pellinore Posted January 18 #1 Share Posted January 18 (edited) Nigel Farage was proclaimed as “the next prime minister of Great Britain” at a huge party overlooking the White House to celebrate the upcoming inauguration of his friend and ally Donald Trump. The Stars and Stripes Union Jack reception on the rooftop of the Hay Adams hotel on Friday night became a gathering of the glitterate of the US and UK political right, with Maga Republicans rubbing shoulders with Reform UK, senior Conservatives, and Brexiteers. Organised by the so-called “bad boys of Brexit” Andy Wigmore and Arron Banks, who had initially been blocked from entering the US, along with leading Washington fixer Gerry Gunster, the party became a celebration of Farage (the guest honour) and his eight years of friendship with Trump. The victory of the incoming president against what many in the room saw as staggering odds was taken as a sign of what could happen in the UK and Europe. Nigel Farage proclaimed ‘Britain’s future PM’ at champagne fuelled Trump celebration party Edited January 18 by pellinore 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted January 18 #2 Share Posted January 18 If Nigel Farage is the answer things must be every grim for the UK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted January 19 #3 Share Posted January 19 1 hour ago, Unusual Tournament said: If Nigel Farage is the answer things must be every grim for the UK Yes, things are grim in the UK, indeed. We now lock up the elderly for Facebook posts and thought crime. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsGently Posted January 19 #4 Share Posted January 19 This is so very surreal lately, the world has entered a mad phase. Right wingers somehow gain votes with dumb crap like fighting windmills? Don Quixote for president or wtf is this? Don't get me wrong I don't mind different views and approaches, and voices like Farage have a "Existenzberechtigung" ...as small minority in the opposition lol But just shows you where democracy fails, dumb and insane monkeys vote for dumb & insane monkeys, party doesn't matter it's just idiots riling up idiots over non-issues nothing but diversion and gaslighting. If that's our politics howtf is this supposed to go anywhere other than down the drain? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted January 19 #5 Share Posted January 19 53 minutes ago, MrsGently said: This is so very surreal lately, the world has entered a mad phase. Right wingers somehow gain votes with dumb crap like fighting windmills? Don Quixote for president or wtf is this? Don't get me wrong I don't mind different views and approaches, and voices like Farage have a "Existenzberechtigung" ...as small minority in the opposition lol But just shows you where democracy fails, dumb and insane monkeys vote for dumb & insane monkeys, party doesn't matter it's just idiots riling up idiots over non-issues nothing but diversion and gaslighting. If that's our politics howtf is this supposed to go anywhere other than down the drain? No one should be surprised in the shift in politics, Politicians are being elected on manifestos, policies and promises then once elected to office doing the complete opposite. and then the voters/people put up with it for 4 to 5 years and then vote again usually for the other side only for the other side to repeat what the previous lot done. Is it any wonder the people are going in a different direction. and its happening right across the Western world. Why are Billions of people in the western world with different cultures, on different continents and separated by thousands of miles of ocean all coming to the same conclusion? Civilisations come and go, somehow we don’t see our modern selves part of this cycle - are we witnessing the collapse, the fall of Western Civilisation? Political leaders have set about destroying western civilisation, the people are aware of this and are now pulling the handbrake, We've reached strange times in the Western world. we have written into Laws where you can lose your job if you get someone’s pronouns wrong, we have not just politicians but leaders who cant even tell us what a woman is any longer. - and people scratch their head and go what’s going on, Why are Billions of people voting in another direction. Political leaders need reminding they are there to serve the people, not the people there to serve them, taking our taxes like its their money to spend it on what they want. The post war liberal ideology era is over. we live in its creation, and the people are saying no, no more. and voting accordingly. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsGently Posted January 19 #6 Share Posted January 19 1 minute ago, stevewinn said: No one should be surprised in the shift in politics, Politicians are being elected on manifestos, policies and promises then once elected to office doing the complete opposite. and then the voters/people put up with it for 4 to 5 years and then vote again usually for the other side only for the other side to repeat what the previous lot done. Is it any wonder the people are going in a different direction. and its happening right across the Western world. Why are Billions of people in the western world with different cultures, on different continents and separated by thousands of miles of ocean all coming to the same conclusion? Civilisations come and go, somehow we don’t see our modern selves part of this cycle - are we witnessing the collapse, the fall of Western Civilisation? Political leaders have set about destroying western civilisation, the people are aware of this and are now pulling the handbrake, We've reached strange times in the Western world. we have written into Laws where you can lose your job if you get someone’s pronouns wrong, we have not just politicians but leaders who cant even tell us what a woman is any longer. - and people scratch their head and go what’s going on, Why are Billions of people voting in another direction. Political leaders need reminding they are there to serve the people, not the people there to serve them, taking our taxes like its their money to spend it on what they want. The post war liberal ideology era is over. we live in its creation, and the people are saying no, no more. and voting accordingly. Sort of agree, instead of hoping for tptb we should push for us, the people, getting the final votes not them. Vote on issues not the servant. You want to get a law through congress fine, but we decide with the last word, once they're done working it out for us. There's just no other way than actual participation of the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted January 19 #7 Share Posted January 19 2 minutes ago, stevewinn said: No one should be surprised in the shift in politics, Politicians are being elected on manifestos, policies and promises then once elected to office doing the complete opposite. and then the voters/people put up with it for 4 to 5 years and then vote again usually for the other side only for the other side to repeat what the previous lot done. Is it any wonder the people are going in a different direction. and its happening right across the Western world. Why are Billions of people in the western world with different cultures, on different continents and separated by thousands of miles of ocean all coming to the same conclusion? Civilisations come and go, somehow we don’t see our modern selves part of this cycle - are we witnessing the collapse, the fall of Western Civilisation? Political leaders have set about destroying western civilisation, the people are aware of this and are now pulling the handbrake, We've reached strange times in the Western world. we have written into Laws where you can lose your job if you get someone’s pronouns wrong, we have not just politicians but leaders who cant even tell us what a woman is any longer. - and people scratch their head and go what’s going on, Why are Billions of people voting in another direction. Political leaders need reminding they are there to serve the people, not the people there to serve them, taking our taxes like its their money to spend it on what they want. The post war liberal ideology era is over. we live in its creation, and the people are saying no, no more. and voting accordingly. The rise of populism is a vote against automatic government. Which we all find ourselves in. Changing political faces but keeping the same policies, Parties and economic models just doesn’t offer well informed voters a choice anymore. Western countries are trying to redefine themselves and the people don’t like it. It’s that simple Steve. It’s the age of social media and everyone has an opinion and a view on where they want to be. In particular, the digital economy, technology and dare i say immigration are turning our country’s upside down and people just don’t like it and who can blame them. Some country’s do it better and others struggle with this change. But generally look no further than the collapse of the Roman Empire for what the future holds. Mass immigration, declining birth rates, new religions and a shift from homogenous societies replaced by melting pots created the dark ages in Western Europe for hundreds of years. New country’s are gonna be born outta this chaos, new religions/science’s. Basically, decline happens when new ideas and thinking are stopped. So all these ailments are a sign of a dying system, in this case western society. In some ways it’s the snake shedding its skin to grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchopwn Posted January 19 #8 Share Posted January 19 (edited) 13 hours ago, pellinore said: Nigel Farage was proclaimed as “the next prime minister of Great Britain” at a huge party overlooking the White House to celebrate the upcoming inauguration of his friend and ally Donald Trump. The Stars and Stripes Union Jack reception on the rooftop of the Hay Adams hotel on Friday night became a gathering of the glitterate of the US and UK political right, with Maga Republicans rubbing shoulders with Reform UK, senior Conservatives, and Brexiteers. Organised by the so-called “bad boys of Brexit” Andy Wigmore and Arron Banks, who had initially been blocked from entering the US, along with leading Washington fixer Gerry Gunster, the party became a celebration of Farage (the guest honour) and his eight years of friendship with Trump. The victory of the incoming president against what many in the room saw as staggering odds was taken as a sign of what could happen in the UK and Europe. Nigel Farage proclaimed ‘Britain’s future PM’ at champagne fuelled Trump celebration party Putin can do far more damage with getting his stooges life Farage and Trump elected in foreign democracies than he can by going to war. Edited January 19 by Alchopwn 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted January 19 #9 Share Posted January 19 10 hours ago, Alchopwn said: Putin can do far more damage with getting his stooges life Farage and Trump elected in foreign democracies than he can by going to war. You're a bit behind the times mate. The long slow march through the institutions started 30 to 40 years ago, that's why universities are now peopled by Marxist professors turning out legions of Marxist students successfully shutting down free speech and creating leaders like Starmer and Macron. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted January 19 #10 Share Posted January 19 10 hours ago, Alchopwn said: Putin can do far more damage with getting his stooges life Farage and Trump elected in foreign democracies than he can by going to war. Like he controlled them in Trump's first administration? Like this:? https://www.brookings.edu/articles/on-the-record-the-u-s-administrations-actions-on-russia/ Your repeated lies on this make you look weak and like a political shill. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchopwn Posted January 20 #11 Share Posted January 20 15 hours ago, and-then said: Like he controlled them in Trump's first administration? Like this:? https://www.brookings.edu/articles/on-the-record-the-u-s-administrations-actions-on-russia/ Your repeated lies on this make you look weak and like a political shill. This looks pretty minimalist when compared to Biden's efforts. All I remember is when Trump met Putin at Helsinki on July 16th 2018 and came out parroting the Russian position. Even FOX called Trump a traitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted January 20 #12 Share Posted January 20 6 hours ago, Alchopwn said: This looks pretty minimalist when compared to Biden's efforts. All I remember is when Trump met Putin at Helsinki on July 16th 2018 and came out parroting the Russian position. Even FOX called Trump a traitor. Yes, and now because of Biden and the Dems the world is a much more dangerous place than back in 2018, and the talk of WW3 is a daily occurrence. Funny that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dream jo Posted January 22 #13 Share Posted January 22 People I've heard this a lot of people this man has got the balls to do things and not stand down to the snowflakes and charge I think charge of the country's and I hope it's okay saying this if not I'll apologise but it's able to say in the UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted February 7 #14 Share Posted February 7 Labour are doing a marvellous Job. Please do carry on. Reform need to gain just one more MP at some point during this Parliamentary term. - and there is one or two on the horizon, Local by elections that is. - this will then give Reform access public grant money for Policy development (table at the very bottom) 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted February 7 #15 Share Posted February 7 Reform GAIN from Labour (X2) Rochester East and Warren Wood (Medway) council by-election result: REF: 36.7% (+36.7) LAB: 32.9% (-22.0) CON: 20.2% (-5.8) GRN: 5.9% (-6.3) LDEM: 3.4% (-3.4) Well done. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted February 10 #16 Share Posted February 10 No autocue, no notes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted February 14 #17 Share Posted February 14 The Labour stronghold of Wales has seen the first Reform councillor elected. I wonder what the Results in the Local elections will bring in May. (those that haven’t been cancelled by Labour that is) Reform have real momentum. Quote First Reform councillor elected in Wales winning seat off Labour. A Reform politician has won a council by-election in Wales for the first time to fill a vacancy on Torfaen Borough Council following the resignation of a Labour councillor. Newly-elected councillor Stuart Keyte beat Labour by nearly 200 votes to win the Trevethin and Penygarn by-election https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/first-reform-councillor-elected-wales-31003072#comments-wrapper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted February 14 #18 Share Posted February 14 On 2/8/2025 at 2:55 AM, stevewinn said: Reform GAIN from Labour (X2) Rochester East and Warren Wood (Medway) council by-election result: REF: 36.7% (+36.7) LAB: 32.9% (-22.0) CON: 20.2% (-5.8) GRN: 5.9% (-6.3) LDEM: 3.4% (-3.4) Well done. Looks like Reform are drawing mostly from Labour. The working class have had enough of cultural enrichment it seems 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted February 15 #19 Share Posted February 15 16 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said: Looks like Reform are drawing mostly from Labour. The working class have had enough of cultural enrichment it seems indeed, hence the pathetic attempt to re take control of the narrative on illegal immigration. Labour Govt showing video clips of illegals boarding planes, and Car washes and Nail bars raided by Police and UK Immigration. As i said, the people can see right through it, the people have stopped listening. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickian Posted February 15 #20 Share Posted February 15 On 1/18/2025 at 7:46 PM, itsnotoutthere said: Yes, things are grim in the UK, indeed. We now lock up the elderly for Facebook posts and thought crime. Their government has definitely turned hostile towards it's own people. From what stories and criminal judgements I've seen, they actively protect foreign attackers and punish native victims. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZUK Posted February 16 #21 Share Posted February 16 This government has been in charge for less than a year. They have to row back on 14 years and 5 utterly useless Prime Minister's worth of mistakes. They have not had a honeymoon period because things were and are so badly ****ed up. Keir Starmer is not Mr Charisma and it already looks like some of his Minister's are as seriously ****e as the Tories. But I will give them a fair chance to turn things round. And I would rather shoot myself than have Nigel Fartrage as a Prime Minister. Actually, scratch that, I'd rather someone shoot him... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZUK Posted March 7 #22 Share Posted March 7 The dishonourable dangling member for Florida South has gotten his loving acolytes to put the boot into one of his more successful Reform competitors. Rupert Lowe (Elmo's nominated replacement) has been accused of taking favours with ladies, ala rapist Trump. He maintains its a put up job because he smeared Nicotine Nige's messianic tendencies in an interview the day before, and Dr No Thanks unleashed his vengeful harpies on the ex chairman of Southampton FC, who as a result, no longer has any balls..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted March 8 #23 Share Posted March 8 13 hours ago, GAZUK said: The dishonourable dangling member for Florida South has gotten his loving acolytes to put the boot into one of his more successful Reform competitors. Rupert Lowe (Elmo's nominated replacement) has been accused of taking favours with ladies, ala rapist Trump. He maintains its a put up job because he smeared Nicotine Nige's messianic tendencies in an interview the day before, and Dr No Thanks unleashed his vengeful harpies on the ex chairman of Southampton FC, who as a result, no longer has any balls..... very well put together made me laugh, It would seem once the woman made the allegation the process had to start regardless. - But the timing is suspect dont you think, Lowe makes a comment about Farage and within a day or two this happens. - it happens in all parties, but with Reform being only a small party its like bleedin' amateur hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZUK Posted March 8 #24 Share Posted March 8 3 hours ago, stevewinn said: very well put together made me laugh, It would seem once the woman made the allegation the process had to start regardless. - But the timing is suspect dont you think, Lowe makes a comment about Farage and within a day or two this happens. - it happens in all parties, but with Reform being only a small party its like bleedin' amateur hour. Extremely Shakesperian. I'm sure Reform will implode from within, as all parties allied to Comrade Farage seem wont to do. He clearly doesn't play with others. That is why he will never go to the Tories. They, even under the (hopefully short lived) purview of Badenough, are too broad a party for the self proclaimed Man of the People, who seems entirely able to pick a fight in a locked room with only himself present. It's certainly odd that the Soviets now try to influence the Right Wing rather than the Left in the UK. They used to recruit the lefties in college back in the 80s but they obviously don't meet the political needs of RasPutin, the war profiteer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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