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Italy rules out intentional U.S. killing of agent


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ROME (Reuters) - Italy said on Monday the fatal shooting of an Italian agent in Iraq was not intentional but was caused by inexperienced and nervous U.S. soldiers manning a poorly organized checkpoint.

In its own report on the shooting in March, Italy also took issue with a U.S. report released on Saturday, notably that there was poor communication between the Italians and the U.S. forces in the hours before the March shooting.

Italy has refused to accept the U.S. findings that cleared American troops of wrongdoing in the death of Nicola Calipari, gunned down in a car at a checkpoint in Baghdad on March 4 as he was escorting an Italian hostage to freedom.

"It is likely that tension....inexperience and stress led some of the U.S. troops to react instinctively and with little control," the Italian report said.

The dispute has strained ties between the allies in Iraq although officials on both sides have insisted that relations will remain friendly.

The U.S. report put much of the blame on Italy for the friendly fire incident, saying Italian agents in Baghdad failed to communicate to U.S. officials their plans to take freed hostage Giuliana Sgrena to the Baghdad airport.

Rome denied that, saying U.S. authorities were "indisputably" aware of the presence of Calipari and a second Italian agent in Baghdad even if "it is likely that they were not aware of the details of their mission."

Rome said there was no warning signs that a military road block was ahead on the road to Baghdad airport, but it said there was no reason to suppose the car taking Calipari and the hostage to freedom had been deliberately targeted.

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They find out they are wrong, but yet have the balls to diss us.

nervous U.S. soldiers manning a poorly organized checkpoint.

Your in a warzone, a lot of people want to kill YOU and you can't be nervous?

"It is likely that tension....inexperience and stress led some of the U.S. troops to react instinctively and with little control," the Italian report said.

Hmmm... suicide bombers all over and its shoot at threat or die in a million pieces BUT yet they tell us not to shoot. Seems to me a bunch of guys standing around a table with their thumb up their butt. yes.gif

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Italy shouldn t have helped America in the first place.No war= no hostages=no attempts to free hostages only to be gunned down by some inexperienced, nervous cowboys.

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Your right. It should be every country for itself. The US should cancel all its aid to every country in the world and focus all we have on ourselves. F' these ungratefu countries who want things from the US and then b**** about helping. Forget it. Every country for themself!

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Your right. It should be every country for itself. The US should cancel all its aid to every country in the world and focus all we have on ourselves. F' these ungratefu countries who want things from the US and then b**** about helping. Forget it. Every country for themself!

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My point.

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But i d still like to know:

What does Italy want from USA?

And what do the USA need Italy for?

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Mutual political support.

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The answer to wich question?

Both?

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Maybe this is clearer picture:

The U.S. – Italy bilateral relationship is strong and growing, with the two countries cooperating closely on major economic issues. Italy is one of the United States’ and New Jersey’s most important trading partners. In 2003, the U.S. was the fourth largest foreign supplier in the Italian market, and the largest supplier outside the European Union. In 2003, the State’s exports to Italy were valued at approximately $470 Million, thus placing Italy, from an economic standpoint, well within the top ten countries conducting business with New Jersey. Both New Jersey and Italy enjoy a strong and diversified manufacturing sector and are equally strong agricultural producers.

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http://www.prweb.com/releases/2005/5/prweb235289.htm

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Obviously Both. US companies are supplying the Italians with high quality goods and services at cheap affordable prices. Italy taxes those goods and services and makes dough as well.

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Your right. It should be every country for itself. The US should cancel all its aid to every country in the world and focus all we have on ourselves. F' these ungratefu countries who want things from the US and then b**** about helping. Forget it. Every country for themself!

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I tend to agree with this...when we want to do something we feel is for our protection, a lot of the world goes out of the way to hinder us...but we're expected to be the first to help out in times of crisis. We're told we shouldn't "police the world," but the next second a tragedy strikes, we're told we should be doing more to help whatever country needs it. Like with the tsunami...I remember reading about how people said we promised to give too little, too late, in spite of our generosity...money that could be spent helping OUR citizens but is instead going to help people half the world away.

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Yep 3000 + of our citizens die. And we need help and everyone complains. They have an emergency and need help and we are right there.. Whats wrong with the picture?

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Who does benefit from Italy taking part in the iraq war?Italy?USA?Both?

Umm - ask the Italians why they went not me. Im from California. They must have a reason. Personally - we could have done the same thing without them. If they dont want to stand by us, thats fine. Then dont expect out support like a selfish child.

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I don t know wether they expect your support or not.The point is they went.And how did you thank them?You shot their agent(an accident of course(and i m not being sarcastic(this time ))) and blamed them .

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Umm they were running a checkpoint they were supposed to stop at. Why didnt they stop. They have themselves to blame!

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Rome said there was no warning signs that a military road block was ahead on the road to Baghdad airport, but it said there was no reason to suppose the car taking Calipari and the hostage to freedom had been deliberately targeted.

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There was no reason to believe the vehicle was intentially targeted. I think that says it all. Stoping like all the other cars on the road to Bagdad airport would have been a good idea instead of blowing by at 50 MPH..

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When in a warzone, be very careful.

The investigating officer "concluded that the vehicle approaching the checkpoint failed to reduce speed until fired upon," said a statement accompanying a report released Saturday. "The soldiers manning the checkpoint acted in accordance with the rules of engagement."

But the report said military personnel at the scene estimated the vehicle was traveling in excess of 50 mph and said it did not slow even after warning shots were fired.

In addition, the report said, no one at the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad or in the multinational forces leadership knew, until after the shooting, about the operation to recover Sgrena and get her out of the country.
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Im not afraid to show my face around here! Ok good research Kratos...I am glad to see you want to get to the bottom of this too...the thing now is to see what her response is before a decision is weighed...would that not be fair? She did have a couple of good points made in her letter. So what is the latest with her?

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Im not afraid to show my face around here! Ok good research Kratos...I am glad to see you want to get to the bottom of this too...the thing now is to see what her response is before a decision is weighed...would that not be fair? She did have a couple of good points made in her letter. So what is the latest with her?

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I can't find anything new on her for statements. No doubt, she is writing it all down so when she says her little speech it will be impressive in words. But, hey isn't the media always looking for ratings?

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Perhaps the US should pull some if not all of it's funding for other nations. It seems unappriciated anyway. Not to mention that the whole world is p***ed off at us right now so what difference would it make if their funding is denied?

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Perhaps the US should pull some if not all of it's funding for other nations. It seems unappriciated anyway. Not to mention that the whole world is p***ed off at us right now so what difference would it make if their funding is denied?

It would definetely make a difference.I d like to see the outcome of such an action though.

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