Yelekiah 4 #26 Posted September 20, 2005 (edited) He is referring to numbers. Not sand. It would be different. TaintedDoughnuts earlier post should make sense to you. Edited September 20, 2005 by Yelekiah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joc 18,990 #27 Posted September 20, 2005 Actually TD post didn't really make much sense either. Yeah..2 equals 2 if you don't have any fractions involved...Where on God's Grey Earth is the mind-squelching revelation in that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yelekiah 4 #28 Posted September 20, 2005 When you use decimals it makes perfect sense that 2+2 doesn't exactly equal four. Is that hard to grasp? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joc 18,990 #29 Posted September 20, 2005 (edited) When you use decimals it makes perfect sense that 2+2 doesn't exactly equal four. Is that hard to grasp? Geeeeeeezzzz... Okay let's start all over with the basics: 2 = 2 If you take a fraction and add it to 2, you don't have 2 anymore. 2.1 + 2 doesnot equal 4...it equals 4.1 The original question was about 2 + 2 not equaling 4. What is so mind boggling about decimals? What is hard for me to grasp is someone's inability to understand the difference between fractions and whole numbers. Two is a whole number. Two-point-one is a fraction. Never mind ... I give up..there is little point in arguing against an idiotic premise. Edited September 20, 2005 by joc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yelekiah 4 #30 Posted September 20, 2005 Not like 2.1, joc. The ACTUAL number 2 repeating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joc 18,990 #31 Posted September 20, 2005 2 x 240,000 trillion billion will not end in .01 it will end in 0. ........even into infinitey.........it will end in 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yelekiah 4 #32 Posted September 20, 2005 And what does that have to do with 2+2=4? 2 repeating or 2+2=5, joc? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joc 18,990 #33 Posted September 20, 2005 2 (way way way (a few trillion decimal places)) has to equal like 2.000000000000000000000000000000000001 or somethin' similar; sense nothing in this world (humans created it, and we arn't perfect) is perfect, that has to be the case. Wrong. His premise is wrong. He is saying that man created numbers and therefore numbers are imperfect. And it doesn't take a genius to know that 2 an infinite number of decimal places later will end in 0 unless something else is added to it. The real question here is Why am I even continuing posting in this thread when I should have been in bed hours ago? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yelekiah 4 #34 Posted September 20, 2005 Well if you think about it like this, man created calculators that show repeating numbers. And yes, joc, you should go to bed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joc 18,990 #35 Posted September 20, 2005 very well..................goodnite one and all........................ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yelekiah 4 #36 Posted September 20, 2005 Sweet Dreams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hyperactive 3 #37 Posted September 20, 2005 since everybody is all in a tizzy, i will post the errant proof to make you all dizzy! a classic indeed. -1/1 = 1/-1 Taking the square root of both sides: sqrt(-1/1) = sqrt(1/-1) (where "sqrt" denotes the square-root symbol which cannot be displayed on text-only browsers.) Simplifying: sqrt(-1) / sqrt(1) = sqrt(1) / sqrt(-1) In other words, i/1 = 1/i. Therefore, i / 2 = 1 / (2i), i/2 + 3/(2i) = 1/(2i) + 3/(2i), i (i/2 + 3/(2i) ) = i ( 1/(2i) + 3/(2i) ), (i^2)/2 + (3i)/2i = i/(2i) + (3i)/(2i), (-1)/2 + 3/2 = 1/2 + 3/2, and this shows that 1=2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yelekiah 4 #38 Posted September 20, 2005 Thank you, hyperactive, that was fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wabbit 2 #39 Posted September 20, 2005 yes indeed, hyperactive.. that made me dizzy... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joc 18,990 #40 Posted September 20, 2005 ahem....................I slept............ .............and the square root of 1 is 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
distortedpandy 6 #41 Posted September 20, 2005 oh ffs... no wonder I failed math Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Celumnaz 6 #42 Posted September 20, 2005 Reimann did the 2+2=5 Gauss did the 2+2=3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nick_fury 5 #43 Posted September 20, 2005 This sure does belong in world of the bizarre As far as I'm concerned 2 is 2 and 4 is 4. No need to overcomplicate things Now I think I need a nap Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fawkes2 36 #44 Posted September 20, 2005 ^ l agree with you to me 2+2=4 . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Netwolf111 0 #45 Posted September 20, 2005 (edited) What you are talking about was also talked about in our College math class. What you have is abolute numbers and mesured numbers. ex: Your desk is 30 inches wide. Well since it is mesured there is a % of error in your equation. Same as anything else that is mesured (I can post the math formula if anyone wants it) But then if you tell me you have 2 desk in your room, that is an absolute number. It is 2 items. So 2 + 2 = 4 if 2 and 2 are absolute numbers (2 apples + 2 apples) but 2 + 2 might not equal exactly 4 if you have mesured numbers such as 2 degres + 2 degres or 2 litres + 2 litres (ex off my a few milimiter) but for simplicitie's sake we round up... Edited September 20, 2005 by Netwolf111 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pharoah 0 #46 Posted September 20, 2005 Man, did I ever word THAT post wrong. I got this idea to post somethin' like that from another site; I went back there to find it, but couldn't find it, so you will just have to go with my explanation But forget about the 2 not bein' an equal number; that really wasn't what I was gettin' at. And now, I'm as confused as you all. Man wrote it, man... can't conquer O_o I'm confused... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yelekiah 4 #47 Posted September 20, 2005 Now you've screwed us all over! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yelekiah 4 #48 Posted September 20, 2005 (joking, joking) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yelekiah 4 #50 Posted September 20, 2005 So what is it that you are trying to say, Pharoah? Once you become...how should I say it? "De-confused"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
