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Pope rejects condoms for Africa

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Essan

Having sex, other than purely for procreations, is, I think we all agree, natural.

Using a condom to prevent the transmission of disease whilst having sex is not natural......

......in the same way as washing our hands with soap is not natural. Or using suncream to protect our skin is not natural original.gif

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wunarmdscissor
Having sex, other than purely for procreations, is, I think we all agree, natural.

Using a condom to prevent the transmission of disease whilst having sex is not natural......

......in the same way as washing our hands with soap is not natural. Or using suncream to protect our skin is not natural

like i said , im not saying using condoms is natural.

but as i said we dont live in the middle ages.

modern day solutions to modern day problems.

if we all didnt have sex we'd be so frustated and repressed that wed go around like maniacs.

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wunarmdscissor

and if god is such a forgiving all seeing being then am pretty sure he would have the forsight to see the difference.

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wunarmdscissor

an anyway what is natural?

we evolved into sentient intelligent beings didnt we.

we drive cars and other modern day inventions.

your using a bloody computer is that natural.

whats the difference?

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SnakeProphet

have absolutley no idea what the he;ll your talking about.

If you are even slightly hinting what i think you are then your a total disgrace.

sex abuse is the most disgusting thing an adult can do.

Sarcasm.I m sure you heard of it.

Having sex, other than purely for procreations, is, I think we all agree, natural.

No.Unless you see some mokeys using condoms there is nothing natural in using sex as a stress reliever.

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SnakeProphet

an anyway what is natural?

we evolved into sentient intelligent beings didnt we.

we drive cars and other modern day inventions.

your using a bloody computer is that natural.

whats the difference?

The difference is I wouldn t be using it ,if I get AIDS that way.

Edited by Snake_6024

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wunarmdscissor

but the fumes are killing you.

anyway i want a response regarding your last comment.

explain what the hell you were talking about on your last point?

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SnakeProphet

explain what the hell you were talking about on your last point?

What do you mean?The monkeys?

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wunarmdscissor

sorry missed that last bit.

however i dont see much to be sarcastic about regarding sex abuse

and monkeys arent as evolved as us.

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wunarmdscissor

yeah i didnt realise you had resonded to what i was sayin

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SnakeProphet

No they aren t.But monkeys are pretty close.

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wunarmdscissor

how much technology do u use each day that is slowly killing you?

do u smoke?

do u drive?

do u live next to power lines?

do u own a microwave?

do u own a mobile phone?

do u use wireless internet access?

do u drink alcohol?

do u ever take drugs?

have u kissed anyone before?

have U had sex before?

do u ever eat fast food?

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Iilaa'mpuul'xem

I think where losing direction guys?

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wunarmdscissor

no they arent ?

they are just our closest relatives but they are nowhere near as intelligent as us.

we create solutions to problems that they never could.

condoms is one.

long distance travel by aeroplanes is another.

a washing machine is another.

a computer is another.

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wunarmdscissor

no XAS i dont think we are. its along the same principle.

the church are claiming they shouldnt have sex as its bad for themn and condoms are unnatural.

but then the pope drives about in his car ?

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Iilaa'mpuul'xem

Throat operations the last Pope had is another?

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wunarmdscissor

all of the things i listed are bad for you ?

but we still do it?

why should we be allowed to do these and africans cannot have sex.?

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wunarmdscissor

as you see XAS im pointing out that something being unnatural is not automatically a bad thing.

Anyway it runs deeper.

its the church attempting to exert control as it always has done.

now the only place it can really do that is in africa becuase education levels are so low they are deprived of choice.

and the church bloody knows this.

so instead of helping them they perpetuate the misery which allows them to perpetuat the control.

thats my honest view.

ive never been a fan of the catholic church and im not much of a fan of religion in general.

but no other religion seems to want to put its members in quite so much risk as the papal one.

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SnakeProphet

how much technology do u use each day that is slowly killing you?

do u smoke?

do u drive?

do u live next to power lines?

do u own a microwave?

do u own a mobile phone?

do u use wireless internet access?

do u drink alcohol?

do u ever take drugs?

have u kissed anyone before?

have U had sex before?

do u ever eat fast food?

NO to most of them.

AIDS will kill you,no matter what you do.

Smoking will kill you,right.But I don t smoke anyway.

Driving won t kill you if you are a good driver.

Power lines didn t kill me so far.

Mobile phone the same.

Wireless internet access?

Alcohol doesn t kill you,but it s no good either.

Drugs=Smoking

Kissing.......Again I m not dead so far.

Sex.......What do you think?

Fast food...Same as kissing ,powerlines etc.

The difference is:

Things like power lines ,mobile phones etc don t kill you.They hurt you but they don t kill you.The effects are temporary,not permanent.

Edited by Snake_6024

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wunarmdscissor

so cancer is temporary is it?

mobile phones, wireless internet access , power lines, microwaves , car exhaust fumes , alchohol and the rest all have been found to cause cancer.

a disease like aids which kills you slowly.

caused in many cases by an indulgence in modern technology.

do we decry people with cancer and tell them its their own fault, they should move to the hills and live like pagans?

no.

so why should africans be treated in that way?

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Michelle

I wouldn't even bother, wun...

If you tell him any of the real facts he's going to argue with you anyway. rolleyes.gif

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wunarmdscissor

you never know he may see my point of view if i put it accross well enough.

i know im open minded enough to change my beleifs when presented with a well argued point.

i agree with you tho michelle it looks a lost cause.

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Iilaa'mpuul'xem

I fully agree with you wun, although some responsibility on the decision to use a condom should be with the lemmings that follow the popes every word, I thiink it is sad they listen to some old guy that is so far detached from reality it is unreal.

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wunarmdscissor

yeah but the point i made is that the reason its such a problem in africa is that the education is just not their.

thats why we dont listen to him and they do.

i mean how many western catholics follow the popes advice lol.

im willing to bet the percentage aint that high.

Hopefully teh Live 8 events and G8 summit marches will raise awareness and political change to such an extent that africans no longer are deproved of their basic rights. the right of choice.

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wunarmdscissor

yeah but the point i made is that the reason its such a problem in africa is that the education is just not their.

thats why we dont listen to him and they do.

i mean how many western catholics follow the popes advice lol.

im willing to bet the percentage aint that high.

Hopefully teh Live 8 events and G8 summit marches will raise awareness and political change to such an extent that africans no longer are deproved of their basic rights. the right of choice.

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