[Merged] The Bosnian Pyramid Thread

[Helen of Annoy]

You know, Abramelin, reading that page or two of your attempts to describe Croats in Holland as “twisted by war” brought tears to my eyes.

Because that’s how amusing it is to read self-righteous, self-pitying and above all, malicious ramblings of poor, lonely guy that has no other company but those horrible Croats that call themselves Yugos ( !! ) and walk around with murderous look in their eyes.

Give me a break.

The only way you could stumble upon ex-soldiers only is if you work for that court in Hague, in which case you have my deepest sympathies, because your guilty conscience will eat you worse than those poor boys from your country’s military who unwillingly helped the Srebrenica massacre by their incompetence.

Croats never refer to themselves as “Yugos” and I’ll tell you why.

The idea of South Slavic unity is absolutely great, only it was never brought to life. What was brought to life was conglomerate state called Yugoslavia, that was Serboslavia in every practical aspect.

Details will follow if needed be.

I’m curious – just morbidly curious, it doesn’t really matter – what’s your story? Why are you so itchy about ex-Yu? Why is it so important to you to clump every sovereign nation back under the scornful term “Yugos”?

A Dutch should understand, since you do of course understand German, but – let me make a wild guess – wouldn’t agree to have your little country simply annexed by Germany, because that would make it easier for drunk people, they wouldn’t have to bother with your Dutchness, you’d be just another Kraut?

Just like Croatian and Serbian, Dutch and German are closely related languages and some could say they’re the same language. Same language, same nation. Same nation, same state. Same state, same history.

But they’re not.

I’m sorry I had to rub your nose in it, but next time term “Yugo” crosses your mind, I want this very post to follow it. Like Pavlovlev reflex... the ideal sequence would be: Yugos! twisted!... hmm... embarrassment? Why do I feel embarrassment?

Because I had to explain it for you that by undermining the sovereignty of my nation you’re directly undermining the sovereignty of your nation.

God, I hate slow people.

[Abramelin]

You know, Abramelin, reading that page or two of your attempts to describe Croats in Holland as “twisted by war” brought tears to my eyes.

Because that’s how amusing it is to read self-righteous, self-pitying and above all, malicious ramblings of poor, lonely guy that has no other company but those horrible Croats that call themselves Yugos ( !! ) and walk around with murderous look in their eyes.

Give me a break.

The only way you could stumble upon ex-soldiers only is if you work for that court in Hague, in which case you have my deepest sympathies, because your guilty conscience will eat you worse than those poor boys from your country’s military who unwillingly helped the Srebrenica massacre by their incompetence.

Croats never refer to themselves as “Yugos” and I’ll tell you why.

The idea of South Slavic unity is absolutely great, only it was never brought to life. What was brought to life was conglomerate state called Yugoslavia, that was Serboslavia in every practical aspect.

Details will follow if needed be.

I’m curious – just morbidly curious, it doesn’t really matter – what’s your story? Why are you so itchy about ex-Yu? Why is it so important to you to clump every sovereign nation back under the scornful term “Yugos”?

A Dutch should understand, since you do of course understand German, but – let me make a wild guess – wouldn’t agree to have your little country simply annexed by Germany, because that would make it easier for drunk people, they wouldn’t have to bother with your Dutchness, you’d be just another Kraut?

Just like Croatian and Serbian, Dutch and German are closely related languages and some could say they’re the same language. Same language, same nation. Same nation, same state. Same state, same history.

But they’re not.

I’m sorry I had to rub your nose in it, but next time term “Yugo” crosses your mind, I want this very post to follow it. Like Pavlovlev reflex... the ideal sequence would be: Yugos! twisted!... hmm... embarrassment? Why do I feel embarrassment?

Because I had to explain it for you that by undermining the sovereignty of my nation you’re directly undermining the sovereignty of your nation.

God, I hate slow people.

*I* and many Dutch call them Yugos. It's simply easier than Croat-Serb-Slovenian-Bosnian-etc-person.

I am not itchy about anything, I just answered.

And personally I dont give a **** about what you think of my ramblings. Maybe these guys are not ex-soldiers, ok. Then they are lying sons of b...

What's this guilt, LOL !! Why?

Now you gimme a break, and start digging for that pyramid.

[Helen of Annoy]

*I* and many Dutch call them Yugos. It's simply easier than Croat-Serb-Slovenian-Bosnian-etc-person.

I am not itchy about anything, I just answered.

And personally I dont give a **** about what you think of my ramblings. Maybe these guys are not ex-soldiers, ok. Then they are lying sons of b...

What's this guilt, LOL !! Why?

Now you gimme a break, and start digging for that pyramid.

Bigot and proud of it, huh?

Čega se pametan stidi, s tim se budala ponosi. (Of what is wise man ashamed, fool is proud of.)

I’m done with manual work for today, we should send you with that shovel tongue of yours to clear the place before one can say “foot in the mouth” or “derailing gone wrong”.

Go in peace, son.

[Big Bad Voodoo]

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Abramelin, I apologize if I said word or two wrong. You just hit me in the nerv. I felt war on my skin. Im Croat. And calling us Yugos is wrong man. Say that in Croatia and be sure you will get bottle in the head.

You are smart and clever guy. Just little hasty.

Please understand before one of us dies

EDIT: We are slavens. South slavens. From that came name Yugoslavia. Since Jug means South on Croatian and Serbian language. So Jug (South) Yug-oslavia.

Also Slovenian, Serbian, Bosnian, Croats, Macedonians and more lived in Yugoslavia.

We are all separate nations now as we were before Yugoslavia.

Croats are on Adriatic coast from 7 century dude.

We were then Croats, now Croats and always will be.

We all have different languages, different histories, different traditions, different religions...We all lived in our own territory. You must undersatnd history and geography...Dont listen Jozo and Mirko since they obviously didnt tell you truth.

However say hello to my friends...

Edited April 9, 2011 by the L

[Abramelin]

Bigot and proud of it, huh?

Čega se pametan stidi, s tim se budala ponosi. (Of what is wise man ashamed, fool is proud of.)

I’m done with manual work for today, we should send you with that shovel tongue of yours to clear the place before one can say “foot in the mouth” or “derailing gone wrong”.

Go in peace, son.

I have a swell idea: let's stick to the Bosnian pyramids, and let's not derail this thread.

If you have any axe to grind with me, please send me a pm, ok?

[Abramelin]

Abramelin, I apologize if I said word or two wrong. You just hit me in the nerv. I felt war on my skin. Im Croat. And calling us Yugos is wrong man. Say that in Croatia and be sure you will get bottle in the head.

You are smart and clever guy. Just little hasty.

Please understand before one of us dies

EDIT: We are slavens. South slavens. From that came name Yugoslavia. Since Jug means South on Croatian and Serbian language. So Jug (South) Yug-oslavia.

Also Slovenian, Serbian, Bosnian, Croats, Macedonians and more lived in Yugoslavia.

We are all separate nations now as we were before Yugoslavia.

Croats are on Adriatic coast from 7 century dude.

We were then Croats, now Croats and always will be.

We all have different languages, different histories, different traditions, different religions...We all lived in our own territory. You must undersatnd history and geography...Dont listen Jozo and Mirko since they obviously didnt tell you truth.

OK.

Just this: we Dutch mean no offence when we say "Yugo". Maybe we are just too lazy to call people by their proper names.

You wqill have to admit it's kind of hard for people who didn't live in ex-Yugoslavia to understand all the centuries old sentiments.

Well, I hope that settles it a bit.

[Big Bad Voodoo]

OK.

Just this: we Dutch mean no offence when we say "Yugo". Maybe we are just too lazy to call people by their proper names.

You wqill have to admit it's kind of hard for people who didn't live in ex-Yugoslavia to understand all the centuries old sentiments.

Well, I hope that settles it a bit.

Hey Abramelin in World cup 1998 in France Holland loose from which country for third place?

Im sure you all remember that.

I understand your point of view but its wrong.

[Abramelin]

Hey Abramelin in World cup 1998 in France Holland loose from which country for third place?

Im sure you all remember that.

I understand your point of view but its wrong.

You will never catch me saying you people are bad soccer players; there are several playing in Dutch teams, and they are excellent players and the crowd in the stadions go mad when they score. No problems with that at all !

OK, maybe I am wrong about what I said, but I am blunt, and talk from experience, be it a narrow experience.

What do you think? Could we stop about this and focuss on the topic of this thread?

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EDIT:

Let me put it more clearly: my excuses to those I may have offended.

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Edited April 9, 2011 by Abramelin

[Helen of Annoy]

You will never catch me saying you people are bad soccer players; there are several playing in Dutch teams, and they are excellent players and the crowd in the stadions go mad when they score. No problems with that at all !

OK, maybe I am wrong about what I said, but I am blunt, and talk from experience, be it a narrow experience.

What do you think? Could we stop about this and focuss on the topic of this thread?

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EDIT:

Let me put it more clearly: my excuses to those I may have offended.

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OMG, a gentleman!

I thought you’ve gone extinct.

My apologies too, for contributing to the derail fest

Pyramids only

And since I’m still not sure what’s exactly in Visoko, I’ll shut up until there’s any news.

[odas]

OK.

Just this: we Dutch mean no offence when we say "Yugo". Maybe we are just too lazy to call people by their proper names.

You wqill have to admit it's kind of hard for people who didn't live in ex-Yugoslavia to understand all the centuries old sentiments.

Well, I hope that settles it a bit.

You are not lazy, it is the funny smelly stuff you guys are smoking.

L and Helen are right. We are not yugos but to your defence people from this area were alway been called yugos without any intend to harm.

So chill out everyone. The dutch will understand it someday.

[Abramelin]

You are not lazy, it is the funny smelly stuff you guys are smoking.

L and Helen are right. We are not yugos but to your defence people from this area were alway been called yugos without any intend to harm.

So chill out everyone. The dutch will understand it someday.

I dont smoke that stuff, but I can get 20 different brands within 15 minutes if I want to.

Yep, we Dutch will understand someday, but only if we become interested enough in petty medieval fights.

We are not, so don't hold your breath.

Play soccer, THAT is what you people excel in, jesus.

Or go dig up that ****ing pyramid.

Bye, I am drunk, I had a good time with Mirko, and now I am going to pass out.

[Big Bad Voodoo]

...What do you think? Could we stop about this and focuss on the topic of this thread?...

I agree. It is okay. I already moved on. See you around on other threads.

[theDragon]

First of all, I've just spent like 2 hours reading the comments here. I must say that I mostly understand the skepticism since I'm a skeptic since 2006. But I've changed my mind like 10 times until now, and I've even attended Semir's presentation in Mostar like a few months ago. What they have found is astounishing, there are numerous pictures which stir my mind. There are even results by geological institutes that the blocks are made of CONCRETE. If that's so, and I believe in the research team's competency, then the blocks can't be natural, since nature can't make concrete blocks

However, there are a lot of logical explanations that this could be just another hill, but we can't ignore the fact that they have found concrete blocks there. For me, the most logical way of thinking is that the hill was reshaped in the pyramidal shape on purpose. How did they make the concrete blocks, and how did they transport them, that's unknown to me, but the fact that there are tunnels underneath the whole valley makes it a little bit more comparable to Egypt's pyramidal complex which also has pyramids and tunnels under the pyramid valley. That's not a valid proof, I know, but I can't ignore the fact that there are concrete blocks on that hill!

Edited April 23, 2011 by theDragon

[Abramelin]

First of all, I've just spent like 2 hours reading the comments here. I must say that I mostly understand the skepticism since I'm a skeptic since 2006. But I've changed my mind like 10 times until now, and I've even attended Semir's presentation in Mostar like a few months ago. What they have found is astounishing, there are numerous pictures which stir my mind. There are even results by geological institutes that the blocks are made of CONCRETE. If that's so, and I believe in the research team's competency, then the blocks can't be natural, since nature can't make concrete blocks

However, there are a lot of logical explanations that this could be just another hill, but we can't ignore the fact that they have found concrete blocks there. For me, the most logical way of thinking is that the hill was reshaped in the pyramidal shape on purpose. How did they make the concrete blocks, and how did they transport them, that's unknown to me, but the fact that there are tunnels underneath the whole valley makes it a little bit more comparable to Egypt's pyramidal complex which also has pyramids and tunnels under the pyramid valley. That's not a valid proof, I know, but I can't ignore the fact that there are concrete blocks on that hill!

Many if not all of those 'concrete blocks' are natural formed blocks.

The 'fact' that there are tunnels doesn't prove a thing: they most probably date from a lot more recent times. During medieval times, but also during Roman times this hill was built on, and IN.

A lot of people's skepticism is also based on Semir's weird theories about the Mayans and their pyramids.

For many it's like hearing Von Däniken announce a 'great discovery'... like, "yeah, right".

[+DieChecker]

First of all, I've just spent like 2 hours reading the comments here. I must say that I mostly understand the skepticism since I'm a skeptic since 2006. But I've changed my mind like 10 times until now, and I've even attended Semir's presentation in Mostar like a few months ago. What they have found is astounishing, there are numerous pictures which stir my mind. There are even results by geological institutes that the blocks are made of CONCRETE. If that's so, and I believe in the research team's competency, then the blocks can't be natural, since nature can't make concrete blocks

However, there are a lot of logical explanations that this could be just another hill, but we can't ignore the fact that they have found concrete blocks there. For me, the most logical way of thinking is that the hill was reshaped in the pyramidal shape on purpose. How did they make the concrete blocks, and how did they transport them, that's unknown to me, but the fact that there are tunnels underneath the whole valley makes it a little bit more comparable to Egypt's pyramidal complex which also has pyramids and tunnels under the pyramid valley. That's not a valid proof, I know, but I can't ignore the fact that there are concrete blocks on that hill!

Where ever you heard that concrete does not occur naturally is wrong. Natural concrete spheres and slabs are found world wide. They are created when fine clays, similar to what is used in construction concrete, filter in amongst larger stones and pebbles and petrefies that way, similar to limestone, or sandstone with small water deposited stones in it. A Conctretion is when the fine material hardens around a hard center. Conglomates are when the same thing happens in a slab form.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concretion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Roosevelt_National_Park

Look half way up on this pic on the left and you will see the natural concrete slabs.

Conglomarate is basically stones of various sizes held in a matrix by a fine sand stone, claystone, or mudstone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conglomerate_(geology)

All of these are consistant with the known geology of Bosnia, which all the Bosnian geologists agreed on about 2 weeks after Semir discovered those concrete slabs back in 2005 (2006?).

If Semir cared to, he could go find similar "concrete" blocks across the whole of the Balkans.

[Oniomancer]

First of all, I've just spent like 2 hours reading the comments here. I must say that I mostly understand the skepticism since I'm a skeptic since 2006. But I've changed my mind like 10 times until now, and I've even attended Semir's presentation in Mostar like a few months ago. What they have found is astounishing, there are numerous pictures which stir my mind. There are even results by geological institutes that the blocks are made of CONCRETE. If that's so, and I believe in the research team's competency, then the blocks can't be natural, since nature can't make concrete blocks

However, there are a lot of logical explanations that this could be just another hill, but we can't ignore the fact that they have found concrete blocks there. For me, the most logical way of thinking is that the hill was reshaped in the pyramidal shape on purpose. How did they make the concrete blocks, and how did they transport them, that's unknown to me, but the fact that there are tunnels underneath the whole valley makes it a little bit more comparable to Egypt's pyramidal complex which also has pyramids and tunnels under the pyramid valley. That's not a valid proof, I know, but I can't ignore the fact that there are concrete blocks on that hill!

Yeah...about this "concrete" and the analysis thereof:

http://irna.lautre.net/A-concrete-tale.html

Edit: Take special note of the "all that nature cannot do" link at the bottom.

Edited April 26, 2011 by Oniomancer

[odas]

Yeah...about this "concrete" and the analysis thereof:

http://irna.lautre.net/A-concrete-tale.html

Edit: Take special note of the "all that nature cannot do" link at the bottom.

I will not argue weather it is a pyramid or not but the link you gave is a proven anti-bosnian site. This site is a facsistic site which denies the Bosnian statehood.

So much for the credibility.

I rather have you posted something new from Anthony Harding or someone else credible who does not believe in the pyramids.

[odas]

Double post, sorry.

Edited April 26, 2011 by odas

[Abramelin]

I will not argue weather it is a pyramid or not but the link you gave is a proven anti-bosnian site. This site is a facsistic site which denies the Bosnian statehood.

So much for the credibility.

I rather have you posted something new from Anthony Harding or someone else credible who does not believe in the pyramids.

It's a skeptic site about the Bosnian pyramids.

AND a French site.

Show us where this site is fascistic.

I am getting REALLY tired of those petty fights between ex-Yugoslavians.

And believe me, I do know what I am talking about.

I have had Bosnians, Serbians, Croats and whoever in my house... at the same time.

They are never too tired to bicker about things that happened ages ago.

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Edited April 26, 2011 by Abramelin

[Big Bad Voodoo]

I am getting REALLY tired of those petty fights between ex-Yugoslavians.

Who isnt. But Odas have right on his opinion. Also you must understand that is very turbolent area trough history. It is crossroad. It is a place where WW1 started. Keep that in mind. Tell Palestinian to stop fight for his country.

Back on pyramid for 7th time. I never heard about concrete blocks in Visoko.

[Abramelin]

Who isnt. But Odas have right on his opinion. Also you must understand that is very turbolent area trough history. It is crossroad. It is a place where WW1 started. Keep that in mind. Tell Palestinian to stop fight for his country.

Back on pyramid for 7th time. I never heard about concrete blocks in Visoko.

Do *I* have a right to post MY opinion??

I do know ex-Yugoslavia was a turbulent area for many centuries.

And **EDIT** the Palestinians.

OK, I better stop, or I will be banned.

**You are correct.**

Edited April 27, 2011 by aquatus1

[Big Bad Voodoo]

Do *I* have a right to post MY opinion??

I do know ex-Yugoslavia was a turbulent area for many centuries.

And **EDIT** the Palestinians.

OK, I better stop, or I will be banned.

Cheers Abramelin. Back on pyramid.

You can say your opinion ofcourse.

Edited April 27, 2011 by aquatus1

[Helen of Annoy]

Who isnt. But Odas have right on his opinion. Also you must understand that is very turbolent area trough history. It is crossroad. It is a place where WW1 started. Keep that in mind. Tell Palestinian to stop fight for his country.

Back on pyramid for 7th time. I never heard about concrete blocks in Visoko.

Just ignore him, he feeds on crumbs of other people’s frustration. The fact that it’s his desperate rudeness that frustrates people doesn’t bother him, as long as someone talks to him… poor soul. Trapped among Bosnians, Croats and Serbs. All together in his apartment

Natural concrete? Sure.

But does it come in blocks with rectangular sides?

I know that natural formations can be surprisingly symmetrical, I'd like to know if it's possible to have natural concrete naturally cracked not only as a surface with cracks down the depth of a layer, but also between layers.

[Abramelin]

Just ignore him, he feeds on crumbs of other peoples frustration. The fact that its his desperate rudeness that frustrates people doesnt bother him, as long as someone talks to him… poor soul. Trapped among Bosnians, Croats and Serbs. All together in his apartment

Natural concrete? Sure.

But does it come in blocks with rectangular sides?

I know that natural formations can be surprisingly symmetrical, I'd like to know if it's possible to have natural concrete naturally cracked not only as a surface with cracks down the depth of a layer, but also between layers.

I expected your reply, Helen.

But I have no beaf with people from ex-Yugoslavia, they do not need me at all to fight out their own ages old petty fights.

But I was there, watching them arguing.

And you pretend to have psychological knowledge, but all you do is TEASE (I am glad to say I have met more mature and more intelligent ex-Yugoslavian women).

That's kid's play.

Now go dig, and show us that you ex-Yugoslavs own the oldest pyramids in the world.

I for one would love to see real proof of that.

Edited April 26, 2011 by Abramelin

[Harte]

Natural concrete? Sure.

But does it come in blocks with rectangular sides?

Yes, it does.

I know that natural formations can be surprisingly symmetrical, I'd like to know if it's possible to have natural concrete naturally cracked not only as a surface with cracks down the depth of a layer, but also between layers.

Yes, it is.

Next question please.

Harte