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There are a serious number of visitors to this forum lately that have been skipping their medication.

Uh uh - they just changed our dosages. :)

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Still, it just doesn't add up. I highly doubt in this paranoid age that any military force on Earth would be so careless as to even allow the information to leak out that aliens were hanging out at the Roulette Wheel at the Luxor. It just...doesn't...add...up.

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Uh, WTF? What 'alien source'?

Pictures, where are the pictures of such 'aliens' . If they can 'get into a casino' surely someone must be seeing them around. Then again, maybe these 'aliens' are just tall people with blue eyes. :blink:

Crap! I'm an alien!

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No way I could read all the posts too this thread, and I am new here, but you guys are kidding right? You don't really believe this......do you?

Alien Federation................. after Mr. Hall you may want to read some of the works by G. Roddenberry.

Whoa.

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I wonder if this dude really read the book, or books by now. The tall whites are very different from the greys. All you really need to do is look at the traid agreements the humans have with the greys and the traid agreements we have with the tall whites.

The biggest thing you need to look at is the temperment and mind set of the tall whites. The tall whites are actually trustworthy to an unpresidented extreme. Their word is their bond NO MATTER WHAT. An agreement to the tall whites means EVERYTHING. They beleive in the tit for tat system also to an extreme that humans as a whole can undestand. They are protective of themselves. NO ONE may EVER toutch them. They take that as an assault and will prespond violently. This is undestood by all the humans that they associate with. Voilate this and pay the consequences. They are not inherantly violent at all. What this person has not told us is the people that the tall whites have attacked or killed have tried to kidnap their children, hurt the women, and be in general not nice to the tall whites. That is why some have been attacked and or killed. In the case of Charles James Hall it was nothing more than an unfortunate misunderstanding and Charles was hurt. They are useing a piece of a mountain as a repair and refueling hangar. They land every full moon and leave every dark moon. In traid they gave us nuklear propulsion. The military keeps asking them for weapons technology but is denied every time. If I remember correctly we have fiber optics and we have them to thank for it. Their anti-grav beyond light speed propulsion is thousands of miles of fiber optics between the inner and outher hull. The tall whites are on a traid route. The star system Sol (our solar system) was found to be a great stopping point for these people. That is all they are here for..... A pit stop between destinations allong a traid route.

The greys are a bit more sinister......

The agreement we have with the greys is quite simple. Their hard ware for our software. Their hardware was technology. Our software is humans and cattle to be abducted and studied. The greys are selfish, dishonest, dishonorable, and manipulative. The greys are supposed to be keeping very specific track of ever single abduction and interaction with civilians and cattle. They are not keeping that part of the bargain. Also, the greys are only supposed to be takeing a very small handfull of people. The cases number in the multi thousands if not tens of thousands. If you keep pokeing around you will find notonly cattle mutilations but human mutilations as well. I know of 2 such cases and have seen forensic photos of one of the people. Believe me its NOT pretty! Both people were mutilated to death. This means they were alive durring the proceedures and felt all the pain of being ripped apart and tourtured. If you watch the documentary "Fast Walkers" you will find out that there are over 60 species of alien races. About 10 of witch is greys, reptiles, and their subraces and hybrids. If you do more research you will find that all the races other than the greys and reptile races are very peacefull and want the beings of Earth to know that they that are out there. Also the other races are waring with the grey and reptilian races. Eventually you might find out about something called the HEAVEN"S GATE. The greys want access to it. No one really knows what it is. Also, something is comming here from Orion. This something is HUGE!!! Again, no one knows what the hell it is or what its doing or what it's going to do.

This guy (GL2) needs to get his facts straight..... ROLF

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You are making a serious mistake if you believe anything Boylan says. I have met him on numerous occasions, read one of his books, and checked his website, and, based on my experience, if Boylan said the world was round I would begin to suspect that it may be flat. William B Stoecker

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Have you read airman Charles Hall's first book, Millenial Hospitality, about the tall white aliens based near Indian Springs Nevada, with the sanction of US defense and black budget personnae? Richard Boylan wrote about it recently when promoting Helen Littrel's book, Rachel's Eyes. What Boylan neglects to mention is that a four star Air Force general in the Pentagon (and other military commanders) explicitly allowed the tall whites to kill US soldiers on the base surrounding the tall white site--if the soldiers approached the tall whites in any way that simply frightened them. Hall writes repeatedly about their use of pencil-like weapons with three settings; one for pain, another for unconsciousness, and a third that can kill.

Hall and other airmen were injured by tall whites. I find the tall white's quotes quaintly ironic in that it's been suggested they've been here since, of all people, James Madison's time (the main author of the Constitution). That smacks of a propaganda ploy. Why not say since the time of the Anasazi or Moctezuma?

My main concern about the tall white story is that they're presented (or they present themselves) as though they just happened to travel in our vicinity, as though they only coincidentally found our planet during cross galaxy voyages. That's deceptive for one obvious reason. As you may know, aliens look very different from humans. They evolve from other species on other planets under conditions that can be starkly different from Earth, also. So, when tall whites have large human blue eyes with white skin and are so close to our appearance that one can sneak into a Vegas casino with sunglasses on and pass for a light-skinned human, the similarity to humans is far too close to be coincidental.

Instead, they were probably engineered to look like humans, for obvious reasons. I suspect that they are Verdant-gray federation hybrids to be used in controlling humans. It appears to be the carrot-on-a-stick approach. The tall whites reportedly gave US generals the nuclear propulsion technology used on the large black triangle craft called the TR-3B, which was reported by Edgar "Rothschild" Fouche. *My alien sources, over years of communications, say that the French Rothschild is "direct operative" of the federation; in other words, working for them here directly as part of the intervention. So, the whole TR-3B scheme appears to be a ploy, in part. They give narco-dealing black budget gullibles a minor tech innovation (nuclear thrusters that are only good for low altitude flight, not deep space or interstellar travel) in order to tease and encourage US militarization of space. The federation also appears to have decided to use their most corrupt "direct human operatives" to gain leverage over the secret, narco-dealing, murderous black budget nightmare. As Hall indicates, US generals are easy dupes--taken on joy rides to the moon, it seems, then returning slap-happy and elitist. They'd shoot a man like JFK for trying to open up their doings to public scrutiny. It's marginally mind-controlled, operational logic. The more lethal, the better, they think. They wear blinders and don't make big decisions; the private profiteers gained control over them long ago and some military personnae resent that, but what can they do, other than aid in exposing crimes in government?

And who would report such crimes under a criminal "empire" like the one Bush is trying to sneak into our basket? No one, unless they manage to filter the news to hundreds of independent news sources, all at once. We need a peaceful revolution of the sort, but how many military men are equal to the founding revolutionaries? We're the killer empire, now, not the underdog. Only extraordinary individuals, working in cells or in concert with a larger faction would even think of acting, as such. It will probably be random civil employees who do such exposes first. But risk a job? Hail Caesar!

*Here's one recipe for a quick revolution in government: compile the dirtiest Monarch program video clips and photos of high officials and their cronies doing Monarch sex crimes, also torturing Monarch betas in NASA and other official sites (like the Mt. Shasta site, Offut Air Force Base, and so on), then mail it all ON ONE SINGLE CD to hundreds of independent and global news sites, plus place it all over the web all at one moment. It would overthrow the criminal cabal in short order--a bloodless removal of so many. Just in time.

The tall white-influenced TR-3B will never go to another star. Humans can't withstand the radiation of the superluminal passage, so they'd fry on the way. Aliens are genetically engineered and have Tesla structure built into their craft, or suits, to protect them from the radiation. So, the whole tall white and TR-3B routine is a set-up, used to make tightly gagged elitist generals think they're on top of the world, that they must murder and accommodate narcotics and neo-fascist subterfuge to keep on top. But they can be shot down by the dimmest, least capable alien at any time. It's like giving old WWI biplanes to a native tribe: they'd think they're invulnerable, but they wouldn't get far.

The cult-like secrecy surrounding the TR-3B and the TAW-50 (Boylan's latest reported anti-gravity craft that's does a slightly faster delivery of cluster bombs; it's not an interstellar vehicle) may be literally that. Men who agree to, or are complicit in, murder of THOUSANDS OF CIVILIANS AND WITNESSES (probably more than all soldiers who died in the American Revolution, at this point), men who give the nod to massive narco trafficking and a Roman empire-like scheme, are easily used by federation aliens to further their dirty work, here, whether they do so knowingly or not. Just add a little religious fundamentalism and some terror, then the whole human planet becomes more unstable and vulnerable, ripe for the abductors' intervention.

The tall whites appear to be like the tall grays: cloned hybrids just slightly more capable than the natives (us) and mean enough to kill in order to do federation manipulations here. I've personally remotely probed their electrogravity and spatial orientations. The result? They appear to be DIRECTLY tied into the federation's network. They certainly aren't independent; they're hybrids to be used as another prong of an empire's intervention here. They pretend that they aren't part of the abducting intervention, but they appear to be just that.

As for Boylan, his glowingly uncritical Star Seed talk is peculiar. Why would someone in the military seek out Boylan to have Boylan release classified info about aliens and the TAW-50, the X-22A and so on? No one else reported such craft but Boylan. I suspect that they see Boylan as a complete dupe of the federation aliens. Any info they give him is immediately translated into pro-federation propaganda. ~Up with the abducting aliens, down with human self-control. Meanwhile, the gray federation reportedly has tightly obscured control over the most corrupt black budget criminals. It's a massive fraud, one of the biggest stories of our time. It will never be reported by Fox or Parade magazine. Nor will Spielberg touch the theme.

Boylan's supporters try to say that he was set up by those who had him de-certified for his sexual misbehaviors with psychotherapy patients. I read the board's report on the UFO hall of shame webpage (much of that website is sloppy, but the Boylan report is the offical paper) and Boylan even admits to the therapy review board that, if allowed to continue as a therapist, he wouldn't repeat his actions (asking one patient to give him nude massages in return for therapy, sleeping nude in the bed next to another patient at a convention, and asking a third patient to enter a hot tub naked with him to help rid herself of body preoccupations). The patients complained and Boylan's behavior was sharply unprofessional. Psychologists shouldn't mix such behaviors with that of highly vulnerable, then later resentful patient clients.

About a month ago, right after I first read the report that de-certified Boylan (taking away his therapy license) one alien source who regularly communicates with me stated that Boylan may have been provoked by federation aliens to behave so unprofessionally in order to de-stabilize him. Now he gets most of his income by conducting Star Seed workshops that are entirely pro federation. Destabilizations are a typical intelligence ploy, and Boylan was known for his interest in such aliens before he screwed up and lost his professional license. Now he's up a creek.

In short, the federation intervention appears to de-stabilize and corrupt its direct operatives (i.e. according to non-federation aliens there are "direct operatives" of the federation in the Biderman part of the Du Pont family, the French Rothschild, and other high level positions). The federation intervention is aggressive and manipulative. They likely try to destabilize less dangerous, mere aficionados like Boylan, also in order to massage them in the direction of the abduction/control scheme.

I recommend Charles Hall's books, by the way. Part of his report is lucidly aware that US officials were deeply compromised and that Hall's military colleagues were victimized, although Hall isn't judgemental in his reportage. His experience happened decades ago, way before most of us ever even read about aliens and a federation.

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THE TALL WHITE ET's-the name coined by Charles Hall author/contactee.His books cover his contacts while serving as a weather man at Indian Springs AFB. I camped there, near the Tall White Base at whats now called Creech AFB at Indian Springs,Nv. No one knows their real name ,could be they are secretive about their home planet due to other Aliens being a threat to them or from our military which they know not to trust.

My TWA History:

1.Back in the 60's i did a homework assignment were i clipped out a time magazine article entitled "who were they" showing a picture of the Talls all dressed-up having crashed a embassy ball !

2.In the '80s at a used book store i came across the lost book of the Talls, written by a NJ housewife who befriended military personel , photos of talls were used in book.I tried emailing many ufo-book-sources ,to no avail. Charles Hall once owned the book yet it vanished. Anyone who has or knows of this book please contact. Its about 150 pages ,dark front cover, black n white photos.

3.Then in '90 i came out of the bathroom of the Tropicana Casino late one night and noticed 4 talls ,one was climbing the stairs in a most peculiar manor. I later found it was due to not being used to earth gravity,thus a new arrival. I was dumbfounded. I felt guilty for staring & left.

4.It was 15 yrs later that i heard Charles Hall interviewed that made me recall seeing them.He informed that they play poker at nearby casinos. I went back and confirmed that those stairs led to the poker room!

5. 2005 i camped near their Indian Springs Base - scout craft came out one night, signaled my light ,it went in reverse and hide in a cloud.A few nights later one levitated-about near by.A tall guard descended down from the ridge.

I now have left NV ,actually fed up with not making communication with them. I have posted alot of info on them on the charles hall interviews that are on youtube. I believe the Talls use the internet (sometimes, like when bored or..) anyhow they could email me there. I have something important to share with them.

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We are talking about the New Nevada Basket Ball team right? I heard they were all very tall for White boys! but couldnt Dunk for Adam! :sk

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We are talking about the New Nevada Basket Ball team right? I heard they were all very tall for White boys! but couldnt Dunk for Adam! :sk

Nope. the talls are too fragile to play sports with earthlings. yet they would be great in track or non contact sports.

They're great at poker since they can talk amongst themselves without us hearing and they seem to notice ever so slight scratches on the cards and memorize the deck that way. So, all you can do is cover you cards with your hands as best you can and try to act like you can hear them ,it might help.

Whats even more strange is how the person who started this thread has never come back to reply?????

They shared fair info on Hall and put down Boylan .... was that their agenda or?

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THE TALL WHITE ET's-the name coined by Charles Hall author/contactee.His books cover his contacts while serving as a weather man at Indian Springs AFB. I camped there, near the Tall White Base at whats now called Creech AFB at Indian Springs,Nv. No one knows their real name ,could be they are secretive about their home planet due to other Aliens being a threat to them or from our military which they know not to trust.

My TWA History:

1.Back in the 60's i did a homework assignment were i clipped out a time magazine article entitled "who were they" showing a picture of the Talls all dressed-up having crashed a embassy ball !

2.In the '80s at a used book store i came across the lost book of the Talls, written by a NJ housewife who befriended military personel , photos of talls were used in book.I tried emailing many ufo-book-sources ,to no avail. Charles Hall once owned the book yet it vanished. Anyone who has or knows of this book please contact. Its about 150 pages ,dark front cover, black n white photos.

3.Then in '90 i came out of the bathroom of the Tropicana Casino late one night and noticed 4 talls ,one was climbing the stairs in a most peculiar manor. I later found it was due to not being used to earth gravity,thus a new arrival. I was dumbfounded. I felt guilty for staring & left.

4.It was 15 yrs later that i heard Charles Hall interviewed that made me recall seeing them.He informed that they play poker at nearby casinos. I went back and confirmed that those stairs led to the poker room!

5. 2005 i camped near their Indian Springs Base - scout craft came out one night, signaled my light ,it went in reverse and hide in a cloud.A few nights later one levitated-about near by.A tall guard descended down from the ridge.

I now have left NV ,actually fed up with not making communication with them. I have posted alot of info on them on the charles hall interviews that are on youtube. I believe the Talls use the internet (sometimes, like when bored or..) anyhow they could email me there. I have something important to share with them.

I work at Creech AFB. I'm a government contractor. I was stationed at Nellis AFB from January 1998 to October 2005. I'd been to Indian Springs numerous times before it's recent expansion. In 2005, the site was still very small. Creech got it's name from General Creech, who died a few years ago. He was once the Tactical Air Commander before it was renamed Air Combat Command. He was not a nice guy.

I know for a FACT there aren't any aliens at Creech. If you understood why the base existed (google is your friend) in the first place, you'd know that it's too small, and certainly not remote enough to house aliens. Not to mention, we don't have any base housing yet, since the base is too small. We have a crappy dorm, a crappy shoppette, which I might add is lacking in variety of alcoholic beverages. The base is only a few miles from Vegada High Desert State Prison, and on the other side of 95 is the town of Indian Springs. It's quite small and boring. The casino is garbage, and the gas stations on each side of 95 generally charge between 10 to 20 cents per gallon more than gas in Vegas, which is where I live, at Rainbow and 95. I'd like to know where you think these aliens are staying... perhaps at the run-down RV park past the gas station on the right just before the main gate?

Was this alleged "scout vehicle" you're not telling the truth about a Predator? I work 2-10 PM Monday through Friday, and occasionally weekends. I know what we have flying out there are night, and they sure as hell aren't alien aircraft. The base is 100% visible from the road, and I see people parked out next to the cesspool (at least that's what it smells like) once in a while watching the planes.

Oh, and FYI, Predators can't fly in reverse : )

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I work at Creech AFB. I'm a government contractor. I was stationed at Nellis AFB from January 1998 to October 2005. I'd been to Indian Springs numerous times before it's recent expansion. In 2005, the site was still very small. Creech got it's name from General Creech, who died a few years ago. He was once the Tactical Air Commander before it was renamed Air Combat Command. He was not a nice guy.

I know for a FACT there aren't any aliens at Creech. If you understood why the base existed (google is your friend) in the first place, you'd know that it's too small, and certainly not remote enough to house aliens. Not to mention, we don't have any base housing yet, since the base is too small. We have a crappy dorm, a crappy shoppette, which I might add is lacking in variety of alcoholic beverages. The base is only a few miles from Vegada High Desert State Prison, and on the other side of 95 is the town of Indian Springs. It's quite small and boring. The casino is garbage, and the gas stations on each side of 95 generally charge between 10 to 20 cents per gallon more than gas in Vegas, which is where I live, at Rainbow and 95. I'd like to know where you think these aliens are staying... perhaps at the run-down RV park past the gas station on the right just before the main gate?

Was this alleged "scout vehicle" you're not telling the truth about a Predator? I work 2-10 PM Monday through Friday, and occasionally weekends. I know what we have flying out there are night, and they sure as hell aren't alien aircraft. The base is 100% visible from the road, and I see people parked out next to the cesspool (at least that's what it smells like) once in a while watching the planes.

Oh, and FYI, Predators can't fly in reverse : )

while camped near creech durring the day /night the predator flew and made a noise and never had a field surrounding it making it completely white with a fuzzy outline.

now ,pretty soon i will be leaving this to the vultures and skeptics to take over . for i have done my job this week by checking something out for the first time. i have learned from you guys whats going on inside the minds of at least the armchair computer doubting thomas's ,yet a very small minority were positive and then there were the silent majority.

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while camped near creech durring the day /night the predator flew and made a noise and never had a field surrounding it making it completely white with a fuzzy outline.

now ,pretty soon i will be leaving this to the vultures and skeptics to take over . for i have done my job this week by checking something out for the first time. i have learned from you guys whats going on inside the minds of at least the armchair computer doubting thomas's ,yet a very small minority were positive and then there were the silent majority.

You are lying. Period.

MQ-1 Predator

Do you even know what the propulsion system is on a Predator? Look here: Predator Specs

It's a 115 HP engine. Nothing more, nothing less. Not the most sophisticated piece of equipment on earth.

Like I said. I WORK AT CREECH AFB.

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You are lying. Period.

MQ-1 Predator

Do you even know what the propulsion system is on a Predator? Look here: Predator Specs

It's a 115 HP engine. Nothing more, nothing less. Not the most sophisticated piece of equipment on earth.

Like I said. I WORK AT CREECH AFB.

and because you work there you would know everything ??? that is if you worked there etc

i guess you knew what was flying at 4 am march 25th 2005 ..... this is when things had shut down on the base .

the craft happened to stop right over me and go into reverse back into the clouds that covered the mtns on the boarder of mercury and indian springs afb.... it wasnt til the next year i believe did they change the name to creech. im sure they didnt like halls book that informed everyone that the backyard to area 51 has some interesting things stashed here n there. But do the average joes who work at the base know about that? hell no. but so you can rest at night , yes im telling a complete lie, now go to bed . I'm sure the tall whites are p***ed off too since they didn't want their vulnerabilities exposed as well as that they got bored and played poker. Im certain about both sightings as well as the article in time magazine that was recalled and this lost ,confiscated book on the talls by that new jersey housewife . This thing is much bigger then little ole you or me. but i one thing should be eating at you , its not my job to stay up b s ing people, its not my job to pump halls books.... i dont get a dime for either and my ego doesnt care either. im sharing solid info ... plain and simple ---- and guess what i saw nothing the following 3 yrs after and felt i wasted too much time. the talls are like g1 (the person who created this thread) are part of some grey federation and only hybrids ,or like hall says ,,,, they just need a god damn place to patch their hull and gather titanium .ie. service craft and or act as galactic merchants as well .Just be

glad you've got a dang job and are not on the front line somewhere picking up gulf war syndrome (attacks nervous system) ,the us is using radiated bullets etc ----against UN policy. Be glad your not seeing combat ---if you are who you claim (probably not), Better yet go back to sleep and have me kicked off this website. Or tell the head honcho there that this guy wants a job as et liason , salary has to be 6 figures .

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and because you work there you would know everything ??? that is if you worked there etc

i guess you knew what was flying at 4 am march 25th 2005 ..... this is when things had shut down on the base .

the craft happened to stop right over me and go into reverse back into the clouds that covered the mtns on the boarder of mercury and indian springs afb.... it wasnt til the next year i believe did they change the name to creech. im sure they didnt like halls book that informed everyone that the backyard to area 51 has some interesting things stashed here n there. But do the average joes who work at the base know about that? hell no. but so you can rest at night , yes im telling a complete lie, now go to bed . I'm sure the tall whites are p***ed off too since they didn't want their vulnerabilities exposed as well as that they got bored and played poker. Im certain about both sightings as well as the article in time magazine that was recalled and this lost ,confiscated book on the talls by that new jersey housewife . This thing is much bigger then little ole you or me. but i one thing should be eating at you , its not my job to stay up b s ing people, its not my job to pump halls books.... i dont get a dime for either and my ego doesnt care either. im sharing solid info ... plain and simple ---- and guess what i saw nothing the following 3 yrs after and felt i wasted too much time. the talls are like g1 (the person who created this thread) are part of some grey federation and only hybrids ,or like hall says ,,,, they just need a god damn place to patch their hull and gather titanium .ie. service craft and or act as galactic merchants as well .Just be

glad you've got a dang job and are not on the front line somewhere picking up gulf war syndrome (attacks nervous system) ,the us is using radiated bullets etc ----against UN policy. Be glad your not seeing combat ---if you are who you claim (probably not), Better yet go back to sleep and have me kicked off this website. Or tell the head honcho there that this guy wants a job as et liason , salary has to be 6 figures .

I was deployed to Kuwait Dec 2002 through May 2003. Already did my time in the gulf while I was active duty. Thanks!

You said "worked there..." I work there. I've been working there since the 8th of October. Creech is a very small base. Even someone who doesn't work on the base can easily figure out what goes on there. And it's nothing special. I just find it really stupid for someone to make claims that ET lives/works/plays at a place I work at. Someone who has absolutely no clue whatsoever what goes on, someone who makes up blatant lies about COMMON KNOWLEDGE just to be heard. I've had dozens of people ask me about my involvement with aliens because of their ignorance about Nellis AFB/Creech AFB.

People bash the hell out of skeptics all the time. They say we have no idea what we're talking about. They say we're ignorant. We ignore alleged "facts" and so on and so forth. You my friend, are THE prime example of what many believers do in order to force opinions down our throats as fact. Unfortunately for you, I actually work at a place you have claimed to see things that do not exist, and you got called out on a lie. So here you are trying to make it look as though I'm the liar by making comments such as "if you are who you claim (probably not)," so very cute.

I've got a friend who's 6'4 and white. Think he's an alien too?

:::yank yank:::

Thanks for the laugh.

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I was deployed to Kuwait Dec 2002 through May 2003. Already did my time in the gulf while I was active duty. Thanks!

You said "worked there..." I work there. I've been working there since the 8th of October. Creech is a very small base. Even someone who doesn't work on the base can easily figure out what goes on there. And it's nothing special. I just find it really stupid for someone to make claims that ET lives/works/plays at a place I work at. Someone who has absolutely no clue whatsoever what goes on, someone who makes up blatant lies about COMMON KNOWLEDGE just to be heard. I've had dozens of people ask me about my involvement with aliens because of their ignorance about Nellis AFB/Creech AFB.

People bash the hell out of skeptics all the time. They say we have no idea what we're talking about. They say we're ignorant. We ignore alleged "facts" and so on and so forth. You my friend, are THE prime example of what many believers do in order to force opinions down our throats as fact. Unfortunately for you, I actually work at a place you have claimed to see things that do not exist, and you got called out on a lie. So here you are trying to make it look as though I'm the liar by making comments such as "if you are who you claim (probably not)," so very cute.

I've got a friend who's 6'4 and white. Think he's an alien too?

:::yank yank:::

Thanks for the laugh.

now you can rest at night since you know i only tell lies

heres another lie of mine ...gulf war syndrome attacks the nervous system. if you already have a strange shake ...guess what it will get worse!!!

in a way its out tax payers money at use ----- just as agent orange was and all those vaccinations your forced to take . did you ever wonder why they gave you a untested anthrax vaccination? do a google search on that one----the drug company profiting from that one had never done the proper clinical studies ----it was rushed into the veins of guys like you???? love your job still?

another lie is that this site seems to alow disinfo to flow like wine and if anyone posts something valid yet not in line with the media controllers and nsa's policies ,cia etc then guess what..... these high paid agents get to share their skeptic posts ,followed by the brainwashed bystanders. The smart folks i presume watch from the sidelines or have gotten the hell out of here a long time ago (see you).

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now you can rest at night since you know i only tell lies

heres another lie of mine ...gulf war syndrome attacks the nervous system. if you already have a strange shake ...guess what it will get worse!!!

in a way its out tax payers money at use ----- just as agent orange was and all those vaccinations your forced to take . did you ever wonder why they gave you a untested anthrax vaccination? do a google search on that one----the drug company profiting from that one had never done the proper clinical studies ----it was rushed into the veins of guys like you???? love your job still?

another lie is that this site seems to alow disinfo to flow like wine and if anyone posts something valid yet not in line with the media controllers and nsa's policies ,cia etc then guess what..... these high paid agents get to share their skeptic posts ,followed by the brainwashed bystanders. The smart folks i presume watch from the sidelines or have gotten the hell out of here a long time ago (see you).

I already rest well at night. Your lies don't make a difference to me. They make me laugh, and you've pretty much proven to have 0% credibility, not to mention you have shown yourself to not have a clue what you're talking about.

As for your other "lie..." Again, you have no idea what you're talking about. Yammer on all you'd like about gulf war syndrome. You obviously didn't pay attention to the timeframe I was deployed. I wasn't in the gulf war. I was there for Operations Southern Watch, Enduring Freedom, and Iraqi Freedom. You're a little over a decade off on your ASSUMPTION. I don't have gulf war syndrome. I don't have the shakes. I have zero medical problems from my time in the middle east : ) Sorry to disappoint you!

What you should have asked is if I care about the anthrax vaccine. I don't (because it didn't have any adverse affects). I got the series, and I have no medical problems related to the vaccine, which I did research, because I after all, was the one who got them while you were sitting here listening to AM radio, postulating conspiracy theories. As far as my job, yes, I love it. As I have stated, I am a government contractor. I'm not in the military anymore. If I had to, I would do it all over again. It was a good time. If anything, I'd have a higher chance of medical problems caused by the 500+ allergy shots I received over the course of a year and a half.

This site isn't a vehicle for disinformation, as you claim. If anything, it gives a lot of people like you, who have no idea what's going on to speculate and make accusations without proof. It allows people like you to blatantly lie about something you claim to have seen, and then you claim disinformation when someone flat-out proves you're lying. The smart folks don't assume. The smart folks have done real research (unbiased research) in the real world, outside of biased nut-job sites such as abovetopsecret.com. Throwing accusations, posting lies, etc... is doing nothing but destroying any chance for HONEST believers to be heard because it'll be assumed they're just as full of crap as you are. YOU are ruining it for other people.

The TRUE disinformation comes from the constant lies and assumptions of people that the magical alien fairies are all over the place.

Try logic for a change.

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per zeus comment on p. 1... I suppose I owe you an apology--I must have had too much coffee when I first posted this thread. I should explain more. The best place to find out about tall whites is Charles Hall's books. Then, for good maps, details and discussion read Salla's comments and the openseti page: www.openseti.org/Hall.html It's spectacular. Finally, more on how I check on tall whites in remote sensing.

To begin with, I first stumbled on contact back in 1995. It was unexpected, in my case. I was previously skeptical, due to the speed of light limitation on transit over vast distances. Little did I know. Only after some time of ongoing contacts did I even begin to learn basic remote sensing. In 2005 parts of my book Alien Mind were put on the web. (free at www.alienmindbook.org ) George Noory had me on for three hours before I'd even finished the book. It's about how aliens think. More to the point, I go into fine detail about the basis for telepathy, the science behind it, quotes by experts on how-to, plus my own section on how to directly check on aliens. One proviso: you would want to think carefully about the science before trying it. And it doesn't happen overnight. Finally, be very careful re aliens---some abduct, the tall whites are violent, and keep a good distance. Know how to fade your remote sensing down, leaving multiple layers of what is essentially dark space between you and them (extra dimension). And keep your friends apprised of any remote checks you do on aliens. Report to the reading public what you come up with. Don't be some secret hoarder.

So, zeus, I should have revisited this site sooner. I somehow goofed my password for months in a row--may have copied a later version down badly and couldn't get on. Now, I'll start posting here again. I've got lots of new info---about a book's worth of articles, commentary, plus a new book I'm writing. And zeus, your skepticism is good, generally speaking. To wonder about the basis, any science and more is good, careful method. There is so much crap and unscientific conjecture on the web. By reading good science (read sciencedaily.com every day, for example) and by reading good science magazines, books, and more importantly thinking about it all, we're better able to sort out the slop from what may be true.

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Disagreement is fine, but let's not make it personal. Creech AFB is listed as a Predator and diversion field, also the Air Force flying show jets practise there. I'm sure you could be on the base, and if you don't go out past Range 4 you won't see anything to suggest aliens--unless your friends happen to have done so and tell you about it.

As for tall whites in casinos, I'd imagine they aren't much on gaming but would only be there to observe human behavior, and infrequently at that. Hall saw one at a table with food on it and the tall white didn't touch the food. He/it was merely watching the crowd, it seems. You would get cabin fever living in some tiny base, so an excursion by an alien that could pass for a tall, albino-looking person in dark glasses might fit in. Again, the reports of tall whites violence are most disturbing. I see how the Air Force could have been conned into thinking the tall whites, as Hall suggests, don't like grays but are harsh adversaries. I suspect that that's all a diversion for tall whites to get a foot in the door. They look too human, and if extant, would probably be just another genetically designed finger on the glove of the grays' abducting intervention here. Hall suggests they first got basing rights in the early 50's. He heard since '54. Ironically that was one year after Eisenhower reportedly let Rockefellers cut presidents out of alien-related programs, which Eisenhower hadn't intended. Gen. Steven Lovekin says Eisenhower felt betrayed.

Ryan Wood's dad, Bob Wood, sent a Las Vegas newspaper article from about 1951 about how $300 million was to then be spent on building housing for that rather small Indian Springs base (now called Creech). Since it was started the base has always been just a diversion field, and Hall notes a small contingent of airmen there. Michael Salla calculated that $300 million in '51 equates to $2.2 billion in 2005 dollars, so that would have been too much for just the barracks. A more likely figure for barracks would have been some $20 million back in '51. The question then, is what was all that money for? Michael Wolf said that alien wreckage was sent to Indian Springs after Roswell--don't know which wreckage. So, Hall's story has some corroboration, in that sense. Also, David Coote spoke to 3 of Hall's then base-mates who said they'd seen whitish unexplaineds, i.e. the apparition-like impression that Hall says new arrivals could only guess was there, given that they weren't briefed about aliens at the time.

Salla thinks the tall whites may be the counterpart, here, for what are the tall grays. In other words, the same heavy handed aliens who intervened on, and may have effectively killed, the grays' original planet, may have concocted a tall "white" version to be used to task and direct some humans. The openseti page notes how tall whites were always trying to be tight w. Air Force brass but disdained lower ranking airmen. They also used force too easily. For example, Hall quotes one tall white talking about killing all the airmen who might have stumbled onto them, at one point (as if they might have done so had they been disturbed). That kind of talk is more like the footsoldiers of a colonizer than the rational, considerate behavior that would be required of an independent population that really wanted to keep a remote base on another peoples' planet.

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1.Back in the 60's i did a homework assignment were i clipped out a time magazine article entitled- Who were they? It showed a picture of the Talls all dressed-up having crashed a embassy ball ! Yet, ambassadors from N Spain were not invested, nor did they have proof.

2.In the '80s at a used book store i came across the lost book of the Talls, written by a NJ housewife who befriended military personel , photos of talls were used in book.I tried emailing many ufo-book-sources ,to no avail. Charles Hall once owned the book yet it vanished. Anyone who has or knows of this book please contact. Its about 150 pages ,dark front cover, black n white photos.I must of been confiscated for being top secret.

3.Then in '90 i came out of the bathroom of the Tropicana Casino late one night and noticed 4 talls ,one was climbing the stairs in a most peculiar manor. I later found it was due to not being used to earth gravity,thus a new arrival. I was dumbfounded. I felt guilty for staring as they turned to watch me. Charles Hall informed me who they were.

4.It was 15 yrs later that i heard the Charles Hall interview .He informed that they play poker at nearby casinos. I went back and confirmed that those stairs led to the poker room! (yet the casino was remodeled now but workers shared what it was like then.

5. 2005 i camped near their Indian Springs Base - scout craft came out one night, signaled my light ,it went in reverse and hide in a cloud.A few nights later one levitated-about near by.A tall guard descended down from the ridge.

Do you have any physical evidence of these so called "whities"? You are asking us to suspend rationality.

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Do you have any physical evidence of these so called "whities"? You are asking us to suspend rationality.

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