Blair 'attacked BBC over Katrina'

[Babs]

I have always said this, that England is jealous of the U.S.. ...and europe too; they want to be the next super dupper power.

What a load of crap.

That makes my 10 ten list for most stupid things I have ever heard on this site.

on Fox news, over here, said the UK didn't send anything for Katrina victims. Is that true?

No one from England should be giving aid to victims of Katrina.

The reason being?

The USA is not a third world country. It is the most wealthy country in the world with the worlds largest economy.

There is no way aid should be sent to American Katrina victims, the idea is ridiculous. The USA is immensely wealthy and can cope with aid.

Even if people feel that they should contribute to aid, then the only two useful things I can see them doing is taking people into their homes, and in some people's minds, praying.

(Edit- aid in the sense of money, clothes etc.)

Mr. Ed: I will pray for you.

[Mr Ed]

I have always said this, that England is jealous of the U.S.. ...and europe too; they want to be the next super dupper power.

What a load of crap.

That makes my 10 ten list for most stupid things I have ever heard on this site.

on Fox news, over here, said the UK didn't send anything for Katrina victims. Is that true?

No one from England should be giving aid to victims of Katrina.

The reason being?

The USA is not a third world country. It is the most wealthy country in the world with the worlds largest economy.

There is no way aid should be sent to American Katrina victims, the idea is ridiculous. The USA is immensely wealthy and can cope with aid.

Even if people feel that they should contribute to aid, then the only two useful things I can see them doing is taking people into their homes, and in some people's minds, praying.

(Edit- aid in the sense of money, clothes etc.)

Mr. Ed: I will pray for you.

For not thinking it is a sensible idea to send aid to the worlds most wealthy country?

Thanks.

Edit:

Barman-

That's piffle, it's our money we're free to do what we want with it. America is rich but it isn't going to pay outright for the victims of Katrina to get new homes and clothes and food.

The government will pay some money sure, and this will probably amount into billions of dollars but there will always be some things left unpaid for, and cash is hard to get out of governments, their like insurance companies. People who donate cash can do so instantly

No, no money should be sent to aid the victims of Katrina. It is the worlds wealthiest country, they could deal with a problem twice as big.

If you want to waste your money then fine.

I can see ways of helping, help that is sensible should be given. However, giving money to the USA in this circumstance is far from sensible.

Edited September 21, 2005 by Mr Ed

[Baku]

What is this? Murdoch vs. Soros or something? Of Course BBC isn't impartial, duh. Most News is nothing but a glorified editorial anymore.

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You're thinking far more of USA news there than UK news. The UK has among the best if not the nest news reporting programs and journalists in the world and I watch them daily, they are hardly a glorified editorial. In fact I respected the BBC for being daring enough to point out Bush's failings, unlike American TV which just sort of skirted around that issue.

I agree this is just ridiculous. And EU is suposed to be jealous on USA ow please, here we are thought that the US is jealous on EU The US only got a few good cities on the west and east coast, all in the center are a bunch of recnecks. Yeah we are really jealous on those rednecks

[Babs]

Mr.Ed: for being a selfish arrogant person.

Our country can go down the tubes, economically, Mr.Ed. ......perhaps you are wishing that?

You know America is wealthy, but individual Americans are not.... and that's where the bulk of hardship will rest_ on Americans.

[Fluffybunny]

No one from England should be giving aid to victims of Katrina.

That's piffle, it's our money we're free to do what we want with it. America is rich but it isn't going to pay outright for the victims of Katrina to get new homes and clothes and food.

The government will pay some money sure, and this will probably amount into billions of dollars but there will always be some things left unpaid for, and cash is hard to get out of governments, their like insurance companies. People who donate cash can do so instantly.

You are correct, it will be HUNDREDS of BILLIONS of dollars. I don't think that people understand the scope of what happened. Hundreds of thousands of people lost their homes...the better part of a very large city was destroyed, and what wasn't destroyed was damaged severely. They have found more than a thousand dead people and still are nowhere near being done.

We are not a socialist society, we do not guarantee homes and food jobs to our citizens. As citizens we are responsible for ourselves. If you think that insurance companies are going to help people pay off their homes that were destroyed you are mistaken, insurance companies will be filing for bankruptcy left right and center. People have lost everything that they own and do not even have the ability to go back home to get a job and start over again as their are no jobs left to get.

The government does not have the resources to be able to get everyone(or many for that matter) into a home or apartment, clothe them, feed them, and get them a job right away...all while trying to get an entire large city that has been destroyed back in order.

You can do whatever you choose with your money Mr Ed, but to say that no one should give money to help the hundreds of thousands of people effected by the hurricane is rather heartless and cold.

[Mr Ed]

Mr.Ed: for being a selfish arrogant person.

Our country can go down the tubes, economically, Mr.Ed. ......perhaps you are wishing that?

You know America is wealthy, but individual Americans are not.... and that's where the bulk of hardship will rest_ on Americans.

My words are not selfish or arrogant at all, in this case anyway.

No, of course I am not wishing America's economy to crash.

Don't be silly.

The American government has to solve the problem, they are by far wealthy enough to do so.

No foreign money aid is need at all.

It is ridiculous to send money to the victims, (exlcuding certain circumstances).

Hmm if anyone says that the Government cannot afford it, maybe they could take a couple of billion off their arms budget...

Fluffybunny:

The government does not have the resources to be able to get everyone(or many for that matter) into a home or apartment, clothe them, feed them, and get them a job right away...all while trying to get an entire large city that has been destroyed back in order.

You can do whatever you choose with your money Mr Ed, but to say that no one should give money to help the hundreds of thousands of people effected by the hurricane is rather heartless and cold.

The government does have those resources.

The government has the resources.

Example:

'The US military budget was almost as much as the rest of the world's.'

Ah. I think it is safe to say that they could build homes or provide homes for the citizens without them.

I don't feel at all that I am being heartless or cold.

I simply find it absurd that people are sending money to the most wealthy country in the world, a country that can easily deal with the problem by itself.

Even if it means being a little bit socialist.

(Military budget is used an example, I am not a big enemy of it).

Edit- my point is that the American government should be able to cope with the problem itself. It is not a third world country.

Edited September 21, 2005 by Mr Ed

[Celumnaz]

What is this? Murdoch vs. Soros or something? Of Course BBC isn't impartial, duh. Most News is nothing but a glorified editorial anymore.851097[/snapback]

You're thinking far more of USA news there than UK news. The UK has among the best if not the nest news reporting programs and journalists in the world and I watch them daily, they are hardly a glorified editorial. In fact I respected the BBC for being daring enough to point out Bush's failings, unlike American TV which just sort of skirted around that issue.

I agree this is just ridiculous. And EU is suposed to be jealous on USA ow please, here we are thought that the US is jealous on EU The US only got a few good cities on the west and east coast, all in the center are a bunch of recnecks. Yeah we are really jealous on those rednecks

What does anything you quoted have anything to do with what bigottry you just spewed?

My words are not selfish or arrogant at all, in this case anyway.

Just sounds like descrimination.

The American government has to solve the problem, they are by far wealthy enough to do so.

I would much rather the American People solved the problem, and not the government.

[Mr Ed]

I am not being discriminative. I like Americans, I have nothing against any nationality. I am just telling it like it is.

Fair enough, the American people. Well the government are representatives of the American people...

[Celumnaz]

No, discriminatory against an economic group, not Americans.

"They're rich, so they don't deserve help." sounds just as bad to me as "They're poor, who's going to miss them?".

[Mr Ed]

No, discriminatory against an economic group, not Americans.

"They're rich, so they don't deserve help." sounds just as bad to me as "They're poor, who's going to miss them?".

Nothing like that at all.

At all.

I am saying the government, the representative face of the American people, has the necessary resources, and beyond, to care for its people.

[Celumnaz]

ahhh, sorry sure sounded that way. I see now.

I think the mentality of the "govt. caring for it's people" is what got them in the mess to begin with and is keeping some from recovery as they wait for handouts.

[I am me]

Mr.Ed: for being a selfish arrogant person.

Our country can go down the tubes, economically, Mr.Ed. ......perhaps you are wishing that?

You know America is wealthy, but individual Americans are not.... and that's where the bulk of hardship will rest_ on Americans.

aparantly you haven't visited any other nation than yours babs. i think what you consider poor is quite different than what most of the world considers poor.

[Mr Ed]

Very true.

[I am me]

ahhh, sorry sure sounded that way. I see now.

I think the mentality of the "govt. caring for it's people" is what got them in the mess to begin with and is keeping some from recovery as they wait for handouts.

yup you got that right.

[Babs]

Mr.Ed: for being a selfish arrogant person.

Our country can go down the tubes, economically, Mr.Ed. ......perhaps you are wishing that?

You know America is wealthy, but individual Americans are not.... and that's where the bulk of hardship will rest_ on Americans.

aparantly you haven't visited any other nation than yours babs. i think what you consider poor is quite different than what most of the world considers poor.

I have visited other nations. All is relative, my friend.

[Babs]

No, discriminatory against an economic group, not Americans.

"They're rich, so they don't deserve help." sounds just as bad to me as "They're poor, who's going to miss them?".

Nothing like that at all.

At all.

I am saying the government, the representative face of the American people, has the necessary resources, and beyond, to care for its people.

Oh no, you said they are rich, don't send them money or help.... and then you said, "they are a bunch of rednecks, anyway, who cares!"

Heartless and cruel.

[Mr Ed]

What the hell?

I don't know what you are talking about.

[PadawanOsswe]

I have to end this stupidity.

KATRINA WAS NOT DUBYA'S FAULT!

The Constitutionsimply states there there is a separation between Federal,State,and Local Government.

besdes Dubya declared New Orleans a disaster zone BEFORE the hurrican even hit!

he had Rescue and Relief workers at the ready. but the state and local government denied help. therefore delayed help.

so the Fualt is ENTIRELY upon The Governor of Loussiannna and the Mayor of New Orleans!

the stuff about Dubya bieng responsible is liberal Bull****!

and Mr. Ed, we have help out England so many times its not funny. in WW2 we flooded you with supplies

in WW1 we secretly flooded supplies.

and no matter what you think, our economy cant rebuild these entire cities.

and I agree with babs europeans are Jealous. anybody who say's they're not is in denial.

and for people making fun of "rednecks" Rednecks are from any nation in the world, any natonality. so shut up!

a person with a complete lack so sophistication is a redneck.

not everybody in the south is a redneck. I have a lot of good people down here. so saying that evetbody in the south are racist redneck idiots is typical liberal and European steriotypical bull****!

have a nice day

[Baku]

Mr.Ed: for being a selfish arrogant person.

Our country can go down the tubes, economically, Mr.Ed. ......perhaps you are wishing that?

You know America is wealthy, but individual Americans are not.... and that's where the bulk of hardship will rest_ on Americans.

yeah the US is really wealthy thats why they got 8 trillion debt and are still going deeper into it. Just check out this site for more info about this:

US DEBT

Edited September 22, 2005 by Baku

[Heru]

What are you guys fighting about. No one needs to give anyone anything. UK doesnt need to give us money but they did so thank you from me and im sure the victims thank you also.

And WW2 is a bad example for aid. If we fought sooner we woulda saved alot of lives.

[I am me]

I have visited other nations. All is relative, my friend.

what, you've been to canada or britian? most poor people are quite a bit poorer than the so called poor in the usa. a lot of the "poor" here have TVs and cars. those in other countries are happy to have a roof and food.

Edited September 22, 2005 by I am me

[I am me]

yeah the US is really wealthy thats why they got 8 trillion debt and are still going deeper into it. Just check out this site for more info about this:

US DEBT

you are right about that. that's the government's debt that will somehow have to be repaid. our government can thank china and japan for backing most of it.

[Celumnaz]

No one needs to give anyone anything.

socialists would disagree with you and call you heartless for that.

[Mr Ed]

Thinking that giving money to the USA in this situation is absurd is not heartless.

I realise you may have been speaking in general.

[wunarmdscissor]

We are not a socialist society, we do not guarantee homes and food jobs to our citizens.

hmm maybe americans should think in a more socialist way then.

the lack of response to the disaster in new orleans is EXACTLY what happens when you have a right wing govt.

Shrinking the federal state will result only in poorer and smaller scale public services and lets not kid ourselves it was clear that the lack of PUBLIC transport in america was a CLEAR cause of many of the deaths. people simply couldnt leave becuase they couldnt afford to.

but hey thats what us evil socialists want.

free healthcare, transport, education etc etc....

we're very bad.

and the whole "you europeans are jealous of america " crap is ridiculous.

lol most of us live in cities, that pre-date america the nation by centuries.

why would we be jealous? what exactly do you have babs that i would be jealous of? clearly not the american education system lol.

what do you have that i cannot?

except an arrogance that i cannot comrehend?