Convicted foreigners not deported - UK

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LONDON (Reuters) - The government said on Tuesday it had freed over 1,000 foreign prisoners, including murderers, rapists and paedophiles, who should have been considered for deportation at the time of their release.

In a major embarrassment to the government Prime Minister Tony Blair ahead of local elections next week, the Home Office said it had no idea where the vast majority of the 1,023 convicted criminals were.

They were released over the past seven years and only a handful of them had been traced.

"I think it is a shocking state of affairs," Home Secretary Charles Clarke said. "The concern, possibly anger, that people will feel is entirely understandable."

The revelation will come as a severe blow to Blair's government which says it is tackling crime and has pledged to deport foreigners it regards as a threat to national security.

It is likely to play into the hands of the opposition Conservative Party as well as the fringe far-right British National Party (BNP), campaigning on an anti-immigration ticket for the vote on Thursday next week.

The BNP is expected to make gains in the ballot, the first electoral test for Blair since he won a third term in office.

The prime minister's standing appears to be on the wane. A poll published on Tuesday showed support for his Labour party has slipped to a 19-year low and Blair himself has said he will not seek a fourth term.

The 1,023 prisoners had all served their terms and were entitled to release, but should have been considered for deportation before they were freed.

Around 160 of them were subject to specific orders from courts which recommended their removal from Britain.

MINISTER WON'T QUIT

Clarke did not say exactly how the oversight had come about and why it had gone on so long but acknowledged the prison service and immigration authorities were both at fault.

However, even though both bodies come under his jurisdiction, he refused to quit his job.

"I think one should be candid with failure (but) I don't intend to resign on this matter," he told reporters.

The prisoners included three murderers, two found guilty of manslaughter, nine rapists, and 12 sex offenders including five paedophiles. Others were jailed for kidnapping, assault and drug and immigration offences.

The Home Office said it did not know how many, if any, of the prisoners had reoffended since their release.

The prison system has been under increasing strain in recent years as prisoner numbers climb. The Home Office says the number of foreign nationals in the country's jails had risen from 4,200 in 1996 to over 10,200 now.

The debacle only came to light thanks to questioning of the government by members of the parliament's Public Accounts Committee.

Richard Bacon, a Conservative MP who posed many of those questions, accused the Home Office on Tuesday of "a complete dereliction of duty".

"There's been administrative chaos. There's no other way to explain it other than to say the system has largely broken down," he told Reuters.

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What the hell?

[PLO]

lol well charles clarke's a pretty clever guy, well, he's a good business man anyway. But heres what we realesed, the Home Office's immigration and nationality directorate (IND) simply cant handle the volume of illegal immigrants anymore.

Offences committed by missing foreign prisoners

Actual or grievous bodily harm 54

Arson 4

Assisting illegal entry 16

Burglary 41

Conspiracy 6

Customs 6

Deception 66

Driving offences 5

Drugs 204 False imprisonment 3

Forgery 85

Fraud 33

Immigration 12

Kidnapping 4

Manslaughter 2

Murder 3

Rape 9

Robbery 93

Sex offences (other) 39

Theft 52

Violence 57

Other 126

[__Kratos__]

Update: Clarke insists 'I will not quit'

Mr Clarke had said the failure leading to the 1,023 releases was "deeply regrettable" and conceded that people would be angered by the oversight.

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He's a brilliant one.

[PLO]

well im pretty sure it wasnt actually himself personalythat lost all these people, simply a department that falls under his jurisdiction.

[7 Percent]

I suppose that i ought to be worried by this, i'm not , New Labour have been consistent in their ability to make a hash of everything they do. Why people vote them in is a mystery that i cant explain. New Labour has let the most violent and criminal people into this country and now reap the benefit of their open immigration policy. Thanks Tony for making us feel afraid to go out.

[The Silver Thong]

I have a question and I haven't been able to come up with an answer that would appease all.

My question is should all and I mean all landed immigrants be given a limitations on that status. For example if a landed immigrant breaks the law within oh lets say within 5 yrs of coming to a so called country,should an automatic deportation be given?

I'm not referring to speeding or shoplifting a candybar or that sort of crime, but any landed immigrant that commits a felony in the first 0-5 yrs of being welcomed and accepted by the host country be deported back to there country of origin because of that offence.

I may seem hard on this but I feel that any country that will take in anyone can also expect that,that individual will abide by the law. Ignorance is not an excuse. The host country with out having to deal in matters of the court should have the right to refuse an individual there status apon such a crime.

I for one hate having to pay for people in prison that should be given the death penalty(and not a 10 yr stay of execution) We don't have the death penalty In Canada but i think we should!

I don't like immigrants that work the system IE France. The pics of the protests from the muslim so called finatics,they should be in jail now and deported as hate mongers and potential war insiters.

My opinion does change and I for one think one of the worst problems for most western nations is immigration and our willingness to take on other countries problems,and then accept them as our own.

This is me saying I do agree with the U.S. yes I do, build the wall!!

Canada needs to build a wall,but that wall be made of better background checks better welfare reforms and immigrant status, it is a privilege not a RIGHT to be here. When you get off the boat, thank what ever port of call you step ground on and respect the country that just took you in.

My venting is done

[PLO]

the only reason people voted for labour or tony blair was simply becuase of the "New" bit at the start of labour, it wasnt just Labour like weve known it before, Oh no. This is NEW LABOUR!!! TA DA!!!, god it's so shiny, how could you not vote for them, i mean my god man, IT'S NEW!!!!! WOOOOAH!!!!!, to hell with the boring old grey conservative party, THIS IS NEW!!!!, AND ITS RED!!!!!!!! WOOOOO LOOK AT THE MONKEY!!!!, LOOK AT THE MONKEY!!!!

no one really considered that despite being a new system of goverment, which if they actually were it would have done justice to their shiny "new" bit, unfortunatly they turned out to have been refining good decent conservative corporate values and refined them on a much grander scale, but dont actually seem to care about the country going excrement. Their also facists. Which is bad.

why even let them get off the boat silver thong?, we could use the money were saving from prison sentences and give it to the navy to increase patrol and just shoot them dead in the water, women children, the lot. Maybe even keep a few aside, get some hangings on the go, public ones like, im talkin real good old fashioned hangings here right in the town square, people could bring the children and make a day of it.

Edited April 26, 2006 by PLO

[The Silver Thong]

why even let them get off the boat silver thong?, we could use the money were saving from prison sentences and give it to the navy to increase patrol and just shoot them dead in the water, women children, the lot. Maybe even keep a few aside, get some hangings on the go, public ones like, im talkin real good old fashioned hangings here right in the town square, people could bring the children and make a day of it.

Ok what the hell are you talking about? I truly hope that you were using sarcasm. If that was an attack then yikes the majority rule your "nuts"

If not then let them off the boat, but anyone coming here on a boat that is illegal, well hold them assess them and well send them back. If I commit a crime in my country and flee to another I would expect nothing less then a very intense back ground check. Is that not reasonable?

If I were a criminal in my country and came to yours what should i expect a basket of flowers and a wellfair check, free housing and an open passport to bring in family? no matter there background.

If a proper check is done and in most cases it is not,but if the proper steps are taken to limit felons from other countries entering mine good!

Public hangings and killing children, is that your kind of justice is that what your use to, oh ya this was coming from a guy who thought Canada was a third world nation. I apologize

Edited April 26, 2006 by The Silver Thong

[Talon]

This has happened because of the same thing which always causes this type of thing - bleeding heartism, political correctness, multiculturalism. Unfortunately Labour is running with the torch on these issues, championing them all.

It’s insane. There is now hardly anything a criminal can do which will result in any real punishment in the UK. And if you're from an ethnic minority its even better, the legal system will go head-over-heels to prove you were the victim in all this, persecuted by "institutional racism", even if you were caught with the knife in hand, standing over the bloody-body, and told the police when you arrived “I’m glad I killed the bast*rd”.

Human rights, ideas of equally were all good on paper, they were good on initial practice. But now it’s gone too far. Someone who rapes a baby, is not my equal, and I don't care what the PC brigade want to say about "victims of environment". Terrorists and rapists have no human-rights, and I don't care what the PC brigade want to say about "their inner-child and the nice-person inside who'd get out if we didn't stop looking down on them".

Because they shouldn't have human-rights and they are not our equals. They are scum. They are filth. They are sub-humans. They are the monsters under the bed. They are the predators which came with us when we moved from the forests into cities. And it is our right, to persecute and slaughter them.

[PLO]

not sure if it qualifies them as "terrorists" though. But mostly what the goverment doesnt seem to appreciate that a lot of these illegal immigrants are proper criminals, like mafia's. And their just expanding their operations into countries like britian.

[british_patriot]

I think we Brits will see David Cameron in office soon...I hope.

[eden grange]

I agree with the point that the BNP are going to win more seats and I think its all good!

[Talon]

I think we Brits will see David Cameron in office soon...I hope.

Thats going to be awhile, the next general election is 3.5 years away

Anyway, Cameron is just as soft on crime as Labour is.

I agree with the point that the BNP are going to win more seats and I think its all good!

The BNP are Nazis I hope they all die before they gain power, however I do hope they win a lot of votes in the local elections next month to give the moderate parties a wake-up call to how sick the UK is of political correctness and multiculturalism.

[__Kratos__]

The BNP are Nazis I hope they all die before they gain power, however I do hope they win a lot of votes in the local elections next month to give the moderate parties a wake-up call to how sick the UK is of political correctness and multiculturalism.

Oh, they are sick of it. I've been seeing news on their rising support all the time.

Here are some recent news on them:

'Most Britons actually support BNP policies'

A majority of people back the British National Party's policies, according to a poll released today.

More 'considering voting for BNP'

Anger with the main parties has led more people to consider voting for the British National Party, a report for a social policy research group says.

[Talon]

I personally would never vote the BNP, and I can't support many of their policies since I'm not a racist and I have Black, Indian and Chinese friends and like the Japanese (except for the whaling culture)... however some of their policies I do think are reasonable and now sympathise with.

And who's to blame for increase in support for this Nazi party? The PC brigade, because they've made us so sick of multiculturalism.

[Bella-Angelique]

Laws are only as good as the enforcement in place to support them.

Without enforcement any law is only so much meaningless words.

[The Silver Thong]

They don't need to be labeled as terrorists but as criminals that disregard the laws and beliefs of the nation they have become a part of.

http://media.putfile.com/Secret-Government-1

This is unacceptable

Would it be acceptibal if I were to walk down the street with a sign that said death to those who are islam?????

I know it is said these are radicals but how many radicals does it take to blow up a building............ ONE.

These people with there signs that promote death to who ever does not believe, well send them to a country that does believe,and keep them there.

Edited April 27, 2006 by The Silver Thong