N Ireland stun England in Belfast

[Scar]

Hook line and sinker

Poor wee leaf, seems we're all out to get you

Don't get yer knickers in a twist, we know we're sh!t at football, perhaps that may change but for now we're content to turn up and enjoy ourselves.

England are always favourites to win the World cup, quite rightly so with some fine players as you listed. But even with English managers you always fall from grace and guys like you get wound up to no end, which brings us to the reason why we started this thread........

Hehehe

[Blackleaf]

And a few days ago England failed to beat Ulster... whats your point

Except that Northern Ireland are a professional team with full-time players, whereas the Faroe Islands are just part-timers and they have a population of just a few thousand.

And I beleive Norway is around 36.. so your moaning on that Scotland beating them is embrassing, while England couldn't even beat the team ranked 116th .... hmmmm

If Scotland are to progress from their pathetic position of being ranked only about 69th in the world and want to move up the world ranking, then you will have to beat teams like Norway. If you all keep thinking that you can never beat teams like Norway because they are ranked higher than you, then you'll never advance further up the world rankings.

Edited September 17, 2005 by Blackleaf

[Blackleaf]

Much like when England beating Australia in cricket, its so rare you needed to post it in World Affairs 

Well said

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Well, it's not really, is it? I mean, be honest. Australia beating England is a rare event. England had 2 wins in the Ashes Series, Australia only had one, and we beat you about 3 or 4 times in the one-day games before the Ashes.

There's now more chance of someone spotting a dodo then there is of Australia beating England.

But the Aussies are so blinded by arrogance that they can't see it.

Edited September 17, 2005 by Blackleaf

[Boff]

Lmao, this thread is hilarious.

Shame about Wales....still love em though . Goodjob Scotland and Ireland .

GG blackleaf

Edited September 17, 2005 by Boff

[Talon]

My point is that whilst you mock England for losing against Northern Ireland, you forget that Scotland couldn't beat the Faroe Islands which is a country far smaller than Northern Ireland and the players are only part-timers. So that's worse!

Its you who claims to be a better team. So actually its worse that England lost. Scotland fans don't post daily rants about how France sucks and Scotland rules in the threads, we never claimed to be the best and never will, so why should we care when it turns out we're not the best. You however do post daily rants about how France sucks and England is the best, I can understand therefore how you are taking it really hard to find out your not.

We won it in 1966. Scotland's never won it. We also won the 2003 rugby World Cup, and also were the 1991 losing finalists.

Yes, and you've never learned how to stop talking about how you're your grandparents (not you!) one the cup and you've never been able to win it since.

How do I embarrass you? What have I done? I'm not the one who started this thread to mock the England football team, so how have I embarrassed you?

Actually the whole point of this thread was to show that despite you daily racist rants about how superior English people are in sports (or anything else for that matter), you couldn't take anyone doing the reverse.... and all we did was prove it. You Blackleaf can sure dish-out, but you don't have thick enough skin to take it.

This thread was never about England, it was all about you.

If Scotland are to progress from their pathetic position of being ranked only about 69th in the world and want to move up the world ranking, then you will have to beat teams like Norway. If you all keep thinking that you can never beat teams like Norway because they are ranked higher than you, then you'll never advance further up the world rankings.

Your calling us pathetic? You lost to the team ranked 116th when you claim to be 7th. So what if we lost to a team ranked 120th years ago, we're only 69th, we unlike yourself don't claim to be the greatest in the Universe all the time.

...and btw, we did beat Norway.

[wunarmdscissor]

We are the 3rd favourites to win it, and with players like Rooney, Beckham and Lampard, it's not hard to see why

on who's odds lol.

as i saw it england dropped out of the top 10 in the latest rankings???

now thats some awesome mathematics your doing their blackleaf??

you still dont get it though do you blackleaf.

you see we arent arrogant we know we're rotten but thats not the point of this thread lol the whole point of the thread was to point out that you can dish it out and cant take it.

you nothing but a big wean , and youve spat the dummy big time.

[gollum]

Blackleaf, git it rite up yeh..........

[indeed]

Well, it's not really, is it? I mean, be honest. Australia beating England is a rare event.

What rock have you been living under all these years

But the Aussies are so blinded by arrogance that they can't see it.

Sounds alot like Englands delusions of grandeur

[Blackleaf]

We are the 3rd favourites to win it, and with players like Rooney, Beckham and Lampard, it's not hard to see why

on who's odds lol.

as i saw it england dropped out of the top 10 in the latest rankings???

now thats some awesome mathematics your doing their blackleaf??

you still dont get it though do you blackleaf.

you see we arent arrogant we know we're rotten but thats not the point of this thread lol the whole point of the thread was to point out that you can dish it out and cant take it.

you nothing but a big wean , and youve spat the dummy big time.

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You obviously don't have a clue what you're talking about. England might have dropped out of the top 10 in the world rankings, but that isn't any indication of the odds of winning a World Cup.

England arethe 3rd favourites to win the World Cup after only Brazil and Argentina.

England are still ranked higher in the world rankings than countries such as Germany and Italy.

[Blackleaf]

What rock have you been living under all these years  

If anyone's living under a rock, it's you. You've obviously haven't heard that the Ashes has just been held, and England WON it - 2-1. That means we won 2 games, and Australia only won 1.

Then cast your mind back to before the Ashes, when England played TWO Natwest Series against Australia and I think England won them both. And before that, the Australia cricket team had failed to beat England in about 6 attempts.

Australia, remember, LOST against Somerset, and in the Natwest series that England won, Australia LOST against Bangladesh who are the lowest-ranked team in the world.

So Australia beating England is a rare event.

Sounds alot like Englands delusions of grandeur  

We're the holders of the Ashes beating Australia (again), and I think will win the 2007 World Cup in the same year that our rugby team wins the World Cup.

We have the best cricket team in the world. If Australians think that their team, full of players who are so old they play games using zimmer frames and lose against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe, are the best in the world, then they have delusions of grandeur.

It's hypocritical all these arrogant Aussies coming into this thread making fun of the England football team losing against Northern Ireland when their cricket team gets flayed alive by Bangladesh.

Edited September 17, 2005 by Blackleaf

[wunarmdscissor]

ok please tell me how being 11th in the world translates to being 3rd favourite to win the world cup , other than english based bookies letting their hearts rule their heads versus FIFA's official ranking based solely on results???

[wunarmdscissor]

and of course your above germany lol, they arent even in the middle of a qualifying campaign , why would they be gaining points?

[wunarmdscissor]

but of course you know that with your wealth of knowledge dont you??

[Blackleaf]

ok please tell me how being 11th in the world translates to being 3rd favourite to win the world cup , other than english based bookies letting their hearts rule their heads versus FIFA's official ranking based solely on results???

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Are you saying that the odds on winning the World Cup should coincide with the World Rankings?

So if Scotland qualify for the World Cup, they will be the 69th favourites to win the World Cup even though there'll be only about 32 teams playing in the competition.

[Blackleaf]

The Aussies on this thread seemed to have forgotten this -

Bangladesh humble sorry Australia

NatWest Series, Cardiff:

Bangladesh 250-5 beat Australia 249-5 by five wickets

Bangladesh pulled off perhaps the biggest shock ever in cricket with a five-wicket victory over world champions Australia in Cardiff.

Mohammad Ashraful's brilliant 100 laid the foundations for the win, while Aftab Ahmed and Mohammad Rafique held their nerve to score the winning runs.

The defeat was a setback for Australia, and their third loss on tour.

The Aussies had hit 249-5 after winning the toss and batting first on a surface that gradually became easier to bat on.

Ashraful's amazing century - just the second by a Bangladesh batsman in a one-day international - came at exactly a run-a-ball and set up a thrilling conclusion.

But his departure - caught at long on by Brad Hogg off Jason Gillespie - left 23 needed off 17 balls and an out-of-sorts Australia were back in the game.

Then Aftab and Rafique brilliantly took Bangladesh past the winning post.

As the tension mounted, a brilliant six by Aftab off Gillespie from the first ball of the final over brought the scores level.

And a scrambled single off the next delivery sealed a fairytale victory with four balls to spare.

The win was only Bangladesh's 10th win in 108 one-day internationals, although they beat India at home in January this year to show they should not be regarded as total write-offs.

Baisya was taken for a few runs but claimed three wickets

That had been their best win in one-day cricket since famously beating Pakistan in the 1999 World Cup - which led to them being awarded Test status a year later.

But this win - against the World Cup winners of 1999 and 2003 - represents the pinnacle of Bangladesh's achievements in one-day internationals.

Australia, having already lost to England in the Twenty20 international and against Somerset, were well short of their best.

A series of clumsy fielding errors characterised a poor Australia performance, with an embarrassing misjudgement by Gillespie at fine leg one of the most glaring examples.

Symonds axed after 'rule breach'

They were also missing Brett Lee (shoulder) and all-rounder Andrew Symonds, who was said to be suffering from flu but was then revealed to be under investigation for a possible breach of team rules.

The first Australian wicket came with the second delivery of the match after skipper Ricky Ponting elected to bat.

Adam Gilchrist played back to Mashrafe Mortaza, missed and was given lbw, although replays suggested height was an issue.

But there was no doubting Ponting's dismissal as he missed a dead straight ball from Tapash Baisya, to also fall leg before.

Matthew Hayden was given a life on 30 when he was caught off a no-ball, but had added just seven more when chopping Nazmul Hossain onto his stumps in the 16th over to leave the score 57-3.

His departure forced Damien Martyn and Michael Clarke to play in watchful fashion.

Martyn seemed to have settled Aussie nerves with a patient innings

But when the last 10 overs began a few risks had to be taken and a wicket eventually came when Martyn was caught by the sweeper on the point fence off Baisya.

Clarke became Baisya's third victim when picking out extra cover and it was left to Simon Katich and Michael Hussey to garner what they could from the final few overs.

Bangladesh's run chase did not start well and when Javed Omar was caught at point the score was 72-3 in the 21st over.

That dismissal looked to end any faint hopes Bangladesh had of a result, but the fourth-wicket partnership between Ashraful and captain Habibul Bashar turned the game on its head.

This is the greatest day yet in the history of Bangladesh cricket; a stunning victory.

From Paul

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Ashraful was particularly harsh on Glenn McGrath, spanking him for two fours over extra cover in one over and Australia wilted as the duo added 130 in 23 overs.

news.bbc.co.uk

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At least the Northern Ireland football team aren't ranked bottom in the world.

[wunarmdscissor]

Are you saying that the odds on winning the World Cup should coincide with the World Rankings?

So if Scotland qualify for the World Cup, they will be the 69th favourites to win the World Cup even though there'll be only about 32 teams playing in the competition

no of course i amnt but you tell me how many of the top ten are odds on to qualify , i would say most of the top ten easly , ten of which that are currently in better form than england . using logic that actually makes sense then you would see that its just sheer arrogance by english bookies that puts them at third favourites.

[wunarmdscissor]

blackleaf you are hilarious.

cant you see what a total joke your making of yourself.

this entire thread was engineered to make you look like this and its succeeded in spectacular fashion.

[wunarmdscissor]

just looking at the top ten just now i would say all of them will qualify.

remember england arent even leading their group.

[Essan]

Fifa World rankings and the World Cup Odds are completely different things.

I really can't believe you're arguing over it!

[indeed]

This just gets better and better

We have the best cricket team in the world.

Who is ranked number one in the world at this point in time ???

So you won the Ashes, full props you did play better than us this series

But just winning one series doesn't make you the best in the world

Keep it up Blackleaf, im getting a laugh out of this

Also can you tell me what nationality Rod Marsh is ?? You know the person employed to get the English cricket team back up to a point where they could win.

[Essan]

Hmm, I see you can get odds of 10,000/ 1 on Scotland winning

[wunarmdscissor]

So you won the Ashes, full props you did play better than us this series

blackleaf see thats a wee thing called graciousnes in defeat

youd do well to check out exaclt what that means.

[wunarmdscissor]

this thread isnt about scotland.

and we arent so arrogant to ever believe we could win the world cup.

[Blackleaf]

Are you saying that the odds on winning the World Cup should coincide with the World Rankings?

So if Scotland qualify for the World Cup, they will be the 69th favourites to win the World Cup even though there'll be only about 32 teams playing in the competition

no of course i amnt but you tell me how many of the top ten are odds on to qualify , i would say most of the top ten easly , ten of which that are currently in better form than england . using logic that actually makes sense then you would see that its just sheer arrogance by english bookies that puts them at third favourites.

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In fact, it's looking good for England next year.

They are the 3rd favourites after Brazil and Argentina, but none of those two will win it, because only ONCE has any of those two countries won the World Cup outside of South America.

Of the European teams, England are the favourites and they always seem to do well in tournaments that are held in a year that ends in 6 - 1966, 1986, and Euro 96.

Edited September 17, 2005 by Blackleaf

[Blackleaf]

So you won the Ashes, full props you did play better than us this series

blackleaf see thats a wee thing called graciousnes in defeat

youd do well to check out exaclt what that means.

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What are you going on about? "Graciousness" in defeat?

I never mentioned the England game until this thread was posted, and there's nothing more annoying than a bunch of Aussies gloating over England losing to Northern Ireland when their cricket teams gets slaughtered by Bangladesh.