[Merged] The Bosnian Pyramid Thread

[SamDavies]

BOSNIA PYRAMID Site referring to Dr Sam Osmanagic who believes that the Bosnia Pyramid is a built, not natural, structure. He and others are conducting a lecture 4-14 Spetember 2012, following three months of planned excavation work for the months of June-August of this year having won a court battle with the minister of Culture and Sport in Bosnia who blocked him since 2005.

So soon we will have the jury back on this one.

A couple of paragraphs from above site are as follows:

The Sun Pyramid: with its height of over 220 meters is the tallest pyramid in the World. It has regular pyramid geometry with three preserved sides: north, east and west. It is coated by rectangular blocks. According to the Institutes for materials from Bosnia-Herzegovina (2006-2008) and Politecnico di Torino from Italy (2009) blocks are made from the best quality concrete material superior to modern concretes.

According to the State Institute for Geodesy (2006) northern side perfectly matches the Cosmic North with the error of less than one degree. Slope of the pyramid sides to the base is at the 45 degrees. German geophysicists confirmed in 2007 existence of the inner passageways using geo-radar instruments. Croatian physicists detected (2010) existence of the energy beam coming through the top of the pyramid with the radius of 4,5 meters. Italian and Finish experts measured (2011) ultrasound phenomenon on the top of the pyramid as well.

Shadow of the Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun covers Bosnian Pyramid of the Moon during the summer months just before the sunset, showing clear astronomical relationship between two pyramids. This pyramid is covered by soil and vegetation like hundreds pyramids in China, Mexico or Guatemala. According to the Federal Institute of Pedology layers of soil that cover the pyramid is approx. 12.000 years old. It makes this pyramid oldest pyramid on the Planet. Tens of thousands of tourists from all over the World are attracted by the pyramid discovery and its energy and spiritual properties.

Please note that any pictures on any site of this Bosnia Pyramid showing a beam of light shooting into the sky is an artist impression not an actual photo as the energy reported coming from the pyramid is not visible to the human eye, such as with radio and microwaves. Remember the days of sitting in class as teacher drew squiggly wavy lines to represent light waves and the likes. Same thing. Thanks.

[Swede]

BOSNIA PYRAMID Site referring to Dr Sam Osmanagic who believes that the Bosnia Pyramid is a built, not natural, structure. He and others are conducting a lecture 4-14 Spetember 2012, following three months of planned excavation work for the months of June-August of this year having won a court battle with the minister of Culture and Sport in Bosnia who blocked him since 2005.

So soon we will have the jury back on this one.

A couple of paragraphs from above site are as follows:

The Sun Pyramid: with its height of over 220 meters is the tallest pyramid in the World. It has regular pyramid geometry with three preserved sides: north, east and west. It is coated by rectangular blocks. According to the Institutes for materials from Bosnia-Herzegovina (2006-2008) and Politecnico di Torino from Italy (2009) blocks are made from the best quality concrete material superior to modern concretes.

According to the State Institute for Geodesy (2006) northern side perfectly matches the Cosmic North with the error of less than one degree. Slope of the pyramid sides to the base is at the 45 degrees. German geophysicists confirmed in 2007 existence of the inner passageways using geo-radar instruments. Croatian physicists detected (2010) existence of the energy beam coming through the top of the pyramid with the radius of 4,5 meters. Italian and Finish experts measured (2011) ultrasound phenomenon on the top of the pyramid as well.

Shadow of the Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun covers Bosnian Pyramid of the Moon during the summer months just before the sunset, showing clear astronomical relationship between two pyramids. This pyramid is covered by soil and vegetation like hundreds pyramids in China, Mexico or Guatemala. According to the Federal Institute of Pedology layers of soil that cover the pyramid is approx. 12.000 years old. It makes this pyramid oldest pyramid on the Planet. Tens of thousands of tourists from all over the World are attracted by the pyramid discovery and its energy and spiritual properties.

Please note that any pictures on any site of this Bosnia Pyramid showing a beam of light shooting into the sky is an artist impression not an actual photo as the energy reported coming from the pyramid is not visible to the human eye, such as with radio and microwaves. Remember the days of sitting in class as teacher drew squiggly wavy lines to represent light waves and the likes. Same thing. Thanks.

Realize that you may be new to the topic. Some of this material has already been recently presented. A review of said material should give you a bit better perspective.

http://www.archaeolo...cts/bosnia.html

http://www.archaeolo...gic/update.html

http://www.archaeolo...agic/index.html

http://www.robertsch...te%20Dowell.htm

http://www.robertsch...%20Pyramids.htm

http://www.smithsoni...html?c=y&page=4

http://www.robertsch...te%20Dowell.htm

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4140

As to his recently acquired doctorate, there is some interesting information relating to the credibility of such, should you find this aspect to be of interest.

Edit: Upon brief reflection, information regarding his recent doctorate may also be of immediate interest. One may wish to explore the other elements of this source.

http://irna.lautre.n...-academies.html

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Edited February 24, 2012 by Swede

[SamDavies]

Realize that you may be new to the topic. Some of this material has already been recently presented. A review of said material should give you a bit better perspective.

As I am used to 'professionals' and those with creditations mostly being real liars and b*******, I really do not take much notice of pieces of paper. So like with everyone else, I sit back and give Dr Osmanagic the benefit of the doubt that too many did not afford myself. See what he and his collegues have to show at the end of August. I just do not understand why anyone would put their entire future reputation on the line, and others join themselves to such an individual, if they had nothing to show. I live in a place where some will stop at nothing to destroy good person's reputation and career only to find out later the victim was inoccent. I am one such victim and i shall remain so thanks to all those professionals with their credentials that they used to wave around to blind gulible people to what they were/are doing to me. I am now permenently crippled and continue to degenerate.

I do not believe that Dr Osmanagic is out for 15 minutes of fame if anyone wants to say this about him. I personally believe that no one would put so much energy into going to court so they can do a thorough examination of a group of pyramids if he did not have something credible to present. Those that blocked him for so long know that he and others could hve looked at the pyramid quite closely without causing damage around the area. This tells me they had something to hide and were using their false concern as a smoke screen. And since I am surrounded by liars and those who cover up truths I do not put much credit in reports that some have been sent to have a look and have come back to say they saw nothing and thus discredit what Dr Osmanagic said. But we'll all know in September.

But thanks for the links, Swede, and like with most things I will have a look, as I'm finding it rather problematic finding info .

[Oniomancer]

As I am used to 'professionals' and those with creditations mostly being real liars and b*******, I really do not take much notice of pieces of paper. So like with everyone else, I sit back and give Dr Osmanagic the benefit of the doubt that too many did not afford myself. See what he and his collegues have to show at the end of August. I just do not understand why anyone would put their entire future reputation on the line, and others join themselves to such an individual, if they had nothing to show. I live in a place where some will stop at nothing to destroy good person's reputation and career only to find out later the victim was inoccent. I am one such victim and i shall remain so thanks to all those professionals with their credentials that they used to wave around to blind gulible people to what they were/are doing to me. I am now permenently crippled and continue to degenerate.

I do not believe that Dr Osmanagic is out for 15 minutes of fame if anyone wants to say this about him. I personally believe that no one would put so much energy into going to court so they can do a thorough examination of a group of pyramids if he did not have something credible to present.

Who says it's just fame he's looking for? He's already written at least one kook book on the Mayans and his clear intent is to use the site as tourism center benefiting both the local economy and his own ends. That's plenty of motivation right there and his willingness to not only support fringe gobbledygook like ley lines and use them to support his own conclusions but distort and outright lie about his findings shows he's not terribly concerned about his reputation. (WTF is "cosmic north" anyway?)

Those that blocked him for so long know that he and others could hve looked at the pyramid quite closely without causing damage around the area. This tells me they had something to hide and were using their false concern as a smoke screen. And since I am surrounded by liars and those who cover up truths I do not put much credit in reports that some have been sent to have a look and have come back to say they saw nothing and thus discredit what Dr Osmanagic said. But we'll all know in September.

But thanks for the links, Swede, and like with most things I will have a look, as I'm finding it rather problematic finding info .

Ah, but that's just it, ossy doesn't know the meaning of looking without causing damage. He's excavating with a backhoe for crying out loud. It's simple. Did he or did he not say he wants to clear the whole mountain? are there or are there not archeologically sensitive sites on that mountain?

[DieChecker]

As I am used to 'professionals' and those with creditations mostly being real liars and b*******, I really do not take much notice of pieces of paper. So like with everyone else, I sit back and give Dr Osmanagic the benefit of the doubt that too many did not afford myself.

I think he used up his Benefit of the Doubt quite a long time ago. His earliest digging was intreging, but he quickly turned the subject into a sideshow carnival and has been running the circus ever since. The number of people who he's lied about and the number of purposefully ignorant connections he has grasped at are clear.

See what he and his collegues have to show at the end of August. I just do not understand why anyone would put their entire future reputation on the line, and others join themselves to such an individual, if they had nothing to show.

It is interesting that he has not taken what he can get and run. Perhaps he thinks to make this his crowning project? And thus he will not... Can Not... give it up. He's in too deep, as the saying goes.

I've been following this for years and have seen nothing to show that the blocks are anything other then natural concretions and layers of shales... as indeed exist on all the nearby hills, even the ones that are not Pyramids. So then what did Semir's ancients do? Cover every hill with blocks, and create every hill in the region with layers of shales?

Many of the Experts that have noticed "energy" differences are noted for being of the worst professional reputation. If there was real science to collect, I'm sure that if the data warrented it, top level researchers would decend on the site.

[SamDavies]

Thanks, Oniomancer and DieChecker.

In too deep is definitely a possibility for 'motive'. Even to the very sad extent that a person genuinely gets so delusional that they truel believe what they think is going to happen and when it doesn't they desperately look for who shifted the goal posts. Or when it doesn't happen they change the date or a few facts moving the goal posts themselves. Like my blasted ex cult. Their common line was 'The light gets bright and brighter', we just did not realise it was not yet at it's brightest point. Or, 'Armageddon was just around that corner. But it was ALWAYS the wrong corner'. It got so boring and stressful. So I learnt valuable lesson. Do not hold your breath over ANYTHING. Get on with life and take everything with a pinch of salt.

Ley lines and all the other line stuff I've been looking into and will continue to do so. Again drawing my own conclusions. But I do not see structures, monuments and so forth lying on lines and not all hilter skilter as a meer co incidence. The thing is why they are there and how. I've my own ideas that I will later share on relative threads. Again waiting for more info to come in, or find, that's been there for years but hadn't come upon it yet. Like I"ve said before. I like to keep the keys to any doors I've opened and closed just in case they need further reviewing. Even if its to show they were down right wrong. And when I'm on the wrong road I'm more than happy to recognise the fact and get off the garden path to nowhere.

[The Gremlin]

Sounds to me Sam that you've come to the right place, the residents here that have engaged you are level headed, no super-ego to feed, and just want to set you straight on this matter....they are bang on.

The site has historical importance, but this nutter would (if given a free reign)willfully destroy much of it.

anyways....iechyd da!

StuDavies

[Alisdair.MacDonald]

I'm glad i found this thread before starting another. I saw the 'documentary' on this and i found it to be interesting, but a bit one-sided. The archaeologist seemed to make a few valid points. Some of the supposed "bedrock patterns" did appear very similar to brick work of some sort.

I'm interested to know what the general consensus is on this one, so if anyone could summarize 90 pages of thread into a few sentences for me, that would be great. lol

[DieChecker]

I love this thread. It is the reason I registered on this site all those years ago.

In my opinion:

Semir Osmanagic noticed the shape of the hills in this Bosnian Valley and decided, as a amatuer archologist and believer in the Fantastic, that they were probably pyramids, and not hills. So he convinced the locals of his idea and drafted them into clearing earth, trees and anything else from various parts of the first hill. He even used construction equipment to dig into the hills. Finding blocks of stone he immediately declared the pyramid theory correct and issued statements world wide that he had found the largest pyramid in the world. The added coverage stirred up lots of debate and it became evident that the hills were hills and the stones were stones and that what Semir was doing was not archeology, but a road-show. Things have not dramatically improved archeology wise since, and the digging continues. The government stopped him from ruining actual ruins, and Semir claimed many experts supported him, but almost all have since fled from him. Dispite many being "Fringe" experts to begin with. It has become something of a archological Joke now. The very definition of a Giant Discovery that is announced yet has no ground beneath it. Much like the 1990s claim of cold fusion that turned out to be non-repeatable.

Edited June 7, 2012 by DieChecker

[Big Bad Voodoo]

I love this thread. It is the reason I registered on this site all those years ago.

In my opinion:

Semir Osmanagic noticed the shape of the hills in this Bosnian Valley and decided, as a amatuer archologist and believer in the Fantastic, that they were probably pyramids, and not hills. So he convinced the locals of his idea and drafted them into clearing earth, trees and anything else from various parts of the first hill. He even used construction equipment to dig into the hills. Finding blocks of stone he immediately declared the pyramid theory correct and issued statements world wide that he had found the largest pyramid in the world. The added coverage stirred up lots of debate and it became evident that the hills were hills and the stones were stones and that what Semir was doing was not archeology, but a road-show. Things have not dramatically improved archeology wise since, and the digging continues. The government stopped him from ruining actual ruins, and Semir claimed many experts supported him, but almost all have since fled from him. Dispite many being "Fringe" experts to begin with. It has become something of a archological Joke now. The very definition of a Giant Discovery that is announced yet has no ground beneath it. Much like the 1990s claim of cold fusion that turned out to be non-repeatable.

Yes but story is that US satalite spot wierd formation and reported that to Bosnian goverment. Story flow to Osmanagić and rest is history. At least thats the story circulating in Bosnian goverment persons.

[Big Bad Voodoo]

I'm glad i found this thread before starting another. I saw the 'documentary' on this and i found it to be interesting, but a bit one-sided. The archaeologist seemed to make a few valid points. Some of the supposed "bedrock patterns" did appear very similar to brick work of some sort.

I'm interested to know what the general consensus is on this one, so if anyone could summarize 90 pages of thread into a few sentences for me, that would be great. lol

I was in Visoko, Bosnia and Herzegovinia. I saw it for my self and read about it. Listen several lectures about it including 4 of Osmanagić himself. Bottom of line it natural. No pyramid. Tunnels beneath so called pyramid was made by water, probably. If not Bosnia is WELL known for many mines. Why not that Illyrians for example dig that holes? Anyway, "pyramids" are there yet not one artifact so far was found.

[Big Bad Voodoo]

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