Ultraterrestrials: Do they walk among us ?

[UM-Bot]

Ken Korczak: The most popular belief today is that UFOs are spaceships piloted by aliens from other planets and other solar systems. But another good theory which never gets as much press is that UFOs may, in fact, originate right here on earth. Instead of being Extraterrestrials, UFO aliens might be Ultraterrestrials -- a species that has always been here, which evolved on earth along with homo sapiens, but which represent a species far advanced.These Ultraterrestrials are so superior to us it’s almost impossible for us to comprehend their existence. All we know of them are fleeting glimpses of light in the sky, occasional bizarre encounters between human beings and so-called aliens, and other unexplainable phenomenon.Think of how a group of chimpanzees in the wild perceive human beings. Because their own level of consciousness is limited compared to ours, they cannot comprehend what we humans are beyond being just another kind of animal.A chimp may think of an airplane as some kind of magical, giant bird.

They relate to it with the level of understanding they have about their environment. The speculation of the chimp, at best, is a crude idea about the total truth of an airplane, and the fact that it represents entire levels of consciousness that are so advanced, they are literally invisible to chimp mind.Now think of a human being who encounters a UFO. To us a UFO seems to be some kind of flying, mechanical aircraft -- but the true nature of the UFO may be as different from a spacecraft as a bird is from an airplane. Like the chimp, we just don’t have the advanced levels of consciousness we need to comprehend the true nature of a UFO.As humans, we make the naturally egotistical assumption that we are the species at the top of the heap -- we see ourselves as the peak achievement of evolution. We even make the bold claim that God, the supreme architect of the entire universe, created us in his own image!But it’s not a big leap to consider that we are just another link in a vast chain of species, many which are below us, and some which may be above us.

People who support the Ultraterrestrial theory, such as authors Jacques Vallee and John Keel, point out that supernatural beings seemingly superior to humans have been reported throughout history. In previous eras they were called gods, angels, ogres, fairies, brownies, little people, demons, and more.The Bible is filled with references to supernatural creatures, including giants, “wheels” flying in the sky out of which incredible creatures emerge, and more.But references to flying disks were recorded centuries before the texts of the Bible. Cave drawing dating to 30,000 B.C. depict disks floating around in the sky, remarkably similar to modern UFO photographs.Maverick UFO investigators like Vallee and Keel have pointed out the amazing similarities of modern UFO aliens to that of elves, fairies and the various “little people” famous in the folklore of many cultures.Fairies are known for kidnapping people, the same irritating habit UFO aliens have. People who are abducted report incidents of missing time, a phenomenon very similar to time lapses reported by people taken to and returned from “fairyland.”Fairies, like modern aliens, tend to be diminutive creatures with large magical eyes. Many reports of alien abduction even include “power rods” used to paralyze abducties, just as fairies wield “magic wands.”One of the most interesting comparisons between aliens and fairies is that both are interested in stealing babies.

One of the most common fairy activities is swiping babies from cribs, and sometimes replacing them with a false double, or “changeling” as they are sometimes called.A large part of modern UFO literature involves aliens abducting women, impregnating them, and then later abducting them again, only to remove and take the unborn baby right out of the womb.Clearly, both UFO occupants and fairies have a strong affinity for the baby business.Fairies are closely associated with nature, just as modern aliens also display a certain obsession with environmental issues. One of the most common alien abduction scenarios involves aliens who force people to watch “movies” depicting massive environmental degradation caused by modern human civizilation. The aliens then give them a lecture on environmental issues and let them go.If aliens truly are a superior species from earth and evolved on earth, it would make sense that they would be concerned about another species wrecking the planet.But then you might ask, why don’t the Ultraterrestrials simply step in and “manage” us the same way humans “manage” wildlife, including chimps and other large primates? The Ultraterrestrial theorists answer: “They are!” That’s what all the abduction and experiments are about!Just as human beings capture and tag various species, UFO abducties report experiences of extreme similarity.

Many people report being “tagged” during frightening sessions on a UFO operating table. Some of these “tags” have even been recovered, or show up on MRI exams, and remain unexplained.It’s also possible that Ultraterrestrials comprehend and operate within higher levels of dimension than we experience at the human level. A chimp, for example, does not comprehend the dimension of time like humans can, and a chimp could never understand that time and space are actually two parts of the same dimension, as scientists have discovered.Mathematicians tell us that many additional dimensions of reality exist -- dimensions which only the most brilliant math minds can glimpse through numbers, although they cannot experience them psychologically in any meaningful way.If Ultraterrestrials can exist “above” or “beyond” spacetime, that means they can easily see us, trick us and manipulate our existence, while we can’t see them at all, or only in the most crude manner, or perhaps only when they allow us to see them.Imagine when a bear is shot with a drugged dart from a helicopter hovering above him. Imagine how terrified the bear is of the bizarre flying monster, and the noise and lights that come out of it. Now imagine what the bear thinks of the strange beings that emerge fromm the flying monster. The strange beings poke and prod him, look inside his mouth, apply a tag to his ear, and then let him go. Why? How can a bear understand or interpret the meaning of this incident on its level of consciousness? It can’t. Human beings are so advanced and superior as to be incomprehensible.Is it so difficult to believe that the ongoing bizarre and seemingly incomprehensible phenomenon of UFOs and their activities are the actions of an earth-born species far advanced and superior to human beings? Just ask a bear or a chimp.

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[saibaman]

Intresting theory and good justification, i have always thought we humans would be like animals to the aliens, as not every single animal in the world would have the experience of being in contact with a human, in the same way not all humans would experience an encounter with an alien.

[SolarThinker]

Yes a very interesting idea with sound justification. Though i would have i ask where and when did this advanced civilization evolve, and what would cause them to decide to live either under the ground or under the sea? And why is there limited archaeological evidence of the evolution of these creatures?

Edited March 26, 2006 by SolarThinker

[Ned Tunacao]

Unless they were composed of cartilage and soft tissue, that would present a problem. Especially if they died in a damp environment.

I CAN'T FIND NOO BODAAAY!!!

Although I'm not qualified to make a theory about anything, seeing how I'm not mentally stable.

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Ned.

[Hellights-Heavenlights]

That's very interesting...

maybe one day they could teach us what the meaning of death is...

[IronGhost]

SolarThinker mentions possible physical remains or evidence of Ultraterrestrial civiziliations, but I think what the author wants us to do is to attempt to imagine what the Ultras are like, not in terms of what we are, but in terms of the they are, or might be.

The Ultras may have long sinced evolved to a state on noncorporeal being. They may have extremely advanced abilities to manipulate physical space, object and even time and other dimensions. With such abilities, they could remain totally hidden from us -- or be seeen only when they wanted to be seen.

[GreyWeather]

SolarThinker mentions possible physical remains or evidence of Ultraterrestrial civiziliations, but I think what the author wants us to do is to attempt to imagine what the Ultras are like, not in terms of what we are, but in terms of the they are, or might be.

The Ultras may have long sinced evolved to a state on noncorporeal being. They may have extremely advanced abilities to manipulate physical space, object and even time and other dimensions. With such abilities, they could remain totally hidden from us -- or be seeen only when they wanted to be seen.

going onto that evolved theory, what if they have no physical body? as in they have surpassed that need and have become energy that can manifest themselves. just a theory though, if what this thread thinks is true. still to figure out that ultraterrestrials or extraterrestrials are real, would be a massive blow to the world, yet it'll happen one day so that is something that may be unavoidable.

[Shuriken]

lol it's like on of the dumbest thing i have ever heard...

What are you nutz? Look at the mankind and what it has done with the earth and other species. Do you realy think that if there were such ultraman's, they would not at least contacted us? ohh, right... thay allready have...UFO flying ships!11

[GreyWeather]

lol it's like on of the dumbest thing i have ever heard...

What are you nutz? Look at the mankind and what it has done with the earth and other species. Do you realy think that if there were such ultraman's, they would not at least contacted us? ohh, right... thay allready have...UFO flying ships!11

would you go to the deepest part of a jungle to contact a monkey? because if they were real, that's what the intelligence level difference would be. now you wouldn't do that because what would the point be? there is none, other than to satisfy your own longing to have found wild (perhaps a new speices of) monkeys.

[SolarThinker]

going onto that evolved theory, what if they have no physical body? as in they have surpassed that need and have become energy that can manifest themselves. just a theory though, if what this thread thinks is true. still to figure out that ultraterrestrials or extraterrestrials are real, would be a massive blow to the world, yet it'll happen one day so that is something that may be unavoidable.

A good point about surpassing the need for physical bodies, but even if they didnt have solid bodies, if underterrestrials are meant to be what we thought were aliens than their aircraft are real enough!

[Shuriken]

would you go to the deepest part of a jungle to contact a monkey? because if they were real, that's what the intelligence level difference would be. now you wouldn't do that because what would the point be? there is none, other than to satisfy your own longing to have found wild (perhaps a new speices of) monkeys.

Well, thats the point, were NOT in the Jungle. Man has settled it self all over the Earth...

Enywho...Talking bout these ultramens is just as silly and pointless as religion, for example Christianity. The Satan has forseen the fact, that you would want to check if there's eny evidence of Jesus beeing somehow divine or whatever, so he has done something so that you could not do it...

A bit offtopic, but I just wanted to show you, that I could make up a theory about enything and you could not give me eny real evidence which provides the facts that its not true.

And that is allso why such nonsence is popular only between young conspiracy geeks, and NO cosmologists ever even attempt to disprove that kind of stuff.

Edited March 26, 2006 by Shuriken

[GreyWeather]

Well, thats the point, were NOT in the Jungle. Man has settled it self all over the Earth...

Enywho...Talking bout these ultramens is just as silly and pointless as religion, for example Christianity. The Satan has forseen the fact, that you would want to check if there's eny evidence of Jesus beeing somehow divine or whatever, so he has done something so that you could not do it...

A bit offtopic, but I just wanted to show you, that I could make up a theory about enything and you could not give me eny real evidence which provides the facts that its not true.

And that is allso why such nonsence is popular only between young conspiracy geeks, and NO cosmologists ever even attempt to disprove that kind of stuff.

... its hard to understand what you write, but what I do understand from your rambling is that no, we are not in the jungle. what I was aiming at is that; would you go into a habitat to go make yourself known to a speices that are under your intelligence level. Cities are a main habitat for people, and cities are jungles so-to-speak.

and also, this has nothing to do with a conspiracy... and not a lot to do with cosmologists as we are talking about beings that desend on earth - or that beings that desend onto our dimensions vibrations. it has more to do with physics and such, and we have theories that 'prove' 14 (I think, correct me if I am wrong) other dimensions along with our own, that exist on another vibration level.

A good point about surpassing the need for physical bodies, but even if they didnt have solid bodies, if underterrestrials are meant to be what we thought were aliens than their aircraft are real enough!

hm true, unless they aren't inhabited. perhaps if they are real and not military aircraft - known or unknown prototypes ect - then they could be remote controlled for instance, or 'literally not of this planet' no matter what dimension you're in

Edited March 26, 2006 by Leliel

[Shuriken]

its hard to understand what you write

cuz like English isn't my native n stuff...

and we have theories that 'prove' 14 (I think, correct me if I am wrong) other dimensions along with our own, that exist on another vibration level.

I'm aware of the "string theory", but as i sad, it's only theory. And it requires as much believe as religion and eny other fairy tails.

Yes there are some interesting guesses and again theorys about some unusual stuff, but this one about those Ultramans is just damn dull.

[Sharm]

Interesting theory. Maybe the elusive bigfoot is one of them

[jpjoe]

They could also be advanced evolved form of humans from the future.. well, this is really starting to sound very crazy.

though i dont agree that they have a damn with the other animals in this planet. cause if they do, we shouldnt be getting news that another specie of animal is gone due to human exploitation.

there are certainly many coincidences in this world. and thats all they are, coincidences.

Edited March 27, 2006 by jpjoe