jmccr8 Posted January 17 #76 Share Posted January 17 14 hours ago, AZDZ said: I live nowhere near wind farms but it is never completely quiet. I use a white noise machine to drown it out. Hi AZDZ I didn't have to buy a machine my last wife yelled so much my eardrums adapted and got thicker. Mind you that was 40 years ago and when some mumbler says I should get a hearing aide I say why I spend most of my time with myself and don't have a problem hearing me. Lol 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted January 17 #77 Share Posted January 17 3 hours ago, Tatetopa said: If only there was a way to store that wind generated electricity so you could use it whenever you needed. Maybe we should put Elon Musk to work on that. Hi Ttae Yes a good idea but would have to find 2 different ways of harnessing the 4 cheek wind power system effectively 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted January 17 #78 Share Posted January 17 2 hours ago, DarkHunter said: So you have no real response cause you know once the cost of the insane battery storage you are trying to suggest is factored in that wind turbines will be the least cost effective electricity generation method by a massive margin along with the massive mining operations and battery production required far destroying any CO2 benefit that wind turbines bring. hi Dark and yet countries want Ecars and changing those batteries can run $13-20 k to replace and not hearing much about that cost as a deterrent. Consumers pay the price believing they are doing the right thing because of what they are told. Vanity is a funny thing as people will spend ridiculous money just to look good. I drive a gas vehicle and keep it properly maintained and will not buy a new car until they don't have wheels as by then if you can fly to another planet without having to stop a a MUSK station I could do at least a 100,000 miles here on earth without a top up.🤣 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHunter Posted January 17 #79 Share Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, jmccr8 said: hi Dark and yet countries want Ecars and changing those batteries can run $13-20 k to replace and not hearing much about that cost as a deterrent. Consumers pay the price believing they are doing the right thing because of what they are told. Vanity is a funny thing as people will spend ridiculous money just to look good. I drive a gas vehicle and keep it properly maintained and will not buy a new car until they don't have wheels as by then if you can fly to another planet without having to stop a a MUSK station I could do at least a 100,000 miles here on earth without a top up.🤣 In a general sense a large percentage of people are easily influenced especially when they don't understand everything that is involved but are told that something is good and if they support said something then they are also good, doesn't matter if the something is actually good or not. It plays into two large human vices; inherent vanity, people generally want to be good, and inherent laziness, don't have to put effort into learning/improving and can still be considered good. Ultimately the answer to energy is either nuclear and/or geothermal but instead of just investing in the solution so much resources are put into highly inefficient short term solutions due only to greed and ignorance. Geothermal is particularly interesting cause if we can figure out how to drill deep enough to make geothermal viable everywhere besides from access to practically limitless energy, the earth's core radiates out so much heat even if we tap it and run all energy needs off of it as a species there is near zero chance we could deplete the energy from the core enough to have a significant impact on the magnetic field before the sun would turn into a red giant and swallow the planet, we could also potentially gain access to immense new sources of minerals and various other resources. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted January 17 #80 Share Posted January 17 55 minutes ago, DarkHunter said: Good to see you still jump into the defense of others. The facts are he pretends to know what he is talking about but doesn't know or understand the difference between power and energy, doesn't know how to use an online calculator correctly, and doesn't know the difference between HAWT and VAWT. Denigrating other people's abilities does not add anything to your own. The obvious intelligence of your response should be sufficient. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHunter Posted January 17 #81 Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, Tatetopa said: Denigrating other people's abilities does not add anything to your own. The obvious intelligence of your response should be sufficient. When people keep doubling down on being wrong and refuse to admit they are wrong but keep pretending they know what they are talking about and make up face saving excuses and start playing stupid word games to avoid having to face being wrong they should be called out on their ignorance and be made to actually face it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted January 17 #82 Share Posted January 17 3 hours ago, DarkHunter said: When people keep doubling down on being wrong and refuse to admit they are wrong but keep pretending they know what they are talking about and make up face saving excuses and start playing stupid word games to avoid having to face being wrong they should be called out on their ignorance and be made to actually face it. I've found that if you just sit back and let people speak, they tend to demonstrate that themselves. Though, I must admit this is the first time I've seen someone play word games with a letter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted January 17 #83 Share Posted January 17 7 hours ago, Tatetopa said: If only there was a way to store that wind generated electricity so you could use it whenever you needed. Maybe we should put Elon Musk to work on that. There are ways currently in use: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_energy_storage_power_plants Molten salt, compressed air, pumping water, etc. We convert electricity into other forms of storable energy like heat (or even potential energy by pumping water up high for hydroelectric) and then convert it back when needed. Currently my state generally doesn't store the excess wind power, but exports it since 2008 or so. Iowa consumes around 79.22% of the electricity that is produced by their generation plants. This means they must export or store the excess megawatt hours. Residents of Iowa pay around 21.21% less than the $142.31 US average monthly residential electricity bill.- from google. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted January 17 #84 Share Posted January 17 On 1/15/2025 at 7:21 PM, WVK said: Abstract Wind turbines generate low-frequency noise (LFN, 20–200 Hz), which poses health risks to nearby residents. This study aimed to assess heart rate variability (HRV) responses to LFN exposure and to evaluate the LFN exposure (dB, LAeq) inside households located near wind turbines. Thirty subjects living within a 500 m radius of wind turbines were recruited. The field campaigns for LFN (LAeq) and HRV monitoring were carried out in July and December 2018. A generalized additive mixed model was employed to evaluate the relationship between HRV changes and LFN. The results suggested that the standard deviations of all the normal to normal R–R intervals were reduced significantly, by 3.39%, with a 95% CI = (0.15%, 6.52%) per 7.86 dB (LAeq) of LFN in the exposure range of 38.2–57.1 dB (LAeq). The indoor LFN exposure (LAeq) ranged between 30.7 and 43.4 dB (LAeq) at a distance of 124–330 m from wind turbines. Moreover, households built with concrete and equipped with airtight windows showed the highest LFN difference of 13.7 dB between indoors and outdoors. In view of the adverse health impacts of LFN exposure, there should be regulations on the requisite distances of wind turbines from residential communities for health protection. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-97107-8 Yeah right, it is the wind turbine noise, has nothing to do with the constant emf bombardment we are all receiving 24/7. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted January 17 #85 Share Posted January 17 On 1/15/2025 at 10:03 PM, psyche101 said: Are you claiming LFN has different properties regarding wind turbines than it would for machinery? Like say.....a household gas heater. 🤣 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHunter Posted January 17 #86 Share Posted January 17 (edited) 6 hours ago, Gromdor said: I've found that if you just sit back and let people speak, they tend to demonstrate that themselves. Though, I must admit this is the first time I've seen someone play word games with a letter. That letter is important since KH and KWh are not the same thing. The KW has SI base units of kg*m^2/s^3 while KWh has SI base units of kg*m^2/s^2. No matter how you try to spin it there is a difference between the two and you either don't know or also can't understand the difference. To put it another way your might be able to understand, your argument that KW and KWh is equivalent to saying that acceleration (m/s^2) is the same as velocity (m/s) cause the only difference is multiplying acceleration by a unit of time and since time was stated it's redundant to do it. You just very clearly do not know what you are talking about despite desperately wanting to pretend that you do and are way to prideful to admit it. Edited January 17 by DarkHunter 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted January 17 #87 Share Posted January 17 3 minutes ago, DarkHunter said: That letter is important since KH and KWh are not the same thing. I agree KH and KWh are not the same thing. Just because you used KH here doesn't mean you are desperate/ignorant/prideful however... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted January 17 #88 Share Posted January 17 (edited) I do have to admit, I was being a bit evil with you and letting you lead yourself on, but I should probably stop. Take a look at this: Edited January 17 by Gromdor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHunter Posted January 17 #89 Share Posted January 17 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Gromdor said: I agree KH and KWh are not the same thing. Just because you used KH here doesn't mean you are desperate/ignorant/prideful however... Going after a minor spelling mistake now, you really are desperate to save face now. My point still stands that you dont know the difference between KW and KWh and your argument on why the h doesn't matter shows how little you actually understand Also the actual significant part was the next paragraph which you conveniently ignore cause it shows how ignorant you really are Edited January 17 by DarkHunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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