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The Chemtrails Conspiracy Theory

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Magikman

Lora,

   Yes, your initial impression was correct, this guy is a kook.  I know there's little chance to change your opinion, given that Billings has religious overtones, but I offer the following information to anyone else who might be interested. A warning, try not to expose yourself to all this information in one sitting, you will develop an incredible headache.:P After I've finished posting it, I plan on lying down for a while.

First, there is this;

http://educate-yourself.org/tgresponsetoba...ell26mar01.html

Next,

http://www.newsmakingnews.com/mclettertokurtbillings.htm

Finally, a coming together of many 'major' players, and the assorted claims and counter claims flung at each other,

http://www.newsmakingnews.com/vmcannonrussell3,22,01.htm

Billings also happens to run his own web site. So I don't appear to be unfairly biased, here is a link to it. Its interesting to note that he doesn't offer a list of academic credentials nor any detail of his educational background. Doesn't inspire much in the way of confidence in his capabilities;

http://www.psychops.com/

None of this may deal directly with the issues you bring up, although it certainly goes a long way to expose the lack of integrity and dependability one can expect from these self-described 'experts'. I'm not convinced these people can even tie their shoes, much less provide any credible 'proof' of the claims they make.

MAGIKMAN

Lora, it would probably be easier if you added the link you want people to see to your post, instead of putting it in your profile. :-/

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SpaceyKC

       Magikman,

    I'm sure it will have him stumped for quite awhile. :D

NORA

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Magikman

Nora,

  I don't know, I think you gave the secret away.  :P He didn't know about ebonics, so I figured he wouldn't have a clue about Pig Latin.:-/ Party pooper! :'(

Magikman :)

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odinsupreme

Well, Pig Latin... Magikman, I will give you the translation, in normal sentences..

Magikman kann sehr gut Deutsch, also kann er auch lesen was hier steht:

Zwischen zwei spitse Steinen sasen zwei tsischende Slangen...

When Magikman das hier in einmal aussprechen kann ist er sehr gut, aber ich denke nicht das er es schaft...

Magikman knows German very well, so he can also read what is written here:

Between two sharp stones were two (I don't know the English word, but it is the sound that snakes make) tsischen snakes

When Magikma can speak this out loud, he is very good. But I don't think that he can...

So Magikman, Now ready for a lesson Dutch?

Odin Supreme 8)

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odinsupreme

Oh, and for your Pig Latin:

Ownay ouyay avegay itway allway awayway! Iway onderway ifway ehay owsknay anyoneway atthay ancay anslatetray itway?

Now you gave it all away! I wonder if he knows anyone that can translate it? ;D

Odin Supreme 8)  

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Loraciel

Thank you , Magikman, for you links. I shall read them tonight when I have more time. I am not trying to start anything as I am new to bullitin board. but, I had a theory, and like all theories, it isn't proof, it's an idea. :)

I noticed that noone else has any idea why these chemtrails are here, but I myself can't stand NOT knowing about things that I am not suppose to know about.Doesn't anybody else have an idea?

Also, last Saturday, me and my neighbor, a 70 year old retired US Navy intelligence officer, watched the skies as over 30 planes left the skies with chemtrails that dropped crystalized material over our trees an grass. The summer the leaves were covered in a white powder after each rain and now those leaves a pitch black as if they had been burned by a blow torch. There is no where I can get answers here in Palmer so I go to the net for answers. When over 30 palnaes fly over head leaving these chemtrails a week after the most horrific scene I have ever seen, I wonder about the importance of so many planes flying over my head in place where there are no commerical airplanes or air force installations.

Anyway, I wait for answers, too. And as for my link, I did not know where else to post it. Now I do. Thank you, Magikman.

Loraciel

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Loraciel

Sorry about the repeat. I tried correcting my spelling. See, I don't know what I am doing. ;D

Loraciel

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reese92

Lora, just go back to the post you want to correct, and up on the right click on 'Modify'

    Reese :-*

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Magikman

Lora,

  I may have been a little harsh in my first reply, but your initial post seemed to be more a statement of supposed 'fact' than a theory or idea, the absurdity of the claim prompted the caustic remarks. It may not have been the warmest of 'welcomes', so I apologize for my rudeness.:-/

 Now, to the heart of the matter. I would like to know why you continue to refer to contrails as 'chem-trails'? Did you not check out the link that Tommy posted? Where is the proof of your suppositions? According to you, you have all the evidence you need to support your claims. What's stopping you from taking leaves off of your trees and having them tested by a professional botanist or plant specialist? Any nursery or garden center would be capable of diagnosing the problem, or you could even check with the university in Anchorage to see if they have the facilities to perform even more detailed tests. Its obvious your fear is so intense it's threatening the health of your child, this seems to be an easy task to accomplish in order to dissuade that feeling.

Getting back to the chem-trail 'theory'. If these aircraft are indeed unloading tons of 'chemicals' into the air, it is still occurring at an altitude of approx. 8 to 10 miles up. Even though you supposedly 'see' the dispersal of these chemicals, at that altitude and taking air currents into account, whatever it was that was 'dropped' will fall many, many miles away from the initial release point. So what you 'see' wouldn't affect you at all.

  I also have to question your contention about the flight of 30 planes and there being no military installations around you. The Elmendorf Air Force base is in Anchorage and Fairbanks has the Eielson Air Force base. I see Palmer sits almost in a direct line between the two bases. This is the first time you've ever seen a plane? I find that hard to believe, even for Alaska. As to the increase in aircraft traffic, I would tend to think that the jets are being used as added security along the Alaskan pipeline, but that's just an educated guess. Due to the vast expanse of the region and the vulnerability of the pipeline, a few well placed terrorist bombs could do much damage to the US economy and environment. Success isn't always measured in the amount of people you can kill. Or, it might just be a fact that the entire US military has been put on alert, and there has been a drastic increase in the level of activity. If your neighbor truly was in military 'intelligence', that wouldn't have been too difficult to figure out.

 Finally, a few thoughts to ponder. I'm not sure how 'new' you are to the internet and all the resources it provides. Much of it is very helpful, but it is also an environment inundated with kooks, crackpots, con-men, myth makers, schemers, pseudo-whatevers, and just plain crazy people, all with some kind of agenda. You really must be careful when viewing any websites and the information they provide. Just because its on the internet doesn't make it an undeniable 'fact', always look for collaborating evidence and accountability. Find out all you can about any particular subject, and never rely on the word of a single person. Especially those who deal in supposition, innuendo, and conspiracies. Their world is a maze of 'what ifs' and 'anything is possible', and they target peoples gullibility and lack of understanding. Ultimately you will decide what you want to believe, here's hoping common sense plays a roll in that determination.

MAGIKMAN

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Magikman

Odin,

 I see you found the pig latin translator. :)

 As to your question about the Dutch lesson;

Niet Nederlands wees zo goed. Germaan was vast voldoende voor vertalen, watertje op niet? :-/

MAGIKMAN :P

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odinsupreme

Tja Magikman, je Nederlands is niet zo goed. Als je did hier **** vertalen, zonder een zielige vertaalsite dan ben je goed in nederlands en kun je het beste docent worden om alle kindertjes in de gehele VS te onderwijzen. Het is hier nu 1 uur, nogal laat. Ik ga weer slapen, dus, HOIE!

Try to translate this Magikman!!!;D

Odin Supreme 8)

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Magikman

Odin,

 This is as far as I could get before the internal processor suffered a meltdown; :P

Now, Magikman, your Dutch is not so good. When you can translate without a pitiful ? then you are good at Dutch.

 Then there was something about a teacher and that it is past 1:00 in the morning by you, way past your bedtime. :D

Magikman

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odinsupreme

Well, that wasn't pityfull but "pathetic translater" hehehe ;)

What translator are you using anyway?

Odin Supreme 8)

And about my bedtime... ::)

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Magikman

Odin,

 Alta Vista has a decent one called BABBLE FISH, but I use a suite of translators, depending on the language. You can also download 'shareware' translators from several sites if you find you need easy access to them. That's another good feature that the google search engine provides, it will translate a web site page for you if it is in a different language. The results are pretty funny sometimes, but you get a sense of the contents.

Magikman

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PurpleStuart

Here is a news story about chemtrails - i haven't had time to read all this thread yet so i don't know if it has already been linked

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Homer

AAHHH!!!    PS, please say you didn't add the link, because if you have then I'm a complete moron, cuz' I don't see it.

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Althalus

A chemtrail is the white bit left behind by a plane after it has passed over.  Not all chemtrails stay around and most dissapate after about 1/2 hr.  The ones that do not disappear are the ones that have got people spooked, i don't know if anyone heard this but,

A school in Scotland recently had a plane go over them while all of the kids were out playing, the chemtrail fell down onto themand burnt them, putting quite a few of them in hospital.  

A letter was sent to the RAF base and to the local government offices, but both of these came back that nothing was in the area at the time, but everyone saw the plane.  

If anyone wants I will put up this info in more detail?

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Tommy

*lol*  :s2

Now now Homer, don't be so harsh on yourself!  I wouldn’t say you’re a "complete moron"  ::)  ;D  lol but run your mouse over the word ‘here’ on PS’s post.  :s03

Man did you leave yourself open for abuse on that one!  :s04 (lucky it was me replying to that!)  :D

Tommy  :s1

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PurpleStuart

;D

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Homer

Thanks Tommy,

The word "here" blended well with the rest of the sentence and I thought it was just part of the sentence. Of course, I would rather PS had forgotten the link, because now I know I'm a moron. It took me awhile to realize what everybody else already knew :s2

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PurpleStuart

Cheers,

I'm absent minded enough without someone prefering me to be forgetful!  :D

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Homer

;D Sorry PS, nothing personal  ;D

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PurpleStuart

;D

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Uranium_235

I wonder if they did this in canada becuase i had a HB shot a few years ago

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