Number of Beast Not 666 but 616

[merlinhoot]

National Geographic link

Oxyrhynchus, 100 miles (160 kilometers) southwest of modern-day Cairo, rose to prominence under Egypt's Greek and Roman rulers. The town's papyrus-rich garbage heaps were excavated in the late 1890s by two Oxford University fellows, B.P. Grenfell and A.S. Hunt. Researchers have been painstakingly piecing together the Oxyrhynchus papyri fragments ever since.

So far 65 volumes of transcripts and translations have been published by the London-based Egypt Exploration Society, which owns the collection.

The latest volume includes details of fragments showing third- and fourth-century versions of the Book of Revelations. Intriguingly, the number assigned to "the Beast" of Revelations isn't the usual 666, but 616.

Professor David Parker, Professor of New Testament Textual Criticism and Paleography at the University of Birmingham, thinks that 616, although less memorable than 666, is the original. He said: "This is an example of gematria, where numbers are based on the numerical values of letters in people's names. Early Christians would use numbers to hide the identity of people who they were attacking: 616 refers to the Emperor Caligula."

Edited May 17, 2005 by merlinhoot

[marduk]

National Geographic link

Oxyrhynchus, 100 miles (160 kilometers) southwest of modern-day Cairo, rose to prominence under Egypt's Greek and Roman rulers. The town's papyrus-rich garbage heaps were excavated in the late 1890s by two Oxford University fellows, B.P. Grenfell and A.S. Hunt. Researchers have been painstakingly piecing together the Oxyrhynchus papyri fragments ever since.

So far 65 volumes of transcripts and translations have been published by the London-based Egypt Exploration Society, which owns the collection.

The latest volume includes details of fragments showing third- and fourth-century versions of the Book of Revelations. Intriguingly, the number assigned to "the Beast" of Revelations isn't the usual 666, but 616. 

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the most interesting thing about that twon that i ever heard was that it was where pharoah sent convicted criminals to live.

it started as a leper colony and convicted criminals in egypt had their noses sliced off

to indicate their criminal intent to others.

leperousy is also a disease that takes your nose in its early stages

you were maybe wondering why its called Oxyrhynchus in the first place

rhynchus iirc correctly is greek for nose

[Gabriel]

so that means his noes is growing or....

[marduk]

you think noses grow when theyre cut off ?

that wouldn't be much of a punishment would it

if you decide to try it yourself to satisfy youre curiosity let me know how you get on

but make sure you e mail me the results because i probably wont be able to understand you on the telephone

hehe

[Tricia-Ann]

That's not the first time I've come across that reference to 616-I'm trying to locate the other info...

[marduk]

That's not the first time I've come across that reference to 616-I'm trying to locate the other info...

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here ya go tricia

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=616...le+Search&meta=

hehehe

[JohnnyBoyC]

this is new i always thought it was 666

[dmgspycat]

MDCCLXXVI is 1776 in Roman Numerals

The Babelonian numbering system is base 60

Mystery Babylon is the Biblical name for the Devil

The triangle is the mathematical representation of Diabalon

By applying the Delta to MDCCLXXVI gives us the numerical arrangement of 666

I found this on a site that is obviously anti-masonic. I dont believe in Revelations and I dont give a hoot about Masons either . I just wanted to pass this on.

[AnnafridAnna]

HELLO

I JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT I HAVE STUDIED THE BIBLE FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS NOW AND MOST PEOPLE AND CHRISTIANS DO HAVE MANY VERSIONS

OF REVELATION AND DANIEL IN THE BIBLE..

FROM MY EXPERIENCE, IT WAS GOD WHO SPOKE TO MY HEART, ONE DAY AND THIS IS WHEN I WAS READY TO KNOW THE TRUTH, THAT THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST IS 666 AND IT IS THE NAME THAT COMES FROM ANCIENT BABYLON.

[turbonium]

What about 668 !! The NEIGHBOR of the beast!!

[marduk]

National Geographic link

Oxyrhynchus, 100 miles (160 kilometers) southwest of modern-day Cairo, rose to prominence under Egypt's Greek and Roman rulers. The town's papyrus-rich garbage heaps were excavated in the late 1890s by two Oxford University fellows, B.P. Grenfell and A.S. Hunt. Researchers have been painstakingly piecing together the Oxyrhynchus papyri fragments ever since.

So far 65 volumes of transcripts and translations have been published by the London-based Egypt Exploration Society, which owns the collection.

The latest volume includes details of fragments showing third- and fourth-century versions of the Book of Revelations. Intriguingly, the number assigned to "the Beast" of Revelations isn't the usual 666, but 616. 

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From a fragment uncovered at oxyrhynchus yesterday

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apparently its the long undiscovered first page of the Bible

[Jodie.Lynne]

^

Fantastically funny.

[sharkster]

hmmm....

takes 10 years to study the buy-bull?

only took me about 6 months of ready the buy-bull and studying it's history to realize that it's just what it claims to be... Buy Bull.

[The Roswell Man]

interesting point there

[19Merlin69]

HELLO

I JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT I HAVE STUDIED THE BIBLE FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS NOW AND MOST PEOPLE AND CHRISTIANS DO HAVE MANY VERSIONS

OF REVELATION AND DANIEL IN THE BIBLE..

  FROM MY EXPERIENCE,  IT WAS GOD WHO SPOKE TO MY HEART,  ONE DAY AND THIS IS WHEN I WAS READY TO KNOW THE TRUTH,  THAT THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST IS 666 AND IT IS THE NAME THAT COMES FROM ANCIENT BABYLON.

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Then you are in for a really boring death...

[Amalgamut]

Its not a number, its a mark. "6" is the number of evil. "666" or "616"

just signifies that its an evil mark. If "6" means evil, then "666" or "616" means "greatly evil."

[Amalgamut]

hmmm....

takes 10 years to study the buy-bull? 

only took me about 6 months of ready the buy-bull and studying it's history to realize that it's just what it claims to be... Buy Bull.

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6 months eh? thats probably why you think its bull. Did you speed read? and speed study?

[19Merlin69]

Oh please don't tell me that reading the Bible has lead you to any sort of divine revelation.

There is no manner of logic that would allow someone to take that book for anything more than a work of fiction had they not been influenced by someone prior/during/after opening the cover.

That fact that it has been so bastardized throughout the ages cannot be overlooked. There is nothing infallible about it, as the "Infallible Nature of God's word" portion was added in the 12th century by monks trying to cover up for the fact that they had been making significant changes to the story for centuries. Once the Catlick Church finally decided to stop altering it, the line was added to give the book credibility.

Most churches knew of the WHOPPING VARIATIONS at that time - so they actually welcomed the final revisions.

Believe it or not, the truth IS out there, and it isn't in the bible. As we can see from the papyrus & scolls that have been discovered, religion is what you make of it - not what it is on its own.

I'm a firm believer in the phrase:

Don't be so quick to judge, and don't be fooled so easily... There's a thin line between philosophy and physics.

[Amalgamut]

Believe it or not, the truth IS out there, and it isn't in the bible. 

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Ok, tell me where it is becaue I'm dying to know.

Tell me what the "truth" is.

[Me_Again]

In numerology terms the number 6 is the number of love and the number 666 reduced becomes the number 18, 1+8=9...9 is the number of man

To quote Jimi Hendrix "If 6 turned out to be 9"..."if the mountains fell in the sea, let it be it ain't me"...999 reduced becomes 9

[19Merlin69]

Believe it or not, the truth IS out there, and it isn't in the bible. 

617633[/snapback]

Ok, tell me where it is becaue I'm dying to know.

Tell me what the "truth" is.

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Which one do you want? The truth about the bible, the truth about the Earth, the truth about evolution? You tell me... How do you like your truth served?

[convert-proof]

Believe it or not, the truth IS out there, and it isn't in the bible. 

617633[/snapback]

Ok, tell me where it is becaue I'm dying to know.

Tell me what the "truth" is.

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Which one do you want? The truth about the bible, the truth about the Earth, the truth about evolution? You tell me... How do you like your truth served?

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all please

[19Merlin69]

Very well then - Let's begin in the A.M. for me - this is a long discussion.

[ROGER]

Rumor has it the last MAN who had all the answers was killed about 2000 years ago. Apparently know one liked a know it all even then!

[LucidElement]

i always thought it was 666 as did i think everyone else in the world, if it was 616 wouldnt we have figured it out a long time ago?