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I think they didn't warn them, and just chose to shot at them

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I think they didn't warn them, and just chose to shot at them

anything youre basing that thought on ?

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I think what is trying to get across here, is stop shooting your allies, and train your troops properly.

Pray to God Almighty that England never needs our military support again

we have helped you from the brink of annihilation before and this is the thanks we get ?

maybe we wont pick up the phone next time

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I'm basing it off of the fact that Americans like shooting things

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I'm basing it off of the fact that Americans like shooting things

I didn't realize that you have met all Americans in order to base that generalized statement.

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there trigger happy everyday

as i have stated several times alredy, i spent 5 years in the US Army

for most of that time i had a loaded M16

funny enough i never shot anyone :tu:

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I think what is trying to get across here, is stop shooting your allies, and train your troops properly.

Its because of proper training that they could have shot at the vehicle!

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I think what is trying to get across here, is stop shooting your allies, and train your troops properly.

And your training would be? Do you know what actually happened there? I'd bet you pulled a muscle jumping to those conclusions...

What a joke...

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The diplomat, who was not named, said no one in the Canadian vehicles remembered seeing anyone signalling to them. The first sign they had of a problem was when they heard a booming sound.

This pretty much tells the whole story. The diplomats are clueless...they didn't have an official escort...they are just completely oblivious to the situation in Iraq. They are damned lucky all they got was a vehicle with a few holes in it.

Solution: If you are clueless...stay the hell away from our GIs. Even if you're an Ally! It doesn't pay not to do all your homework. :no: If you don't know where you are going and what to expect around each and every corner...you shouldn't even be over there.

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Here is what happend. The Marked vehical pulled out of the British Embassy behind a US Convoy of 5 Hummers and stayed back, when the hummers pulled off the road to enter a US Military compound the diplomatic vehical proceeded at the same speed passed the convoy were they were fired apon.

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Here is what happend. The Marked vehical pulled out of the British Embassy behind a US Convoy of 5 Hummers and stayed back, when the hummers pulled off the road to enter a US Military compound the diplomatic vehical proceeded at the same speed passed the convoy were they were fired apon.

~Thanato

ok

lets get this right

a vehicle trails a small convoy of US Army HUMVEES for about 5 minutes hanging back

when the convoy pulls off the road and signals for the following vehicle to stop

the following vehicle ignores the command to stop and continues at them

the Americans shoot

the diplomats had no idea what was going on

they say they saw no warning from the Americans, but also see they had no idea where the shot came from

seems they would see a soldier pointing a rifle at them

if you are to believe they were aware of there surroundings, as you seem to believe they were

now lets try a little experiment

get in your car

have a friend tail you for 5 minutes at about 15mph (which is about 24kph)

they make every turn you make and keep a constant distance to your vehicle

now this next part requires you to have an imagination

imagine youre in a war zone

if you let your concentration lapse for a second you may die

people may be hiding in buildings you pass waiting for the right moment to shoot you

car bombs have been going off

suicide bombers may be in the area

ok 5 minutes have passed and that damn car is still following you

you radio ahead and tell your convoy to pull over

you signal to the following vehicle to stop

it ignores your signals and keeps coming towards your position

what do you do ?

you shoot

thats what you do

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I think what is trying to get across here, is stop shooting your allies, and train your troops properly.

do you know anything about military training?

the facts are simple. The damn diplomats were lucky as hell, and stupid as hell.

The enemy surrounds our troops over there hiding among the masses. they're surrounded by a guerrilla force.so one brief moment of hesitation and you are dead!

our troops are tought as well as we can teach them not hesitate, no remorse,no guilt.

if they have to kill one of their own allies to survive, they would.

fortunatly Canada's diplomats got off lucky.

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as a canadian, I think the american's are in the wrong here. however, as a logical human being I have to agree with the rather emotional post from Padawanosswe. I feel that in times of war, hesitation shouldn't occur, and you should try to protect yourself. especially if you shouldn't be over there in the first place. but that's a topic for another thread.

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They were pulling out of a British base and tagged behind a hummer "parade" Ya the Brit's let car bomber's leave all the time WTF.

As I can see it was not a blockade but a group of humv's pulling to the side of the road. Hmm after following the humv's for a while I would feel fairly safe, It was not a road block!

If one guy felt threatened and fired 3 shots why did no one else follow through and blow the fn car to ****. HMMMMMMMM

It does look like a mistake, buy a trigger happy soldier.

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also any vehicals or persons must stay at least 150 meters away from our Convoys.

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do you know anything about military training?

the facts are simple. The damn diplomats were lucky as hell, and stupid as hell.

The enemy surrounds our troops over there hiding among the masses. they're surrounded by a guerrilla force.so one brief moment of hesitation and you are dead!

our troops are tought as well as we can teach them not hesitate, no remorse,no guilt.

if they have to kill one of their own allies to survive, they would.

fortunatly Canada's diplomats got off lucky.

Dont you think the British have to work in the same conditions? Americans dont give a hoot about anything they just shoot. No concern about Iraqis or anyone else , poor training and sending kids to the battle zone doesnt help.

You may have the best Airforce and Navy , but your Army is :w00t:

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Dont you think the British have to work in the same conditions? Americans dont give a hoot about anything they just shoot. No concern about Iraqis or anyone else , poor training and sending kids to the battle zone doesnt help.

You may have the best Airforce and Navy , but your Army is :w00t:

homer thats not nice...are armys the finest in the world. notice how the americans go to the fight and the english stay in southern iraq away from the sunni triangle?...its called courage :ph34r:

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Your army is not the best in the world, its one of the best, but not the best.

Its called numbers and planning, the British are assigned the south because they have fewer numbers.

~Thanato

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Dont you think the British have to work in the same conditions? Americans dont give a hoot about anything they just shoot. No concern about Iraqis or anyone else , poor training and sending kids to the battle zone doesnt help.

You may have the best Airforce and Navy , but your Army is

And what experience do you have on the subject?

homer thats not nice...are armys the finest in the world. notice how the americans go to the fight and the english stay in southern iraq away from the sunni triangle?...its called courage

Actually, its called the US delegating. I somehow doubt it was the British that said "dont worry, we'll secure the south, less violent part of Iraq.

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And what experience do you have on the subject?

Actually, its called the US delegating. I somehow doubt it was the British that said "dont worry, we'll secure the south, less violent part of Iraq.

True with what we know now about Iraq and its Terrorists and weapons of mass destruction non existance, id bring the British army home as soon as possible. I dont think British troops will be used again to back up a nut like Bush , it was only Tony Blair trying to be a world leader and sucking up to Bush , who got us into this crap.

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True with what we know now about Iraq and its Terrorists and weapons of mass destruction non existance, id bring the British army home as soon as possible. I dont think British troops will be used again to back up a nut like Bush , it was only Tony Blair trying to be a world leader and sucking up to Bush , who got us into this crap.

Just curious, why are you whining about the UK in a US and Canadian conflict thread?

I really do just think you love to whine. :yes:

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Just curious, why are you whining about the UK in a US and Canadian conflict thread?

I really do just think you love to whine. :yes:

Read over a few of his past posts. He needs some cheese, thats for sure. :yes:

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Pray to God Almighty that England never needs our military support again

we have helped you from the brink of annihilation before and this is the thanks we get ?

maybe we wont pick up the phone next time

Umm ETD you might want to rethink that, In WW2 you left the Brits to deffend them selves, the U.S. only got envolved because of Pearl Harbour. WW2 would have been won by the allies even with out the States help.

Back on topic so if the situation was so threatening why only one 3 shots from one soldier? If it was a major threat the car would be swiss cheese and no survivors. Again it was one soldier that fired the shots,he made the mistake!!

Had to add et's daddy you better pray that one day your country is not in a situation that may require help from another nation, because you guy's are burning bridges.

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