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PARIS (AFP) - Demanding "Marriage, Adoption, and Equality," hundreds of thousands of gays marched through European capitals, in festive "Gay Pride" parades focused this year on same-sex marriages.

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While Athens held its first parade in modern times with just a few hundreds marching through the Greek capital, Paris seemed to have the highest turnout with organizers estimating some 700,000 taking to the streets to watch or march and police about 300,000.

"During the (French) revolution, the oppressed people fought to abolish privileges," said Estelle Haury, wearing a pink version of the cap of liberty worn by the "sans-culottes" who overthrew the monarchy in 1789.

"We are fighting for homosexual couples to be allowed to adopt, get married, and have the same rights as others," said Haury.

Dozens of floats, including the Brazilian green and yellow painted "Transpower" group, advanced through a steaming Paris, fired by techno, drums and whistles.

At 4:00 pm sharp, the procession came to a standstill as the participants observed three minutes of silence in memory of     AIDS victims.

Every day in France four homosexuals discover they are     HIV-positive, organizers said, warning of a new dramatic rise in HIV infections, particularly in the male gay community.

Heading the parade was Paris Mayor Bertrand Delanoe, one of France's few avowed homosexual politicians, along with socialist and green party leaders.

Delanoe urged parliament to pass a law allowing gay couples in France to marry.

"We must legislate, because without a law, nothing will change," Delanoe said.

The law allowing gay marriage in Spain, including the right to adopt children, was passed earlier this year by the lower house of the Spanish parliament but still needs the approval of the senate.

The measure incited gay groups in other European countries to push for similar legislation, while at the same time sparking protests by religious and conservative groups opposed to gay marriage.

Marriage and adoption was also a key theme in Lisbon, where a few dozen members of the gay community began to march under the rallying cry: "Let us respect the constitution: No to homophobia!"

According to the organizers, Portugal is the only European country whose constitution "explicitly forbids discrimination based on sexual orientation."

Portuguese media have reported anti-homosexual incidents, including in the city of Viseu, where in March groups of young people raided gay bars to harass homosexuals.

Homophobia was visible in Athens, where far right-wing groups distributed anti-gay leaflets as organizers prepared for Greece's first Gay Pride parade under the slogan: "Love and life deserve respect."

"Many Greek homosexuals still hide in a society that tolerates us, but does not accept us," said Marianella Kolka, an organizer, who brought a mask with her in case television cameras were to film the parade.

Only 400 people turned up for the march toward parliament, chanting "Openly and Proudly," and "We are all transvestites!"

No public figures were expected at the event, which was to turn into an open-air techno party in downtown Athens.

"This has got to change, we can't live like in the 1950s," said a 44-year-old photographer, Evangelia Vlami, of the Homosexual Community of Greece (Olke).

The "Chistopher Street Day" parade also kicked off in Berlin, with 59 floats and 25,000 participants according to organizers, and 5,000 according to the police. All told, some 400,000 people packed the streets as the parade went by, the organizers said.

The capital's homosexual mayor, Klaus Wowereit, and federal Agriculture Minister Renate Kuenast took part in the parade, which Wowereit called "a show of strength for equality."

Source-Yahoo News

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Damn right they should be allowed to marry and to adopt children; more power to them.

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To get married i have no problems with ,but to adopt children i have,dont start bashing me as i have said my reasons for on another thread,bash me there

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Marrying should be allowed. But adopting children shouldn't; imagine if your step-parents were gay?

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Marrying should be allowed. But adopting children shouldn't; imagine if your step-parents were gay?

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There is a thread some where on the board Galor about gays wanting to adopt,you should put your point accross on it thumbsup.gif

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Yes.. let them marry, I have no objections at all about this however the Catholic Church would never accept it but who cares there weddings go on and on and on... big bore.

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The Catholic church's views about women haven't changed much since the 16th century ... but that's a discussion for somewhere else ...

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they should definatley not be allowed to adopt. thats completely unfair on the kid.

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Sould it really matter if parents are of the same sex if they love the child?

All the more power to homosexuals.

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Is it really fair to give a straight kid to a gay couple that will raise him/her? Kids are the great imitators and minds like sponges, so you would basically be forcing a straight kid to be gay. Last time I checked gay are against trying to force someone or something to believe what they are not. (note the big uprising of gays during the gay penguins thing)

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Well to me marriage is a union committing to creating family life! I have gay friends - I don't condone it - I just dont voice it! Doesnt stop me thinking they are great people tho. I definately think a loving committed relationship is always better than a married hetro couple cheating on each other.

So yeah - should be their choice - I just feel it defiles the point of marriage, but I accept that is my opinion and isnt necessarily the correct one.

Two of the same sex cannot procreate naturally and therefore should not have children (imo)

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They should be allowed to marry, adopting children is a completly different story, but in a democratic society they should be given the right to marry, its their choice and what right do we have to judge them and stop them for doing so.

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Fox Mulder, would you clarify why?

I just think it is un-natural and not the way children should be raised. Mothers and Fathers bring very different things to a growing child and i think deliberatly neglecting a child of either a mother or a father shouldn't be legal.

Do you see what i mean? They will miss out on so much. I realise that the children of single parent families turn out fine, but really don't think gay couples should be allowed to adopt kids-> not to mention the torture the kid is going to face when his two fathers or mothers show up to parent teacher night. Other kids will rip him to shreds.

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so you would basically be forcing a straight kid to be gay.

Don't be utterly ridiculous...

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Snake, I believe you have chosen the wrong animal for your user name huh.gif You've gone a little to much in the direction or reptile...might I petition that you change your username to Parrot_6024, in order to better suit your posting habits?

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Snake, I believe you have chosen the wrong animal for your user name You've gone a little to much in the direction or reptile...might I petition that you change your username to Parrot_6024, in order to better suit your posting habits?

Really?So how does my argument differ from yours?

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Well, if you want to get into it...I was pointing out how ridiculous an arguement that the obvious implication that homosexuality is somehow contagious is, in the year 2005. Children, impressionable as they may be, are not likely to spontaniously develope a sexuality that goes against their makeup. By that arguement, no homosexuals would ever have been born to straight parents, because they'd all have taken on their parents "staight ways" by observation.

You, on the other hand, decided to mimic me, because it's about as close as you'll ever get to greatness tongue.gif

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Well, if you want to get into it...I was pointing out how ridiculous an arguement that the obvious implication that homosexuality is somehow contagious is, in the year 2005. Children, impressionable as they may be, are not likely to spontaniously develope a sexuality that goes against their makeup. By that arguement, no homosexuals would ever have been born to straight parents, because they'd all have taken on their parents "staight ways" by observation.

You, on the other hand, decided to mimic me, because it's about as close as you'll ever get to greatness

Actually that's all I wanted.Instead of constantly calling people rediculous you should better provide an argument,so it can be refuted.

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Constantly? huh.gif Parrot, you've been on the boards for about the length of a humming bird's heartbeat, during most of which I've been doing things offline, and interaction between the two of us has been sparing at best. How you're in any way qualified to estimate what I "constantly" do I'm not entirerly sure...suffice to say, you saw an opportunity to try and be a smart ass, and thought you'd take it.

You see Parrot, I see no reason whatsoever to elaborate on stating why the belief that homosexuality is contagious is ridiculous. I would imagine that any intelligent human being who isn't living somewhere in the middle of last century would agree with that assessment. In fact, I'd say that "ridiculous" is a fairly kind word to use when refering to that particular school of thought.

But not for you Parrot tongue.gif Oh no tongue.gif Not for you.

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Constantly? Parrot, you've been on the boards for about the length of a humming bird's heartbeat, during most of which I've been doing things offline, and interaction between the two of us has been sparing at best. How you're in any way qualified to estimate what I "constantly" do I'm not entirerly sure...suffice to say, you saw an opportunity to try and be a smart ass, and thought you'd take it.

You see Parrot, I see no reason whatsoever to elaborate on stating why the belief that homosexuality is contagious is ridiculous. I would imagine that any intelligent human being who isn't living somewhere in the middle of last century would agree with that assessment. In fact, I'd say that "ridiculous" is a fairly kind word to use when refering to that particular school of thought.

But not for you Parrot Oh no Not for you.

You think you're funny or something?

With constantly I was reffering to my dealings with you up until now.

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You think you're funny or something?

Yes. Yes I do.

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