JennRose Posted May 18, 2005 #1 Share Posted May 18, 2005 (edited) For anyone who is fan of the X-men comics, as well as the surprisingly awesome movies, we have a few casting details on the third film coming out. New mutants that are arriving for this one include Beast, Gambit, Angel, Juggernaut and a larger role for Shadowcat. The director is Matthew Vaughn, whose movie 'Layer Cake' was just recenlty given wide-release (it's a great Brit-gangsta flick, BTW). Now, who is to be playing these characters? Take a peek: Juggernaut: 'Lock Stock' and 'Snatch' veteran Vinnie Jones Kitty Pryde: that whiny blonde chick from Lost Gambit and Angel are still in talks. But the big kicker, Beast: Kelsey Grammer. TV's Frasier as a blue, furry aerobatic genius mutant? WTF? Well, he has a great voice and his TV brother sounded good as Abe Sapien.... SOURCE http://chud.com/news/3015 Edited May 19, 2005 by JennRose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnSide Posted May 18, 2005 #2 Share Posted May 18, 2005 (edited) Vinnie Jones is an EXCELLENT choice for Juggernaut!! And Kelsey Grammer? Well, maybe they're animating beast, and he'll just be doing the voice? Also, it's awesome they're finally bringing Gambit into the scene. Edited May 18, 2005 by BurnSide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Pancake Posted May 18, 2005 #3 Share Posted May 18, 2005 I wonder if their going to keep the story line of the comics because Gambit was a thief and one of magneto's servents befor he joined the X-men, I loved the fight he had with wolverine a classic little battle in the comics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnSide Posted May 18, 2005 #4 Share Posted May 18, 2005 That'll probably be what happens. We all know that the storyline of the 3rd movie will be about Dark Pheonix though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Pancake Posted May 18, 2005 #5 Share Posted May 18, 2005 Oh yeah....... I forgot about Jean Grey, that changes the whole story then! Hope it's good wonder if there is a leak about the script yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennRose Posted May 19, 2005 Author #6 Share Posted May 19, 2005 Pardon me while I put on my giant geek hat...Ahem... Ok. I have heard they have cast a young Prof. Xavier. In that case, I am sure there will be quite a back story on both he and Juggarnaut. They are brothers, I'm sure you all remember. (As an aside, Juggarnaut wasn't BORN a mutant; he has a magic stone in his helmet that gives him his powers. But I doubt they will cover all of that.) It sounds like there will be all kinds of storylines running around. And pulling Dark Phoenix in...that's the whole alternate universe part of the X-men series. I wouldn't want to try and tie all that in together. One thing I have wondered about: Gambit's age. There was such a flirtatious/sexual subplot going on with Rogue and Gambit in the series, I wonder if he will show up as a teenager, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnSide Posted May 19, 2005 #7 Share Posted May 19, 2005 That's a good point. I'm sure that's what they will probably do. Regarding Juggernauts story, look at Sabretooth in the first movie. He's a major main character and very important to Wolverines history, and they didn't even give him a story at all! The same goes for Lady Deathstrike in the second movie. Again, very important to Logans history, but they mentioned nothing and she was given a lethal injection. I'm sure it'll be the same with Juggernaut, he'll just be a random Magneto henchman, although the fact that they have cast a young Xavier is intreging. And as for Pheonix, well we know it'll be making an appearance because look what happened to jean Grey. Not only was their fire in her eyes and on her hands just before she died, but at the end of the movie a giant bird is seen silluetted under the water where Jean Grey died. The pheonix! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennRose Posted May 19, 2005 Author #8 Share Posted May 19, 2005 (edited) And as for Pheonix, well we know it'll be making an appearance because look what happened to jean Grey. Not only was their fire in her eyes and on her hands just before she died, but at the end of the movie a giant bird is seen silluetted under the water where Jean Grey died. The pheonix! 628976[/snapback] Definitely. And Famke Jenson (?) is reported definitely back in this one. No where to go with it but as the Phoenix. Oh, and excellent points on Sabretooth and Lady Deathstrike. Supposedly there will be a spin-off movie for Wolverine, so perhaps some of the Sabertooth backstory will be addressed. In the first film they definitely acknowledged they had a past. But I doubt they will go all out; the movies don't seem to be dark enough to show a villain raping and killing a character's wife. Edited May 19, 2005 by JennRose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnSide Posted May 19, 2005 #9 Share Posted May 19, 2005 Good point. And yeah they did hint, but that was it. I was quite dissapointed. I had no idea there would be a Wolverine spinoff, or rumoured to be one. That would be pretty cool, they'd be able to give the character the attention he deserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janiel Posted May 19, 2005 #10 Share Posted May 19, 2005 X3 Cast list: James Marsden - Cyclops Famke Janssen - Phoenix/Jean Grey Hugh Jackman - Wolverine Rebecca Romijn-Stamos - Mystique Alan Cumming - Nightcrawler Anna Paquin - Rogue Patrick Stewart - Professor Charles Xavier Ian McKellen - Magneto Taylor Cole - Scarlet Witch Kristanna Loken - Dazzler Hannah Groves - Rita Lindsay Lohan - Jubilee Vinnie Jones - Juggernaut Shawn Ashmore - Iceman Aaron Stanford - Pyro Daniel Cudmore - Colossus Richard Hoggard - Avalanche Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnSide Posted May 19, 2005 #11 Share Posted May 19, 2005 Lindsay Lohan as Jubilee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janiel Posted May 19, 2005 #12 Share Posted May 19, 2005 Lindsay Lohan as Jubilee? 629024[/snapback] Yeah... (As an aside, Juggarnaut wasn't BORN a mutant; he has a magic stone in his helmet that gives him his powers. 628957[/snapback] I was reading some X-men comics recently, and the whole suit is what powers him. But the stone itself isn't in his helmet, he takes it off a lot in the comic I was reading. I think it's in his chest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennRose Posted May 19, 2005 Author #13 Share Posted May 19, 2005 I was reading some X-men comics recently, and the whole suit is what powers him. But the stone itself isn't in his helmet, he takes it off a lot in the comic I was reading. I think it's in his chest. 629027[/snapback] You may be right about Juggarnaut's suit, Janiel (in fact, I really think you are), but I hate to break it to your source on that talk back: L Lohan is NOT in this movie, nor is she in talks for it. Thank God. And I don't think Avalanche, Dazzler or the Scarlett Wtich will even be in the film. They can't introduce too many new characters...it would get swamped. It would be nice, though. I always thought the Scarlett Witch was really cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking Posted May 19, 2005 #14 Share Posted May 19, 2005 wasnt the gem that powerd juggernaut hidden somewhere in the mountains? also, who raped who now? i never heard of this in the series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennRose Posted May 19, 2005 Author #15 Share Posted May 19, 2005 also, who raped who now? i never heard of this in the series 629087[/snapback] Wolverine first encountered Sabretooth after Sabertooth has just raped and murdered Wolverine's wife (or maybe just girlfriend) Silver Fox. That's why they has such an angry, violent past. I actualy think this was in a seperate Wolverine series, that only dealt with his back story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCrow Posted May 19, 2005 #16 Share Posted May 19, 2005 (edited) New cast: Vinne Jones as Juggernaut Some kid, possibly as a young Prof X or maybe Gambit Kelsey Grammer as Beast They are still in talks for someone to play Angel And as for as I know that chick from Lost is the frontrunner for Kitty Pryde but they are still in talks about that part too. Avi Arad (top Marvel movie Exec dude) said that all the regulars are coming back, which should mean more Collossus, Yay! Hopefully he will have a big ass fight with Juggenaut, that would rule! Hopefully Vaughn will do what Singer hadn't done, and that will be a huge group fight... I want to see Collossus and Wolverine's fast ball special... Another new character rumoured to be in X3 was Emma Frost but nothing is happening with that and also Gambit might not happen. There hasn't been any casting news for a while so there's a rumour floating around that they have dropped him from it. Around the time Mathew Vaughn first came on to the project there was some news that he had written a special intro for Gambit hismelf, which given the fact that Gambit is a theif and Vaughn specialises in gangster films, it's a safe bet it would have been cool. Two new things are rumoured to be in X3... The Danger Room and Sentinels. Both were gonna be in X2 but had to be dropped due to budget. Singer reportedly had a whole sequence planned to start the movie off involving Wolverine in the Danger Room. And there are some sketches floating around of production designs for the Sentinels, so I'll try find them and post them. They weren't gonna be as tall as they are in the comics or pink and purple. They were gonna be silver and were about 15 ft high. All the X-Men fighting the sentinels would be a great sight to see on film. Vinne Jones as Juggernaut is ok with me. I think they've got the guys from Hellboy to do the Juggernaut costume, which involve a 4 stone (british measurment of weight) muscle suit and then there will probably be some CGI on him too like Mr Hyde in LXG. I dunno if they will go the magical route because the movies have been based more in science and reality so far. They might alter his character so that he is a mutant instead of a guy with a magic gem. Kelsey Grammer as Beast... hmm... I know he could dothe character ok and the voice, oh wow, he has a great voice for Beast but he is 50 and not the type of actor you'd think of for a role such as this. Are they gonna put him in a suit and have him swing around on wires and/or do his stuff with CGI or what... If they do a suit though, which I think they will, it will need to be good so that it doesn't look like a blue ape. If it's crap the audience will just laugh. There hasn't been an official announcement that the story will revolve around the Dark Phoenix Saga and at one point there were rumours that the Phoenix wouldn't feature at all... But with Famke, reportedly back and James Marsden said in an interview something about his character and Jene coming back so it's a safe bet it will be, even if it's just setting it up for X4. James even said he would do the role of Cyclops for free! Edited May 19, 2005 by TheCrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCrow Posted May 19, 2005 #17 Share Posted May 19, 2005 X2 Sentinel production artwork: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking Posted May 19, 2005 #18 Share Posted May 19, 2005 also, who raped who now? i never heard of this in the series 629087[/snapback] Wolverine first encountered Sabretooth after Sabertooth has just raped and murdered Wolverine's wife (or maybe just girlfriend) Silver Fox. That's why they has such an angry, violent past. I actualy think this was in a seperate Wolverine series, that only dealt with his back story. 629509[/snapback] have you ever read "Origin" by any chance? its the comic basically narating wolverines life from a small boy, wolverine meets sabertooth as a child, wolverine was adopted by a rich family, the rich family had a grounds keeper who happened to be sabertooths father, sabertoooth, who was called "dog" by his father at the time, resented wolverine because wolverine lived a rich nice life while his father worked very hard and long for wolverines adopted father just to make ends meat, sabertooth began his grudge with wolverine then, which was why i was confused about the raping scene, sabertooth raping silverfox must have been a direct result of sabertooth still holding the grudge on wolverine, not the reason for the grudge i admit however, im not very knowledgable of the x-men series, so i could be completely misinterpreting Origin, but that was my take on it....if you havent read it, you should really pick it up..its great installment ---- and please dont let those be sentinals....they are so..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First of Two Posted May 19, 2005 #19 Share Posted May 19, 2005 Lindsay Lohan as Jubilee? That's almost as horrible as the rumor I heard that Keanu "dead wood" Reeves was going to be casted as Gambit. The reason it's not AS horrible is that Jubilee always struck me as a self-absorbed twit, a role Lohan's been playing in real life for a while now, so she won't have to act. Kelsey Grammer as beast and Vinnie Jones as Juggernaut are both brilliant, though. I guess that, with the exception of Lohan, X-Men decided to be the comic movie series that doesn't cast horrid actors who can't act but can sell out with the best of them like Spider-Man. Toby "one voice, one emotion 24/7" McGuire AND Kristen "Mary Jane Watson or Lizzie McGuire?" Dunst on the same screen?????? They could have tried a lot harder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennRose Posted May 20, 2005 Author #20 Share Posted May 20, 2005 Lindsay Lohan as Jubilee? That's almost as horrible as the rumor I heard that Keanu "dead wood" Reeves was going to be casted as Gambit. The reason it's not AS horrible is that Jubilee always struck me as a self-absorbed twit, a role Lohan's been playing in real life for a while now, so she won't have to act. 630478[/snapback] Seriously, I wouldn't worry about that. The source on that was just on a talkback and didn't list their name, even. No other magazine or film site have breathed a word. So, I would bet ooodles of cash that Lindsey won't be anywhere near this pic. For one very main reason: Jubilee is CHINESE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First of Two Posted May 20, 2005 #21 Share Posted May 20, 2005 Jubilee is CHINESE!!! Won't stop them. Hollywood casts the wrong ethnicity/nationality all the time in the name of who will draw names from starpower and loan themselves into the quagmire of product placement. There's also the "A-list or bust" attitude they have. I think Wizard said it best: "A-list actors might attract more people who weren't prior fans of the series, but in the end, most of them are a very poor casting. If they can do it, let them- I can't imagine anyone outdoing Jack Nicholson as the Joker- ever. But there's a reason Chris Reeve beat John Travolta for Superman- Travolta was the wrong kind of actor. However, the all-star train that began with 1989's Batman has marked a steady downfall. Keaton was a decent Batman, but people said there could have been better, although Nicholson was hailed as a brilliant Joker. The train fell further with Pam Anderson as Barb Wire, Jim Carrey as the Riddler, Toby McGuire as Spider-Man, Eric Bana as the Hulk, Halle Berry as Storm, every last person on Batman and Robin, Angelina Jolie as Lara Croft, Bennifer II as Daredevil/Elektra and (according to rumor), Nicholas Cage as the next Superman. The A-list needs to learn that they can't have it their way every time, and being told they're not suited for some roles is a good start. Nicholas Cage will more than likely humiliate himself as Superman, The possibility of Jennifer Lopez as Wonder Woman has inspired massive dry heaving, and no one in their right mind thinks Keanu Reeves is Constantine. Comics might be considered for children or geeks, but people still love Batman, Superman, The Fantastic 4, and Spider-Man. They're international icons. SHOW THEM SOME RESPECT!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking Posted May 20, 2005 #22 Share Posted May 20, 2005 whoa hold up there, jim carey was an awesome riddler, toby mcguireas spider man as well,and who else could have been laura croft? those were all Excellent choices...i actually think ben afleck would make a good gambit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnSide Posted May 20, 2005 #23 Share Posted May 20, 2005 Ben Afleck already made a terrible DareDevil, you want him to ruin Gambit too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First of Two Posted May 20, 2005 #24 Share Posted May 20, 2005 Ben Afleck already made a terrible DareDevil, you want him to ruin Gambit too? Amen. Besides, they obviously missed the point- it's not that they're good or bad. McGuire was a decent Spider-Man, but a lot of people were saying they could have done better. Same goes for Dunst as Mary Jane- a lot of people thought she lacked the flair. Not bad- miscasted. However, Jim Carrey is another story- he was a horrible riddler- it felt like he was trying too hard to be another Joker. As a Batman fanatic, I was offended by his performance- ol' E. Nigma was supposed to be so disturbingly calm and quiet that Batman lost nerve against it at times. This is part of how the Riddler is one of the few Batman villains that actually wins from time to time against Batman in the comics, as well as being the Batman Villain who saw the inside of rehab the least. He wasn't supposed to be a blabbering one-liner machine with an annoying wannabe joker laugh every other minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennRose Posted May 20, 2005 Author #25 Share Posted May 20, 2005 Nicholas Cage will more than likely humiliate himself as Superman, The possibility of Jennifer Lopez as Wonder Woman has inspired massive dry heaving, 630714[/snapback] This must be an old article from Wizard; they've had a Superman cast for several months now. Can't remember the kid's name...but he is relatively unknown. I do hate the idea of Kate Bosworth as single mom Lois, though. And I'm sure they will ruin Wonder Woman with some WB skin & bones star like Charisma Carpenter, not ruin it with La Lopez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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