Nxt2Hvn Posted September 22, 2005 #1 Share Posted September 22, 2005 A schizophrenic artist who died after handcuffing himself to a tree after throwing away the key, may have tried to free himself, an inquest has heard. The skeleton of Richard Sumner - 47 when he went missing three years ago - was found in a remote area of Clocaenog Forest, Denbighshire, in April 2005. Mr Sumner, from Crosby, Merseyside, may have changed his mind about killing himself but could not reach the keys, the Denbigh inquest was told. The coroner recorded an open verdict. Mr Sumner, at one time a scenic artist for opera productions at Glyndebourne, had suffered from schizophrenia since 1984. The hearing was told he had attempted to take his life in this manner before and in 1996 had taken four days to free himself. His skeleton was found by a woman who had become lost while walking her dog. He could have been there for a few days. If you handcuff yourself to a tree you would die fairly quickly but maybe not as quickly as you would like -- Home Office pathologist Brian Rogers The handcuffs attached to one arm indicated that Mr Sumner had attached himself to the tree and thrown the key to a point where he could not retrieve it, north east Wales coroner John Hughes was told. However, Home Office pathologist Brian Rogers said the position of the handcuffs and marks found on the tree indicated that Mr Sumner had probably changed his mind, but could not reach the key. "It's possible he took an overdose of tablets. It's possible he took poison. Clearly he had handcuffed himself to the tree and he had thrown away the key." 'Talented and intelligent' When asked by Mr Sumner's sister, Patricia Jones, if he could say how long her brother would have taken to die, Mr Rogers said: "He could have been there for a few days. If you handcuff yourself to a tree you would die fairly quickly but maybe not as quickly as you would like." Mr Hughes heard evidence that Mr Sumner was a talented, intelligent man who felt frustrated by his illness and who said he did not wish to be a parasite. His sister told the court that her brother had spoken of taking his own life and she confirmed there had been three previous attempts. "His idea was to kill himself but he couldn't do it because he couldn't upset everybody, including the people who would find his body," she said. She said that was the reason he had gone so far into the wood - in the hope his remains would not be found. Coroner John Hughes concluded: "It's clear that Richard John Sumner was a very troubled man and he was getting worse and he was very depressed." He expressed his "sincere sympathies" to Mr Sumner's family but said he could not know for sure how he died or whether he really intended to take his own life. "Sadly, I return a verdict of an open nature, an open verdict," he told them. Source/Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__Kratos__ Posted September 22, 2005 #2 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Yucky... this sort of reminds me of the book "gerald's game" by stephen king... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
777MileStare Posted September 22, 2005 #3 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick_fury Posted September 22, 2005 #4 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Schitzophrenia will do crazy things to people. Maybe he was trying to do some sort of modern art garb gone horrificly wrong though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativechick1989 Posted September 22, 2005 #5 Share Posted September 22, 2005 How sad . . ! I've worked at a Day Treatment Center for the Mentally Handicapped and we'd have to be very vigilant when it came to our clients. Misunderstanding . . is one of the concepts of working with individuals of this nature, not everyone knows how to deal with such an individual. It's sad to think of how Mr. Sumner chose to deal with his illness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplos Posted September 23, 2005 #6 Share Posted September 23, 2005 It's also a little sad how his sister knew he was talking about killing himself and that he had tried in the past but she didn't get help for him or move in or something. Not blaming her though. Mental illness is an ugly thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecInca Posted September 24, 2005 #7 Share Posted September 24, 2005 (edited) Poor guy! People who suffer mental illnesses are rarely treated right by the people who dont know them. There needs to be far more education on mental illness in the community I believe. Edited September 24, 2005 by AztecInca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnacle Battlefront Posted September 24, 2005 #8 Share Posted September 24, 2005 that is really sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe eubleck Posted September 24, 2005 #9 Share Posted September 24, 2005 'Talented and intelligent' clearly this only applies to one of the personalities... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnacle Battlefront Posted September 24, 2005 #10 Share Posted September 24, 2005 @ moe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Link of Hyrule Posted September 24, 2005 #11 Share Posted September 24, 2005 My first instinct on seeing the headline was to laugh . But after reading the article, it's just so sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingman Posted September 25, 2005 #12 Share Posted September 25, 2005 This article leaves only one question... How did he decompose to the state of a skeleton in only 3 days?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
343 Guilty Spark Posted September 25, 2005 #13 Share Posted September 25, 2005 (edited) Shouldn't of the family kept an eye on him? If he tryed before the same way,I would have followed him if i was his brother just to make sure nothing happened. Edited September 25, 2005 by 343 Guilty Spark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabbit Posted September 25, 2005 #14 Share Posted September 25, 2005 This article leaves only one question... How did he decompose to the state of a skeleton in only 3 days?!?! the article says: The skeleton of Richard Sumner - 47 when he went missing three years ago - was found in a remote area of Clocaenog Forest, Denbighshire, in April 2005. And whether or not this person had tried to commit suicide before, even if someone were to keep an eye on him, after a while, they would have found him "safe" to be on his own and he would have tried again, and probably succeeded. He had a very bad mental illness... how terribly sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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