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Does anyone know if they have actually found any step-like walls? Anything that actually looks like the out-walls of the pyramids in Egypt etc? Until they have then I remain sceptical that these ruins they have found are a pyramid.

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Does anyone know if they have actually found any step-like walls? Anything that actually looks like the out-walls of the pyramids in Egypt etc? Until they have then I remain sceptical that these ruins they have found are a pyramid.

you know what lamia said on press conferance she is egyptian archelogist

something like that

she said: it is normal why people are divided. when you mention pyramid , many people think of egyptian pyramids, and if they do not look like that, they are not pyramids.

Pyramids in egypt and mexico or somewhere else are unique,, all pyramids are unique and they can not be compareable with other pyramid

i dont know if i translated well , but something like that

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So if they keep finding bedrock, then surely this suggests that the hill isn't actually a pyramid? I mean, why would there be bedrock that is millions/billions of years old, over the top of a pyramid. It just doesn't make sense/isn't possible. There is obviously some kind of ruins there, but if they are constantly hitting bedrock then I find the pyramid theory hard to accept. I hope I am wrong though and it is a pyramid.

That's exactly the point. MNost of what they've uncovered is natural bedrock. The rest is ruins of structure/pavements built on to the hillside. There's noting to suggest the hill itself ois manmade - all the evidence they've presented thus far proves the opposite.

I expect the story to change soon to "natural hill which may have been altered a bit to make it look like a pyramid" ..... :)

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Other than the shape of the hill, have they yet found any evidence to support the pyramid theory?

yes , of course

(what is it then)

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What evidence do they have to claim this great age 12500?

they do not claim tha this is 12 500, who told you that ?????????

(I thought read 12500)

osmanagich said that this pyramid can be between 2500 and 12 000 years old

(Why 12000)

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Have they found any artefacts?

i think so

(Like What)

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Why are they having a media circus now?

why not

(Because archaeologist normally wait until they have all the info on what they've discovered before they produce a paper)

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why not wait until the end of the excavation and produce a paper?

they have more evidence every week , more and more

(It dosen't look like that from what we're reading, just a few wall's and path's)

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It appears to be very important to some bosnian people that they have a pyramid, why is this, is there something we (outsiders) don't know?

are you joking man, ???????????????????????????

who would not be happy yo have a huge ancient pyramid in your city ???????????????

would you be happy ???????????????

(I'd find it very interesting, but i'd wait to the end of the excavation, so we didn't end up with egg on are face)

think about that , and not only that , the magic word

Tourism = Better Economy = More money = more jobbs = something to be proud of to be a part of some great ancient civilisation

(That's making more sense now, coming from a different culture and economy things aren't always easy to understand)

do you want more reasones why bosnian think this is important

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wooooovvv loads of NEW members are focusing on this thread hmhmhm ::ninja

there is NO organica mater to prove or dissprove the quesed age of the structure,

i have said this 1000 times to all the skeptics, why are you asking us all these questions, wouldnt it be better to just durect your questions to people leading or working on this project, i have messages osmanagic and his people Number of times and they always answer withhing 24 hours :)

Office email (info) "info@piramidasunca.ba"

Sam Osmanagic "osmanagic@msn.com" Chairman; Founder

Senad Hodović "senad@piramidasunca.ba" Member of B.D.

Mario Gerussi "gerussi@piramidasunca.ba" Executive Director;Member of B.D.

Amela Odobašić "aodobasic@rak.ba" Spokeswoman

Press "press@piramidasunca.ba"

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wooooovvv loads of NEW members are focusing on this thread hmhmhm ::ninja

there is NO organica mater to prove or dissprove the quesed age of the structure,

i have said this 1000 times to all the skeptics, why are you asking us all these questions, wouldnt it be better to just durect your questions to people leading or working on this project, i have messages osmanagic and his people Number of times and they always answer withhing 24 hours :)

Office email (info) "info@piramidasunca.ba"

Sam Osmanagic "osmanagic@msn.com" Chairman; Founder

Senad Hodović "senad@piramidasunca.ba" Member of B.D.

Mario Gerussi "gerussi@piramidasunca.ba" Executive Director;Member of B.D.

Amela Odobašić "aodobasic@rak.ba" Spokeswoman

Excellant reply my friend....

those who dont belive are entitled to thier opnion, but lets not give in to thier questioning and make ourselfs angry, and have the thread closed like the last one.

the man who knows dosent have to shout

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wait, we dont know how old the pyramid (if it is one) are, it may be 24000y but it may also be 1000.000y old or even older.

If we dont know the age, we can say if the mathmatic is right or wrong. The world changed many times....you know?

yes,, but all and i mean all pyramids around the world are all built on the same mathmitcal principle. if we could get a idea of the dimensions it may bring us closer to knowing weither we are looking at a pyramid.

and very true not all pyramids around the world are pyrmadical in shape or size but they all share the same mathmatics.

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I know where your going with this. Just remember, these are the same people that recalled (then fired and blacklisted) a female archaeologist,

Care to give her name, where she was digging, who the lead was, what she claimed, what evidence she had for such a claim, what the peer review found. That is a typical slur by non-professionals towards a profession that they sit of the outskirts of and really don't understand. - The Wolf

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people,, here we go again those who dont belive seem to want to pull us in to arguments,, dont fall for it, itll end in insults and the mods will shut the thread down like the last one, ignore them this thread is far more important than thier negative opnions, lets keep this thread going and lets not let them win.

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Care to give her name, where she was digging, who the lead was, what she claimed, what evidence she had for such a claim, what the peer review found. That is a typical slur by non-professionals towards a profession that they sit of the outskirts of and really don't understand. - The Wolf

I think it was a reference to Virginia Steen-MacIntyre - who uncovered what some believe to be evidence of tool bearing homonids in the Americas as much as 250,000 years ago ...

http://www.bennerwc.com/ancientman/kenyon.html

http://s8int.com/hueyatlaco.html

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I am curious as to why anytime poses a question about the validity of the pyramids, certain supporters become defensive and start making mocking comments?

For the purposes of UM if this threads degenerates into an insulting name calling mess it will be closed and warnings and/or suspensions will be issued.

More importantly however alot of these valid questions (and more) Osmanagic and his people will have to answer in order to conclusively prove these structures are pyramids and not the remmanants of a medeival fort(s) and/or natural rock formations.

Louie, the Giants Causeway is phennomenal. I had heard of it but never seen pictures. A good example of how interesting mother nature can get.

The pictures you are providing Aragorn are excellant, keep up the great work.

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I think this thread is going very well, on both sides, but a remark like yours could lead to to arguments. Unfortunately bad judgement on moderators side. Sorry. :blush:

Aragon, you delivered us again great pics. It does seem from time to time they are getting lost in their excavations and then all of a sudden they hit us with this. Great.

It realy looks know like over dimensional steps.

I can hear the pyramid saying, HISTORY, HERE I COME. :rofl:

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Care to give her name, where she was digging, who the lead was, what she claimed, what evidence she had for such a claim, what the peer review found. That is a typical slur by non-professionals towards a profession that they sit of the outskirts of and really don't understand. - The Wolf

Actually I read about this in Readers Digest Unexplained Mysteries of South America.

And no, Im not going to re-read the book to find out name and places. Sorry. The point is

I read the article: http://www.archaeology.org/online/features...agic/index.html

They dismiss it without even going there themselves to check it out. That is an example of armchair professional archaeology.IMO.

I do understand that when the professionals find something that doesnt fit within the acedemically accepted time-line they dont like it. And they don't want to give this potential archaelogical find in Bosnia a second thought.

Far as I'm concerned, the jury is still out on what they are finding in Bosnia. I am not going to scoff at (like Archaelogical Institute of America), nor blindly embrace, that it is indeed a pyramid. The data still needs further examination.

Great pics Aragon. Thanks.

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in the mexican pyramids there is an inscription in a building at UXMAL called AKAIBOID, and its a memorial to the destruction of mu, the lands to the west, where from came the sacred mysteries.

but this method of decipherment left much to the imagination.

but this is when the professionals are saying people werent tyravelling yet these so called primative pyramid builders are refering to lands in the west,, so why not that a group of people made it to europe an built pyramids..

maybe they did, maybe they dident,

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24 June 2006

Barakat: ‘This is man-made pyramid’

The two Egyptian scientists working at the Bosnian pyramids - geologist Barakat and archeologist Lamia El Hadidi – have made some of their findings public prior to completing their work at the site. They conclude that there are ancient man-made structures in the Visocica Hill region.

When he first arrived in Bosnia, geologist Barakat said that Visocica Hill was probably ‘some kind of primitive pyramid’. After more than a month working at the site, his opinion remains unchanged.

Barakat said, “For me, as a scientist and geologist, there’s still no doubt that this is man-made. I think that humans cut, polished, reshaped and formed stone blocks {that form the pyramid), bringing them here and adding them to the existing hill in order to give the shape of a pyramid to the hill.”

Archaeologist El Hadidi added that a large archaeological site has been found on the so-called Pyramid of the Moon, near to the Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun. She said they were unable, at this stage, to date the site, saying that further research is needed. However, she confirmed earlier conclusions that this site also represents a pyramid. “It is really impossible that nature creates shapes like this. Maybe one, but not three or four sides of the hill as we have here. There is still a lot of work to be done here, if we want to unveil all the secrets of this valley.”

Scepticism about the existence of the pyramids remains within parts of the scientific community. This may be partly because the site in Bosnia does not represent our traditional image of pyramids - as in Egypt - but a different kind of structure where stones have been placed around an existing hill to form the shape of a pyramid.

A complex of manmade tunnels has also been found at the site. It has been suggested that the tunnels may connect the three pyramids. In one of the tunnels, a large polished monolith has been found with unknown carved inscriptions including arrows and a shape similar to our letter ‘E’.

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augustus le plongeon, one of the first excavatiors of the mexican pyramids... born 1826

le plongeons speculations were too much for his contempories, anyone who could speak of cycles of existence in more advanced planets and worlds than the present was likley to be in trouble with an establishment, many of whom still subscribed to to a bibilcal origin for the world sometime in the 5th millinenum be.

when you go against the tide they are ready to shoot you down...

this ring any bells here,,,

it does for me..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustus_Le_Plongeon

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I expect the story to change soon to "natural hill which may have been altered a bit to make it look like a pyramid" ..... :)

Scepticism about the existence of the pyramids remains within parts of the scientific community. This may be partly because the site in Bosnia does not represent our traditional image of pyramids - as in Egypt - but a different kind of structure where stones have been placed around an existing hill to form the shape of a pyramid.

Coincidence? I think not! Essan, how much do you charge for your psychic services? :w00t:

augustus le plongeon, one of the first excavatiors of the mexican pyramids... born 1826

le plongeons speculations were too much for his contempories, anyone who could speak of cycles of existence in more advanced planets and worlds than the present was likley to be in trouble with an establishment, many of whom still subscribed to to a bibilcal origin for the world sometime in the 5th millinenum be.

when you go against the tide they are ready to shoot you down...

this ring any bells here,,,

it does for me..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustus_Le_Plongeon

When I read through that wikipedia entry, it seemed more like he had a theory when the jury was still out on chronologies and when more evidence turned up that seemed to disagree with him he refused to abandon his beloved little pet theory. Of course the article itself may be biased, but that's the impression I got.

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There is an old say in Bosnia: '' Some People like their own miserie more, than someone elses luck".

Truthist, if you realy like what you represent, then go back a few hundret posts and you will see that the Idea of a combination of natural hill and man made structures is not new.

This is even accepted by the pro pyramidists.

Also, there were numerous posts which state that this pyramid looks different than the the ones in Mexico, which look different than the ones in Egypt, which again look different than the ones in China, which again look diff.............and so on and on.

I say, this Pyramid in Visoko is unique, just like the others are unique in their structure.

So where is the problem with that?

Aragon is delivering us remarkable pictures, that most of us enjoy watching. Unlike Essan, I am not a psychic but I can tell you one thing: In a year from now on, your nick will be Thomas. :w00t::w00t::w00t:

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Excellent job for posting those e-mail addresses. Let people direct the questions that no one can answer yet to the people who know. :tu:

I say "Keep Digging!"

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Excellent job for posting those e-mail addresses. Let people direct the questions that no one can answer yet to the people who know. :tu:

I say "Keep Digging!"

thank you, and since people at visocica have been alowed by bosnian government to dig for next 5 years i say whatever sceptics say has no weight in this, even if its not pyramid, if they are just digging for fun u cant do nothing about it hahahahah :ph34r::ph34r::ph34r:

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Coincidence? I think not! Essan, how much do you charge for your psychic services? :w00t:

Nah, just simply deduction. The idea it dates to before the end of the last Glacial had already been abandoned, and with so many pictures of natural bedrock appearing where there should have been hewn stone blocks, plus the only actual archaeology looking more and more like seperate structures built onto the hillside, it was only a matter of time .... :)

If they'd taken that approach from the start, instead of claiming the whole hill to be artifical, then maybe there'd have been less scepticism over the whole issue.

Fact remains, there is archaeology there and it will interesting to know whether it's medieval or earlier.

Plus, the whole saga has greatly increased global awareness and interest in Bosnia (largely forgotten since the Balkan civil wars ended) and its history :)

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There is an old say in Bosnia: '' Some People like their own miserie more, than someone elses luck".

Truthist, if you realy like what you represent, then go back a few hundret posts and you will see that the Idea of a combination of natural hill and man made structures is not new.

This is even accepted by the pro pyramidists.

Believe it or not, I was actually deranged enough to go through this thread again (so much bickering at the beginning, ugh). I found these two posts that predate Essans "prediction":

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...967&st=375#

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...967&st=426#

The first one is from a week ago and not Team Osmanagic, and the second one has been edited, so we can't be sure whether Essan has psychic powers or not! :devil: Or was the idea first presented in the huge thread that got pruned?

Also, there were numerous posts which state that this pyramid looks different than the the ones in Mexico, which look different than the ones in Egypt, which again look different than the ones in China, which again look diff.............and so on and on.

I say, this Pyramid in Visoko is unique, just like the others are unique in their structure.

So where is the problem with that?

I'm willing to bet that there are numerous posts which state pretty much anything you can think of. AFAIK, we still don't even know if this is a pyramid, much less what it will look like if it is.

Aragon is delivering us remarkable pictures, that most of us enjoy watching. Unlike Essan, I am not a psychic but I can tell you one thing: In a year from now on, your nick will be Thomas. :w00t::w00t::w00t:

I am one of those people who enjoy the pictures. :)

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It this turns out to be a man made pyramid, then I don´t think it matters much if it was originally shaped out of hill or built from the ground up. Because when you look at those pictures, you can see that it is a huge structure, and who ever did the "shaping", had to have some serious intentions and workforce available. It wouldn´t be an easy (nor cheap) thing to do even with the all the great machines we have available today.

Also, if there turns out to be some correlations with other pyramids of the world, like placing of these pyramids match with their south-american representatives, then it would indicate that there was some link with these cultures.

But lets see. Lets not jump into conclusions just yet. :)

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Coincidence? I think not! Essan, how much do you charge for your psychic services? :w00t:

When I read through that wikipedia entry, it seemed more like he had a theory when the jury was still out on chronologies and when more evidence turned up that seemed to disagree with him he refused to abandon his beloved little pet theory. Of course the article itself may be biased, but that's the impression I got.

fair enough the establishment disagreed with his theorys totally but they are still being discussed today, try the book mysteries of the mexican pyramids by peter thompson ,, you can get it from the libary here in finland,.

regardless the writings in those pyramids tell of people blue eyed and fair haired arriving in the americas and teaching the natives astronomy and mathmatics, they talk of the land of mu, they said they would be back they spoke of many lands they visited.. who is to say they dident visit bosnia. and these people are menontned in most pyramid cultures.

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