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Ashley-Star*Child

Jackson Jurrors have reached Verdict

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AztecInca

Innocent until proven guilty!

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scipherel

It's not Michael and the kids.

Blame the hungry media people. OR

Michael's publicity stunts.

People with lots of money can play up with the law.

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Murdison
I think he is innocent and everybody should be more bothered about the real peado's out there instead of making a big deal out of him, just cos of who he is.

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At what degree do you class someone a peodifile?

If Mr average started to take young boy's back to his bed he'd get hung!.............. Money talks! yes.gif

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mystic meg

i think he did some of it, but not al of it

i think the truth has been exagerated a bit and little bits added in

but whether is is guilty or not, he is a screw head who needs serious help

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wunarmdscissor

he is DEFINITLEY guilty of having innappropriate relationships with kids and guilty of being a complete screw ball and in need of being sent to a loony bin .

ALthough im not so sure about the actual molestation. I ticked giulty though because hes admitted to sleeping in the same bed as kids on TV and anyone who does that with other peoples kids isnt right in the head , so therefore theres a much bigger chance he did it.

On balance yeah guilty of everythingt i think.

lock him up

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Ashley-Star*Child

Right, so showing pornography and endorsing masterbation is pedopilia is it? Wow, that would mean that every single teacher who has ever taught an underage student from primary school to high about sex education, edorsed masterbation and shown a video with sexual conduct as per the law of teaching sex eductaion is a pedophile.

Whether he did any of the above or not (and I personally don't believe he actually touched them physically in any way) if you compare it to what is taught in schools nowdays it just don't seem that bad. They tried to teach my younger sister sex ed in kindergarten, we pulled her out of the school. THAT is going too far, but I can tell you sex ed, complete with 'adult material' videos and endorsement of masterbation (in a Catholic school I might add) was taught from 5th class onwards, and in 5th class it was a male teacher. Oh and how to use condoms and IUD's etc. In 5th class ladies and gentlemen, 5th class. That would make me say oh, 9 years old (I started school a year early). Was he a pedophile too? And I was home-schooled from mid year 8th grade onwards, so I hate to think what else was taught in sex ed classes after that year. And I don't even believe in, nor practice pre-marital sex but I damn well know enough about it, and knowing all that was half the reason why. I have 10 year old cousins and their mother admits to them surfing porn sites. My brother was caught watching porn and reading pornographic material also at about age 10 with his friends all his own age. Who was playing pedophile with him, his other 10 year old friends? What the hell do you think boys talk about?!

Pedophilla, is NOT watching porn, it is physical RAPE of the body. THAT should be charged to the full extent. But as I've said, I don't believe he physically touched them.

And on top of that, if this kid HAD had the amount of alcohol he claims to have had - with one kidney - he would have passed out and/or need to be taken to a hospital. They have already discussed this flaw in his statements, and even those against Michael Jackson agree that is just one of the many inconsistencies in all of their statements.

On top of that, if he actually was a homosexual pedophile (as they are claiming) he wouldn't be reading magazines AND visiting porn sites with girls on them, he'd be watching homosexual material and/or sick child sex stuff, again, most probably involving boys, not girls. Not that I'm putting homosexual material in that same category, watching that is fine if that's what you choose to do if you're gay, and it's involving adults. They choose to be in pornographic videos. But at the end of that day, he still didn't do that. He allegedly watched women, which like I said before, is normal male behaviour.

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Shakezulah

i voted guilty. the man is a sick twsited freak and needs to be locked up soon. i dont care wether its in prison or in a mental hospital. just SOMEWHERE. hes not right in the head and he has serious problems. anyone who thinks its ok to sleep with little boys does!

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_hAiLO_

I think the boy is lying....

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Murdison
I think the boy is lying....

there tongue.gif

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*As he gets up to practice his moonwalk on the kitchen floor* Owwwww!!!

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Angelvalley

1/2000 According to the accuser's mother's sworn statement to the SBPD, the mother contacts an attorney and investigator in order to find out information about Michael Jackson with a view toward making a settlement with him

?/2000 Accuser's family files $3 million lawsuit against JC Penney, alleging store security guards beat them badly and caused broken bones

summer/2000 Fritz Coleman meets the accusing family through the Laugh Factory summer camp, notes the boy, his brother and sister were all "vivacious performers"

7/2000 Accuser has cancer surgery at Kaiser Permanente and has his kidney, spleen, and a 16-pound tumor removed (Mid Valley News article)

8/2000 Accusing family actually meets Jackson for the first time

9/6/2000 Date of a DVD containing a film of Jackson and the accuser that the accuser's mother gave to Tom Sneddon in 11/2003

10/2000 The accuser's Laugh Factory friends learn he is diagnosed with cancer and hold three fund-raisers to help with medical costs; Jackson holds a blood drive for the accuser at Neverland; Jaimie Masada later tells the Santa Barbara News-Press, "Anything we raised we gave directly to the hospital, except for a couple of checks I wrote myself, which was for her apartment." (12/2/04 article)

Why, if they were insured?

11/29/2000 Article appears in the Mid Valley News of El Monte, CA, in which accuser's mother solicits money for her son's cancer treatments, saying, according to editor Connie Keenan, "her son needed all sorts of medical care and they had no financial means to provide it"; the mother tells the paper, "Our car has been repossessed" and "One chemotherapy injection costs more than $12,000"

Why, if they were insured?

12/2000 Fritz Coleman and Laugh Factory summer camp colleagues buy "hundreds of dollars" of video games and other toys for Christmas for the accusers; according to Coleman, "They had to reach certain poverty requirements to get into the program, and the dad was unemployed"

10/2001 Accuser's mother files for divorce from his father and claims father was abusive; father is investigated by Los Angeles Department of Children & Family Services (DCFS); according to State of California Health and Welfare Agency Report, mother claims to police officers that "Kobe Bryant, Fritz Coleman, Michael Jackson and other celebrities are helping her"

10/2001 Los Angeles police officers Diane Reyes and Edward Moreno notice the accuser and his brother hanging around the Union Station mezzanine on a school day and are told that they and their sister are on the way to Kaiser Hospital in Hollywood (Note that they still have Kaiser insurance a year later.) to visit their mother, who is having surgery that day; the officers drive the children to the hospital and on the way, the accuser reveals he is in remission from cancer and shows them the scar from surgery "the previous March" (MTA article)

Is this date just a mistake on the part of the writer? The Mid Valley News article said the surgery was in July 2000.

11/2001 JC Penney settles with the accuser's family for $137,500

11/2001 Accuser's mother tells the Los Angeles Police Department that she saw her husband inappropriately touching her daughter when she was 3 or 4 years old; the report states, "The victim was emotionally distraught during this interview and could not provide any other pertinent information regarding this incident"; mother also alleges that the father's abuse of her included "head injuries, holding her head under water, making her stand outside naked, and throwing (her) little dog against a wall", and that when the father was released from jail, an unknown man outside her apartment threatened "that if she did not shut up, her children would not see her again and she would be killed."

Head injuries and death threats?

2001 Accuser's father pleads nolo contendere to charges of spousal abuse

12/2001 LAPD Officer Diane Reyes notices the accuser's mother making her way on crutches through a station on her way to a job interview

12/20/2001 Officers Reyes and Moreno drop by the family's apartment to find a Christmas tree that had been donated by the LAPD's Hollenbeck Division officers, but no ornaments or gifts; the officers buy ornaments for the family

12/21/2001 At morning roll call, Reyes and Moreno's sergeant, Eric Windham, asks his troops for money for the accusing family, and they raise $200 for gifts for the kids and a holiday dinner; the Metropolitan Transportation Authority also contributes school supplies for the children

2002 Accuser's father is charged with four counts of child cruelty and one count of each of the following: injuring a child, false imprisonment, and making a threat; father pleads nolo contendere to one count of child cruelty, other charges are dismissed

He went down awfully quickly in late 2001. I wonder why?

For some people that has never been molested you wouldn't understand what's going on and you would think that this boy is telling the truth, but I can speak for alot of molestation vitims when I say this is is no vitim a liier maybe bbut vitim? Not by a long shot!!!!

If you where molested or rapped you will remember every waking monet of it, form the time it started to the and day that it stopped!!!! And your story would never change no matter how many time that you told it!!!!!!

This boy's story is different from both his sister and the witness that saw it his younger brother. Why is that? I know that if you've been molested you would remember everything!!!!!!!!! No if's and "s or butt's about it!!!!

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Ashley-Star*Child
For some people that has never been molested you wouldn't understand what's going on and you would think that this boy is telling the truth, but I can speak for alot of molestation vitims when I say this is is no vitim a liier maybe bbut vitim? Not by a long shot!!!!

If you where molested or rapped you will remember every waking monet of it, form the time it started to the and day that it stopped!!!! And your story would never change no matter how many time that you told it!!!!!!

This boy's story is different from both his sister and the witness that saw it his younger brother. Why is that? I know that if you've been molested you would remember everything!!!!!!!!! No if's and "s or butt's about it!!!!

Exactly.

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_hAiLO_
*As he gets up to practice his moonwalk on the kitchen floor*  Owwwww!!!

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You got the moves of the Kind of Pop! *sips tea* Owwwww!!

For some people that has never been molested...

Exactly.

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You know...I had a feeling something like this is somewhat true.

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tigger

its true.. if you have been molested or in any kind of sexual assault.. the story wouldnt change, and you definitely wouldnt be cuddled up to your attacker during an interview would you?

its all a load of crap which is intended to extort as much money out of michael jackson as possible. the family are all a bunch of liers.

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moe eubleck

Dear Mr. jackson,

For a large sum of cash, Moe will sit on your lap and call you daddy. We will not even take you to court afterwards. No need to thank us.

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aztecking6010

i believe that jacko did it. To me its just denial for alot of people , If it was a normal guy, no one would evn suspect that he DIDNT do it , but since we saw him as a child ,a pop starred teenager, a father, a weird freak , and now a washed up shmuck, we want to believe that we havent been fulled for the past 30 yrs. And besides, if i said one of your idols was a very very very very bad man like micheal is, you would deny it until you die from exasperation

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Disinterested

I'm not sure whether he's innocent or guilty... but I am leaning towards innocent. No one denies that he's got serious issues, but that doesn't make him a pedophile. I think he's just got a completely different reality than most adults do.

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Nxt2Hvn

I think he is probably innocent... but he is still a freak... and not in a good way... if you know what I mean! wink2.giftongue.gif

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moe eubleck

Moe does not care either way. Moe does not blame Mike. We blame the parents for letting their children sleep over at a supspected pedophile's house.

Note to idiots: SLUMBER PARTIES WITH MICHAEL JACKSON ARE BAD.

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The Skeptic Eric Raven

Doesn't much matter either way. He put himself in compromising positions with underage boys. He will be considered guilty. The parents should be put in jail to. They let there children stay unattended with a middleaged man. That is just stupid. They did it because Michael gave them gifts and free trips. Good way to pimp out your kids. thumbsup.gif Idiot people. angry.gif

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moe eubleck

Indeed and Moe is sure that Michael has many more such positions to experiment with..

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forgotfel
he is DEFINITLEY guilty of having innappropriate relationships with kids and guilty of being a complete screw ball  and in need of being sent to a loony bin .

ALthough im not so sure about the actual molestation.  I ticked giulty though because hes admitted to sleeping in the same bed as kids on TV and anyone who does that with other peoples kids isnt right in the head , so therefore theres a much bigger chance he did it.

On balance yeah guilty of everythingt i think.

lock him up

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I agree with this. I think the inappropriate relatioships cannot be argued. The only argument there is arguing what an inappropriate relationship is. I consider the relationship he had with those kids inappropriate.

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moe eubleck

well yes but thier parents can now afford the therapy. not to mention new houses and cars..

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Walken

I'm not sure if anyone read it today. Gavin reportedly confessed that Michale Jackson did not touch him in any way sexually to his teacher.

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ForRizzle

Guilty as hell. Should be dragged out into the street by small children and spat upon. Then shot. How dare he pray on and target sick abused children. Of course he didnt admit anything to his teacher. It was right after the Bashir documentary, he was getting tormented in school by the other kids making fun of him, his dad was beating him. Abused children rarely admit to anything prior to coming out. Cetrainly not to some school teacher!

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