Jan. 6 prosecutor: Rioters freed by Trump ‘have never been more dangerous’

[joseraul]

12 minutes ago, Link of Hyrule said:

You're justifying violence because you don't like the guy. To repeat - being the target of assassination isn't evidence that the person is inhumane, you've simply stated it as truth and expected everyone to agree with you. 

It's not ''justifying'' if it's an observation based on human history.

https://trumphumanrightstracker.law.columbia.edu/

 

When you start violating/threatening human rights, **** happens.

 

Edited January 30 by joseraul

[Zebra3]

LOL. Columbia? They're busy right now unclogging cement from their toilets. Because Jews.

[+Link of Hyrule]

3 minutes ago, joseraul said:

It's not ''justifying'' if it's an observation based on human history.

https://trumphumanrightstracker.law.columbia.edu/

 

When you start violating/threatening human rights, **** happens.

 

I think we need to agree to disagree. You've blanket stated that Trump is inhumane because he has an assassination attempt made against him. Ignoring the implication and accepting that you weren't talking more broadly, that still leaves you making said blanket statement about Trump, and many people disagree with you. Claiming he's inhumane doesn't make him inhumane. In fact, Trump has a higher approval rating right now than at any time in his previous four year run as president. 

[joseraul]

3 minutes ago, Link of Hyrule said:

I think we need to agree to disagree. You've blanket stated that Trump is inhumane because he has an assassination attempt made against him. Ignoring the implication and accepting that you weren't talking more broadly, that still leaves you making said blanket statement about Trump, and many people disagree with you. Claiming he's inhumane doesn't make him inhumane. In fact, Trump has a higher approval rating right now than at any time in his previous four year run as president. 

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- At 47%, President Donald Trump's initial job approval rating for his second term is similar to the inaugural 45% reading during his first term, again placing him below all other elected presidents dating back to 1953. Trump remains the only elected president with sub-50% initial approval ratings, and his latest disapproval rating (48%) is three percentage points higher than in 2017, marking a new high for inaugural ratings.

 

https://news.gallup.com/poll/655955/trump-inaugural-approval-rating-historically-low-again.aspx

[+Link of Hyrule]

2 minutes ago, joseraul said:

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- At 47%, President Donald Trump's initial job approval rating for his second term is similar to the inaugural 45% reading during his first term, again placing him below all other elected presidents dating back to 1953. Trump remains the only elected president with sub-50% initial approval ratings, and his latest disapproval rating (48%) is three percentage points higher than in 2017, marking a new high for inaugural ratings.

 

https://news.gallup.com/poll/655955/trump-inaugural-approval-rating-historically-low-again.aspx

 

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Donald Trump's Approval Rating Now Higher Than in First Term

President Donald Trump is seeing higher approval ratings now than at the beginning of his first term, according to recent polling.

Why It Matters

Republicans are currently enjoying a wave of popularity nationwide—Trump improved his margins in all but two states in the 2024 presidential election, and the GOP now controls both the Senate and the House.

Polls have also shown that Trump has higher approval ratings among groups that don't traditionally vote Republican, indicating a realignment in voter demographics that could have lasting implications for future elections.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-approval-rating-2023602

 

 

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‘Astonishing’: Trump's approval rating reaches historic high in first week of second term

Spectator Australia’s ‘Fire at Will’ podcast host Will Kingston has reacted to a recent Reuters/Ipsos poll revealing that US President Donald Trump ended his first week as president with his highest approval rating ever.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/astonishing-trump-s-approval-rating-reaches-historic-high-in-first-week-of-second-term/ar-AA1xYSy7

But let's be real, Trump's popularity is irrelevant to whether he is "inhumane". I don't believe he is. You apparently do. But stating that he is, as you have, doesn't prove it, and his attempted assassination is certainly not any kind of proof of this. 

 

 

 

 

 

[+OverSword]

I truly feel sorry for people that get delusional over elected officials.  What hell it must be to live at a constant simmer about to erupt.

 

[Zebra3]

All hate, all the time. Gotta be exhausting.

[Harte]

18 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

Well now if it had been a couple hundred Antifa that Biden pardoned, I suspect MAGA would be getting a bit upset. 

He didn't have the chance. Not many were ever arrested or even identified.

Harte

[joseraul]

20 minutes ago, Link of Hyrule said:

 

 

But let's be real, Trump's popularity is irrelevant to whether he is "inhumane". I don't believe he is. You apparently do. But stating that he is, as you have, doesn't prove it, and his attempted assassination is certainly not any kind of proof of this. 

 

 

 

 

 

His personal approval rating is higher but not compared to other presidents.

 

Go research online about how he is inhumane/threatens human rights* just like you research how he isn't. I posted a link above, that's a start.

Edited January 30 by joseraul

[+Link of Hyrule]

7 minutes ago, joseraul said:

His personal approval rating is higher but not compared to other presidents.

 

Go research online about how he is inhumane just like you research how he isn't. I posted a link above, that's a start.

Any attempt to prove or disprove it is an exercise in futility. Suffice it to say I disagree with you. 

[Harte]

7 minutes ago, joseraul said:

His personal approval rating is higher but not compared to other presidents.

 

Go research online about how he is inhumane just like you research how he isn't. I posted a link above, that's a start.

No thanks.
I read your link and saw not one single item that couyld be considered "inhumane."
This country doesn't allow anyone to come here any time for any reason and be allowed to live here the rest of their lives. Nor does ANY OTHER COUNTRY.
We have laws. Trump merely enforces them.

You don't like the law? Change it.

Harte
 

[joseraul]

1 minute ago, Harte said:

No thanks.
I read your link and saw not one single item that couyld be considered "inhumane."
This country doesn't allow anyone to come here any time for any reason and be allowed to live here the rest of their lives. Nor does ANY OTHER COUNTRY.
We have laws. Trump merely enforces them.

You don't like the law? Change it.

Harte
 

 

That's the plan.

[Unusual Tournament]

18 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

Well now if it had been a couple hundred Antifa that Biden pardoned, I suspect MAGA would be getting a bit upset. 

Biden also pardoned a killer of two FBI agents. 
Hard to moralise one way or the other 

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/biden-sparks-outrage-minute-commutation-leonard-peltier-man/story?id=117909582

[Tatetopa]

4 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said:

Biden also pardoned a killer of two FBI agents. 
Hard to moralise one way or the other 

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/biden-sparks-outrage-minute-commutation-leonard-peltier-man/story?id=117909582

I get that, it is not solely one side.  I can moralize about it though.  Whether it is Antifa or Proud Boys, they may be patriotic and love the country in their own ways, but when you attack and injure police or peace officers, that should be a no-go.

[Unusual Tournament]

32 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

I get that, it is not solely one side.  I can moralize about it though.  Whether it is Antifa or Proud Boys, they may be patriotic and love the country in their own ways, but when you attack and injure police or peace officers, that should be a no-go.

I agree. Politicising the justice system is wrong in every sense

[+DieChecker]

Both Reagan, and Bush 1, had initial approval around 50%.

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/presidential-job-approval-ratings

48% isn't that different.

Reagan at least, went on to gain a lot of approval later.

[+DieChecker]

On 1/29/2025 at 12:42 PM, OverSword said:

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5106487-prosecutor-jan-6-rioters-freed-dangerous/

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...as unjust prosecutions,” he wrote.

“Freed by the president, they have never been more dangerous,” the ex-prosecutor added.

 

Hyperbole. Say inflated statements in an attempt to create fear, and influence the public opinion.

[+DieChecker]

On 1/29/2025 at 11:24 PM, Tatetopa said:

Well now if it had been a couple hundred Antifa that Biden pardoned, I suspect MAGA would be getting a bit upset. 

Didn't that already happen? The BLM riots in Portland.

But those weren't charged with Federal Crimes. Most, though even more violent than Jan6, for months, weren't charged at all.

[Michelle]

15 hours ago, DieChecker said:

Both Reagan, and Bush 1, had initial approval around 50%.

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/presidential-job-approval-ratings

48% isn't that different.

Reagan at least, went on to gain a lot of approval later.

CNN has Trump's approval rating at 57%. The highest ever at this point in a presidency.

[Tatetopa]

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/jan-6-rioter-pardoned-trump-220821744.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAADkyBTskjGaLz0WJUQaL9Eji5r3PX8cAF88ufqB6d3eJmmox7FpDWZ6HeK9ygTi0vMSM8

Jan. 6 Rioter Pardoned By Trump Sentenced For DUI Crash That Killed Mom Of 2

MAGA where are your tears for Victoria Wilson? Do you weep for her motherless children? 

 

 

[+Link of Hyrule]

28 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/jan-6-rioter-pardoned-trump-220821744.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAADkyBTskjGaLz0WJUQaL9Eji5r3PX8cAF88ufqB6d3eJmmox7FpDWZ6HeK9ygTi0vMSM8

Jan. 6 Rioter Pardoned By Trump Sentenced For DUI Crash That Killed Mom Of 2

MAGA where are your tears for Victoria Wilson? Do you weep for her motherless children? 

 

 

Did Trump's pardon play a role in this DUI that occurred on January 5, 2022?

Sounds like criminals gonna crim.  She's not an illegal immigrant, right? Like, she got a legal right to be in the country, she didn't avoid being deported after J6? She wasn't let out early from pardons and went and killed someone?

It's sad this happened,  but not comparable to an illegal immigrant being let go instead of being deported who then goes on to commit crimes.

Edited January 31 by Link of Hyrule

[Tatetopa]

1 hour ago, Link of Hyrule said:

Did Trump's pardon play a role in this DUI that occurred on January 5, 2022?

Sounds like criminals gonna crim.  She's not an illegal immigrant, right? Like, she got a legal right to be in the country, she didn't avoid being deported after J6? She wasn't let out early from pardons and went and killed someone?

It's sad this happened,  but not comparable to an illegal immigrant being let go instead of being deported who then goes on to commit crimes.

Not comparable?  Somebody released just killed an innocent woman.  There are still two children without a mother and a critically injured father.  Maybe they are not comparable but that has never stopped MAGA from using that line.

Thanks @Link of Hyrule, I knew somebody would explain it to me.  Don't forget thoughts and prayers. 

[+Link of Hyrule]

53 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

Not comparable?  Somebody released just killed an innocent woman.  There are still two children without a mother and a critically injured father.  Maybe they are not comparable but that has never stopped MAGA from using that line.

Thanks @Link of Hyrule, I knew somebody would explain it to me.  Don't forget thoughts and prayers. 

"Somebody released just killed an innocent woman"? Please explain your meaning as I don't understand, given the facts available.

[Doc Socks Junior]

1 hour ago, Tatetopa said:

Not comparable?  Somebody released just killed an innocent woman.  There are still two children without a mother and a critically injured father.  Maybe they are not comparable but that has never stopped MAGA from using that line.

Now now, this pardoned individual mowed down the innocent woman in 2022. 

Thus, her pardon, just recently, postdates the killing. So, the pardon isn't really responsible for the violence perpetrated. One might question the wisdom of pardoning such a person, but suffice to say:

Would you discredit Trump's justice?
    Would you condemn him to justify yourself?
Do you have an arm like Trump's,
    and can your voice thunder like his?

1 hour ago, Tatetopa said:

Thanks @Link of Hyrule, I knew somebody would explain it to me.  Don't forget thoughts and prayers. 

Some things remain constant.

[+Link of Hyrule]

22 minutes ago, Doc Socks Junior said:

Now now, this pardoned individual mowed down the innocent woman in 2022. 

Thus, her pardon, just recently, postdates the killing. So, the pardon isn't really responsible for the violence perpetrated. One might question the wisdom of pardoning such a person, but suffice to say:

Would you discredit Trump's justice?
    Would you condemn him to justify yourself?
Do you have an arm like Trump's,
    and can your voice thunder like his?

Some things remain constant.

So because she committed act A she shouldn't be pardoned for act B, even though A and B are unrelated? 

Edited February 1 by Link of Hyrule