[Merged] The Bosnian Pyramid Thread

[Bosanchero]

So far, I think a lot of the pictures show just a road/path that looks like having been built by the Romans, with some structures around it here and there. However, when they uncover this hill, or pyramid, more, we will see if it really is a pyramid or just some regular structures on a hill.

On a sidenote, am I the only one who thinks that in some photos the "pyramid" looks like the pyramid with an eye that is the symbol used by freemasons? I am not thinking this has anything to do with freemasons, in fact I don't think it does, but it still looks like the same pyramid that is in the dollar bills etc

what puzzles me is the fact that everywhere they dig on "pyramid of moon"(hill) they seem to run into some type of "Roman road/path"

lol

i cant wait to see the end of this, , ,

also what is really interesting about this touchy subject is that some of the HARDCORE sceptics seem to want to STOP the digging on the hills,

if they trully dont belive that there is something here, if all of this is made up, dont you want to be RIGHT if nothing comes out of this ???

[louie]

I agree, if they truly believe there is nothing there they should be encourging the digs to prove there is nothing to be found.

[DieChecker]

I still think that they should dig on the nearby hills and in the valley. If they find more such structures then maybe it is natural. If not then this is clearly man made.

It could be a while before anyone gets around to it, but I think it is a good idea.

[dimensional]

interesting!!!

[louie]

I still think that they should dig on the nearby hills and in the valley. If they find more such structures then maybe it is natural. If not then this is clearly man made.

It could be a while before anyone gets around to it, but I think it is a good idea.

yeah i agree with you,, but itll take time..

[intrepid]

only 10 pics per comment alowed so i had to make another replly

These pictures are greatly appreciated, as they help me convince myself that this really could be Europes link to the world of Pyramids!

I still wonder though, how long will it take before the pyramid-theory becomes officially accepted?

[Bosanchero]

yeah i agree with you,, but itll take time..

my friends you must understand, this is a country torn up by war, half of thses hills are MINE FIELDS, that 3rd Piramidal Hill will not even be worked on, due to the fact that there are so many explosive devices all over the hill and foundation doesnt want to get anyone in any kind of danger, expecially people that come to help them out ,,,

I still wonder though, how long will it take before the pyramid-theory becomes officially accepted?

the fact is that sceptics on the idea will be scepticall untill most of the hill/hills are uncovered

[Aragon]

moon pyramid

[louie]

beautiful stonework... thanks for the pics

[edo bg]

sceptics will always be sceptics, and if you don't believe there is something there by now, you never will.

[Daughter of the Nine Moons]

edo bg, it's not that people do not believe that something man-made is there it just that some believe what is being excavated is not a pyramid but instead the ruins of a (documented) medieval fort

[Bosanchero]

edo bg, it's not that people do not believe that something man-made is there it just that some believe what is being excavated is not a pyramid but instead the ruins of a (documented) medieval fort

people however need to realize that MOST of the images that you see on this forums are PYRAMID OF MOON,NOT that of pyramid of SUN, (Sorry DOTNM)

difference between these two is this

PYRAMID of sun is the one with HUGE STONE BLOCKS, and nothing but those BLOCKS

on top of this pyramid is the MEDIVAL FORT

PICTURES of ROMAN path/road and the rectangular building, and wall, are the once of PYRAMID OF MOON, there is no FORT here

Edited July 17, 2006 by Bosanchero

[Daughter of the Nine Moons]

people however need to realize that MOST of the images that you see on this forums are PYRAMID OF MOON, that one pyramid of sun,

true...

[edo bg]

It was probably that ilirs made the structures that we are talking about, and then the romans built on top of it and then later medieval kings built on top of what the romans did.

That is one thing about Bosnia. Nothing goes to waste. And for all u sceptics. What about thoose stone balls found all over Bosnia. The only other place they are found is South America. I guess they were placed there by some greater civilization (Romans, English,..) there is no way that us primitive Bosnians could do anything else but kill each other... right. It is obvious that there was a complex civilization in Bosnia way before most people think. Now how long ago that is what needs to be determined.

[Stardrive]

I agree, if they truly believe there is nothing there they should be encourging the digs to prove there is nothing to be found.

I agree. Another thing to consider, the more they dig the more they find. The more they find the more they cry foul. The more they cry foul the more it makes me think that some people fear losing credibility for passing over an opportunity of a lifetime. Great rewards are not gained without great risks. Time will tell. Thanks for the interesting pics Bosanchero.

[Essan]

And for all u sceptics. What about thoose stone balls found all over Bosnia. The only other place they are found is South America. I guess they were placed there by some greater civilization (Romans, English,..) there is no way that us primitive Bosnians could do anything else but kill each other... right.

Actually, like similar 'balls' found in many parts of the world, they were placed there millions of years ago by mother nature.

There's a good reason why some of the pictures of these balls show them still firmly embedded in the bedrock .....

Geologist Paul Heinrich has written an article on the Subject:- http://www.hallofmaat.com/read.php?1,40631...6316#msg-406316

[louie]

Actually, like similar 'balls' found in many parts of the world, they were placed there millions of years ago by mother nature.

There's a good reason why some of the pictures of these balls show them still firmly embedded in the bedrock .....

Geologist Paul Heinrich has written an article on the Subject:- http://www.hallofmaat.com/read.php?1,40631...6316#msg-406316

what other countrys have these stone balls.. ive only ever heard of then being in south america and now bosnia.

[Daughter of the Nine Moons]

According to the article there are stone balls in:

Cerro Piedras Bola region of Mexico; (megaspherulites, natural, volcanic)

Silver Cliff, Colorado; (megaspherulites, natural, volcanic)

Steens Mountain, Oregon; (megaspherulites, natural, volcanic)

near Klondyke, Arizona; (megaspherulites, natural, volcanic)

Ahualulco del Mercado, Jalisco state, Mexico; (megaspherulites, natural, volcanic)

Costa Rica; (granodiorite, manmade)

Arkansas; (concretions, formed naturally)

New Zealand; (concretions, formed naturally)

North Dakota; (concretions, formed naturally)

(and many other places)

Thanks for the article Essan

[edo bg]

mother nature creates many wonders. Stone balls not being one of them. There is no question that they are man made. And if you think that what is found in bosnia is a natural phenomenon then the pyramids in Egypt are too. Parthenon was made by nature too. Need i go on?

[Daughter of the Nine Moons]

Did you even read the article? Only the Costa Rican stone balls are man made

Here is what is referenced (even gives you page numbers so that you can look it up)

Cited and Other References About Megaspherulites

Smith, R. K., Tremallo, R. L., and Lofgren, G. E., 2000,

Megaspherulite growth: far from equilibrium crystallization.

paper presented in Session TS-29 How Do Magmas Solidify? II,

"GeoCanada 2000 - The Millennium Geoscience Summit" Meeting

of the Canadian Society of Exploration Geophysicists.

Smith, R. K., Tremallo, R. L., and Lofgren, G. E., 2001, Growth of

megaspherulites in a rhyolitic vitrophyre. American Mineralogist.

vol. 86, no. 5-6, pp. 589-600.

Stirling, M.W., 1969, Solving the mystery of Mexico's great

stone spheres. National Geographic. vol. 136, no. 2, pp. 295-300.

Tremallo, R. L., 1998, Late Eocene to early Oligocene

megaspherulites from a rhyolitic vitrophyre, Silver Cliff, Custer

County, Colorado; their mineralogy, geochemistry and petrogenesis.

Unpublished Master's thesis, University of Texas, San Antonio,

Texas, 156 pp.

Tremallo, R. L., Smith, R. K., and Lofgren, G. E., 1998, Late

Eocene to Early Oligocene megaspherulites From a rhyolitic

vitrophyre, Silver Cliff, Custer County, Colorado: Their Mineralogy,

Geochemistry, and Petrogenesis. Paper given at the Volcanology,

Geochemistry, and Petrology Session of the 1998 American Geophysical

Union Annual Meeting, Dec. 6-10, 1998, San Francisco, California.

Note: a 3 MB PDF version of smith et al. (2001) can be downloaded

from [www.minsocam.org] and the abstract can be found

at [ammin.geoscienceworld.org]

Examples of comparable natural concretions, which are identical to

the Bosnian stone balls in their physical characteristics, have been

described from all over the world. They include examples of natural

concretions from Arkansas illustrated in:

Hanson, W. D., and J. M. Howard, 2005, Spherical boulders in

north-central Arkansas. Arkansas Geological Commission

Miscellaneous Publication no. 22, 16 pp.

This paper can be downloaded from [www.state.ar.us].

++ Cannonball Concretions, North Dakota ++

The cannonball concretions, from which the Cannonball River gets

its name, of North Dakota are examples of natural concretions,

which are essentially identical to the "stone balls" of Bosnia.

The cannonball concretions of North Dakota are as large as 10 feet

(3 meters) in diameter. A typical picture of a cannonball

concretion can be found in "Cannonball Concretions" at

[nd.water.usgs.gov].

The nature and origin of cannonball concretions is discussed in:

Feldmann, Rodney M., 1997, Theodore Roosevelt National Park. in A.

G. Harris, E. Tuttle, and S. D. Tuttle, eds., pp. 127-135,

Geology of National Parks. Kendall/Hunt Publishing Company,

Dubuque, Iowa.

More pictures of cannonball concretions can found in "A Photographic

Journey up the Missouri River in North Dakota - Lake Oahe to the

Cannonball River at [nd.water.usgs.gov]

Additional pictures of cannonball concretions can be seen in

"concretions" at [www.rocksforkids.com].

Another article about concretions is "Concretions" at the

Desert USA web site is [www.desertusa.com].

Published peer-reviewed papers, which discuss in detail examples

of natural stone balls, which are spheroidal (cannonball) concretions,

found in Wyoming, Utah, Spitsbergen, and Alexander island, Antarctica

are:

McBride, E. F., Picard, M. D., Milliken, K. M., 2003, Calcite-

cemented concretions in Cretaceous sandstone, Wyoming and Utah,

U.S.A. Journal of Sedimentary Research. vol. 73, no. 3. pp. 462-483.

Horne, R. R.., and Taylor, B. J., 1969, Calcareous concretions in

the lower Cretaceous sediments of south-eastern Alexander island.

British Antarctic Survey Bulletin. vol. 21, pp. 19-32.

Krajewski, K. P., and Luks, B., 2003, Origin of 'cannon-ball'

concretions in the Carolinefjellet Formation (Lower Cretaceous),

Spitsbergen. Polish Polar Research. vol. 24, no. 3-4, pp. 217-242.

Boles, J. R., Landis, C. A., and Dale, P., 1985, The Moeraki

boulders; anatomy of some septarian concretions. Journal of

Sedimentary Petrology. vol. 55, no. 3, pp. 398-406.

Brunsden, Denys, 1969, Mystery of the Moeraki and Katiki boulders.

Geographical Magazine London. vol. 41, no. 11, pp. 839-843

Forsyth, P. J., and Coates, G., 1992, The Moeraki boulders.

Institute of Geological & Nuclear Sciences, Lower Hutt,

New Zealand.

Klug, H., and Zakrzewski, R., 1986, Die Moeraki Boulders;

riesenkonkretionen am strand auf Neuseelands Suedinsel [The Moeraki

boulders; giant concretions of the beach of New Zealand's South

Island.Schriften des Naturwissenschaftlichen Vereins fuer

Schleswig-Holstein. vol. 56, pp. 47-52

Thyne, Geoffrey D., and Boles, James R., 1989, Isotopic evidence

for origin of the Moeraki septarian concretions, New Zealand.

Journal of Sedimentary Petrology. vol. 59, no. 2, pp. 272-279

[edo bg]

Did you even read the article? Only the Costa Rican stone balls are man made

Here is what is referenced (even gives you page numbers so that you can look it up)

Cited and Other References About Megaspherulites

Smith, R. K., Tremallo, R. L., and Lofgren, G. E., 2000,

Megaspherulite growth: far from equilibrium crystallization.

paper presented in Session TS-29 How Do Magmas Solidify? II,

"GeoCanada 2000 - The Millennium Geoscience Summit" Meeting

of the Canadian Society of Exploration Geophysicists.

Smith, R. K., Tremallo, R. L., and Lofgren, G. E., 2001, Growth of

megaspherulites in a rhyolitic vitrophyre. American Mineralogist.

vol. 86, no. 5-6, pp. 589-600.

Stirling, M.W., 1969, Solving the mystery of Mexico's great

stone spheres. National Geographic. vol. 136, no. 2, pp. 295-300.

Tremallo, R. L., 1998, Late Eocene to early Oligocene

megaspherulites from a rhyolitic vitrophyre, Silver Cliff, Custer

County, Colorado; their mineralogy, geochemistry and petrogenesis.

Unpublished Master's thesis, University of Texas, San Antonio,

Texas, 156 pp.

Tremallo, R. L., Smith, R. K., and Lofgren, G. E., 1998, Late

Eocene to Early Oligocene megaspherulites From a rhyolitic

vitrophyre, Silver Cliff, Custer County, Colorado: Their Mineralogy,

Geochemistry, and Petrogenesis. Paper given at the Volcanology,

Geochemistry, and Petrology Session of the 1998 American Geophysical

Union Annual Meeting, Dec. 6-10, 1998, San Francisco, California.

Note: a 3 MB PDF version of smith et al. (2001) can be downloaded

from [www.minsocam.org] and the abstract can be found

at [ammin.geoscienceworld.org]

Examples of comparable natural concretions, which are identical to

the Bosnian stone balls in their physical characteristics, have been

described from all over the world. They include examples of natural

concretions from Arkansas illustrated in:

Hanson, W. D., and J. M. Howard, 2005, Spherical boulders in

north-central Arkansas. Arkansas Geological Commission

Miscellaneous Publication no. 22, 16 pp.

This paper can be downloaded from [www.state.ar.us].

++ Cannonball Concretions, North Dakota ++

The cannonball concretions, from which the Cannonball River gets

its name, of North Dakota are examples of natural concretions,

which are essentially identical to the "stone balls" of Bosnia.

The cannonball concretions of North Dakota are as large as 10 feet

(3 meters) in diameter. A typical picture of a cannonball

concretion can be found in "Cannonball Concretions" at

[nd.water.usgs.gov].

The nature and origin of cannonball concretions is discussed in:

Feldmann, Rodney M., 1997, Theodore Roosevelt National Park. in A.

G. Harris, E. Tuttle, and S. D. Tuttle, eds., pp. 127-135,

Geology of National Parks. Kendall/Hunt Publishing Company,

Dubuque, Iowa.

More pictures of cannonball concretions can found in "A Photographic

Journey up the Missouri River in North Dakota - Lake Oahe to the

Cannonball River at [nd.water.usgs.gov]

Additional pictures of cannonball concretions can be seen in

"concretions" at [www.rocksforkids.com].

Another article about concretions is "Concretions" at the

Desert USA web site is [www.desertusa.com].

Published peer-reviewed papers, which discuss in detail examples

of natural stone balls, which are spheroidal (cannonball) concretions,

found in Wyoming, Utah, Spitsbergen, and Alexander island, Antarctica

are:

McBride, E. F., Picard, M. D., Milliken, K. M., 2003, Calcite-

cemented concretions in Cretaceous sandstone, Wyoming and Utah,

U.S.A. Journal of Sedimentary Research. vol. 73, no. 3. pp. 462-483.

Horne, R. R.., and Taylor, B. J., 1969, Calcareous concretions in

the lower Cretaceous sediments of south-eastern Alexander island.

British Antarctic Survey Bulletin. vol. 21, pp. 19-32.

Krajewski, K. P., and Luks, B., 2003, Origin of 'cannon-ball'

concretions in the Carolinefjellet Formation (Lower Cretaceous),

Spitsbergen. Polish Polar Research. vol. 24, no. 3-4, pp. 217-242.

Boles, J. R., Landis, C. A., and Dale, P., 1985, The Moeraki

boulders; anatomy of some septarian concretions. Journal of

Sedimentary Petrology. vol. 55, no. 3, pp. 398-406.

Brunsden, Denys, 1969, Mystery of the Moeraki and Katiki boulders.

Geographical Magazine London. vol. 41, no. 11, pp. 839-843

Forsyth, P. J., and Coates, G., 1992, The Moeraki boulders.

Institute of Geological & Nuclear Sciences, Lower Hutt,

New Zealand.

Klug, H., and Zakrzewski, R., 1986, Die Moeraki Boulders;

riesenkonkretionen am strand auf Neuseelands Suedinsel [The Moeraki

boulders; giant concretions of the beach of New Zealand's South

Island.Schriften des Naturwissenschaftlichen Vereins fuer

Schleswig-Holstein. vol. 56, pp. 47-52

Thyne, Geoffrey D., and Boles, James R., 1989, Isotopic evidence

for origin of the Moeraki septarian concretions, New Zealand.

Journal of Sedimentary Petrology. vol. 59, no. 2, pp. 272-279

only one problem with your theory... In bosnia they are found where there is no rock formations, just earth, and hills, no rocks, so try again with your explanation, but this time do more research.

[Daughter of the Nine Moons]

mother nature creates many wonders. Stone balls not being one of them. There is no question that they are man made. And if you think that what is found in bosnia is a natural phenomenon then the pyramids in Egypt are too. Parthenon was made by nature too. Need i go on?

edo bg, easy with the attitude. In your statement above you say stone balls are not natural. I have listed many references (as per the link posted by essan) to refute your claim that stone balls are man-made. If you read my previous post, in reply to louis' question about stone balls found elsewhere in the world I stated that in Costa Rica they have proven that the stone balls are man-made however all the other locations (listed) they are natural geological formations. I made no claims regarding the Bosnian stone balls.

only one problem with your theory... In bosnia they are found where there is no rock formations, just earth, and hills, no rocks, so try again with your explanation, but this time do more research.

You do realize that by "rock formations" we are discussing the stone balls. So I am not sure that I understand what your objection is.

Going forward there is no need to quote the previous post in its entirety. It is unnecessary and considered spam. J

[edo bg]

edo bg, easy with the attitude. In your statement above you say stone balls are not natural. I have listed many references (as per the link posted by essan) to refute your claim that stone balls are man-made. If you read my previous post, in reply to louis' question about stone balls found elsewhere in the world I stated that in Costa Rica they have proven that the stone balls are man-made however all the other locations (listed) they are natural geological formations. I made no claims regarding the Bosnian stone balls.

You do realize that by "rock formations" we are discussing the stone balls. So I am not sure that I understand what your objection is.

Going forward there is no need to quote the previous post in its entirety. It is unnecessary and considered spam. J

all i was saying was that if they were in a place where there is no natural rocks, somebody had to put them there.

[edo bg]

Sorry about the attitude. That's what living in USA for 11 years does to a man.

[Bosanchero]

Examples of comparable natural concretions, which are identical to

the Bosnian stone balls in their physical characteristics, have been

described from all over the world. They include examples of natural

concretions from Arkansas illustrated in:

could someone please post the name of the person/organization that EXAMINED and COMPARED bosnian stone balls to those of arkansas, and others in the world ???

i really want to see their work and how they came to this conclusion