LucidElement Posted May 28, 2005 #1 Share Posted May 28, 2005 Basically, my question is this guys and gals.. It was painted first by Leonardo Da Vinci, now there is so much controversy on is it Mary Magdalene by his side, and why is their no wine on the table, all these are great factors, which make for a good controversy topic... but my question is, its one guys perspective, and thats what he painted.. so why is their so much controversy on is it Mary Magdalene next to Jesus and the other takes.. its like if JOHN DOE painted it, and there was a FROG next to Jesus they would be like oh my god, did Jesus have a pet.. i hope you all know where im comming from and i hope you can get me some insight and theories on why his painting was and is so controversial, thans all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-La Posted May 28, 2005 #2 Share Posted May 28, 2005 I totally agree to what you said. I think it's because its like the painting has been there forever and thats what people conjure up in mind when talking about the last supper. Leonardo being a genius doesnt mean he's an eye witness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryso Posted May 28, 2005 #3 Share Posted May 28, 2005 I know what you mean… There’s a lot of controversy concerning this painting, mainly because of Dan Browns book, stating that it was Mary Magdalene sat next to Jesus. [attachmentid=15218] [attachmentid=15219] Even if this is a female - it does look more feminine than masculine - so what? It’s only his interpretation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amalgamut Posted May 28, 2005 #4 Share Posted May 28, 2005 That apostle (cannot remember his name) was a male, however he was usually depicted as feminine. In many other paintings, you see him as painted looking feminine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walken Posted May 29, 2005 #5 Share Posted May 29, 2005 I beleive the apostle you are referring to is John. John was the youngest of the disciples and was in all likelihood, very feminine looking. There is a theory put foward through 'The Davinchi legacy' that states that the apostle we say is John is actually Mary Magdalin, but all the theory is- is a nice story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amalgamut Posted May 29, 2005 #6 Share Posted May 29, 2005 I beleive the apostle you are referring to is John. John was the youngest of the disciples and was in all likelihood, very feminine looking. 645770[/snapback] Yes, that's his name. Thx Walken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shivel Posted May 29, 2005 #7 Share Posted May 29, 2005 That painting is completely false, if only for the fact that the table would have been different. On important occasions such as this, the table would have been three sided, with Jesus sitting on the left hand side. Also, there would be no chairs, most of them wouldnt even be sitting at all, they usually would lay down and eat. Like everyone had said, this painting is just one mans perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucidElement Posted May 29, 2005 Author #8 Share Posted May 29, 2005 it is one man's persepective.. but soo much controvery now.. i like what Kryso was saying about it all.. about how DaVinci was soo amazing in everything he has done... but i still find this is soo fascinating to talk about.. pleaseee keep your theories comming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amalgamut Posted May 30, 2005 #9 Share Posted May 30, 2005 It would make no sense if this were actually "Mary magdelene". There are twelve apostles. So, they would be missing one here, if John were Mary, there would only be eleven. Then the question arises....where would John be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperactive Posted May 30, 2005 #10 Share Posted May 30, 2005 maybe john was busy that day, or he was in the little boy's room, or he was just being a john..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH2097 Posted May 30, 2005 #11 Share Posted May 30, 2005 Well, if you look at it, the 2nd, 5th (mentioned as Mary), and 8th, all look kind of feminine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucidElement Posted May 30, 2005 Author #12 Share Posted May 30, 2005 really RH... ima take a look at it... JOEY JORDINSON.. im listin to Slipknot now... its soo tight how in his concert he does the upside drum solo.. have u seen it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ed Posted May 30, 2005 #13 Share Posted May 30, 2005 The painting does actually show the 'man' next to Jesus, to have breasts...What more proof do you need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walken Posted May 30, 2005 #14 Share Posted May 30, 2005 But let us remember - The Da Vinchi code is just a re-worded version of The Da Vinchi legacey. However, the author of Legacey said it was just a story, where the author of code tells the same story but as truth.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loge Posted May 30, 2005 #15 Share Posted May 30, 2005 The last kiss of a loving wife to her condemned husband! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amalgamut Posted May 30, 2005 #16 Share Posted May 30, 2005 The painting does actually show the 'man' next to Jesus, to have breasts...What more proof do you need? 647160[/snapback] Where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shivel Posted May 30, 2005 #17 Share Posted May 30, 2005 The last kiss of a loving wife to her condemned husband! 647339[/snapback] I wonder why she only has 4 fingers on her left hand.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amalgamut Posted May 30, 2005 #18 Share Posted May 30, 2005 I wonder why she only has 4 fingers on her left hand.. 647765[/snapback] Probably because the person who painted it was drunk or stoned or both at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBoyC Posted May 30, 2005 #19 Share Posted May 30, 2005 there is all types of controversy on this, John The Baptist ALWAYS sits where "Mary Magdelane" is shown. He had a feminine look to him, but his hair wanst nearlyas long, his hair reached his shoulders,not his hips. The dipiction shows someone else, not John. NOT TO JUMP TO CONCLUSION SAYING IT IS MARY MAGDALANE, BEACUSE IT COULD HAVE BEEN SOMEONE ELSE although i think that the probability that it is mary magdalane is pretty large, also if you noticed, there is a hand more to the left of "mary" that has a dagger! here is what i see, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucidElement Posted May 31, 2005 Author #20 Share Posted May 31, 2005 HAHAHAH THAT IS SOOOO FUNNY!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amalgamut Posted May 31, 2005 #21 Share Posted May 31, 2005 There are a few other guys in there that look fruity. Not just John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoddessWhispers Posted May 31, 2005 #22 Share Posted May 31, 2005 Well, if you look at it, the 2nd, 5th (mentioned as Mary), and 8th, all look kind of feminine. 646896[/snapback] Thank you for adding that to this discussion RH2097. Others have made that observation before, and I can certainly understand why. It's for that reason that I like this Image, which is currently my 'puters wallpaper. Da Vinci was known for inserting subtle cue's into his work, case in point the theory that the Mona Lisa was actually a self portrait, feminized. The shy grin on her countenance said to reflect Leonardo's knowledge of the hidden truth behind what came to be known as one of his finest portraits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amalgamut Posted June 1, 2005 #23 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Da Vinci was known for inserting subtle cue's into his work, case in point the theory that the Mona Lisa was actually a self portrait, feminized. The shy grin on her countenance said to reflect Leonardo's knowledge of the hidden truth behind what came to be known as one of his finest portraits. [/color] 649692[/snapback] So, was Da Vinci gay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyxis Posted June 1, 2005 #24 Share Posted June 1, 2005 So, was Da Vinci gay? That's the rumor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperactive Posted June 1, 2005 #25 Share Posted June 1, 2005 There are a few other guys in there that look fruity. Not just John. 649662[/snapback] fruity apostles. perhaps devinci was telling something deep and profound about christianity.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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