"New Rome"

[Sunofone]

the nazi salute has been traced to america,specifically rome near NY,where segregated "socialists" said their pledge of allidence with the extended straight right arm in 1892--the grand illusion is crumbling--another reich is emerging--"military socialists" are the neo-cons of the day and are the ones responsible for global terrorism(dispute and war being their "shining" technique--note the fasces bundles in this flag similar to the ones behind the senate podium at congress--

To this very day, the school banner for the Rome Free Academy appears as it does on this page http://rexcurry.net/pledgerome.html  It contains two fasces (axes through the middle of wood with binding).  The fasces actually was a symbol of government authority in ancient Rome.  The straight-arm salute was not.  The word "fasces" is the origin of the word "fascism."  Mussolini was a long-time socialist and adopted the term "fascist" to describe his dogma late in his life. see below and http://rexcurry.net/mussolini.html

timeline for terror

The so-called “Roman salute” (saluto romano) is as much of a fiction as is the so-called “Roman step” (passo romano) as is the idea that the National Socialist German Workers’ Party emulated Mussolini and not vice versa.

The most notorious instance of Italy imitating the National Socialist German Workers’ Party was in the racist laws imposed in November 1938.

Before and during it all (from 1892), children in the U.S. attended government-schools where racism and segregation were mandated by law, and where they performed a straight-armed salute to the U.S. flag, and were forced to robotically chant a pledge written by a national socialist who wanted to produce an “industrial army” for totalitarian socialism as popularized worldwide in a best-selling novel.

to learn more visit http://www.rexcurry.net

[dmgspycat]

I know of that term "industrial army". People can say what they want about FD Roosevelt but the fact is that the corporate industrialists here in America like Sloan, Mellon, DuPont, Raskob(GM) did try to use a fellow by the name of Smedley Butler for the purpose of a coup against FDR. These corporate forces bragged to Mr.Butler of a private mercenary army of about 40,000 strong and they wanted him to use his influence over the army to complete the effort to take out FDR. How do we know about this? Butler went public! A true American. That's patriotism. The real reason America was kept out of the war was because those companys were making money with the Nazis...they didn't want FDR interfering. Why isn't this in our history books? Indeed...why not. This country has been taken over long ago by these same forces...even though alot of this is public information, it is not presented in an informative manner like on the news for instance...why not? Because alot of money has been paid to keep this information hidden from the general public...damning information. Why doesn't the FBI do something about it? Well that's obvious isn't it? We are talking treason here and nothing has ever been done about it. To me...it is clear that there is an evergoing agenda to consolidate thier power.

[Sunofone]

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[Sunofone]

To me...it is clear that there is an evergoing agenda to consolidate thier power.

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i agree spycat --corporations have "taken over" everything from roads paid for with tax dollars to our childrens future potential output-- its a sad state of affairs and until the federal reserve is abolished and oil is reformed from being an unregulated corporate pork barrel to a government income and/or financing machine nothing will be accomplished -- i believe that oil is a divine gift of the earth and should not be for the sole benefit of the few but should be used as a form of collateral for backing money and benefit everyone in the region it is tapped---has this idea ever been explored?

[turbonium]

oil is a divine gift of the earth and should not be for the sole benefit of the few but should be used as a form of collateral for backing money and benefit everyone in the region it is tapped---has this idea ever been explored?

Sad to say, Sun, but no - oil and every other 'precious' resource has always been controlled by those who have the most power and wealth. Any attempts to create viable alternatives to oil have been subverted and those who have presented them have been threatend, murdered or bribed into silence.

Even the pulp & paper industry, led by Randolph Hearst & his cronies, has quashed the cheap and effective alternative - hemp production, which any citizen could foster on their own property, was rendered a non-starter. Hemp was grown commercially (with increasing governmental interference) in the United States until the 1950s. It was doomed by the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937, which placed an extremely high tax on marijuana and made it effectively impossible to grow industrial hemp. While Congress expressly expected the continued production of industrial hemp, the Federal Bureau of Narcotics lumped industrial hemp with marijuana, as it's successor the US Drug Enforcement Administration, does to this day.

As for the Fed, Lincoln and Kennedy were the only two Presidents who tried to render the Fed useless by printing Congress-issued 'greenback' currency, and look where they ended up!

[Frosty]

I think you mean to say "Bin Laden is another Hitler" as Hitler came way before Bin Laden?

[Zackery00]

In agreement with Frosty....

[Hans Dolbrook]

hitler,stalin,tojo.mussolinni,napoleon,chairman mao,king abdullah,saddam,bin laden, get them all together and you have a room of mass murderers who just happen to be certifiable dictators.most of them had a seat reseved in hell for them at birth.

[bathory]

socialists you say?

[dmgspycat]

I think he means that Hitler was supported from the beginning by the American establishment...from eugenics all the way to the corporate labor camps. The same American forces after the war consolidated their power and created the CIA and have operated behind the scenes and are responsible for many assassinations and coups around the world...there is Arbenz in Guatemala, Allende in Chile...they created the right wing shah of Iran and the list goes on...Hitler was their boy...same with Ben Laden...he fought with the American CIA with the Mujahdeen against the Soviets...but more alarming was the fact that the Bush family has been business partners with the Ben Ladens from way back...heres where some of us disagree...Some say that at some point Ben Laden went rogue and became our enemy...others say that , no, Ben Laden works for the same type of forces that raised Hitler to prominence to carry out their agenda.

If history proves what I say about Americans like Dulles, Rockefeller, Bush, Harriman and Lovett is true and they committed treason and paid no penalty then why is it soooo hard for some of you to believe that Ben Laden is another one of their progeny? Carrying out a specific task so they can pass anti-democratic policies? Don't you think it odd the type of anti-democratic policies coming out of Washington these days yet we see further corporate de-regulation? Our government is now that whistleblowers who tell of corruption will be penalized...odd isn't it? What side are you on? Are you for a democracy or for a corporate super-state?

Edited May 1, 2005 by dmgspycat

[homerz]

Sunofone,

Have you checked this site out? www.sunstation/etemenanki

[Sunofone]

Sunofone,

Have you checked this site out? www.sunstation/etemenanki

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hey thanks for the link homerz --i posted their once but forgot to bookmark the site--i forgot about it until goro pulled his forum down--ive been hunting for that forum for a while now--i wish goro would open his forum though

[Sunofone]

here we go-- the bush administration is starting to show their "TRUE" colors

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OH Woman Now A Felon

& Gets 60 Days For

Anti-Bush Poster

By Greg Szymanski

6-3-6

A 51-year-old Ohio woman was sentenced Friday to 60 days in jail for putting up anti-Bush posters, as another political prisoner falls prey to the fascist mindset controlling America.

Since Carol Fisher's run-in with police on Jan.28, she steadfastly maintained her innocence, saying she was manhandled by police and then railroaded by a politically corrupted judiciary.

Her attorney, Terry Gilbert agreed with his client, adding after a recent pre-sentencing hearing to question Fisher's sanity:

"In more than 30 years of practicing law, I haven't seen anything remotely like this. This is gulag stuff. Is this the kind of country you want to live in when dissidents are determined to be crazy?"

Fisher faced a maximum 3-year prison term on a felonious assault conviction, but claims she was manhandled and assaulted by police who then lied about what happened. Gilbert said Fisher refused to accept a plea bargain, insisting she did nothing wrong and leading to what her attorney and many observers called a "politically motivated kangaroo court" filled with compromised witnesses and a prejudicial judge.

For rest of story and more informative articles, go to www.arcticbeacon.com

Greg Szymanski