I think you're confusing Steve Bannon with Alex Jones. Alex is the well dressed one. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted January 13 #19 Share Posted January 13 10 minutes ago, Kenemet said: It will cost us. I don't think they're necessarily "in it together" but their goals (enriching themselves, fame) are similar. This will mean NOT working with anyone who isn't MAGA (so we'll have a stalled government) and will mean that money will speak louder than any other force in this administration. Some of the policies suggested by Musk just *happen* to make things better for Tesla and Space X (holy coincidence, Batman! Who could have imagined that?) Running a government like a business is a VERY bad idea. Yes, I don't think of them as a secret cabal, just folks with similar interests and tastes, like a book club. Like hornets to honey, they have been drawn to the For Sale sign Trump has put in the White House window. Citizens who want to run the government like a business do not realize they and all their rights and benefits are the waste that the managers want to cut. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robotic Jew Posted January 13 #20 Share Posted January 13 Pot and kettle situation... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katniss Posted January 13 #21 Share Posted January 13 8 hours ago, Link of Hyrule said: Bannon was one of the names frequently cited in the other discussion we had (you even mention him yourself). Why is it weird to you that extremists like Bannon don't agree with Trump? You know, the guy who lied about school massacres. Trump got 77 million votes, the vast majority of them don't agree with Bannon either. But I don't know why you think it's "getting stronger" because of this. Does Steve Bannon represent a different demographic than the one he represented last time his name was brought up? @Kenemet is right, that is Alex Jones you are talking about. And it's not weird to me Bannon is going after Musk, I'm loving it! If you haven't figure this out by now, let me enlighten you, Bannon is one of the leaders in Trump's true hardcore base MAGA and has many followers. Bannon went to jail for Trump to keep his mouth shut from congress. And let me enlighten you again, all this is a sign of changing, changing into the bottom versus the top now and Musk is getting pushed out of Trump's MAGA. Watch and learn. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katniss Posted January 13 #22 Share Posted January 13 5 hours ago, Guyver said: Maybe Steve could stop being so judgy all the time? I disagree. Steve has MAGA rights to call out Musk when he wants to. How are we going to fix the immigration problem when Musk wants to bring in more immigrants to take our jobs. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted January 13 #23 Share Posted January 13 30 minutes ago, Katniss said: I disagree. Steve has MAGA rights to call out Musk when he wants to. How are we going to fix the immigration problem when Musk wants to bring in more immigrants to take our jobs. I'm guessing Bannon's bark is worse than his bite. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katniss Posted January 13 #24 Share Posted January 13 3 minutes ago, Golden Duck said: I'm guessing Bannon's bark is worse than his bite. When you delve into the MAGA-verse you would not believe what is going on inside. But apparently, some of our fellow Trump supporting members don't and they are getting on the wrong side of this 'strong disagreement'. Anyway, look at all of the support for Bannon in the comments section of Megan Kelly's show on YT. The MAGA minions support what he said about Musk and immigration a week ago. It's delicious. Steve Bannon vs. Elon Musk Over Immigration as Future of MAGA is Debated, with Glenn Greenwald 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Link of Hyrule Posted January 13 #25 Share Posted January 13 7 hours ago, Alchopwn said: So you're a Musk supporter then? Suffice it to say I'm not a Bannon supporter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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