pellinore Posted March 13 #1 Share Posted March 13 (edited) The US Coward-in-Chief cowers before Putin, but is very brave facing a few thousand unarmed Inuits. Trump, who called Zelensky 'a man without a suit', is revealing himself as a suit without a man. President Donald Trump on Thursday reiterated the United States 'needs' Greenland for national security purposes and indicated he's willing to send in American troops to take control of the island. 'I think it'll happen,' the president said of annexing the island during his Oval Office meeting with NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte. 'We really needed for national security. I think that is why NATO might have to get involved anyway,' he added. Trump then noted the U.S. already has a military base on Greenland. 'We have a couple of bases on Greenland already and we have quite a few soldiers. May be you will see more and more soldiers go there,' he threatened. 'We have bases and we have quite a few soldiers on Greenland.' Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, who was sitting on a couch in the Oval Office during the conversation, nodded in agreement. Trump hints at sending U.S. soldiers to take over Greenland: 'I think it'll happen' | Daily Mail Online Edited March 13 by pellinore 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted March 13 #2 Share Posted March 13 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣............... .......................😆 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted March 13 #3 Share Posted March 13 If Trump pressure Greenland into a referendum, according to a treaty from the early 20th century, Denmark has to offer Greenland to the UK first. Are we going to have a spare £300 billion to do it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted March 13 Author #4 Share Posted March 13 20 minutes ago, Piney said: 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣............... .......................😆 There is no doubt that Trump believes occupying and absorbing both Greenland and Canada is both feasible and desirable. He is mentally unstable and probably below average IQ anyway. Putin is playing him by telling him he is a genius. The USA needs to get him committed to an asylum asap! 2 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted March 13 Author #5 Share Posted March 13 2 minutes ago, Duke Wellington said: If Trump pressure Greenland into a referendum, according to a treaty from the early 20th century, Denmark has to offer Greenland to the UK first. Are we going to have a spare £300 billion to do it? Greenland is part of Europe, so the UK would not have to "buy" it. It is part of our continent already. But we may be drawn into conflict with the US- not a big problem as the US has already declared a trade war on the UK. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted March 14 #6 Share Posted March 14 US troops are NOT going to "invade" Greenland but the rationale behind this issue is that the "warming" we hear so much about is changing the dynamics of future world trade and access to mineral wealth in a region that is increasingly less ice-locked. Greenland can refuse our presence, but they won't get that luxury if Russia or China comes calling. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHunter Posted March 14 #7 Share Posted March 14 5 hours ago, pellinore said: Greenland is part of Europe, so the UK would not have to "buy" it. It is part of our continent already. But we may be drawn into conflict with the US- not a big problem as the US has already declared a trade war on the UK. Greenland is completely on the North America tectonic plate and is a part of the North America continent. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted March 14 Author #8 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 4 hours ago, DarkHunter said: Greenland is completely on the North America tectonic plate and is a part of the North America continent. You must share your president's delusion. It is part of Europe: Greenland (Greenlandic: Kalaallit Nunaat, pronounced [kalaːɬːit nʉnaːt]; Danish: Grønland, pronounced [ˈkʁɶnˌlænˀ]) is an autonomous territory[e] in the Kingdom of Denmark.[15][16] It is by far the largest of three constituent parts of the kingdom; the other two are metropolitan Denmark and the Faroe Islands. The citizens of all territories are full citizens of Denmark. Greenland is one of the Overseas Countries and Territories of the European Union and is part of the Council of Europe.[17] Greenland - Wikipedia Edited March 14 by pellinore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted March 14 #9 Share Posted March 14 (edited) Another TDS thread!! Stop.. you're embarrassing yourself. Edited March 14 by itsnotoutthere 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHunter Posted March 14 #10 Share Posted March 14 3 minutes ago, pellinore said: You must share your president's delusion. It is part of Europe: Greenland (Greenlandic: Kalaallit Nunaat, pronounced [kalaːɬːit nʉnaːt]; Danish: Grønland, pronounced [ˈkʁɶnˌlænˀ]) is an autonomous territory[e] in the Kingdom of Denmark.[15][16] It is by far the largest of three constituent parts of the kingdom; the other two are metropolitan Denmark and the Faroe Islands. The citizens of all territories are full citizens of Denmark. Greenland is one of the Overseas Countries and Territories of the European Union and is part of the Council of Europe.[17] Greenland - Wikipedia You have gone completely off the deep end with your hatred for Trump. So many places to start so might as well start with this 9 hours ago, pellinore said: It is part of our continent already From a geological perspective that is very simply not true As can very clearly be seen, Greenland is safely part of the North American tectonic plate. From an ethnic perspective 89.7% of the population of Greenland is Inuit so from an ethnic perspective Greenland is also North American and not European. Politically, and this is going to be the part that probably annoys you the most, Greenland is not part of the EU. Before the EU existed and it was still the EC Greenland voted to leave the EC in 1982 and fully left in 1985. Due to Greenland being owned by Denmark they are part of the OCT of the EU but they are not part of or in the EU or the EU single market. https://international-partnerships.ec.europa.eu/countries/overseas-countries-and-territories_en#:~:text=OCTs are neither part of,access to the EU market). "Relations between the OCTs and the EU date back to the signature of the Treaty of Rome in 1957. OCTs are neither part of the EU territory nor of the EU single market. Through the Association, the OCTs enjoy a special political, cooperation and commercial partnership with the EU (duty-free and quota-free access to the EU market). " So geographically, ethnically, and politically Greenland is not part of the EU. Even a common speech argument would fail to put Greenland in the EU. Ultimately you are wrong Atleast you are no longer making constant threads and posts about how Brexit is the single worst thing to happen in history and how it will be soon be reverted. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted March 14 #11 Share Posted March 14 5 hours ago, DarkHunter said: Greenland is completely on the North America tectonic plate and is a part of the North America continent. So? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ell Posted March 14 #12 Share Posted March 14 Can polar bears be shorn like sheep? Can their hairs be spun like wool? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHunter Posted March 14 #13 Share Posted March 14 5 minutes ago, Abramelin said: So? There is no basis on which Greenland is part of the EU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted March 14 #14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 2 minutes ago, DarkHunter said: There is no basis on which Greenland is part of the EU There's also no basis on which Greenland is part of the US. Edited March 14 by Abramelin 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHunter Posted March 14 #15 Share Posted March 14 3 minutes ago, Abramelin said: There's also no basis on which Greenland is part of the US. I never made any claim that Greenland is part of the US, I have just refuted the statement that Greenland is in the EU and/or a part of Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 14 #16 Share Posted March 14 17 minutes ago, Abramelin said: There's also no basis on which Greenland is part of the US. Interesting side fact, Greenland has officially joined NATO. https://nordicreporter.com/2023/03/greenland-joins-nato-almost-74-years-after-military-alliance-was-founded/ 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted March 14 #17 Share Posted March 14 2 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: Interesting side fact, Greenland has officially joined NATO. https://nordicreporter.com/2023/03/greenland-joins-nato-almost-74-years-after-military-alliance-was-founded/ Better send that to that orange chimp. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 14 #18 Share Posted March 14 2 minutes ago, Abramelin said: Better send that to that orange chimp. Hopefully, it gives them some protection because no NATO has to date invaded another and that threat has been openly made. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted March 14 #19 Share Posted March 14 (edited) https://news.sky.com/story/greenlands-voters-choose-slow-approach-to-independence-as-demokraatit-wins-election-dominated-by-donald-trump-13326864 "We don't want to be Americans. No, we don't want to be Danes. We want to be Greenlanders. And we want our own independence in the future. And we want to build our own country by ourselves" Edited March 14 by Abramelin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 14 #20 Share Posted March 14 1 hour ago, Abramelin said: https://news.sky.com/story/greenlands-voters-choose-slow-approach-to-independence-as-demokraatit-wins-election-dominated-by-donald-trump-13326864 "We don't want to be Americans. No, we don't want to be Danes. We want to be Greenlanders. And we want our own independence in the future. And we want to build our own country by ourselves" That should be the end of the conversation! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted March 14 Author #21 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 5 hours ago, DarkHunter said: You have gone completely off the deep end with your hatred for Trump. So many places to start so might as well start with this From a geological perspective that is very simply not true As can very clearly be seen, Greenland is safely part of the North American tectonic plate. From an ethnic perspective 89.7% of the population of Greenland is Inuit so from an ethnic perspective Greenland is also North American and not European. Politically, and this is going to be the part that probably annoys you the most, Greenland is not part of the EU. Before the EU existed and it was still the EC Greenland voted to leave the EC in 1982 and fully left in 1985. Due to Greenland being owned by Denmark they are part of the OCT of the EU but they are not part of or in the EU or the EU single market. https://international-partnerships.ec.europa.eu/countries/overseas-countries-and-territories_en#:~:text=OCTs are neither part of,access to the EU market). "Relations between the OCTs and the EU date back to the signature of the Treaty of Rome in 1957. OCTs are neither part of the EU territory nor of the EU single market. Through the Association, the OCTs enjoy a special political, cooperation and commercial partnership with the EU (duty-free and quota-free access to the EU market). " So geographically, ethnically, and politically Greenland is not part of the EU. Even a common speech argument would fail to put Greenland in the EU. Ultimately you are wrong Atleast you are no longer making constant threads and posts about how Brexit is the single worst thing to happen in history and how it will be soon be reverted. So on this geological argument, you are prepared for the US to give up its islands in the Pacific? Edited March 14 by pellinore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted March 14 Author #22 Share Posted March 14 5 hours ago, DarkHunter said: There is no basis on which Greenland is part of the EU 4 hours ago, Abramelin said: https://news.sky.com/story/greenlands-voters-choose-slow-approach-to-independence-as-demokraatit-wins-election-dominated-by-donald-trump-13326864 "We don't want to be Americans. No, we don't want to be Danes. We want to be Greenlanders. And we want our own independence in the future. And we want to build our own country by ourselves" 3 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: That should be the end of the conversation! A country has to be sovereign to be part of the EU, in fact they to meet strict criteria incl. the guarantee of democracy, the rule of law, human rights, competitive markets, etc. etc. @DarkHunter is wrong, Greenland is a member of the EU but not a full member (it is an OCT); but there is nothing stopping it leaving the EU completely (as the UK did in 2016). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted March 14 #23 Share Posted March 14 54 minutes ago, pellinore said: @DarkHunter is wrong, Greenland is a member of the EU but not a full member (it is an OCT); but there is nothing stopping it leaving the EU completely (as the UK did in 2016). He only corrected you because you said Greenland is part of Europe, and it isn't. But it's a bit about nitpicking: Aruba, Bonaire and Curaçao belong to the Netherlands, but does that make these islands part of Europe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHunter Posted March 14 #24 Share Posted March 14 1 hour ago, pellinore said: A country has to be sovereign to be part of the EU, in fact they to meet strict criteria incl. the guarantee of democracy, the rule of law, human rights, competitive markets, etc. etc. @DarkHunter is wrong, Greenland is a member of the EU but not a full member (it is an OCT); but there is nothing stopping it leaving the EU completely (as the UK did in 2016). To avoid wasting time are you planning on just ignoring all the EU documents and statements that say the OCTs are not part of EU territory or the EU single market. Ir you are just going to blatantly ignore objective reality itself there is really no need to go any further with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted March 14 Author #25 Share Posted March 14 18 minutes ago, Abramelin said: He only corrected you because you said Greenland is part of Europe, and it isn't. But it's a bit about nitpicking: Aruba, Bonaire and Curaçao belong to the Netherlands, but does that make these islands part of Europe? But is is part of Europe currently, and has no ties with the US: Greenland profile - BBC News . Using the tectonic plate argument is ridiculous, it would mean the US would have to cede Hawaii, and have claims on Iceland and Russia. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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