AnuKabal Posted February 3, 2006 #51 Share Posted February 3, 2006 I think they didn't warn them, and just chose to shot at them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
et's daddy Posted February 3, 2006 #52 Share Posted February 3, 2006 I think they didn't warn them, and just chose to shot at them anything youre basing that thought on ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billystevo Posted February 3, 2006 #53 Share Posted February 3, 2006 I think what is trying to get across here, is stop shooting your allies, and train your troops properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
et's daddy Posted February 3, 2006 #54 Share Posted February 3, 2006 I think what is trying to get across here, is stop shooting your allies, and train your troops properly. Pray to God Almighty that England never needs our military support again we have helped you from the brink of annihilation before and this is the thanks we get ? maybe we wont pick up the phone next time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnuKabal Posted February 3, 2006 #55 Share Posted February 3, 2006 I'm basing it off of the fact that Americans like shooting things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnuKabal Posted February 3, 2006 #56 Share Posted February 3, 2006 there trigger happy everyday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffybunny Posted February 3, 2006 #57 Share Posted February 3, 2006 I'm basing it off of the fact that Americans like shooting things I didn't realize that you have met all Americans in order to base that generalized statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
et's daddy Posted February 3, 2006 #58 Share Posted February 3, 2006 there trigger happy everyday as i have stated several times alredy, i spent 5 years in the US Army for most of that time i had a loaded M16 funny enough i never shot anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellar Posted February 3, 2006 #59 Share Posted February 3, 2006 I think what is trying to get across here, is stop shooting your allies, and train your troops properly. Its because of proper training that they could have shot at the vehicle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffybunny Posted February 3, 2006 #60 Share Posted February 3, 2006 I think what is trying to get across here, is stop shooting your allies, and train your troops properly. And your training would be? Do you know what actually happened there? I'd bet you pulled a muscle jumping to those conclusions... What a joke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted February 3, 2006 #61 Share Posted February 3, 2006 The diplomat, who was not named, said no one in the Canadian vehicles remembered seeing anyone signalling to them. The first sign they had of a problem was when they heard a booming sound. This pretty much tells the whole story. The diplomats are clueless...they didn't have an official escort...they are just completely oblivious to the situation in Iraq. They are damned lucky all they got was a vehicle with a few holes in it. Solution: If you are clueless...stay the hell away from our GIs. Even if you're an Ally! It doesn't pay not to do all your homework. If you don't know where you are going and what to expect around each and every corner...you shouldn't even be over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanato Posted February 3, 2006 Author #62 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Here is what happend. The Marked vehical pulled out of the British Embassy behind a US Convoy of 5 Hummers and stayed back, when the hummers pulled off the road to enter a US Military compound the diplomatic vehical proceeded at the same speed passed the convoy were they were fired apon. ~Thanato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
et's daddy Posted February 3, 2006 #63 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Here is what happend. The Marked vehical pulled out of the British Embassy behind a US Convoy of 5 Hummers and stayed back, when the hummers pulled off the road to enter a US Military compound the diplomatic vehical proceeded at the same speed passed the convoy were they were fired apon. ~Thanato ok lets get this right a vehicle trails a small convoy of US Army HUMVEES for about 5 minutes hanging back when the convoy pulls off the road and signals for the following vehicle to stop the following vehicle ignores the command to stop and continues at them the Americans shoot the diplomats had no idea what was going on they say they saw no warning from the Americans, but also see they had no idea where the shot came from seems they would see a soldier pointing a rifle at them if you are to believe they were aware of there surroundings, as you seem to believe they were now lets try a little experiment get in your car have a friend tail you for 5 minutes at about 15mph (which is about 24kph) they make every turn you make and keep a constant distance to your vehicle now this next part requires you to have an imagination imagine youre in a war zone if you let your concentration lapse for a second you may die people may be hiding in buildings you pass waiting for the right moment to shoot you car bombs have been going off suicide bombers may be in the area ok 5 minutes have passed and that damn car is still following you you radio ahead and tell your convoy to pull over you signal to the following vehicle to stop it ignores your signals and keeps coming towards your position what do you do ? you shoot thats what you do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PadawanOsswe Posted February 3, 2006 #64 Share Posted February 3, 2006 I think what is trying to get across here, is stop shooting your allies, and train your troops properly. do you know anything about military training? the facts are simple. The damn diplomats were lucky as hell, and stupid as hell. The enemy surrounds our troops over there hiding among the masses. they're surrounded by a guerrilla force.so one brief moment of hesitation and you are dead! our troops are tought as well as we can teach them not hesitate, no remorse,no guilt. if they have to kill one of their own allies to survive, they would. fortunatly Canada's diplomats got off lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glacies Posted February 3, 2006 #65 Share Posted February 3, 2006 as a canadian, I think the american's are in the wrong here. however, as a logical human being I have to agree with the rather emotional post from Padawanosswe. I feel that in times of war, hesitation shouldn't occur, and you should try to protect yourself. especially if you shouldn't be over there in the first place. but that's a topic for another thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted February 3, 2006 #66 Share Posted February 3, 2006 They were pulling out of a British base and tagged behind a hummer "parade" Ya the Brit's let car bomber's leave all the time WTF. As I can see it was not a blockade but a group of humv's pulling to the side of the road. Hmm after following the humv's for a while I would feel fairly safe, It was not a road block! If one guy felt threatened and fired 3 shots why did no one else follow through and blow the fn car to ****. HMMMMMMMM It does look like a mistake, buy a trigger happy soldier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PadawanOsswe Posted February 4, 2006 #67 Share Posted February 4, 2006 also any vehicals or persons must stay at least 150 meters away from our Convoys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billystevo Posted February 4, 2006 #68 Share Posted February 4, 2006 do you know anything about military training? the facts are simple. The damn diplomats were lucky as hell, and stupid as hell. The enemy surrounds our troops over there hiding among the masses. they're surrounded by a guerrilla force.so one brief moment of hesitation and you are dead! our troops are tought as well as we can teach them not hesitate, no remorse,no guilt. if they have to kill one of their own allies to survive, they would. fortunatly Canada's diplomats got off lucky. Dont you think the British have to work in the same conditions? Americans dont give a hoot about anything they just shoot. No concern about Iraqis or anyone else , poor training and sending kids to the battle zone doesnt help. You may have the best Airforce and Navy , but your Army is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlimited Posted February 4, 2006 #69 Share Posted February 4, 2006 Dont you think the British have to work in the same conditions? Americans dont give a hoot about anything they just shoot. No concern about Iraqis or anyone else , poor training and sending kids to the battle zone doesnt help. You may have the best Airforce and Navy , but your Army is homer thats not nice...are armys the finest in the world. notice how the americans go to the fight and the english stay in southern iraq away from the sunni triangle?...its called courage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanato Posted February 4, 2006 Author #70 Share Posted February 4, 2006 Your army is not the best in the world, its one of the best, but not the best. Its called numbers and planning, the British are assigned the south because they have fewer numbers. ~Thanato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellar Posted February 4, 2006 #71 Share Posted February 4, 2006 Dont you think the British have to work in the same conditions? Americans dont give a hoot about anything they just shoot. No concern about Iraqis or anyone else , poor training and sending kids to the battle zone doesnt help. You may have the best Airforce and Navy , but your Army is And what experience do you have on the subject? homer thats not nice...are armys the finest in the world. notice how the americans go to the fight and the english stay in southern iraq away from the sunni triangle?...its called courage Actually, its called the US delegating. I somehow doubt it was the British that said "dont worry, we'll secure the south, less violent part of Iraq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billystevo Posted February 5, 2006 #72 Share Posted February 5, 2006 And what experience do you have on the subject? Actually, its called the US delegating. I somehow doubt it was the British that said "dont worry, we'll secure the south, less violent part of Iraq. True with what we know now about Iraq and its Terrorists and weapons of mass destruction non existance, id bring the British army home as soon as possible. I dont think British troops will be used again to back up a nut like Bush , it was only Tony Blair trying to be a world leader and sucking up to Bush , who got us into this crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__Kratos__ Posted February 5, 2006 #73 Share Posted February 5, 2006 True with what we know now about Iraq and its Terrorists and weapons of mass destruction non existance, id bring the British army home as soon as possible. I dont think British troops will be used again to back up a nut like Bush , it was only Tony Blair trying to be a world leader and sucking up to Bush , who got us into this crap. Just curious, why are you whining about the UK in a US and Canadian conflict thread? I really do just think you love to whine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurtingSpirit Posted February 5, 2006 #74 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Just curious, why are you whining about the UK in a US and Canadian conflict thread? I really do just think you love to whine. Read over a few of his past posts. He needs some cheese, thats for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted February 5, 2006 #75 Share Posted February 5, 2006 (edited) Pray to God Almighty that England never needs our military support again we have helped you from the brink of annihilation before and this is the thanks we get ? maybe we wont pick up the phone next time Umm ETD you might want to rethink that, In WW2 you left the Brits to deffend them selves, the U.S. only got envolved because of Pearl Harbour. WW2 would have been won by the allies even with out the States help. Back on topic so if the situation was so threatening why only one 3 shots from one soldier? If it was a major threat the car would be swiss cheese and no survivors. Again it was one soldier that fired the shots,he made the mistake!! Had to add et's daddy you better pray that one day your country is not in a situation that may require help from another nation, because you guy's are burning bridges. Edited February 5, 2006 by The Silver Thong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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