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[Imaginary Friend]

Spanish Version of 'Star-Spangled Banner' Draws Protests

Thursday, April 27, 2006

MIAMI — British music producer Adam Kidron says that when he came up with the idea of a Spanish-language version of the U.S. national anthem, he saw it as an ode to the millions of immigrants seeking a better life.

But in the week since Kidron announced the song — which features artists such as Wyclef Jean, hip-hop star Pitbull and Puerto Rican singers Carlos Ponce and Olga Tanon — it has been the target of a fierce backlash.

Some Internet bloggers and others are infuriated by the thought of "The Star-Spangled Banner" sung in a language other than English. Others are outraged by an unreleased version with new and ardently pro-immigrant lyrics.

"Would the French accept people singing the La Marseillaise in English as a sign of French patriotism? Of course not," said Mark Krikorian, head of the Washington-based Center for Immigration Studies, a think tank that supports tighter immigration controls.

The initial version of "Nuestro Himno," or "Our Anthem," comes out Friday and uses lyrics based closely on the English-language original, said Kidron, who heads the record label Urban Box Office.

Pro-immigration protests are planned around the country for Monday, and the record label is urging Hispanic radio stations nationwide to play the cut at 7 p.m. EDT Friday in a sign of solidarity. (Cont'd)

[eckogangsta]

Lol thats funny.

If people dont like it, dont listen to it.

[Mars]

yeah don't bother learning the language that we use.

[__Kratos__]

Lol thats funny.

If people dont like it, dont listen to it.

Yeah, they don't have to listen to it.

I saw this the other day, I was a bit irked. I mean, singing our national anthem in support of illegal immigrants is an oxymoron. All they do is break our laws.

Now if it was in support of the legal hispanic community, go for it. Wouldn't be the first time someone's changed the language of the national anthem. I've heard it in German, Russian and a couple others in Civics class.

[Otacon]

It's not only that, but us Americans are stooping down to there level. I recently just moved into a new town and was frightened to see how many signs have the primary message in English and then below it in little tiny letters is the spanish translation.

Enough is enough. If we keep on making it easy for people of another country to live here without even as much as learning our language then hell...we'll be over-run soon. In a good ten years from now the mexicans will be the majority and will be the minority....

[__Kratos__]

Update: Bush: Sing 'Star-Spangled Banner' in English

"One of the things that's very important is, when we debate this issue, that we not lose our national soul," the president exclaimed. "One of the great things about America is that we've been able to take people from all walks of life bound as one nation under God. And that's the challenge ahead of us."

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For offical use and such, I agree.

[supercar]

They did the Spanish version of the US national anthem just to annoy people. It is immature and stupid to do something just to annoy someone else. It makes the entire immigrant movement look immature and stupid. If things keep going like this,sooner or later there will be a backlash.

[CharmedFan3]

oh my god what idiots, first of all this is the US not Mexico so i will give all the illegals advice take the fajita and enchilada somwhere else!!

[Bella-Angelique]

This Monday will reveal a lot more. When you consider that the organizers of the protest tried to keep them from using Mexican flags last time and say they are trying even harder to get them to not use them, it says a whole lot about how things are really going. - Bella

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DENVER -- La reconquista, a radical movement calling for Mexico to "reconquer" America's Southwest, has stepped out of the shadows at recent immigration-reform protests nationwide as marchers held signs saying, "Uncle Sam Stole Our Land!" and waved Mexico's flag.

Even as organizers urged marchers to display U.S. flags, the theme of reclaiming "stolen" land remained strong. One popular banner read: "If you think I'm illegal because I'm a Mexican, learn the true history because I'm in my homeland."

"We need to change direction," said Jose Lugo, an instructor in Ethnic Studies at the University of Colorado at Boulder at a campus march last week. "And by allowing these 50,000, 50 million [immigrants] to come in here, we can do that."

The revolutionary tone has surprised even longtime immigration watchers such as Ira Mehlman, the Los Angeles-based spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform.

"I've always been skeptical myself about this [reconquista], but what I've seen over the last few weeks leads me to believe that there's more there than I thought," Mr. Mehlman said.

"You're seeing people marching with Mexican flags chanting, 'This is our country.' I don't think that we can dismiss this as youthful exuberance or a bunch of hotheads," he said.

Hispanic rights leaders insist there's nothing to the so-called reconquista, sometimes referred to as Aztlan, the mythical ancestral homeland of the Aztecs that reportedly stretches from the border to southern Oregon and Colorado.

Nativo Lopez, president of the Mexican American Political Association in Los Angeles, one of the march organizers, was infuriated when a reporter asked him about the reconquista.

"I can't believe you're bothering me with questions about this. You're not serious," Mr. Lopez said. "I can't believe you're bothering with such a minuscule, fringe element that has no resonance with this populous."

At the same time, some analysts say the seismic demographic shifts brought on by unchecked border crossings and birth rates are resulting in a de facto reconquista.

"Demographically, socially and culturally, the reconquista of the Southwest United States by Mexico is well under way," Harvard University professor Samuel P. Huntington said in 2004. link

[wunarmdscissor]

I would love it if Flower of scotland was sung ni Gaelic , like the Irish soldier song.

And if other culures were singin the national anthem in their native tongue i wouldnt mind it. it at least shows they loev the country.

[wunarmdscissor]

I would love it if Flower of scotland was sung ni Gaelic , like the Irish soldier song.

And if other culures were singin the national anthem in their native tongue i wouldnt mind it. it at least shows they loev the country.

[PLO]

Im suprised americans cant adopt their native languages.

[Ned Tunacao]

I was infuriated until I heard that the melody for the Star Spangled Banner is stolen from an English drinking song.

Then I laughed at myself.

[CharmedFan3]

i dont understand why the US just deports all Mexicans back to Mexico today!!

Edited April 29, 2006 by CharmedFan3

[MUNA]

Charmed

That was harsh

[Ravinar]

i dont understand why the US just deports all Mexicans back to Mexico today!!

thats a great idea!!! and wile your at it why don't we send all the black people back to africa and send all us white folks back to europe and all asians back to asia and leave this country to its rightful owners the native americans. yep sounds like a plan to me!

[supercar]

and leave this country to its rightful owners the native americans

The indigenous peoples of the Americas have never been 'one' people. The original Asians who crossed the Bering Strait came as tribes. Later tribes were in a constant state of warfare with each other. Sure the Spanish basically started a holocaust when they came to America. But when Cortez overthrew the Aztecs guess who helped him? Other indigenous peoples. Other indigenous people helped start the holocaust against 'their own' people.

[Ravinar]

The indigenous peoples of the Americas have never been 'one' people. The original Asians who crossed the Bering Strait came as tribes. Later tribes were in a constant state of warfare with each other. Sure the Spanish basically started a holocaust when they came to America. But when Cortez overthrew the Aztecs guess who helped him? Other indigenous peoples. Other indigenous people helped start the holocaust against 'their own' people.

i was being sarcastic

[rob lester]

Man , I thought it was bad when " 99 red luft balloons" was put into english ( 80's one hit wonder ) ...That was sarcasm.Here in Nevada you first hear or read in spanish , than hit "2 " to hear this in english...Our DMV books now are double the size with both english/spanish ...How much did that cost?...When flyers sent home from our public schools , you guessed it , english/spanish .....I smell a civil war in future , not in mine , but in the future...All these people protesting war in Iraq , I would join them if they changed motto to :

" Bring our soldiers back to take OUR country back " ....Than they would have me

Edited April 29, 2006 by rob lester

[shikon1]

Man , I thought it was bad when " 99 red luft balloons" was put into english ( 80's one hit wonder ) ...That was sarcasm.Here in Nevada you first hear or read in spanish , than hit "2 " to hear this in english...Our DMV books now are double the size with both english/spanish ...How much did that cost?...When flyers sent home from our public schools , you guessed it , english/spanish .....I smell a civil war in future , not in mine , but in the future...All these people protesting war in Iraq , I would join them if they changed motto to :

" Bring our soldiers back to take OUR country back " ....Than they would have me

[Triniant]

NUMBER 1 - The US was built on immigration.

NUMBER 2 - THERE IS NO OFFICIAL LANGUAGE IN THE US.

If anyone has the right to sing the US National Anthem it is the US citizens; they can sing it in any language they so damn well please. Get over it, the US was built and incorporates just about every nationality that exists today.

[novaceleste]

Shikon1, that is some powerful stuff. And I agree. It gets on my nerves that during the PTA meetings that we have to listen to everything in English and Spanish. :angry2:

I married a hispanic, his family is from Goliad, TX. They have land that has been in the family since Texas was Mexico. Anyways, my last name is Flores. I am sick of getting mail addressed to me that is in Spanish. Alos, that phone calls! (thank goodness for caller id)

My husband doesn't speak a word of Spanish either. He has a funny shirt though. It says...

Welcome to America, now speak English!

[rob lester]

To Triniant:

Official Languge :

97th CONGRESS

1st Session

S. J. R. 72

IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

April 27, 1981

Mr. Hayakawa introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

JOINT RESOLUTION

Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States establishing English as the official language of the United States.

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled (two-thirds of each House concurring therein), That the following article is proposed as an amendment to the Constitution of the United States, which shall be valid to all intents and purposes as part of the Constitution when ratified by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years after the date of its submission for ratification:

`Article --

`Section 1. The English language shall be the official language of the United States.

`Section 2. Neither the United States nor any State shall make or enforce any law which requires the use of any language other than English.

`Section 3. This article shall apply to laws, ordinances, regulations, orders, programs, and policies.

`Section 4. No order or decree shall be issued by any court of the United States or of any State requiring that any proceedings, or matters to which this article applies be in any language other than English.

`Section 5. This article shall not prohibit educational instruction in a language other than English as required as a transitional method of making students who use a language other than English proficient in English.

`Section 6. The Congress and the States shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.'

Ok , there is your "official language" ....I never said USA not built on immigration.I have another topic I am typing in on this.I just say it makes me sick as hell to see ANYONE come in to the USA illegally and demand changes.Become legal , do it diplomatically.I have nothing against tha.But come in here and fly your flag in protest march's?....Let us put a spin on this......Say , Iraq/Afghanistan/Iran American citizens decided to protest against illegal immigration....And , they burned AMERICAN FLAGS , and flew their countries?...Would you still stand by your last statements?....This is AMERICA , our fore fathers fought for our rights , and anyone who wants to come here legally!!!

Edited April 30, 2006 by rob lester

[Triniant]

To Triniant:

Official Languge :

97th CONGRESS

1st Session

S. J. R. 72

IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

April 27, 1981

Mr. Hayakawa introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

JOINT RESOLUTION

Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States establishing English as the official language of the United States.

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled (two-thirds of each House concurring therein), That the following article is proposed as an amendment to the Constitution of the United States, which shall be valid to all intents and purposes as part of the Constitution when ratified by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years after the date of its submission for ratification:

`Article --

`Section 1. The English language shall be the official language of the United States.

`Section 2. Neither the United States nor any State shall make or enforce any law which requires the use of any language other than English.

`Section 3. This article shall apply to laws, ordinances, regulations, orders, programs, and policies.

`Section 4. No order or decree shall be issued by any court of the United States or of any State requiring that any proceedings, or matters to which this article applies be in any language other than English.

`Section 5. This article shall not prohibit educational instruction in a language other than English as required as a transitional method of making students who use a language other than English proficient in English.

`Section 6. The Congress and the States shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.'

Ok , there is your "official language" ....I never said USA not built on immigration.I have another topic I am typing in on this.I just say it makes me sick as hell to see ANYONE come in to the USA illegally and demand changes.Become legal , do it diplomatically.I have nothing against tha.But come in here and fly your flag in protest march's?....Let us put a spin on this......Say , Iraq/Afghanistan/Iran American citizens decided to protest against illegal immigration....And , they burned AMERICAN FLAGS , and flew their countries?...Would you still stand by your last statements?....This is AMERICA , our fore fathers fought for our rights , and anyone who wants to come here legally!!!

This was never passed, nor has it been since, but it is introduced, time and time again. Do some research. There is no official language for the US.

[rob lester]

Ok , I will go with your last response.So tell me than, our public schools , our businesses , our government.....What language do you suggest?...Do we start teaching everyone every language here currently?....You tell us....USA should speak what language(s) ?

ok , i fibbed :

The United States does not have an official language; nevertheless, American English (referred to in the US as simply English) is the language used for legislation, regulations, executive orders, treaties, federal court rulings, and all other official pronouncements. Additionally, one must demonstrate an ability to read, write, and speak English to become a naturalized citizen. Many individual states and territories have also adopted English as their official language:

Let me add this to clarify : ( and Native Americans , Indians have all the room to talk )

Several states and territories are officially bilingual:

* Louisiana (English and French),

* New Mexico (English and Spanish),

* Hawaii (Hawaiian English and Hawaiian),

* Puerto Rico (Spanish and English),

* Guam (Chamorro and English),

* American Samoa (Samoan and English);

And one is officially trilingual:

* Northern Mariana Islands (English, Chamorro, and Carolinian).

Until the 1950s, Pennsylvania was officially bilingual in English and German.

Native American languages are official or co-official on many of the US Indian reservations and pueblos.

Edited April 30, 2006 by rob lester