On the trail of a skyscape mystery

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Are the skies being illicitly contaminated with a mysterious substance that may have serious effects on people's health? One Cuddington man thinks so and is on a mission to find the truth.

Phil Morris, 50, is gravely concerned with what he perceives to be happening to the atmosphere in the North West and across the world.

View: Full Article | Source: IC Cheshire Online

[echo6]

Here in Marin (bay area, near san francisco) we have the highest Cancer rate in the whole country, its a bit of a mystery as its currently unknow why. But after reading this article it makes sense as we receive heavy low flying traffic from SFO(san san francisco airport) and oakland/san jose departing/arriving flights.

and yes flights tend to avoid overflying San franisco city but not marin as its mainly forested areas.

[smallpackage]

Probably the US's slow NWO taking place.

[ImAnAlienWa8iD]

maybe it's something for the ozone layer? maybe it's helping the ozone but then cause mild side affects in humans. weather control? fight against global warming? or just steam from the engines, something that occurs naturally when jets fly at high altitude?

[Essan]

ROFLMAO!

Perhaps this bloke might like to ask himself why not a single meteorologist in his area (and I happen to know several) has noted anything odd whatsoever?

There have een plenty of days this year when the skies over his house have been clear. But as he['s close to major connurbations, and there are numerous flight paths over the area, pollution and contrails are an inevitable, regular, occurence. And that's all he's seeing - along with cirrostratus spreading in ahead of frontal systems.

[Nirwana]

There IS definitely a difference between normal trails and the so called chemtrails, I know there's many smart ppl around here so if someone could explain that it would be nice.

BTW I also have sinus symptoms most of the year and It didn't used to be like that, strange..

[The Raven]

"Contrail: n : an artificial cloud created by an aircraft; caused either by condensation due to the reduction in air pressure above the wing surface or by water vapor in the engine exhaust" -Dictionary.com

I just learned about Chemtrails tonight. I was looking for pictures of my city and found a website dedicated to recording chemtrails in my city with photographs. I do admit I see an unusually high amount of air traffic in this area, and all are military and high enough to leave contrails.

After about 2 hours of researching this, I have fully explained the chemtrails and military aircraft in my area, and I bet this can apply to many other areas, too.

The Brunswick Naval Air Base in my State [Now being closed by the BRAC commitee] is fairly close to most of the large cities in the state, including my own. Every day I see atleast 1 contrail, but most days I see 5 or more, a lot of the time in a row or crisscrossing patterns described by this "Chemtrail" hypothesis.

There are only really two commmerical air ports in the state that have passenger jets, so the rest are military. Military craft are constantly patrolling and flying around this area, since many planes come through here from around the nation going to Europe. A couple time I've seen the military craft flying as low as about 700-1000 feet above the ground; close enough for me to be able to make out the marking on the plane with the naked eye and it still be crusing.

Now, these planes are all from the Brunswick base. After doing a bit of research and talking, I have found out they are P-3 Orions that fly over the areas patrolling almost every single day. This plane is capable of flying at altitudes to easily create a contrail, and they sure do [Ceiling: 28,300 feet] -- as well as flying low. One of their purposes, from a Navy Fact File: "surveillance of the battlespace, either at sea or over land. Its long range and long loiter time have proved invaluable assets during Operation Iraqi Freedom"

The contrails created by the P-3 Orion that I have seen in real life are identical to the Chemtrails that have been in over 50 pictures I have seen of my city and others. Since a contrail itself is just moisture created by the engines acting with the enviroment at certain altitudes, they essentially create a cloud, or contrail. These usually disperse quickly, but I have seen them blowing about like a cloud and then thinning to form wispy clouds for hours before vanishing. This is identical to a chemtrail, and is in fact just a contrail.

The other pictures I have seen of air craft from around the world spraying "Chemtrails" look much like the P-3 Orion that is common in my area. Since it probably has the same purpose, and most are recorded around large or important cities that would have a military base within 1/10th this plane's range in miles, it is reasonable to assume that the P-3 Orion and planes like it create contrails while on patrols that then dissapate into what is known as a chemtrail under the right circumstances. No conspiracy, no NWO, just military patrolling.

Another quick thing to note is that the P-3 Orion has openings in the back that are like what the chemtrail believer say the chemicals are poured from, but it does not have spraying capabilities and the holes are meant for sensors, etc.

I hope this debunks chemtrails once and for all, because although I believed for about 10 minutes, I proved myself wrong. This base these P-3's come from is closing down, and is the only one for a long ways. If the military air traffic doesn't decrease and I still see P-3's, then I'll get scared.

Edited September 3, 2005 by The Raven

[Essan]

There IS definitely a difference between normal trails and the so called chemtrails, I know there's many smart ppl around here so if someone could explain that it would be nice.

BTW I also have sinus symptoms most of the year and It didn't used to be like that, strange..

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As an amateur meteorologist with friends at the UK Met Office and in other meteorological organisations, I can assure you that the only difference between contrails and chemtrails is that the later are only seen by suceptible people who believe any silly nonsense they read on the internet.

The exception, obviously, being crop dusting and the occasional cloud seeding experiments - neither of which occur in the UK.

[ImAnAlienWa8iD]

I think its just the water vapor thing that happens naturally. I agree with what you said Essan.

[LobsterMan]

i think there are too many crazy old men on this planet who are desperate for attention