superman73 Posted January 21 #176 Share Posted January 21 6 minutes ago, Zebra3 said: No, he didn't. Yes..He did! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superman73 Posted January 21 #177 Share Posted January 21 8 minutes ago, Zebra3 said: No, This was again a sideshow! Trump hasn't changed one bit.Welcome to project 2025 idiots.Plastic people vying for status and power! You guys just threw society back 300 years! Effing disgusting hypocritical self apologists. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebra3 Posted January 21 #178 Share Posted January 21 About as much as Kamala did. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted January 21 #179 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Doc Socks Junior said: Ah, that explains it. Grok seems to have hallucinated, and you simply passed on the information without any verification. Typical. Checking through 3 of those 4 books, those quotes are nowhere to be found. I also it should also be emphasized that you additionally exaggerated the length of time, well above the length which your pet chatbot reported. Chatbot said a few days at most, from what you quoted, you lied and said weeks. Not satisfied with being a chatbot parrot, you need to sprinkle additional lies on top of it. Add to that, I asked the hallucinating chatbot to verify this information, and it now says there's no evidence of such an illness. This is the garbage that makes chatbot use so stupid, ignorant, and damaging to useful interchange of information. Good to know that you're basically just providing chatbot fakery to everyone without acknowledging it. And then making up your own whoppers on top of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Socks Junior Posted January 21 #180 Share Posted January 21 13 minutes ago, acidhead said: And you must learn to stop being a chatbot parrot, while adding your own lies on top of its hallucinations. Let's both work on our respective issues, shall we? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted January 21 #181 Share Posted January 21 38 minutes ago, Doc Socks Junior said: And you must learn to stop being a chatbot parrot, while adding your own lies on top of its hallucinations. Let's both work on our respective issues, shall we? Just curious... Where did you find those books? Are they available online to read for free? Can you send me a link to where you were able to read those books? Also, you're quick to jump to call me a liar when all I did was answer your request for where I got the information from. I told you where I got the information from and this somehow makes me a liar? Really? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebra3 Posted January 21 #182 Share Posted January 21 Busted liberal media’s hysterical claims that Elon Musk is a Nazi shows how ridiculous they’ve become Idiots. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted January 21 #183 Share Posted January 21 7 minutes ago, Zebra3 said: Busted liberal media’s hysterical claims that Elon Musk is a Nazi shows how ridiculous they’ve become Idiots. Hi Zebra And you seem to be the one posting about it non-stop and not anyone else seems to be making a big deal of it here in the forum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebra3 Posted January 21 #184 Share Posted January 21 AOC torn to shreds for ‘jewsplaining’ to Anti-Defamation League in dispute over Elon Musk’s inauguration salute 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Socks Junior Posted January 21 #185 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, acidhead said: Just curious... Where did you find those books? Are they available online to read for free? Can you send me a link to where you were able to read those books? Online. Yes. www.books.google.com. There are some gaps, and non previewed pages, but enough to get the gist. As one example, "John F. Kennedy: A Biography" has him in the oval office signing things and bursting with enthusiasm the next day. Not bedridden. JFK was certainly an ill man at many points. But he didn't make that an excuse for ducking the cold. You might have wanted to check on them before parroting your chatbot, but maybe that's beyond you at the present time. It shouldn't be. 1 hour ago, acidhead said: Also, you're quick to jump to call me a liar when all I did was answer your request for where I got the information from. I told you where I got the information from and this somehow makes me a liar? Really? No, you being a liar isn't because you finally revealed the source of your information. The lie is when you took the inaccurate, faked information, didn't check on it, and then exaggerated it even more, from days to weeks, and posted it. It immediately fooled another chatbot enjoyer, and was used as fuel for a different argument. You need to check on your hallucinating chatbot, and gain a little agency - I believe you can be more than a lying chatbot parrot. You can do it! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Link of Hyrule Posted January 21 #186 Share Posted January 21 (edited) 3 hours ago, Doc Socks Junior said: It immediately fooled another chatbot enjoyer, and was used as fuel for a different argument. I assume you're referring to me, when in post #17 I addressed this using the phrase "IF TRUE, it puts context". If true, as in leaving the opening to be wrong. And guess what - if the story isn't true, then it's still a reasonable decision to move indoors when Trump is 78 and the weather was as cold as it was. When Trump starts rearranging his schedule so that he only holds meetings when he's cognitively able to turn up (like a certain former POTUS) then come back to me and we can argue then whether this is an issue then. Until then, I really don't care. Edited January 21 by Link of Hyrule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Socks Junior Posted January 22 #187 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Link of Hyrule said: I assume you're referring to me, when in post #17 I addressed this using the phrase "IF TRUE, it puts context". If true, as in leaving the opening to be wrong. Okay, so based on the if/then, you now would say: It doesn't put context to the boast about JFK doing his inauguration outdoors. The consequences for said 45 year old (weeks being sick) do not need to be factored in. It is then not absolutely hilarious that someone would try to suggest a 78 year old man should hold a ceremony outside just because a 45 year old did it in similar circumstances, since the latter did not get very very sick as a result. Okie doke. I'm glad you can follow the consequences of your own logic. Quote How is that not freaking hilarious Presumably when it's a fake story hallucinated by a chatbot. But, you know, mileage varies. 1 hour ago, Link of Hyrule said: And guess what - if the story isn't true, then it's still a reasonable decision to move indoors when Trump is 78 and the weather was as cold as it was. Yeah, it is a reasonable decision to adjust things based on the advanced age and health limitations of the current president. It just, you know, sort of emphasizes the advanced age and health limitations of the current president. It's fine that Trump is old and needs to be protected. I don't want anything happening to our nation's commander in chief either. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Link of Hyrule Posted January 22 #188 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Doc Socks Junior said: Okay, so based on the if/then, you now would say: It doesn't put context to the boast about JFK doing his inauguration outdoors. The consequences for said 45 year old (weeks being sick) do not need to be factored in. It is then not absolutely hilarious that someone would try to suggest a 78 year old man should hold a ceremony outside just because a 45 year old did it in similar circumstances, since the latter did not get very very sick as a result. Okie doke. I'm glad you can follow the consequences of your own logic. Presumably when it's a fake story hallucinated by a chatbot. But, you know, mileage varies. Yeah, it is a reasonable decision to adjust things based on the advanced age and health limitations of the current president. It just, you know, sort of emphasizes the advanced age and health limitations of the current president. It's fine that Trump is old and needs to be protected. I don't want anything happening to our nation's commander in chief either. If the story is true, it's hilarious. If it's not true then holding the ceremony indoors is still a very good idea for a 78 year old. You can be very fit and healthy as a 78 year old and still get done over by a common cold (heck, the over 55's were all given covid vaccines before everyone else because of the way that viruses like that disproportionately affect older people, so it's not like there's anything controversial in anything I've said). Either way, the takeaway from the story is that Trump is doing the right thing by looking after his health and you guys are just losing your minds trying to twist that into an attack against Trump, and it's freaking hilarious to watch Edited January 22 by Link of Hyrule 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Socks Junior Posted January 22 #189 Share Posted January 22 6 minutes ago, Link of Hyrule said: If the story is true, it's hilarious. Unable to determine the veracity of the story for yourself? Now that's hilarious. 6 minutes ago, Link of Hyrule said: If it's not true then holding the ceremony indoors is still a very good idea for a 78 year old. You can be very fit and healthy as a 78 year old and still get done over by a common cold (heck, the over 55's were all given covid vaccines before everyone else because of the way that viruses like that disproportionately affect older people, so it's not like there's anything controversial in anything I've said). Either way, the takeaway from the story is that Trump is doing the right thing by looking after his health and you guys are just losing your minds trying to twist that into an attack against Trump, and it's freaking hilarious to watch Didn't seem like anyone was losing their minds. @Tatetopa had the absolute temerity to make a joke about JFK being tougher than Trump. Then we had a chatbot parrot lie to everyone, you decided the joke was an insult to Trump's honor, and we were off to the races. The joke about sickly JFK being tougher than Trump was pretty hilarious though, you're right. JFK was probably hopped up on amphetamines, though, which is a sort of unfair advantage. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted January 22 #190 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Link of Hyrule said: Either way, the takeaway from the story is that Trump is doing the right thing by looking after his health and you guys are just losing your minds trying to twist that into an attack against Trump, and it's freaking hilarious to watch Hold up partner. We are not alone in losing our minds. Steve Bannon claimed it was a Democrat plot to neutralize Trump. He is the voice of MAGA is he not? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Link of Hyrule Posted January 22 #191 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, Doc Socks Junior said: Unable to determine the veracity of the story for yourself? Now that's hilarious. Not unable, just unwilling, as the veracity of the story is immaterial to the decision to hold the ceremony indoors. 1 hour ago, Doc Socks Junior said: Didn't seem like anyone was losing their minds. @Tatetopa had the absolute temerity to make a joke about JFK being tougher than Trump. Then we had a chatbot parrot lie to everyone, you decided the joke was an insult to Trump's honor, and we were off to the races. The joke about sickly JFK being tougher than Trump was pretty hilarious though, you're right. JFK was probably hopped up on amphetamines, though, which is a sort of unfair advantage. The "joke" from Tate was to claim that JFK was tough because he did something stupid then claim Trump isn't tough because he isn't stupid! Man, I should have framed it like that at the start, would have saved heaps of time Edited January 22 by Link of Hyrule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Socks Junior Posted January 22 #192 Share Posted January 22 6 minutes ago, Link of Hyrule said: Not unable, just unwilling, as the veracity of the story is immaterial to the decision to hold the ceremony indoors. And yet, your original post stated a number of material conclusions if the story was true. Was your post entirely immaterial? But, unwilling to check on things you use to support your positions? Yeah, that's certainly true. 6 minutes ago, Link of Hyrule said: The "joke" from Tate was to claim that JFK was tough because he did something stupid then claim Trump isn't tough because he isn't stupid! Man, I should have framed it like that at the start, would have saved heaps of time Yes, you may not have had to do quite as much freaking out about the aspersion on Don the Felon if you were able to self-regulate and think of a better context. Perhaps a good approach for the future! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted January 22 #193 Share Posted January 22 43 minutes ago, Link of Hyrule said: The "joke" from Tate was to claim that JFK was tough because he did something stupid then claim Trump isn't tough because he isn't stupid! Man, I should have framed it like that at the start, would have saved heaps of time Kennedy mad a memorable speech on that day, I don't think it was dumb. Trump supporters came from across the country dressed for the weather. They might as well have stayed home and saved the trip. Were they dumb? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Link of Hyrule Posted January 22 #194 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Doc Socks Junior said: And yet, your original post stated a number of material conclusions if the story was true. Was your post entirely immaterial? But, unwilling to check on things you use to support your positions? Yeah, that's certainly true. IF TRUE, then it's hilarious to put context to the story. IF UNTRUE, the overall point is less hilarious but nevertheless common sense to move indoors due to weather. Anything else is irrelevant! 1 hour ago, Doc Socks Junior said: Yes, you may not have had to do quite as much freaking out about the aspersion on Don the Felon if you were able to self-regulate and think of a better context. Perhaps a good approach for the future! Perhaps you might understand me better if you realise I wasn't freaking out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent0range Posted January 22 #195 Share Posted January 22 4 hours ago, Link of Hyrule said: Trump is doing the right thing by looking after his health I mean, I have no issue with it being conducted indoors. But aren't you a teacher? Looking out for his health? The cold weather doesn't make you sick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Socks Junior Posted January 22 #196 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 2 hours ago, Link of Hyrule said: IF TRUE, then it's hilarious to put context to the story. Still hanging onto hope that the chatbot is not lying to you? I guess you'd have to. 2 hours ago, Link of Hyrule said: IF UNTRUE, the overall point is less hilarious but nevertheless common sense to move indoors due to weather. Yes, we agree that if one has health issues that preclude them from being out of doors in the cold, they can take actions to protect their health. But if Trump were to take some amphetamines, lose the coat, and give an actually good speech, it would have been a much better inauguration. Might have even been as iconic as the JFK one. But, it's fair for him to watch out for his health. No doubt about that. 2 hours ago, Link of Hyrule said: Anything else is irrelevant! Ones grasp on reality and ability to separate truth from fiction is always relevant. 2 hours ago, Link of Hyrule said: Perhaps you might understand me better if you realise I wasn't freaking out. Ah, I must have misunderstood the capitalized words, emoticons, and multiple repetitions of the word "hilarious", and you self-describing the situation with the word "freaking". Perhaps I could inform you that it's not always about how you feel, but about how you objectively come across to others. As it is, your inaccurate contention that "you guys are just losing your minds" is lent particular note by your above statement. I advise a little self reflection. Edited January 22 by Doc Socks Junior 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted January 22 #197 Share Posted January 22 Donald J. Trump comforts JFK (January 21, 1961, Colorized) *Note: this is a real AI photo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Link of Hyrule Posted January 22 #198 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Agent0range said: I mean, I have no issue with it being conducted indoors. But aren't you a teacher? Looking out for his health? The cold weather doesn't make you sick. The cold wether can impact a person's immune system, thus making them susceptible to a number of illnesses, and older people are particularly vulnerable. This was addressed earlier in the thread by others, see post #23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Link of Hyrule Posted January 22 #199 Share Posted January 22 55 minutes ago, Doc Socks Junior said: Still hanging onto hope that the chatbot is not lying to you? That is incorrect, read my post again, you should be able to work it out 55 minutes ago, Doc Socks Junior said: I guess you'd have to. Yes, we agree that if one has health issues that preclude them from being out of doors in the cold, they can take actions to protect their health. But if Trump were to take some amphetamines, lose the coat, and give an actually good speech, it would have been a much better inauguration. Might have even been as iconic as the JFK one. But, it's fair for him to watch out for his health. No doubt about that. Ones grasp on reality and ability to separate truth from fiction is always relevant. Ah, I must have misunderstood the capitalized words, emoticons, and multiple repetitions of the word "hilarious", and you self-describing the situation with the word "freaking". Perhaps I could inform you that it's not always about how you feel, but about how you objectively come across to others. As it is, your inaccurate contention that "you guys are just losing your minds" is lent particular note by your above statement. I advise a little self reflection. I'm glad we agree that Trump is right to look out for himself. To the rest, let's say I disagree with that. What you are describing as "freaking out", I call "amusement" at best. Finding something funny (even "freaking hilarious" if you choose that adjective to describe it, as I did) isn't "freaking out", not by a long shot. Neither is capitalising for effect what I would call "freaking out", and if emoticons demonstrate freaking out then half the forum is beyond help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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