pellinore Posted February 2 #1 Share Posted February 2 (edited) It seems as if the US has declared war on itself. Can't Congress put the brakes on? Fear gripped Washington this morning as it emerged Elon Musk had gained access to the Treasury Department's payment system. The system is run by non-political career civil servants and controls trillions of dollars of government funds that go to programs like Social Security and Medicare. Any interruption in its operation would spark widespread economic failure. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent gave Musk's Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) the green light to have full access to the payments system late on Friday. It comes after a standoff this week with top Treasury official David Lebryk, who was in charge of the system through Donald Trump's first term and during Biden's tenure. Lebryk had resisted Musk's attempts to access the system. He was abruptly placed on leave before announcing his retirement on Friday. Fear grips DC as Musk gains access to sensitive Treasury Department payment system that controls $5TRILLION | Daily Mail Online Edited February 2 by pellinore 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted February 2 #2 Share Posted February 2 I love it when a plan comes together. Their heads are exploding because they know things are becoming seriously uncovered about how this money is being spent. 5 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megaro Posted February 2 #3 Share Posted February 2 An interesting quote from the OP's link: Quote Democrats and the liberal press erupted over Musk's move - with the likes of Sen. Elizabeth Warren calling for Congress to investigate Musk's new power, and Rep. Pramila Jayapal saying the ordeal 'reeks of corruption.' Senator Warren may want to investigate Musk, yet she does not express interest in investigating a potentially greater problem: Quote The @DOGE team discovered, among other things, that payment approval officers at Treasury were instructed always to approve payments, even to known fraudulent or terrorist groups. They literally never denied a payment in their entire career. Not even once Maybe it takes a Trump supporting billionaire to have enough clout and muscle to find out where the money in DC is really going. Can anyone say that Senator Warren is poorer now than she was when she took office ? What about Rep. Jayapal. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted February 2 #4 Share Posted February 2 53 minutes ago, and-then said: I love it when a plan comes together. Their heads are exploding because they know things are becoming seriously uncovered about how this money is being spent. Is it that or is it the fact Elon's hand is in our pocket? 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted February 2 #5 Share Posted February 2 3 minutes ago, Tatetopa said: Is it that or is it the fact Elon's hand is in our pocket? No one in DOGE has the authority to spend a penny of that money. This is about uncovering who is getting what. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megaro Posted February 3 #6 Share Posted February 3 9 minutes ago, Tatetopa said: Is it that or is it the fact Elon's hand is in our pocket? Brother Tate, if they are in DC, their hands are already in our pockets 😄 That's why they are there 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cho Jinn Posted February 3 #7 Share Posted February 3 It may be lost on our overseas friends, on UE, but what is happening is completely glorious. USAID which, apparently, has been spending our money funding EcoHealth and various NGOs went dark and is being brought under the State Department. Basically, they refused an audit and at least the top two heads rolled. Hope and change, indeed, albeit 16 years late. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cho Jinn Posted February 3 #8 Share Posted February 3 11 minutes ago, and-then said: No one in DOGE has the authority to spend a penny of that money. This is about uncovering who is getting what. Hence, the freakout. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Link of Hyrule Posted February 3 #9 Share Posted February 3 (edited) Remember all, FEAR has GRIPPED Washington. And WHY is this fear present? Because Trump is giving people tools to do the jobs they were hired to do. But don't forget this is SCARY, we need to FEAR this, because the media TOLD us to be afraid. Edited February 3 by Link of Hyrule 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent0range Posted February 3 #10 Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, and-then said: No one in DOGE has the authority to spend a penny of that money. This is about uncovering who is getting what. As a federal employee, I can tell you that our pay is not a secret. It's literally public record. But you are all about this non-american having his hands in the government. To be honest, he's probably more capable than the dumbass you voted for. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent0range Posted February 3 #11 Share Posted February 3 24 minutes ago, Link of Hyrule said: Remember all, FEAR has GRIPPED Washington. And WHY is this fear present? Because Trump is giving people tools to do the jobs they were hired to do. But don't forget this is SCARY, we need to FEAR this, because the media TOLD us to be afraid. LOL, what tools? Be specific. It's funny that you say "we" when you don't live here. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz_Light_Year Posted February 3 #12 Share Posted February 3 12 minutes ago, Agent0range said: But you are all about this non-american having his hands in the government. Musk became a U.S. citizen in 2002. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent0range Posted February 3 #13 Share Posted February 3 So? He isn't American. He wasn't born here. Literally, he is less American than the constitution applies that they want to change. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megaro Posted February 3 #14 Share Posted February 3 He was born in Africa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted February 3 #15 Share Posted February 3 Eh, just more power being handed to a unaccountable, unelected official with global rather than American views and aspirations. What could go wrong? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted February 3 #16 Share Posted February 3 9 minutes ago, Gromdor said: Eh, just more power being handed to an unaccountable, unelected official with global rather than American views and aspirations. What could go wrong? Inversely … what could go right? IMAGINE the pay rises the politicians could give themselves from the savings!! SUNLIT UPLANDS! AMERICA BEING GREATIFIED AGSIN! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Link of Hyrule Posted February 3 #17 Share Posted February 3 (edited) 1 hour ago, Agent0range said: LOL, what tools? Be specific. In this instance, the Treasury Department's payment system being given to Musk, who was hired to help save money. Sounds like something that requires the Treasury Department's payment system... 1 hour ago, Agent0range said: It's funny that you say "we" when you don't live here. We = "people reading the news". Not just Americans! Edited February 3 by Link of Hyrule 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted February 3 #18 Share Posted February 3 2 hours ago, and-then said: No one in DOGE has the authority to spend a penny of that money. This is about uncovering who is getting what. Which is what the GAO does. Some efficiency duplicating a Congress function. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted February 3 #19 Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, Link of Hyrule said: Remember all, FEAR has GRIPPED Washington. And WHY is this fear present? Because Trump is giving people tools to do the jobs they were hired to do. But don't forget this is SCARY, we need to FEAR this, because the media TOLD us to be afraid. What fear? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Link of Hyrule Posted February 3 #20 Share Posted February 3 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Golden Duck said: What fear? The fear that Musk is going to suddenly stop things like social security, despite the fact he's never indicated he would do anything of the sort. FEAR!!!! Edited February 3 by Link of Hyrule 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted February 3 #21 Share Posted February 3 1 minute ago, Link of Hyrule said: The fear that Musk is going to suddenly stop things like social security, despite the fact he's never indicated he would do anything of the sort. FEAR!!!! It seems like many in this topic don't know the Mission of the United States Digital Service 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Link of Hyrule Posted February 3 #22 Share Posted February 3 3 minutes ago, Golden Duck said: It seems like many in this topic don't know the Mission of the United States Digital Service Enlighten us, what is the Mission of the United States Digital Service? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Link of Hyrule Posted February 3 #23 Share Posted February 3 7 minutes ago, Golden Duck said: It seems like many in this topic don't know the Mission of the United States Digital Service 3 minutes ago, Link of Hyrule said: Enlighten us, what is the Mission of the United States Digital Service? From the US Digital Service site: Quote Our mission To deliver better government services to the American people through technology and design. Not sure how this relates to the OP, though, and the fear they are using to try to scare people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted February 3 #24 Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, Link of Hyrule said: From the US Digital Service site: Not sure how this relates to the OP, though, and the fear they are using to try to scare people. The topic is about Elon Musk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Link of Hyrule Posted February 3 #25 Share Posted February 3 7 minutes ago, Golden Duck said: The topic is about Elon Musk. Disagree. While he's present in the topic, the topic, based on the headline, is actually about folks being afraid of Musk's new power, even though no one in Trump's administration has ever said they would stop any social security. Quote Fear grips DC as Musk gains access to sensitive Treasury Department payment system that controls $5TRILLION But even if I 100% agreed with you, I don't see how the United States Digital Service Mission is relevant here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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