Yelekiah Posted September 11, 2005 #76 Share Posted September 11, 2005 (edited) Are you talking about this image Yelekiah? Image from Mars-Earth.com They just mirrored one side of the "face", that makes it look symmetrical - not it's natural appearance. The original, unaltered (just contrast enhanced) image doesnt look symmetrical at all, it's just; rocky stuff. I dont think there is a face on mars. I also think that those "pyramids" may be natural formations and the lighting creates an illusion. That little dome anomaly looks *crowd gasp* fake! * crowd * . 836708[/snapback] No I was referring to an article not that specific image. Is the "Face on Mars" a natural formation, or was it the work of something else? Discovered by the Viking mission in 1976, and reimaged by the Mars Global Surveyor, the controversy continues on whether the Face is a geologic landform or an artificial structure. The "Face" is approximately one mile long, is very symmetrical... Also this was in Newfrontiersincience.com Analysis of Mars Odyssey THEMIS Imagery of the "D&M Pyramid" Mark J. Carlotto In April 2002 the Thermal Emission Imaging System (THEMIS) aboard the Mars Odyssey spacecraft acquired a 19 meter/pixel visible image over a region in Cydonia containing the Face, D&M Pyramid, and the eastern portion of the City. This new image provides the first fully illuminated view of the D&M Pyramid — a faceted landform south of the Face first imaged by Viking in 1976. The new THEMIS image shows the D&M Pyramid is a highly symmetrical object with striking similarities to other objects in Cydonia. The presence of two highly symmetrical objects — the Face and the D&M Pyramid — with completely different morphologies, less than 20 km apart, suggests the possibility that this collection of objects could be the eroded remains of ancient artificial structures on the Martian surface. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ancient Shoreline in Cydonia Mark Carlotto (markjc@mindspring.com) An analysis of a recent THEMIS multispectral image (20020724A.gif) acquired by the Mars Odyssey spacecraft over Cydonia provides further evidence that an ocean once existed to the north, and that the features known as the City and Face are located along what was once its shoreline. It is shown that there are three spectrally distinct regions that are spatially correlated with MOLA-derived elevation data. One region is correlated with the higher terrain to the south, another with the low-lying plains to the north, and a third with a transition zone between the two. From its topography, relationships to the terrain to the north and south, spectral characteristics, and morphology of its features, it is conjectured that this transition zone was once the shoreline. The City, Face, and D&M Pyramid all lie in this zone. As either shoreline features, or even possibly islands, their proximity to water provides a possible explanation for how these once-symmetrical structures could have been transformed into their present, collapsed and highly eroded, state. Edited September 11, 2005 by Yelekiah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellar Posted September 11, 2005 #77 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Yes I'm serious. Read it. It sais "investigation", and then talks about the JPL conference. It doesnt say the investigation is conducted by JPL or anything, it simply says that in the conference, JPL showed a picture with a blue sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuantumE Posted September 11, 2005 Author #78 Share Posted September 11, 2005 (edited) Yes I'm serious. Read it. It sais "investigation", and then talks about the JPL conference. It doesnt say the investigation is conducted by JPL or anything, it simply says that in the conference, JPL showed a picture with a blue sky. 837486[/snapback] "Investigation shows that there are several indications that the NASA is tampering with the colors, and changes them from an Earth-like environment into a red inhospitable environment. But it seems that the young scientists at Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) are not convenient with this. Due to their investigation. Edited September 11, 2005 by QuantumE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellar Posted September 11, 2005 #79 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Yes I'm serious. Read it. It sais "investigation", and then talks about the JPL conference. It doesnt say the investigation is conducted by JPL or anything, it simply says that in the conference, JPL showed a picture with a blue sky. 837486[/snapback] "Investigation shows that there are several indications that the NASA is tampering with the colors, and changes them from an Earth-like environment into a red inhospitable environment. But it seems that the young scientists at Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) are not convenient with this. Due to their investigation. 837516[/snapback] No, not due to their investigation, and not due to the websites investigation. The website did the investigation you speak of, and says that JPL (he believes) is not convenient with color tampering because they show a picture with a blue sky in one of their conferences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuantumE Posted September 11, 2005 Author #80 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Yes I'm serious. Read it. It sais "investigation", and then talks about the JPL conference. It doesnt say the investigation is conducted by JPL or anything, it simply says that in the conference, JPL showed a picture with a blue sky. 837486[/snapback] "Investigation shows that there are several indications that the NASA is tampering with the colors, and changes them from an Earth-like environment into a red inhospitable environment. But it seems that the young scientists at Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) are not convenient with this. Due to their investigation. 837516[/snapback] No, not due to their investigation, and not due to the websites investigation. The website did the investigation you speak of, and says that JPL (he believes) is not convenient with color tampering because they show a picture with a blue sky in one of their conferences. 837593[/snapback] Quote Stellar "No, not due to their investigation, and not due to the websites investigation. The website did the investigation " huh? I say no more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBunker Posted September 11, 2005 #81 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Forget about Hoaglands pseudo science,Cydonia,alien artifacts and focus on reality for a wile. http://www.universetoday.com/am/publish/fr...rs.html?2222005 http://www.universetoday.com/am/publish/ro...rt.html?1532005 http://www.universetoday.com/am/publish/ma...ve.html?1732005 http://science.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/ast12mar98_1.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yelekiah Posted September 11, 2005 #82 Share Posted September 11, 2005 What if all that was reality? Anyway, nice articles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Posted September 11, 2005 #83 Share Posted September 11, 2005 ^Them four links are real, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellar Posted September 11, 2005 #84 Share Posted September 11, 2005 "No, not due to their investigation, and not due to the websites investigation. The website did the investigation " I meant that its not due to their (JPL's) investigation on the colours because JPL didnt do that investigation thats being talked about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallpackage Posted September 11, 2005 #85 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Yes I'm serious. Read it. It sais "investigation", and then talks about the JPL conference. It doesnt say the investigation is conducted by JPL or anything, it simply says that in the conference, JPL showed a picture with a blue sky. 837486[/snapback] "Investigation shows that there are several indications that the NASA is tampering with the colors, and changes them from an Earth-like environment into a red inhospitable environment. But it seems that the young scientists at Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) are not convenient with this. Due to their investigation. 837516[/snapback] No, not due to their investigation, and not due to the websites investigation. The website did the investigation you speak of, and says that JPL (he believes) is not convenient with color tampering because they show a picture with a blue sky in one of their conferences. 837593[/snapback] Quote Stellar "No, not due to their investigation, and not due to the websites investigation. The website did the investigation " huh? I say no more... 837634[/snapback] You got to love Stellars lack of capability to 'step down'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yelekiah Posted September 11, 2005 #86 Share Posted September 11, 2005 LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuantumE Posted September 11, 2005 Author #87 Share Posted September 11, 2005 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moomooman Posted September 12, 2005 #88 Share Posted September 12, 2005 well right now on the front page of UM there was an article that said mars sand could contain up to 50% snow and ice. so maybe they were changing the colors. personally i dont really care that much, they're still telling us mostly everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizno Posted September 13, 2005 #89 Share Posted September 13, 2005 Look at the article QuantumE posted earlier in this thread. The high-resolution photograph, not the original. High-res shows symmetry. 836562[/snapback] Is this the link you mean? http://www.mars-earth.com/newface.htm The picture of the face is split in two and two new pictures are created. One of the new pictures was made by mirroring the left half and the other picture was made by mirroring the right half. Of course both pictures are perfectly symmetrical. There's no way they could be assymetrical. The two new pictures look very different from each other, which is proof that the original face is not symmetrical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizno Posted September 13, 2005 #90 Share Posted September 13, 2005 (edited) Furthermore, the author points to a "headdress" on the left photo. It's not there on the right photo. The "nose" on the left photo curls way up and looks nothing like a human nose, no matter how stylized. The "nose" on the right photo looks very different than the "nose" on the left photo. Final edit: I've been having browser troubles and didn't see the other posts addressing this issue. Sorry for covering old ground. Edited September 13, 2005 by blizno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Slayer Posted September 13, 2005 #91 Share Posted September 13, 2005 The myth about Cydonia should once and for all be put in the grave. Nothing but human mind's interpretation lies behind the illusion of the "Face". You see what you want to see, remember that. As for the "Pyramids", they don't look enough like ones for me to believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yelekiah Posted September 14, 2005 #92 Share Posted September 14, 2005 Look at the article QuantumE posted earlier in this thread. The high-resolution photograph, not the original. High-res shows symmetry. 836562[/snapback] Is this the link you mean? http://www.mars-earth.com/newface.htm The picture of the face is split in two and two new pictures are created. 841935[/snapback] When I said original, I meant the 1976 version. I'm not talking about the mirrored image( the picture is on the top and on other sites). I posted this earlier where I was referring to what scientist said were "symmetrical". Please look at my post with the article. I think you overlooked it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Posted September 14, 2005 #93 Share Posted September 14, 2005 It really isn't as symmetrical as you say it is. http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/extend...proc_50perc.gif All of the contours on the left side are nothing like the ones on the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yelekiah Posted September 14, 2005 #94 Share Posted September 14, 2005 Scientists speculate it's erosion. They say there is a basic symmetry, not a perfect one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essan Posted September 14, 2005 #95 Share Posted September 14, 2005 The 'face' is no more symetrical than many natural features on Earth are. Likewise the so-called 'pyramids' - which bear an uncanny resemblance to............................................................................hills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conspiracy Posted September 14, 2005 #96 Share Posted September 14, 2005 The 'face' is no more symetrical than many natural features on Earth are. Likewise the so-called 'pyramids' - which bear an uncanny resemblance to............................................................................hills 843206[/snapback] ya but it seems that the sides are a bit slanted like a pyramid :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yelekiah Posted September 14, 2005 #97 Share Posted September 14, 2005 And despite erosion, hills don't usually look like this. The rover Spirit photographed this. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mycommon/200...21R0M1-greg.jpg That is one pointy, slanted hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essan Posted September 14, 2005 #98 Share Posted September 14, 2005 Is this a pyramid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yelekiah Posted September 14, 2005 #99 Share Posted September 14, 2005 I wasn't trying to be nasty. It's that it isn't a hill according to scientists who've studied it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essan Posted September 14, 2005 #100 Share Posted September 14, 2005 Suilven must have been built by martians...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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