John F kennedy, The Truth

[MID]

That helps thanx. If the body was illegally movde from dallas to washington i cant understand y they got away with it by the public. I know that yes it is the government and everything but come on illlaglly moving the body, getting sumone who as u say by a non specialist. How can the warren report come to the conclusion that harvey killed kennedy when such shady things went on.

Am not saying im knowledgable about this subject but im dying to understand everything i can.

Another question is saying lee harvey did kill kennedy is it possible for him to get from the book depository to the street where he killedtippet the police officer in 35 minutes while walkin?

The public was in utter shock. The general public has little idea regarding legal jurisdictions, and no one in the general public, then, or today for the most part, knew that the murder of a president was not a Federal Crime (it is today...it wasn't in 1963). They also didn't have any idea about the argument that ensued at Parkland Hospital between the Secret Service and the Dallas County Coroner regarding the removal of the body prior to medical-legal autopsy. A nation in shock could've cared less about these mundanities

This was the President of the United States. To most people, it seemed utterly logical that the body would be returned to Washington.

Explaining how the Warren Commission came up with their conclusions is a long story. A very long story, which hinges on the creation of an implausible theory of a single bullet causing all of the wounds to President Kennedy's back and neck and also all the wounds to Governor Connally. Again, the general public knew nothing about these things, and logically accepted the Commission's assertions as coming from un-biased expert investigators. They were not.

As to the Oswald question:

No it would not be physically possible for him to get from the TSBD building to the location where Tippit was killed in 35 minutes by foot. Oswald by all accounts took a bus from just up the street from the Depository Building, then a cab the rest of the way to his rooming house in the Oak Cliff section of Dallas. From there, he allegedly walked to the location where Tippit was killed.

As to the non-specialist I mentioned, I should say that the general public probably has, and certainly had no concern for the difference between a pathologist and a forensic pathologist. The man who conducted the autopsy at Bethesda Naval Hosptital was not a Forensic expert, and the autopsy report pretty clearly shows that fact. The Dallas County Coroner was a Forensic expert, and his results would've been much better from a medical-legal standpoint. They also would've likely been very clear, and much different.

[MichaelL1986]

Regarding Guy Bannister and the guy with the fit, refer to the other Kennedy asassination thread where I recommended some reading for you and asked you some questions about the latter issue.

Reagrding the grassy knoll shot...this is one of the many insisted upon "red herrings" of the Kennedy case. I cannot speak for the FBI or CIA, but I too would deny that any shots were fired from the grassy knoll, and most certainly not the shot that killed the President.

You'd actually have to be there in that very spot, as I have been, to see that such a notion is almost ludicrous. The position was, despite the picket fence that's still there, completely exposed, and anyone standing there that day (just feet from where Abraham Zapruder filmed the asassination) would've been instantly seen by anyone in the vicinity. there isn't anything substantial indicating that anyone was there and fired a rifle, quite frankly.

Besides that, the angle of the shot would've been almost directly abeam of the president, and the shot would've propelled him into his wife...sideways.

I think the prevalent position regarding Ruby's killing of Oswald is that he did so to silence Oswald. I cannot say whether this silence was needed to protect the FBI or CIA. I personally feel that lee Oswald was well aware that he had been set up as a patsy. I also feel quite strongly that Oswald knew who Ruby was, and vice versa, and that Ruby took him out in order to prevent Oswald from revealing the situation. It seems rather apparent that Ruby had other knowledge about the situation that he wasn't willing to speak about unless the Warren Commission would take him out of Dallas and to Washington. They of course refused to do that, inexplicably. Ruby never spoke as a result, only making statements that the truth would never be known.

Yes, I for one think that Ruby had a very big part to play in all of this.

Regards.

So u dont think that a shot was fired from the garssy knoll.

If that is the case y do so many "witnesses" say that they heard shot from that area?surely if a few people are saying that then there must b sum truth behind it because they wouldnt have got 2fgether and just made it up.

[MichaelL1986]

The public was in utter shock. The general public has little idea regarding legal jurisdictions, and no one in the general public, then, or today for the most part, knew that the murder of a president was not a Federal Crime (it is today...it wasn't in 1963). They also didn't have any idea about the argument that ensued at Parkland Hospital between the Secret Service and the Dallas County Coroner regarding the removal of the body prior to medical-legal autopsy. A nation in shock could've cared less about these mundanities

This was the President of the United States. To most people, it seemed utterly logical that the body would be returned to Washington.

Explaining how the Warren Commission came up with their conclusions is a long story. A very long story, which hinges on the creation of an implausible theory of a single bullet causing all of the wounds to President Kennedy's back and neck and also all the wounds to Governor Connally. Again, the general public knew nothing about these things, and logically accepted the Commission's assertions as coming from un-biased expert investigators. They were not.

As to the Oswald question:

No it would not be physically possible for him to get from the TSBD building to the location where Tippit was killed in 35 minutes by foot. Oswald by all accounts took a bus from just up the street from the Depository Building, then a cab the rest of the way to his rooming house in the Oak Cliff section of Dallas. From there, he allegedly walked to the location where Tippit was killed.

As to the non-specialist I mentioned, I should say that the general public probably has, and certainly had no concern for the difference between a pathologist and a forensic pathologist. The man who conducted the autopsy at Bethesda Naval Hosptital was not a Forensic expert, and the autopsy report pretty clearly shows that fact. The Dallas County Coroner was a Forensic expert, and his results would've been much better from a medical-legal standpoint. They also would've likely been very clear, and much different.

About the theory of the single bullet. i was watching a documentary on the assassination of kennedy and it said that facts from the film about the magic bullet was incorrect. Because the film says that governor connolly was sitting directly opposite kennedy and that they were sitting at the same height. When infact governor connolly was sittig 7 inches to the left on kennedy and kennedy was sitting taller than connolly. Therfore it is possible that the single bullet went through kennedy neck and into the wrsit of connolly. Or that was im lead to beleive judging by the documentary.

[MID]

So u dont think that a shot was fired from the garssy knoll.

If that is the case y do so many "witnesses" say that they heard shot from that area?surely if a few people are saying that then there must b sum truth behind it because they wouldnt have got 2fgether and just made it up.

This is a complex issue...as is everything in this case.

Many people said they thought they heard a shot or shots coming from the knoll area. Many people looked immediately in the direction of the TSBD, or up the street toward the Dal Tex building... some looked all around. It was mass confusion for a good reason.

Acoustically, the area of JFK's assassination (Dealey Plaza) is a nightmare. It is bordered by tall buildings and heavy concrete structures on three sides. It's also a rather small area (photographs make it look much larger than it actually is). A shot coming from the triple underpass area would rapidly echo off of the buildings on the East side of the square, and two rapid reports would be heard, causing people to look in various directions. Multiple shots, which there were, could sound like they were definitely coming from various directions, and one shot might produce a report from the opposite direction that was very convincing. There is little doubt that such acoustic effects were manifest that day in Dallas.

However, the knoll would be the least likely place for a sniper to position himself. Sure, it was plenty close to the target, but it's wide open. No one could've possibly been standing there with a rifle and not have been seen, and then fired a shot and remained oblivious. If you stand there, you will see, despite the buildup that's taken place in that area in the decades since, that such a person would not have been hidden, and would definitely have been seen escaping by someone.

Snipers station themselves in hiding. The window of a building, in a man hole...like the one that used to be in the sidewalk at the far East end of Elm Street, etc. would be excellent locations. But the knoll would not be. And, given the fact that some people ran right up there and saw nothing or no one, within seconds of the shooting, seems to indicate no one was there shooting. Of course, it is a certainty that no shot from that location struck anyone, or anything. The left side of the President's head would have been blown out...not the right rear.

Now, could a shot have been fired from that location? Yes, it could've. If it was, it hit no-one, and no one saw anyone there. I think the truth is that people thought they heard a shot from that location, but nothing more can be said about it, since there's no evidence whatsoever to prove it.

Regards.

[MID]

About the theory of the single bullet. i was watching a documentary on the assassination of kennedy and it said that facts from the film about the magic bullet was incorrect. Because the film says that governor connolly was sitting directly opposite kennedy and that they were sitting at the same height. When infact governor connolly was sittig 7 inches to the left on kennedy and kennedy was sitting taller than connolly. Therfore it is possible that the single bullet went through kennedy neck and into the wrsit of connolly. Or that was im lead to beleive judging by the documentary.

Alot of crappy "documentaries" have been put out regarding this case. Especially as pertains to the "magic bullet", many people have simply created evidence to show that it was possible for this bullet to have done all it was said to have done.

However, the best evidence clearly shows that Kennedy was already reacting to a shot that had struck him in the neck and or back. Either a fragment of a bullet had come through his neck from a rear shot, or a bullet had hit him in the throat from the front, and Connally was several seconds from reacting to the bullet that would hit him.

The idea that this pristine bullet with virtually no material missing from it hit Kennedy, then struck the Governor, hitting his ribs, splintering his wrist, and then lodging in his theigh is ludicrous. More material from the actual bullet was removed from the Governor than is missing from this "magic" bullet, and more was left embedded in his leg (i.e., not removed during surgery) than is missing from this bullet. It is therefore impossible from this standpoint alone that this single bullet caused all that damage. It would be a magic bullet indeed. The actual proof that this bullet did not cause all that damage is still buried in the former Governor's leg!

As to the trajectory of the bullet, the Governor was in fact sitting slightly lower than was Kennedy. He was also leaning to his right, and was turned to look back. Of course, Kennedy does not react as the Governor is obviously hit, which sort of throws the simultaneous wounding of both men to the wolves, but the fact is that a bullet striking Kennedy and then Connally would've had to make a bit of a right turn before hitting the Governor in his right back...a physical impossibility.

You'd be stunned at how many implausible theories have been conconcted to prove that this magic bullet was indeed magic. None of it holds much water in the face of the facts.

The real tragedy of this is that the real best evidence in this case lies in a grave in Arlington Cemetary. That, and the fact that this body has bever been exhumed and examined by qualified Forensic Pathologists is truly ridiculous and a travesty of justice. Qualified specialists in the field could make solid determinations, even now, despite the fact that the body would be grossly decomposed. Until and if that is ever actually done, the actual nature of Kennedy's wounds will remain as it is today, speculative and unknown.

Regards.

[MichaelL1986]

MID i thought the same thing about the bullet hitting them both at one time cos as u say kennedy does react to a shot which hit his throat and when this happens u clearly see the governor turning around and looking at the president. which clearly shows nuhin happened to him in the first shot. i understand wot u saying bout the grassy knoll theory which is now cool in my mind.

And as for digging up the presidents body i guess when all the evidence has to legally come out in 65 years from the time (if that still is the case knwing the gorvernment they will probably try and keep it under wraps for life) then maybe the answers to our questions will all b answered. If i was in america and it was my president that was shot and i cared pastionatly and wanted to know the honest truth i would fight fight and fight until the body was exhumed and autopsyed by a experienced autopsy person.

How come u know so much about this topic ??

[MID]

MID i thought the same thing about the bullet hitting them both at one time cos as u say kennedy does react to a shot which hit his throat and when this happens u clearly see the governor turning around and looking at the president. which clearly shows nuhin happened to him in the first shot. i understand wot u saying bout the grassy knoll theory which is now cool in my mind.

And as for digging up the presidents body i guess when all the evidence has to legally come out in 65 years from the time (if that still is the case knwing the gorvernment they will probably try and keep it under wraps for life) then maybe the answers to our questions will all b answered. If i was in america and it was my president that was shot and i cared pastionatly and wanted to know the honest truth i would fight fight and fight until the body was exhumed and autopsyed by a experienced autopsy person.

How come u know so much about this topic ??

You know, that part you mention is a difficult thing.

By the Governor's own account, Kennedy was apparently hit before him. He said he turned to his right, reacting to something he heard, and as he was turning back, he felt something hit him. Yet, in the film, it seems he spasmodically reacts almost as if he was hit at the very moment that Kennedy is hit. It almost looks as if he was hit right there.

But I have a different idea pertaining to Kennedy's reaction in that moment. I am not so sure he was actually hit in the throat, although it's possible. I feel somewhat strongly that he was reacting spasmodically to being hit in the back. The arm raising gesture would seem to be indicative of the shock of being hit in the upper central back...like a strong blow. He may have been knocked out of breath and we must remember that Kennedy had pain in his back (and wore a binding corset-type of brace at all times), which would've probably resulted in a severe painful spasm, that of course in addition to the pain of having a bullet in him...

Although it is distinctly possible that some sort of bullet hit him in the throat, the wound observed there could also have been the result of a substantial fragment of the lower rear head shot that exited that area of his body...

See how difficult this is? We simply don't know for sure, because the medical-legal reports are conflicting, and of course the official version describes something extremely dubious, if not patently fabricated.

I do not think anything new will come to light from any information that is still being withheld. The information is in a grave. And believe me, attampts have been made to get an exhumation ordered, all of which have been thwarted for some reason or another. That in itself is a travesty.

It's a long road which may never end in our lifetimes anyway.

It's no big deal knowing something about this. About 15 years of study of all the materials available, the "official" documents and the work of certain researchers (and believe me all of the researchers haven't contributed to much that is really tangible) results in knowing something.

Unfortunately, all I actually know is that the official line is impossible. What the "real story" is can be conjectured, but as of this time, nothing definitive can be said. There's plenty of substantial items pointing in a certain direction, but the final story is a ways off from being brought to light.

It is, as I've said, an extremely complex topic.

Regards.

Edited December 5, 2005 by MID

[Rosemary Campbell]

There's always going to be debate over who killed J.F.K., but we are never gonna know. It's like all of those shows about Loch Ness or Bigfoot and how they say they have new evidence or whaveter proving he exists, but when you watch the show, they just repeat all the facts and don't come up with anything conclusive.

When I wrote on here about the Truth Behind the Kennedy Assassination I am saying I got this Version as a Psychic Channel from the Victims who died and are now in the Spirit World and this is why this is the absolute truth and they want you and everyone in the World to know they are the ones giving us this Truth.

Also in the Spirit World as part of this story telling is the Keeper of the Akaskic Records where every deed good and bad ever carried out by any human on Earth is recorded so when we die and go to the After Life God and the keeper of the Records runs our sins past us and this is how we are dealt with on our Judgement Day.

Everything that you or I or anyone does from the day we land on Earth as Babies until the day we die is recorded in God's book of Life's Records and this is the book that is mentioned in the Bible where he records our deeds both good and bad.

It doesn't matter what religion you are or whether you believe in God or not you still live and die and have your Life's actions recorded in that book and nothing can change the deed once its entered in that book and the truth and History never changes.

This writing is being done through Automatic Writing as those beyond the Veil of death join me each time I get on the Keyboard and write through me and this is why there is no punctuation in the copy unless I go back and change it because this is how Automatic Writing works I sit at the keyboard with those in the After Life and whatever they want to write just flows through my fingertips and onto the paper.

I have never published this Story because every Manuscript I have ever sent out over the past 20 years disappears without a trace.

[Rosemary Campbell]

Thanx but that not what i am getting there was a entry suggesting the bodyguard shot him, but im saying that cant b possible. I say it cant b possible because if the bodyguard shot him then kennedy would have as u say went forward and to the left. What i am getting at is the fact that yes there must have been a shot fired from infront of him because of the fact kennedy goes back and to the left once he has been shot.

MID u r quiet knowegable about this can i maybe get ur emial add to ask further questions that is confusing me about all this

regards

In a Replay of that day shown to me by the Akaskic Records I saw the boxes piled in front of the window in the Book Depository and the Rifle resting on the top of the boxes as Oswald waited for the Motorcade and then I saw Clint Hill the Secret Service man look towards the window in the Book Depository and lift his left hand and signal Oswald that its time to shoot.

I was told that Jack Ruby was hired to go to the Jail and silence Oswald that day when he shot him.

Oswald before that shot the Dallas Policeman who is believed to be a Hero to silence him because he in fact was part of the team.

No one has ever solved the situation because one of the reasons it was silenced I believe is on investigation it was learned that Robert f. Kennedy the U.S. Attorney General and the Brother of the President Masterminded the Assassination and Clint Hill, the Secret Service man and Rufus Youngblood, Lyndon Johnsons Secret Service man were both blackmailed into participating because they were set up by Robert F. Kennedy (a Bisexual, and te Presidents brother who lured them into a sexual situation with himself and others and this is why they had to participate or be exposed and lose their careers and be outed in front of their family and the World.

Did J. Edgar Hoover know about it?

And did he get Robert F. Kennedy out of the Justice Department and keep his mouth shut on that in order to save the United States from World Humiliation?

Robert F. Kennedy as Attorney General and using Mob Girl Judith Campbell as a go between between he and the various mafias, some corrupt CIA, and a few Corrupt FBI people loyal to the Mob was able to set up this Assassination against his own Brother.

After Robert F. Kennedy resigned as Attorney General he followed his lady love Jackie off to new York where they continued to carry on the adulterous affair that they started years ago in the White House.

Back in the White House it was a free swinging sexual freedom kind of life and many people swam in the white house pool and many people had reasons to keep their mouths shut after the Assassination because many careers were at stake.

Now that's the real truth and if you think about it these things happen in families all the time and brothers have always murdered brothers over women.

Once after I sent this out a Political Cartoon appeared in a well known paper and a U.S. Senator was depiicted in it and he said RFK Did it and to me this said everyone knows RFK did it and this is why references to Cane and ABel have been made to this situation since I began sending this Story out back int he Eighties.

So that's the Story in a Nutshell, Mystery solved as told to me by the Book of Life in Heaven.

Edited December 10, 2005 by Rosemary Campbell

[MID]

When I wrote on here about the Truth Behind the Kennedy Assassination I am saying I got this Version as a Psychic Channel from the Victims who died and are now in the Spirit World and this is why this is the absolute truth and they want you and everyone in the World to know they are the ones giving us this Truth.

This writing is being done through Automatic Writing as those beyond the Veil of death join me each time I get on the Keyboard and write through me and this is why there is no punctuation in the copy unless I go back and change it because this is how Automatic Writing works I sit at the keyboard with those in the After Life and whatever they want to write just flows through my fingertips and onto the paper.

I have never published this Story because every Manuscript I have ever sent out over the past 20 years disappears without a trace.

And as I had indicated, there is no strangeness that all of your manuscripts 'dissapeared without a trace'. For reasons previously stated, and, as you should realize, because if your manucripts were submitted to anyone in the format of this "automatic writing" (sans punctuation, proof-reading, proper manuscript format, and spelling checks), they would be rejected hands down, and likely tossed in the "circular file".

As I also indicated, you can publish anything you want, in any form you want, on the Internet (although it will be difficult to read, which of course will generate little from people in the form of attention span...). But perhaps what you're saying is that even your copies of your own "manuscripts" have disappeared mysteriously?

In a Replay of that day shown to me by the Akaskic Records I saw the boxes piled in front of the window in the Book Depository and the Rifle resting on the top of the boxes as Oswald waited for the Motorcade and then I saw Clint Hill the Secret Service man look towards the window in the Book Depository and lift his left hand and signal Oswald that its time to shoot.

I was told that Jack Ruby was hired to go to the Jail and silence Oswald that day when he shot him.

Oswald before that shot the Dallas Policeman who is believed to be a Hero to silence him because he in fact was part of the team.

No one has ever solved the situation because one of the reasons it was silenced I believe is on investigation it was learned that Robert f. Kennedy the U.S. Attorney General and the Brother of the President Masterminded the Assassination and Clint Hill, the Secret Service man and Rufus Youngblood, Lyndon Johnsons Secret Service man were both blackmailed into participating because they were set up by Robert F. Kennedy (a Bisexual, and te Presidents brother who lured them into a sexual situation with himself and others and this is why they had to participate or be exposed and lose their careers and be outed in front of their family and the World.

Did J. Edgar Hoover know about it?

And did he get Robert F. Kennedy out of the Justice Department and keep his mouth shut on that in order to save the United States from World Humiliation?

Robert F. Kennedy as Attorney General and using Mob Girl Judith Campbell as a go between between he and the various mafias, some corrupt CIA, and a few Corrupt FBI people loyal to the Mob was able to set up this Assassination against his own Brother.

After Robert F. Kennedy resigned as Attorney General he followed his lady love Jackie off to new York where they continued to carry on the adulterous affair that they started years ago in the White House.

Back in the White House it was a free swinging sexual freedom kind of life and many people swam in the white house pool and many people had reasons to keep their mouths shut after the Assassination because many careers were at stake.

Now that's the real truth and if you think about it these things happen in families all the time and brothers have always murdered brothers over women.

Once after I sent this out a Political Cartoon appeared in a well known paper and a U.S. Senator was depiicted in it and he said RFK Did it and to me this said everyone knows RFK did it and this is why references to Cane and ABel have been made to this situation since I began sending this Story out back int he Eighties.

So that's the Story in a Nutshell, Mystery solved as told to me by the Book of Life in Heaven.

Great, so the Akaskic Records and various beings in the spirit world have closed the case.

This is absolutely fantastic, save just a few salient points.

Everything you say here has been brought up before--largely silly embellishments of people who want to be heard.

Lots of people saw boxes piled up in front of the TSDB window in question. Some even claim to have seen a rifle.

Unfortunately, Clint Hill never looked at that window and raised his hand as if to say "Go, ahead, shoot!". This is ludicrous and appears on no films of the event...but if it appeared to you in an Akaskic vision, so be it. I suppose we'll have to accept this fantasm.

Just as we should accept the idiocy that "bi-sexual" Bob Kennedy killed his brother.

Curiously, you ask, "Did J. Edgar Hoover know about it?"

Having all of these visions and playbacks from the spirit world, and having solved the case as you have, WHY WOULD YOU ASK SUCH A QUESTION? You have to know the answer to that too.

Or, do you really? I mean, after all, your next sentence indicates that Hoover apparently got RFK out of the Justice Department (?). How could Hoover have done so, since Bob Kennedy was IN CHARGE OF THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND WAS HOOVER'S BOSS?

But I think I have discovered the truth.

You see, in this particular post, you give yourself away. You use punctuation and actually construct sentences. This therefore cannot be "Automatic Writing", and thus, those beyond the "veil of death" cannot have accompanied you on this message. These must be your opinions exclusively. Thus, with absolutely nothing to back them up (no spirits, etc.), we simply cannot accept this.

It matters to Marilyn who is very much alive in Spirit in the Spirit World and she reads all these things written about her and she definitely wants the World to know who is behind her Murder.

When people die and others say they committed Suicide when they didn't it takes them longer to adjust to their life in the Spirit World.

Marilyn was just another woman sucked in by the Charms of both Robert F. Kennedy and his rother John F. Kennedy.

They were just too cheating average Husbands who wanted to play and not pay,and they wanted to keep it all Hush Hush to protect their careers and keep their wives from leaving them,and when Mrilyn began to make jealous girlfriend noises she had to be gotten rid of.

Presient John F. Kennedy who was a Player much like President Clinton got tired of Marilyn's threats to go public,and destroy the Kennedy Political Careers she had to be taken care of.

And so it was handled Kenedy Family Style,and it was John F. Kennedys job to go off to Vegas and elicit the help of his old friend Frank Sinatra who introduced him to Mob Girl Judity Exner who was his connection to the Chicago mob, nd she and Sam Giancanna, nd other members of the mafia put the plan into action.

After Marilyn died JFK took up with Mob Girl Judith Exner,and soon Jackie knew that while she went along with Johns plan to get rid of Marilyn she now had another problem in the form of Judith Exner, and if that had become known the publicity would have been much worse than linking JFK to a Hollydood Star.

When it became time to dispose of JFK it was Judith Exner who stepped in again to assist in helping to arrange the Mob hit on JFK because she was fed up with him now because he had moved on to a blond who is now carrying his baby.

Later that Blonde was murdered in Washington.

These are the True Facts because they came to me from those who died,and now live on in the Spirit World and the true facts also w ere backed up by the Keeper o the Akaskic Records in Heaven where everything we all do in our everyday Lives from birth to death is recorded and its known as the Akaskic Records or Book of Life.

One day when we die God will pull out those records and everyone goes over all these things with him.

So, let's see.

JFK spoke to you. He appeared smiling to you and gave you the whole scoop.

And Marilyn Monroe did too. She gave you the whole dirt on Bob and Jack Kennedy and how they killed her through JFKs hook ups with the Mob.

And Jackie was in on this murder too, and supported her husbands plan to kill Monroe...

And Bob arranged the murder of his brother, and Bob was also having an affair with Jackie all that time, and apparently was also having bi-sexual liasons with Clint Hill and Rufus Youngblood, blackmailing these two Secret Service Agents into participating in the assassination of his brother...

Do you have any idea what you sound like?

But please, by all means, continue to comment. It provides relief to the rather sinister and depressing nature of the subject matter.

Regards...

[Rosemary Campbell]

Jesus....

Are you serious? Intersting story, certainly, but honestly....JFK killed Monroe? With Frank Sinatra and Sam Giancana, huh? JFK was playing with Marilyn, then he and Jacqueline plotted to killed her? JFK and Judith Campbell...and Jackie, and Robert and Judith Campbell; and Robert and Jacqueline--and JFK Junior was actually Robert's son (he looked just like Bobby!)?

Jeez, didn't Teddy get any of this action?

You should outline this and write fantasy for a living.

And while you're at it, try to explain what any of this has to do with the Assassination of the President of the United States in November 1963...

That might be a really good thing to try...when you get done concocting rubbish that makes soap operas look like serious television.

...my Christ.

This Story is absolutely true and it was given to me by the Victims, and the plotters who are very much alive in the Spirit World and they choose to clear this up so they can find peace in the After Life.

[Rosemary Campbell]

And as I had indicated, there is no strangeness that all of your manuscripts 'dissapeared without a trace'. For reasons previously stated, and, as you should realize, because if your manucripts were submitted to anyone in the format of this "automatic writing" (sans punctuation, proof-reading, proper manuscript format, and spelling checks), they would be rejected hands down, and likely tossed in the "circular file".

As I also indicated, you can publish anything you want, in any form you want, on the Internet (although it will be difficult to read, which of course will generate little from people in the form of attention span...). But perhaps what you're saying is that even your copies of your own "manuscripts" have disappeared mysteriously?

Great, so the Akaskic Records and various beings in the spirit world have closed the case.

This is absolutely fantastic, save just a few salient points.

Everything you say here has been brought up before--largely silly embellishments of people who want to be heard.

Lots of people saw boxes piled up in front of the TSDB window in question. Some even claim to have seen a rifle.

Unfortunately, Clint Hill never looked at that window and raised his hand as if to say "Go, ahead, shoot!". This is ludicrous and appears on no films of the event...but if it appeared to you in an Akaskic vision, so be it. I suppose we'll have to accept this fantasm.

Just as we should accept the idiocy that "bi-sexual" Bob Kennedy killed his brother.

Curiously, you ask, "Did J. Edgar Hoover know about it?"

Having all of these visions and playbacks from the spirit world, and having solved the case as you have, WHY WOULD YOU ASK SUCH A QUESTION? You have to know the answer to that too.

Or, do you really? I mean, after all, your next sentence indicates that Hoover apparently got RFK out of the Justice Department (?). How could Hoover have done so, since Bob Kennedy was IN CHARGE OF THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND WAS HOOVER'S BOSS?

But I think I have discovered the truth.

You see, in this particular post, you give yourself away. You use punctuation and actually construct sentences. This therefore cannot be "Automatic Writing", and thus, those beyond the "veil of death" cannot have accompanied you on this message. These must be your opinions exclusively. Thus, with absolutely nothing to back them up (no spirits, etc.), we simply cannot accept this.

So, let's see.

JFK spoke to you. He appeared smiling to you and gave you the whole scoop.

And Marilyn Monroe did too. She gave you the whole dirt on Bob and Jack Kennedy and how they killed her through JFKs hook ups with the Mob.

And Jackie was in on this murder too, and supported her husbands plan to kill Monroe...

And Bob arranged the murder of his brother, and Bob was also having an affair with Jackie all that time, and apparently was also having bi-sexual liasons with Clint Hill and Rufus Youngblood, blackmailing these two Secret Service Agents into participating in the assassination of his brother...

Do you have any idea what you sound like?

But please, by all means, continue to comment. It provides relief to the rather sinister and depressing nature of the subject matter.

Regards...

Yes I went back and reread the copy and added a few commans and Periods because I felt like it but normally as I write with those in the after Life I don't do that because I am trying to teach those who wish to learn to do this that this is what Automatic Writing looks like.

The Manuscripts I sent out were Punctuated and done the right way.

I never said that Marilyn herself appeared and told me this what I said is a Source known as the Book of Life told and showed me this in looks back into the past.

That Source also gave me a complete replay of the Jimmy Hoffa Saga from start to finish.

Now its not only celebrities that I gather information on its the average murdered person on the street whose murders sometimes go unsolved I just mentioned some of the Celebrities here because some of them like John and Robert F. Kennedy are here and I promised to work with them and tell the Story over and over again until there is no chance of it ever being swept under the rug again.

I don't know why you are getting so excited these people were just ordinary people who were not perfect and their entwined lives caused them to behave just like ordinary families who have jealousies and sometimes interact with each other through adultry and group sex and all the things that many people on earth are doing even today.

[nosam420]

What about the fact that LBJ, Allen Dulles, Earl Warren, J. Edgar Hoover, and Gerald Ford were all Freemasons? Also, that Dealey Plaza was the site of the first Masonic temple in Dallas. Dallas being being located just south of the 33rd degree of latitude. 33rd degree is supposedly the highest one can achieve in Freemasonry.

Check this site out. I smell a rat!

Freemasonry

[MID]

I never said that Marilyn herself appeared and told me this what I said is a Source known as the Book of Life told and showed me this in looks back into the past.

Now its not only celebrities that I gather information on its the average murdered person on the street whose murders sometimes go unsolved I just mentioned some of the Celebrities here because some of them like John and Robert F. Kennedy are here and I promised to work with them and tell the Story over and over again until there is no chance of it ever being swept under the rug again.

I don't know why you are getting so excited these people were just ordinary people who were not perfect and their entwined lives caused them to behave just like ordinary families who have jealousies and sometimes interact with each other through adultry and group sex and all the things that many people on earth are doing even today.

What you said was:

"It matters to Marilyn who is very much alive in the spirit world and she reads all these things written about her and she definitely wants the world to know who is behind her murder."

"These are true facts because they came to me from those who died, and now live on in the spirit world and the true facts were backed up by the keeper of the Akaskic Records in Heaven ..."

This certainly seems to indicate that you heard it from her directly...since you say so.

Of course, that is hardly the point. The point is the unsubstantiated, convoluted ideas put forth. Everyone seems to have been responsible for the death of everyone else. One person actually wrote that Marilyn Monroe was behind the assasination of Bob Kennedy, and that Bob Kennedy was behind Martin Luther King's killing...and I certainly hope they were kidding, since Marilyn weas dead 6 years before either Dr. King or Bob Kennedy.

You say Bob killed his brother! You also state that he was a bi-sexual who had liasons with Secret Service agents, as well as an on-going affair with Jackie Kennedy...

I am not excited. I am amused at such convoluted, fantastic stuff...none of which jibes with the facts that are known, and some of which are just blatantly ridiculous. Your statement that these people were all just ordinary people who had some foibles just like everyone else does is irrelevant, and common knowledge. So what?

It doesn't mean that the Kennedys, Marilyn Monroe, et. al. were all involved in this phantasm of bi-sexual, womanizing, mafia-connection political silliness that seems to have resulted in everyone's death. These things are just the results of people's over-active imaginations, taking a couple of small facts and constructing incredible scenarios that only actually exist in soap operas, which no one's actual life really is reflected by.

But you have the true facts. You know the story. You got the facts from the people who died...backed up by the Akaskic Records. I suppose that means this discussion is closed.

Of course, Marilyn Monroe was a troubled woman, as is well known. Her autopsy, as opposed to that of JFK, was conducted by one of the pre-eminent Forensic Pathologists in the country, and suicide was the most probable cause of death, especially considering the chloral hydrate in her liver and the pentobarbitol concentrated in her liver. The idea that she was murdered has nothing to back it up save the speculation of those who have no real knowledge. This discussion should stick to releavance and the facts that are known and the assumptions which are logical based upon the evidence.

This discussion has to do with President Kennedy at any rate, not Marilyn Monroe.

To expect people to buy the idea that Bob Kennedy had his brother murdered...Bob Kennedy, a man who's entire life was shattered by his brother's murder, a man who was his best friend, and closest confidant--and that Clint Hill, a man who blamed himself for 40 years for the President's death, a man who suffered alot of problems as a result of Dallas, was also complicit in it because he was blackmailed by Bobby...because bi-sexual Bob would expose him and end his career by revealing their illicit liason...

...we want to keep the discussion serious.

This sort of stuff does lighten it up, however.

[MID]

What about the fact that LBJ, Allen Dulles, Earl Warren, J. Edgar Hoover, and Gerald Ford were all Freemasons? Also, that Dealey Plaza was the site of the first Masonic temple in Dallas. Dallas being being located just south of the 33rd degree of latitude. 33rd degree is supposedly the highest one can achieve in Freemasonry.

Check this site out. I smell a rat!

Freemasonry

What about it?

How does (or might) this fact, if true, have any bearing on anything?

The Dallas data is merely co-incidental silliness, but if these men were (are) Masons, one has to wonder what that had to do with anything...especially in the cases of people like Earl Warren, who presided over the flawed Commission, and Gerald Ford, who admittedly aided in the one-assassin/three shot idiocy by moving the rear head entry wound described by the autopsy surgeons up to the top of the head.

Masonic ritual teaches its members to reach for a higher standard in their lives...something these men did not do, obviously. If they were Masons, they weren't very good ones. If they were, the integrity that Masons espouse to would've likely produced a true report.

Regards.

[Rosemary Campbell]

What about the fact that LBJ, Allen Dulles, Earl Warren, J. Edgar Hoover, and Gerald Ford were all Freemasons? Also, that Dealey Plaza was the site of the first Masonic temple in Dallas. Dallas being being located just south of the 33rd degree of latitude. 33rd degree is supposedly the highest one can achieve in Freemasonry.

Check this site out. I smell a rat!

Freemasonry

What does any of that have to do with the Kennedy Assassination?

[Rosemary Campbell]

What does any of that have to do with the Kennedy Assassination?

I put another entry here but lost it when I lost my connection to aol.

I may not be able to remember everything that was written in the lost post but I'll try.

If anyone wants to learn the Kennedy Assassination Story the way I did I would like to suggest that you develop your Psychic Gift and ask these questions from the same source as I got them from in the Spirit World.

That source not only talks to me in voice and appears to me he also shows me things in long running Technicolor like Movies that can take me back in time many years and he can also look into the future.

This source not only took me back to the preparations in Dallas that morning it showed people coming early to find a good seat and took me right up to Oswald waiting in the Book Depository.

And etc etc.

Its very easy for anyone to develop their psychic Abilities and learn to do this and the Guides are only too happy to have other Psychic Channels to work with them because the more times they tell their story to other Psychics and the more they tell it to the World from many States and Countries the more believable it becomes.

[MID]

I put another entry here but lost it when I lost my connection to aol.

I may not be able to remember everything that was written in the lost post but I'll try.

If anyone wants to learn the Kennedy Assassination Story the way I did I would like to suggest that you develop your Psychic Gift and ask these questions from the same source as I got them from in the Spirit World.

That source not only talks to me in voice and appears to me he also shows me things in long running Technicolor like Movies that can take me back in time many years and he can also look into the future.

This source not only took me back to the preparations in Dallas that morning it showed people coming early to find a good seat and took me right up to Oswald waiting in the Book Depository.

And etc etc.

Its very easy for anyone to develop their psychic Abilities and learn to do this and the Guides are only too happy to have other Psychic Channels to work with them because the more times they tell their story to other Psychics and the more they tell it to the World from many States and Countries the more believable it becomes.

I think what everyone would like is to have the truth...in specific detail. Of course, that won't be forthcoming, since it's been over 40 years since the events, most all of the principals are now dead.

However, it seems rather dubious at the outset that you saw people coming early to find the best seat, since there weren't any seats to be had. One simply found a place to stand along the motorcade route. And Oswald...seeing him waiting in the Book Depository also is fine, but given the fact that there's no evidence that he was actually in that window that day, nor any evidence that he ever fired a shot from any weapon, that too seems little more than a nice vision.

Out of curiosity, you haven't mentioned what Lee Oswald has to say about it. After all, he too should be in the spirit world, along with JFK and Monroe and J Edgar Hoover and Jack Ruby, right?

[Rosemary Campbell]

I think what everyone would like is to have the truth...in specific detail. Of course, that won't be forthcoming, since it's been over 40 years since the events, most all of the principals are now dead.

However, it seems rather dubious at the outset that you saw people coming early to find the best seat, since there weren't any seats to be had. One simply found a place to stand along the motorcade route. And Oswald...seeing him waiting in the Book Depository also is fine, but given the fact that there's no evidence that he was actually in that window that day, nor any evidence that he ever fired a shot from any weapon, that too seems little more than a nice vision.

Out of curiosity, you haven't mentioned what Lee Oswald has to say about it. After all, he too should be in the spirit world, along with JFK and Monroe and J Edgar Hoover and Jack Ruby, right?

It may be 40 years but the truth is here if people would listen because while you say the people are dead they are not dead and that is what I have been trying to tell you they are very much alive in the Spirit World and they are part of the Writing team that told me this Story so I would pass it on to the People of the World.

Lee Harvey oswald is not permitted to speak through me he is very busy elsewhere taking care of some of his Sins that he committed here on Earth.

I guess the Kennedy's got their sins taken care of a little faster that oswald because they were allowed to come back and write their Story and so I guess even in the Spirit World Rank has its priviliges.

I have not talked to Jack Ruby nor do I expect to speak to he or Oswald because I only accept those that I choose to write with.

[MID]

It may be 40 years but the truth is here if people would listen because while you say the people are dead they are not dead and that is what I have been trying to tell you they are very much alive in the Spirit World and they are part of the Writing team that told me this Story so I would pass it on to the People of the World.

Lee Harvey oswald is not permitted to speak through me he is very busy elsewhere taking care of some of his Sins that he committed here on Earth.

I guess the Kennedy's got their sins taken care of a little faster that oswald because they were allowed to come back and write their Story and so I guess even in the Spirit World Rank has its priviliges.

I have not talked to Jack Ruby nor do I expect to speak to he or Oswald because I only accept those that I choose to write with.

That is very convenient.

The fact that these people are not dead, but are very much alive in the spirit word is not relevant. Many people feel this way. Fine.

Again, Bobby Kennedy was a bi-sexual who had an affair with his brother's wife, and Miss Monroe, and a couple of secret service agents while fathering almost a dozen children with his wife, and was responsible for his brother's death...

Jack Kennedy had Marilyn Monroe killed, had affairs with who knows how many women...

And all Oswald did was kill JFK, and is too busy taking care of his one sin to speak to you?...when these others have been selectively spoken to with all their many supposed "sins"?

Yes, rank has its priviledges apparently. They're all murderers, and yet poor Lee Oswald...who killed one man (a little proof would be nice on that one) still is atoning for his sins, when Kennedy killed someone too, as well as committed adultery, and associated with the Mafia, and his brother Bob apparrently was a bi-sexual blackmailer, adulterer, AND MURDERER, and these folks you talk to...

And so conveniently you only accept those you choose to write with!

Thanks...that says it all.

Jack Kennedy was the President of the United States.

He was assassinated, obviously as the result of a conspiracy...a conspiracy in which no credible evidence of Lee Oswalds culpability exists!

His brother Bob was his closest friend and advisor, and was shattered for years by his Brother's death, finally being assassinated himself, also the result of a conspiracy which is a proven fact.

None of this had a thing to do with Marilyn Monroe. She was gone, a depressed and troubled woman who had just a bit too much fame and pressure to handle, long before either of the Kennedy brothers met their demise.

You speak to them. Fine, that's great, albeit somewhat selectively.

But your discussion of these things, and your contradictory information, and your pronounced tendency to ignore those obvious contradictions I have pointed out to you, makes your contributions to this particular thread somewhat nil...

[40nrockinon]

I've always thought that the assasination smelled like yesterday's fish!

Course in my book that goes with anything involving the Kennedys!!! Bobby Kennedy being assasinated, Chappaquiddick, Marilyn Monroe, JFK-Jr., etc....

I'm sorry, but all I see there is a wealthy family living above the law & morals, and karma biting them in the tail. Trust me, if you p*** off enough people...someone will shut you up one way or another! Be it wrong or right. To me, the only one who had class in that whole mess of a family was Jackie & that might have all been show. Kinda like Priness Diana.....

And don't ask me where I was when he was assasinated...not born yet!

40nrockinon

[chunga]

After much research and pondering. I have come to the absolute conclusion that Lyndon B. Johnson was the motivation and the order giver for the assasination of President Kennedy.

Dont have to look far in a murder case, its almost always familiar and close as your running mate.

The only alternate theory that I waste any time and credibility on is the one of 4 agents of President Fidel Castro were the one's. One of his mistress' and agent herself did a documentary on her life undercover and for both sides, she was also a agent for the CIA and Fidel at the same time, she gives a very believeable account of the assasination with names, dates, and a logical timeline and plan. She comes across legit and credible.

We will not know until we pass on and all is revealed to us. Poor Lee Harvey, what a shmuck, I feel pity for the guy, talk about being at the wrong place at the wrong time.

[Beckys_Mom]

No one really knows who actually killed JFK, but one thing for cert....Oswald was just part of it and IMO It was the work of the CIA

[SoulMatrix]

Heres a Link about Bush being linked to the Kennedy Assasination. Its a video by Alex Jones 911 Conspiracy.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4...31&q=conspiracy

[tattooedindian]

I saw this show last weekend on Discovery I think, Where these people in Aus. was trying to prove the "magic bullet" theory and they did a good job re-creating everything, except all they proved was that there was a second shooter, because everytime the bullet exited it slowed it considerably and by the time it went through a wrist bone all it did was bounce off the simulated "leg", but they forgot one thing, they didn't simulate it going through clothes or the car seat, I guess they were to busy trying to prove the theory right.