warden Posted May 23, 2005 #26 Share Posted May 23, 2005 I dont want this thread to start changing directions,ie the imigration issue, But if you want the true figures check out Mr greenspans figures,He is from Migratian watch,an independant company so you true figures , ones not massaged by any party to suit their policys 975.000 have came to this country since 1997.......1.000.000 by the end of this year since the start of 2005 we have seen the biggest increase from Eastern European countries 400%bigger than the gov expected,and people say scare tactics,i think these figures ary scary enouth without some politition spouting about it I am all for people with skills comming to this country to work and contrabute to the economy.Im all for people comming hear who are being persicuted back in their own country but the way it is set up and has been for years is an open door policy and is failing,i dont care what party sorts it out as long as it gets done A question for you all Blair is going to get 3 million of benefits and into work,where are the 3 million jobs?the imigrants have them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachelkleypassparrow Posted May 23, 2005 #27 Share Posted May 23, 2005 I believe Britain should keep the pound; because I feel the Euro is too unstable. I have nothing against immigrants as my family is descended from a long line of immigrants. I just don't like the under-handedness of the illegal immigrants. Why can't they go through the process like the legal immigrants? Illegal immigrants strain the economy not the legal ones. The legal immigrants contribute and not drain society and abide by our laws. However, Britain isn't a large country like America and has to regulate the number of people coming in as it is like pouring a gallon into a pint. I have a friend from the Phillipines and she is a legal immigrant and I enjoy learning about where she is from; but even she isn't happy with illegal immigrants, because as she works, she feels that she has to pay for them, which isn't fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warden Posted May 23, 2005 #28 Share Posted May 23, 2005 I believe Britain should keep the pound; because I feel the Euro is too unstable. I have nothing against immigrants as my family is descended from a long line of immigrants. I just don't like the under-handedness of the illegal immigrants. Why can't they go through the process like the legal immigrants? Illegal immigrants strain the economy not the legal ones. The legal immigrants contribute and not drain society and abide by our laws. However, Britain isn't a large country like America and has to regulate the number of people coming in as it is like pouring a gallon into a pint. I have a friend from the Phillipines and she is a legal immigrant and I enjoy learning about where she is from; but even she isn't happy with illegal immigrants, because as she works, she feels that she has to pay for them, which isn't fair. 635463[/snapback] Very well spoken words rachel*&%$^&*&%$%$%&*&% I have worked with people from all over the world and it is great hearing stories about their culture,it opens your eyes when hearing it from the horse mouth `so to speak` Many of them have told me that this countries imigration control is a joke ,and they love the way our Gov bends over backwords for them,they also say when they start a new job the rest of the employe`s are told to bend over backwords for them and to watch ever word they say,just incase it upsets them do our bosses and Gov think we are a bunch of heartless racists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ed Posted May 23, 2005 #29 Share Posted May 23, 2005 (edited) Exactly Sera, it is at boiling point because people have been led to believe so... You are right about the Tory's, they don't think and will probably elect David Davis as their leader... Edited May 23, 2005 by Mr Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warden Posted May 23, 2005 #30 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Exactly Sera, it is at boiling point because people have been led to believe so... You are right about the Tory's, they don't think and will probably elect David Davis as their leader... 635469[/snapback] By who? all parties are as guilty of the same offence Read Mr Greenspans paper and then you will get the true extent of imigration....legal and illegal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphina Posted May 23, 2005 #31 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Exactly Sera, it is at boiling point because people have been led to believe so... It has nothing to do with what we've been led to believe....it's because people like Abu Hamza have been protected by our government. It's the fact that people can chant "UK, watch your back. The Taliban is coming back!" and again are still in this country....the political correctness allows them to say or do whatever they please, and we of course can't sneeze in the wrong direction of we're branded as prejudiced. These people are security risks to this country, but they're allowed to stay because they happen to be ethnic minorities...and, of course, we can't be offending them. It's the labour government that has allowed the situation to get out of hand, and the public opinion of immigrants to sour...it has nothing to do with Tory propoganda. In fact, given the new unwritten laws of political correctness, no MP would be commiting suicide if he expressed the opinions that are currently rife among the general population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ed Posted May 23, 2005 #32 Share Posted May 23, 2005 The situation is not critical, in reality it is not at boiling point. You only have to look at the Netherlands to see what a real out of control asylum situation is like. Political correctness is causing us a lot of trouble. Hamza goes beyond the right of free speech, he seems to incite racial hatred, however you have to recognise that you cannot remove someone from this democratic country for voicing their views. I dislike abu hamza strongly, but I do not know enough about the situation concerning him to come to a clear opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphina Posted May 23, 2005 #33 Share Posted May 23, 2005 however you have to recognise that you cannot remove someone from this democratic country for voicing their views. For inciting violence and racial hatred? Yes, yes you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warden Posted May 23, 2005 #34 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Well Ser i lost a job a few years ago on the same issues,i dont give a dam for PC it makes me sick to my back teeth when you hear people telling you (oh you cant say that )why?i will say what i want as long as i know i am not doing it in hatred and in a way that I know is right Dont be brain washed into speaking and thinking in a manner the Gov want you to ,speak out and speak up in what you believe in I spoke up on the amount of imigrants being pumped into our nursing home,we had 18 vacancies and plenty of young and old scotish people comming for interviews with the right experience for the job,not one got a job,they were all given to Romanians with no experience I was later told by my boss that they were told they had to have a certain percentage of foreigners(imigrants)in the work force,i asked why not even one Scotish person that came for an interview got took,she said she had to give them interviews even though she knew that none were going to get picket,so to look like it was not going to look byist I opened my mouth and was shown the door,i went to lawyers for an unfair dismissle case and not one would touch me with a barge poll (i wonder why) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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