Blizno Posted September 20, 2005 #26 Share Posted September 20, 2005 Has anyone noticed that the Democrats are about as far to the left as you can actually get without being Communist? The Communist Ideology is not just held by hard-line Russians or hard-line Chinese...it is also held by hard-line Democrats...Al Gore and John Kerry to name a couple. 852486[/snapback] Sorry, I haven't noticed that. You mean complaining when vast wealth is taken away from the nation in order to cut taxes for the super-rich, that's a communist plot? Wanting anything other than clear-cutting the nation's forests and opening the national parks to mining so a handful of the richest Americans can get much, much richer is liberal madness? Sorry, McCarthy, I don't see the same red tide that's terrifying you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STIX Posted September 20, 2005 #27 Share Posted September 20, 2005 I'm a little in with STIX. 852163[/snapback] awww, I'm flattered Jenn ... "If you pick and choose which studies you read you can be convinced of anything!" - this is a disturbingly accurate statement there are always people with their own agendas willing to fork out money to hire corrupt scientists to produce false data... the real indicator is who funded the research and who conducted the research, also, it helps to have scientific knowledge of your own so you can criticize the findings yourself... the problem is a lack of controll or scientific watchdogs... its all peer reviewed so this is why people have different findings... the truth is in the eye of the beholder, but it will always exist regardless of who is percieving it. I remember reading an article acouple months ago about how the US gov't did such a thing to keep the truth about global warming down (they payed scientists to come up with false data) so that they could keep their industries running with little public scrutiny and also because protecting the environment cuts down on profits... unfortunatley it wasn't widely covered by the media... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekorig Posted September 20, 2005 #28 Share Posted September 20, 2005 They have to predict some disaster or other to keep getting the grant money on which they make a living. It's much more sinister than that LOT! I am not a conspiracy theorist and I don't buy into any of the conspiracies that have been floating around this place for years... ....so why do I say it is sinister? Because...when the USSR imploded the Russian hard-line Communists didn't get buried in the fall. Where did they all go? Did they stop being hard-line Commies? No. They went into the Environmental Movement. They infiltrated and are behind the scenes instigators of things like Global Warming. Yes some will profit from grant monies but the Real Profit is in Land Grab and Power Grab. The Kioto Accord was just a guise to try and trick America into opening it's back pocket to fund other more Commie projects. Has anyone noticed that the Democrats are about as far to the left as you can actually get without being Communist? The Communist Ideology is not just held by hard-line Russians or hard-line Chinese...it is also held by hard-line Democrats...Al Gore and John Kerry to name a couple. 852486[/snapback] Joc, you must prepare for the worst. Arm yourself. that dammed pinko tree/hugging commies are planing to eat your children, rape your horse and mount your wife in the name of the EVIL KOMUNISM!!!!!!!! PS: Joc, you make my day a little more happier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROGER Posted September 20, 2005 #29 Share Posted September 20, 2005 POOR HORSE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STIX Posted September 20, 2005 #30 Share Posted September 20, 2005 POOR HORSE! 854067[/snapback] wha? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekorig Posted September 21, 2005 #31 Share Posted September 21, 2005 But in the end...the horse was also an EVIL KOMUNIST!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryOldtimer Posted September 21, 2005 #32 Share Posted September 21, 2005 But in the end...the horse was also an EVIL KOMUNIST!!!!! I don't think that those who believe that communism is a viable form of government are necessarily evil, just incredibly stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekorig Posted September 23, 2005 #33 Share Posted September 23, 2005 its a joke. I have seen people in this forum ( and in other part) labeling the comunist (also the socialist, righ ings, tree huggers,etc) has "evil".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley-Star*Child Posted September 23, 2005 #34 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Yes yes, you're all going to die or evacuate trying. j/k, But you never know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperactive Posted September 23, 2005 #35 Share Posted September 23, 2005 the ugly head of politics.... in reality there are many simple environmentally sound solutions that are better economically than many of the current methods in use. The problem has been that mankind has short-sightedly applied the "expansion"/"bigger" model which undervalues the natural assets and overvalues the human-made assets. For those so in love with the idea that "commies" are the evil ones, do not forget that communism and captialism are brothers of the same family and ultimately capitalism will also fail. The workable approach is a hybrid of structures where the best model for each subsystem is applied. Talk of commies on this global issue is just a clever diversion tactic to attempt to take attention of the real issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverCougar Posted September 23, 2005 #36 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Great...more ammunition for the tree-hugging hippie environmentalists. ... I happen to be a tree hugging hippie... thank you very much. And also a cynic.. so I don't give a rats tukus if you find yourself wondering why the american coastlines are a few miles over where they're at now and half the world's animal population's extinct. But what do you care... long as you can still have your comfort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhomphaia Posted September 23, 2005 #37 Share Posted September 23, 2005 ... I happen to be a tree hugging hippie... thank you very much. And also a cynic.. so I don't give a rats tukus if you find yourself wondering why the american coastlines are a few miles over where they're at now and half the world's animal population's extinct. But what do you care... long as you can still have your comfort. Assuming much are we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted September 23, 2005 #38 Share Posted September 23, 2005 ... I happen to be a tree hugging hippie... thank you very much. And also a cynic.. But what do you care... long as you can still have your comfort. I too am a cynic....I don't believe Global Warming even exists. The Earth goes through natural heating and cooling cycles...there is nothing man can do to affect these cycles one way or the other. I enjoy eating animals. I am most comfortable when eating an animal in an air conditioned environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennRose Posted September 23, 2005 #39 Share Posted September 23, 2005 I enjoy eating animals. I am most comfortable when eating an animal in an air conditioned environment. *shrug* To each his own, I suppose. We all have our convictions. And I do enjoy air-conditioning. Unfortunately, if the earth gets too hot to grow crops to feed the animals that you enjoy eating (especially since growing food for cattle and such is extremely inefficient energy and production-wise), we will all be in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobysnack Posted September 23, 2005 #40 Share Posted September 23, 2005 A record loss of sea ice in the Arctic this summer has convinced scientists that the northern hemisphere may have crossed a critical threshold beyond which the climate may never recover. Scientists fear that the Arctic has now entered an irreversible phase of warming which will accelerate the loss of the polar sea ice that has helped to keep the climate stable for thousands of years. They believe global warming is melting Arctic ice so rapidly that the region is beginning to absorb more heat from the sun, causing the ice to melt still further and so reinforcing a vicious cycle of melting and heating.The greatest fear is that the Arctic has reached a "tipping point" beyond which nothing can reverse the continual loss of sea ice and with it the massive land glaciers of Greenland, which will raise sea levels dramatically.Satellites monitoring the Arctic have found that the extent of the sea ice this August has reached its lowest monthly point on record, dipping an unprecedented 18.2 per cent below the long-term average. Experts believe that such a loss of Arctic sea ice in summer has not occurred in hundreds and possibly thousands of years. It is the fourth year in a row that the sea ice in August has fallen below the monthly downward trend - a clear sign that melting has accelerated.Scientists are now preparing to report a record loss of Arctic sea ice for September, when the surface area covered by the ice traditionally reaches its minimum extent at the end of the summer melting period.Sea ice naturally melts in summer and reforms in winter but for the first time on record this annual rebound did not occur last winter when the ice of the Arctic failed to recover significantly. View: Full Article | Source: The Independent Global warming, or a more accurate description climate change, is deffinetly real. They just haven't made it main stream public common knowledge. "We (the scientific community), know that earth changes are coming. But the consensus is that we can do nothing without upsetting the current delicate balance of the global economy. If we were to announce what we know publicly - and admit that we don't know what to do - it would set off a world wide panic that could be worse than keeping quiet and letting events unfold. And besides, there is always a chance that we - and you - are wrong. Maybe nothing will happen after all." "THE FACT IS THAT ALL GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES, ESPECIALLY THOSE AT NASA, ARE UNDER STRICT GAG ORDERS NOT TO TELL THE PUBLIC OF IMPENDING DISASTER (to prevent public panic)." Anyone read the pentagons global climate change report? It only made one American news publication: Fortune. http://www.fortune.com/fortune/technology/...,582584,00.html They said immenent climate change starting as early as 2010 will present more of a threat to national security than terrorism! An Abrupt Climate Change Scenario and Its Implications for United States National Security October 2003 A report commissioned by the U.S. Defense Department By Peter Schwartz and Doug Randall http://www.ems.org/climate/pentagon_climate_change.html Executive summary: http://www.ems.org/climate/exec_pentagon_climatechange.pdf Full Report: http://www.ems.org/climate/pentagon_climatechange.pdf We can't do anything to stop this. I was watching a special on the Discovery Science channel about controling the weather. In the beginning of the century during the industrial revoultion, the American government thought global warming would be a good thing, thinking they could grow crops in Alaska. So they intentionally put massive amounts of smoke and polution into the air to accelerate it. Turned out to be a horrible idea, and our childeren will suffer the consequences. The above is serious, and just for fun: You can not be trusted with your own survival! To protect humanity, some humans must be sacrificed. To insure your future, some freedoms must be surrendered so we can insure mankind's continued existence. You are so like children. We must save you from yourselves. We will not tolerate civil disobedience! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STIX Posted September 23, 2005 #41 Share Posted September 23, 2005 The above is serious, and just for fun: You can not be trusted with your own survival! To protect humanity, some humans must be sacrificed. To insure your future, some freedoms must be surrendered so we can insure mankind's continued existence. You are so like children. We must save you from yourselves. We will not tolerate civil disobedience! so is this what the aliens are saying now? either way, I plan on surviving myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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