Potholer Posted January 10, 2006 #1 Share Posted January 10, 2006 (edited) A new show called Sensing Murder just started tonight and I was curious so watched it. The purpose of the show is to open up unsolved murders in NZ and use psychics to shed some light. They interviewed psychics from NZ and Australia and tested them to choose who would feature in the show - "The testing procedure used a little-known solved murder case; presented with only a photo of the victim, the psychics were asked to produce details of the crime, the location and the killer. " This first episode was about a 13year old girl who was strangled with a pantyhose in Auckland on a 10minute walk home at about 9.30 at night in 1976. She was then dumped in a forest area. The murder was a pretty famous one, really, as it was in a suburban are and was completely random. The girl had been walked halfway home by her friend then walked the last 10minutes alone but never reached home. The psychics were watched so they couldn't go out researching or anything (though, it's entirely possible that at least the NZ psychic would know a thing or two about it) and they were given a photograph and told to say everything they could "felt" or whatever from it. The Australian psychic, Deb, before even turning the photo over, gave a physical description of the girl (Tracey Ann), gave her name, described being strangled and mentioned the stocking. She mentioned the park Tracey and her friend had taken a shortcut through, mentioned her love of horses and both got the date correct. Deb also mentioned the body being found by a dog and it's owner, which was true. Sue, the NZ psychic, got the strangulation, mentioned the shortcut through the park, got the horses. Then it moved into areas that couldn't be proved. Deb mentioned a light-coloured car stopping by Tracey on her way home, Sue said a light blue. They both gave a similar explanation of the man (unshaven, grey mullet, oily hands as if they worked with heavy machinery). They both mentioned a gold signet ring that Tracey had worn and deliberately left in the car of her attacker. They both described how he had tricked her into getting close to the car by asking for directions. Deb, after turning the photo over, pointed out where Tracey had lived and where her body had been dumped. Then, on separate days, the women were taken to the house adn then both walked the exact same route that Tracey and her friend had taken, up to the point they parted. After that, there's little proof that they're right because Tracey wasn't seem but they still took the same route as eachother. Then, again on separate days, they were taken to the area of forest that Tracey's body was found, an area of 117 sq. km I think and pinpointed the place where her body was dumped, along a 50km stretch of road. While there, Deb gave a full name of the attacker and that he had a wife and 2 boys and had since moved further north, working with machinery. The police followed up on the name and found this guy lived just north of the area and indeed worked as a mechanic or with machinery. Sorry, my memory isn't too good - I wrote most of this down on a piece of paper but I missed a good deal, heh. But yeah, what do you think? There are more episodes coming up and I'll record what they find. It sounded pretty darned nifty. The last thing I wanted to mention was that, straight after, at 10pm at night was Ghost Hunt. One "paranomral investigator" (a title which is silly because the other "investigator" was a children's TV show presenter in 2004...) was wandering through a supposedly haunted house, talking about a prostitute who had been raped and murdered there. He mentioned how she has been seen in a white gown, very sophisticated-like, and before he left the lounge where she is most often seen he took 3 photos. Two had the flash on but the third didn't. They lightened the 3rd one and, sure enough, there was a figure in what appeared to be a dress, with elongated, elegant hands, leaning against the wall in a "come hither" fashion appearing to hold something in her hand. The sound of a teacup clinking had gotten the investigators attention in the first case. At the end of the show is a wee disclaimer saying that all photos haven't been altered unless stated. Creepy? I thought so, it being so late But anyways, I have to go to bed. What do you think of either? Edited January 10, 2006 by Potholer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixiedancer Posted January 14, 2007 #2 Share Posted January 14, 2007 does anyone know whether the Tracey Ann murder was ever solved or rather if anyone was ever prosecuted? The programme has just been on over here in the UK but there's never any follow up which is kind of disappointing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativechick1989 Posted January 18, 2007 #3 Share Posted January 18, 2007 There's a show like that on CourtTV, I think it's called Psychic Detectives (If I remember correctly) .. watched it a few times, but don't know if it's still being aired. Quite interesting to watch, but I don't know if any of the murders they were investigating were actually solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR901 Posted January 22, 2008 #4 Share Posted January 22, 2008 <_<I love this show but it's disappointing not to see follow ups to the investigations. Does anyone know if this is going to happen?? kinda leaves you with a hollow feeling. A new show called Sensing Murder just started tonight and I was curious so watched it. The purpose of the show is to open up unsolved murders in NZ and use psychics to shed some light. They interviewed psychics from NZ and Australia and tested them to choose who would feature in the show - "The testing procedure used a little-known solved murder case; presented with only a photo of the victim, the psychics were asked to produce details of the crime, the location and the killer. " This first episode was about a 13year old girl who was strangled with a pantyhose in Auckland on a 10minute walk home at about 9.30 at night in 1976. She was then dumped in a forest area. The murder was a pretty famous one, really, as it was in a suburban are and was completely random. The girl had been walked halfway home by her friend then walked the last 10minutes alone but never reached home. The psychics were watched so they couldn't go out researching or anything (though, it's entirely possible that at least the NZ psychic would know a thing or two about it) and they were given a photograph and told to say everything they could "felt" or whatever from it. The Australian psychic, Deb, before even turning the photo over, gave a physical description of the girl (Tracey Ann), gave her name, described being strangled and mentioned the stocking. She mentioned the park Tracey and her friend had taken a shortcut through, mentioned her love of horses and both got the date correct. Deb also mentioned the body being found by a dog and it's owner, which was true. Sue, the NZ psychic, got the strangulation, mentioned the shortcut through the park, got the horses. Then it moved into areas that couldn't be proved. Deb mentioned a light-coloured car stopping by Tracey on her way home, Sue said a light blue. They both gave a similar explanation of the man (unshaven, grey mullet, oily hands as if they worked with heavy machinery). They both mentioned a gold signet ring that Tracey had worn and deliberately left in the car of her attacker. They both described how he had tricked her into getting close to the car by asking for directions. Deb, after turning the photo over, pointed out where Tracey had lived and where her body had been dumped. Then, on separate days, the women were taken to the house adn then both walked the exact same route that Tracey and her friend had taken, up to the point they parted. After that, there's little proof that they're right because Tracey wasn't seem but they still took the same route as eachother. Then, again on separate days, they were taken to the area of forest that Tracey's body was found, an area of 117 sq. km I think and pinpointed the place where her body was dumped, along a 50km stretch of road. While there, Deb gave a full name of the attacker and that he had a wife and 2 boys and had since moved further north, working with machinery. The police followed up on the name and found this guy lived just north of the area and indeed worked as a mechanic or with machinery. Sorry, my memory isn't too good - I wrote most of this down on a piece of paper but I missed a good deal, heh. But yeah, what do you think? There are more episodes coming up and I'll record what they find. It sounded pretty darned nifty. The last thing I wanted to mention was that, straight after, at 10pm at night was Ghost Hunt. One "paranomral investigator" (a title which is silly because the other "investigator" was a children's TV show presenter in 2004...) was wandering through a supposedly haunted house, talking about a prostitute who had been raped and murdered there. He mentioned how she has been seen in a white gown, very sophisticated-like, and before he left the lounge where she is most often seen he took 3 photos. Two had the flash on but the third didn't. They lightened the 3rd one and, sure enough, there was a figure in what appeared to be a dress, with elongated, elegant hands, leaning against the wall in a "come hither" fashion appearing to hold something in her hand. The sound of a teacup clinking had gotten the investigators attention in the first case. At the end of the show is a wee disclaimer saying that all photos haven't been altered unless stated. Creepy? I thought so, it being so late But anyways, I have to go to bed. What do you think of either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undeadskeptic Posted January 29, 2008 #5 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Two of the physcics were proven to be frauds and there is good reason to doubt the others (One was looking at a picture of a family pet and said "They had a dog". If you turn the volume up you can hear someone off set say "They had a cat, a cat" and then the physcic said, wait, No, its a cat! The dramatic voiceover then stated THE FAMILY PET WAS INDEED A CAT.) The show is BS. I occasionally watch episodes to laugh at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moooooo Posted January 29, 2008 #6 Share Posted January 29, 2008 How strange they would'nt edit out where they say in the background "Its a cat!" LOL I saw this programme, the same one. Did'nt one of the psychics say she believes there were 2 killers? and when taken to the spot where the girls body was found, said that there were definately afew more bodies buried in the area? then when they actually did excavate the area, they found bones of afew girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Onyx~ Posted January 29, 2008 #7 Share Posted January 29, 2008 So hard to find something legitimate with the word "show" attached to it these days, not to suggest that they aren't legitimate, beacuse I've never seen the show first hand, but all the other shows I've seen(with the exception of a scant few) are useless, overblown, over-produced drek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR901 Posted January 31, 2008 #8 Share Posted January 31, 2008 well i've done a Google search on Deb Webber , sensing murder psychic and Kirk Cruickshank..but there doesnt seem to be any possitive feedback on Deb, all negative..I didnt find much on Kirk, do any of our NZ members have any info on him? I love the show for entertainment value and Kirk is very believable,but like I said there is never any follow ups on any of the investigations.so that kind of leaves you wondering about the whole deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockChickUK Posted February 1, 2008 #9 Share Posted February 1, 2008 well i've done a Google search on Deb Webber , sensing murder psychic and Kirk Cruickshank..but there doesnt seem to be any possitive feedback on Deb, all negative..I didnt find much on Kirk, do any of our NZ members have any info on him? I love the show for entertainment value and Kirk is very believable,but like I said there is never any follow ups on any of the investigations.so that kind of leaves you wondering about the whole deal. That shocks me. When I first saw Sensing Murder Deb Webber was the one who I thought was amazing. I looked her up, found her website and sent a short message saying I enjoyed the show. I got an e-mail back saying thanks and all that jazz and she told me how her partner was from the UK and she'd be happy to meet me when she came over (I think with the UK being so small compared to Aus- she must have thought we would be really close , I am in Yorkshire, he was in Kent). I replied and told her it was quite a distance and she gave me her phone number, I never called her but she called me...and she was VERY good and lovely too. Kelvin Cruikshank was once read on Colin Fry in the UK just as he was starting out the psychic thing...Colin Fry made him cry happy tears!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR901 Posted February 2, 2008 #10 Share Posted February 2, 2008 That was nice of her to do that rockchick..theres a lot of stuff on deb on you tube if you do a search but its not nice stuff, I think the show Today Tonight sealed her fate here in australia..if she is the "real deal" its a shame its gone sour for her..hope you get to meet her one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR901 Posted February 2, 2008 #11 Share Posted February 2, 2008 I just found this link which is really interesting http://www.nzrealitytv.com/search/label/Kelvin%20Cruickshank lots of reading there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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