BNP doubles number of councillors

[Talon]

BNP doubles number of councillors

British National Party supporters claim it is "on its way" after doubling its number of councillors in England.

The biggest gains were in Barking and Dagenham, where it seized 11 of the 13 seats it contested, becoming the second party. One ward has still to declare.

The BNP also won seats in Epping Forest, Stoke-on-Trent and Sandwell.

The party fielded more than 350 candidates and now has 46 seats in England. Before Thursday's local elections it held about 20 of 22,000.

Hodge criticised

Barking Labour MP Margaret Hodge has been criticised for saying during the campaign that 80% of white families in the area were "tempted" by the BNP.

Barking and Dagenham is the first council in the country to have the BNP as the second-biggest party.

It also picked up three seats in Stoke-on-Trent, where Labour lost overall control, and three more in Sandwell in the Black Country.

It took a further three in Epping Forest, in east London.

The BNP won single seats in Solihull, Redditch, Redbridge, Pendle, Leeds and Burnley. However, it lost a seat in Bradford.

BNP leader Nick Griffin said the party had benefited from "people wanting to kick the Labour Party really hard and we're the politically incorrect way to do it".

He added: "When you look at some our results elsewhere in the country where we've hammered the Conservatives as well, this is a revolt against the entire liberal political elite by the hardworking people of Britain who resent being taxed to have our country transformed."

'Dishonest politicians'

Russell Green, who won a seat in Sandwell, said the BNP was "on its way".

He added: "It is plain to see that the vast majority of us are sick and tired of the dishonest and self-interested politicians that are ruining our communities and our country."

When asked about the BNP, Environment Secretary Margaret Beckett told BBC Radio 5 Live: "They are deceitful. They are very unpleasant, nasty people who try to exploit problems and try to turn people against each other. They are very dangerous."

But Mr Griffin said: "We're not a Nazi party. People can look at our manifesto online and see we're committed to a libertarian position in many things, and most certainly to the extension let alone the maintenance of democracy."

The BNP claimed a shock win from Labour in Solihull when it won the Chelmsley Wood ward by 19 votes, securing its first seat on the council.

Speaking after the vote, which saw the Conservatives retain control, winning BNP candidate George Morgan said it was a victory for the ordinary working man.

He said: "This is Labour's third term and they've done nothing for the country. People are sick and tired of all the lies. We are offering people a choice."

His Labour opponent, Nicholas Stephens, said: "It's a very disappointing result but the BNP were quite close two years ago so it's not surprising, what with the events going on nationally over the past two weeks.

"You don't have to be a genius to work out why some Labour voters either stayed at home or switched to other parties."

Mrs Hodge said: "We have to challenge the values of the neo-Nazi party."

On her comments during the election campaign, she added: "My aim was not to give the BNP publicity but to raise awareness of the issues. It is something I have been saying for some time.

"I think we must have a much more open policy on the issue of race. This is something that affects the whole of the political spectrum, not just the Labour Party.

"This is an issue that we have all failed to address properly, I feel."

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See this is the natural result of multiculturalism and Political Correctness. The average people on the street are so sick they turn to fascist parties to help them. All moderate parties must take this as a warning and ditch policies of PCism and MCism and take harder stances against criminals, terrorists, and imigration or else alienated voters will continue to have no choice but to vote for fascism.

Edited May 5, 2006 by Talon

[RedEyeJedi]

Funny how foreign criminals on the loose has been so heavily reported on just before the elections. Coincidence? Who knows.

[.AKUMA.]

The average people on the street are so sick they turn to fascist parties to help them. All moderate parties must take this as a warning and ditch policies of PCism and MCism and take harder stances against criminals, terrorists, and imigration or else alienated voters will continue to have no choice but to vote for fascism.

i agree but the BNP need to get slapped a fascist part such as them will do no

good for Britain on the long run

Edited May 5, 2006 by AKUMA166

[Waspie_Dwarf]

Many of the votes cast for the BNP were by people disillusioned by the main 3 parties. We need to have an abstain or none of the above option on the ballet papers so that people can register their disillusionment without having to vote for these fascists.

[Talon]

We need to have an abstain or none of the above option

To do that all you have to do is not turn up. If people wanted to make a protest vote there were other parties to vote for like the Islamic Party of Britain, the Greens, UKIP etc. The BNP we deliberately voted based on their hard-line policies on crime, terrorism and immigration which is what the polls show people are right now angry about. Voting Greens would have been a protest vote, but it wouldn't have gotten the message across that it was crime and immigration which were the problems, rather the environment.

Labour and Tories for example believe two years in jail is punishment enough for raping a child. The Liberals and Greens are even worse. I don't know what the BNP would do... shoot the rapist I'd guess. Either way, if you're going to make a point on crime, voting the fascists puts across the point better than 'none of the above' which could mean anything from 'rape should be legal' to 'I want a policy giving free parking to alien visitors' (the later of which is probably a Natural Law Party policy )

The fact is, the BNP are nasty little fascist Nazi b*stards. The problem is if you look at their manifesto many of their policies aren't in themselves racist e.g. tougher sentences for criminals isn't racist, deporting Islamic fundamentalists isn't racist, cutting down on immigration isn't racist. These are issues which the main parties simply don't want to do, Labour and the Tories are so obsessed with human rights they'd probably lay down the red carpet and sign Osama Bin Laden up for welfare if he decided to move here because of 'his human rights'. The BNP are evil Nazis, but many of their policies are justifiable ones that the public want, and they are only party willing to offer them. Therefore a vote for the BNP isn't just a protest vote against the main parties, it’s a statement of support for certain policies the BNP hold.

The problem is the BNP are evil, and we can only hope the main stream parties wake up and give the people the policies they want before the BNP gain some real level of power.

Unfortunately it doesn’t look like they will. On Sky news I’ve seen Labour and Tory MPs coming on and putting the BNP’s rise in power down to ‘not enough Multiculturalism’ rather than the problem which is that there is too much of it. And Labour’s blaming of Margaret Hodge is pathetic. All she was doing was giving a warning to the mainstream parties, yet they somehow think the average voter is so thick that her saying “the BNP’s hard-line policies may gain a lot of support’” somehow made thousands of people suddenly decide to vote BNP. Utterly ridiculous, they voted BNP because of long term reasons not because a Labour MP’s words 10-days ago somehow made them think it was suddenly a good idea.

[7 Percent]

Trouble is with all the political correctness around ,nobody dare say what their true feelings are without being branded a racist. I'm thinking that ordinary British people are fed up with importing scumbags from around the world and are voting accordingly. My vote will be for the BNP at the next election and im a mild mannered type of person.

[Waspie_Dwarf]

It was so called mild mannered people that voted in Hitler. If you vote BNP then you are a supporter of fascists and a rascists. Do not make excuses for your behaviour, have the guts to admit what sort of person you are.

[Waspie_Dwarf]

To do that all you have to do is not turn up.

The problem with not turning up is that it is not seen as a protest vote, it is indistinguishable from apathy.

The BNPs share of the vote actually fell in this election. What they did was more effectively target areas where people were most annoyed with the big three.

I suspect that the news about the c***-up in not deporting criminals helped them as well.

[7 Percent]

It was so called mild mannered people that voted in Hitler. If you vote BNP then you are a supporter of fascists and a rascists. Do not make excuses for your behaviour, have the guts to admit what sort of person you are.

Well as a typical white English person i feel we have gone to far with our policy of letting anyone into this country , its made places like Bradford and Birmingham , no go areas for white English people as the immigrants have made a community that does not accept the English. They have made a little India or Pakistan or China there, nothing British about that . Lots of criminals have also been allowed into this country by Blair and the political correct police, they kill rob and make mayhem , but you want them here. I want to get rid of them England is not for Asians they need to go home same with Chinese . All i want in England is White people who were born here or we will be overwealmed by migrants from poor countries.

[Waspie_Dwarf]

That's more like it. Showing your true racsist colours. I'll give you 2 examples of countries which have had policies of restricting the rights of, or repatriating those of the "wrong" colour... Uganda and Zimbabwe. Before they instigated rascist policies they were 2 of the richest countries in Africa. Now they are 2 of the poorest countries in the world. That is what the BNP would do to the UK. Why? Because amongst the imigrant community are some of the best educated and most skilled members of our society. The National Health service struggles to find enough doctors and nurses now. How will it cope if you "send home" all the non-whites.

A vote for the BNP is a vote for stupidity.

That's the last I will say on this subject. I get a headache and become angry trying to think down to the level of British Nazi Party supporters.

Edited May 6, 2006 by Waspie_Dwarf

[RedEyeJedi]

Mister 7 percent, (7% of what, I wonder - I've a good idea), I am not white, I was born here and have been here for almost 30 years, where do you suggest I should go home to?

PS: You are far from a typical English person.

Edited May 6, 2006 by RedEyeJedi

[Talon]

If you vote BNP then you are a supporter of fascists and a rascists. Do not make excuses for your behaviour, have the guts to admit what sort of person you are.

While 7 Percent’s second post certainly sounded racist, not everyone who votes for the BNP will be. As I said the BNP members themselves are nasty little bigots, but many of their policies are quite reasonable, yet they are the only party willing to offer them. According to YouGov polls around 66% of respondents supported their policies on Immigration and Crime. Furthermore, Mori has shown up to 80% of white people in some areas support their policies and would now consider voting for them. I don’t believe for a second this means 66%-80% of white people are racist, only that they are so sick of PCism telling them Xmas is to banned because its offensive to ethnic minorities, or that Abu Hamza can’t be arrested because he has human rights etc (lets remember he was only finally arrested when the Americans wanted him deported, the whole trial was just a way of keeping him safe from the US). If the non-racist Labour Party would drop PCism and take a tougher line on crime and immigration we’d see their support come right back.

I think the only BNP voters who are racist are the one’s who support the ‘send them all back home’ polices are 7 Percent’s says he does.

Just for note, I would personally never vote BNP.

[Waspie_Dwarf]

I was careful how I phrased that. I called the BNP voter supporters of fascists and rascists, which is factually correct, I did not say BNP voters were fascists and rascists.

I doubt if most Germans would have considered themself anti-semitic when they voted for the National Socalist Party.

[Talon]

I was careful how I phrased that. I called the BNP voter supporters of fascists and rascists, which is factually correct, I did not say BNP voters were fascists and rascists.

I know you didn't, and thats why nowhere did I say you ever called BNP voters racists.

Edited May 6, 2006 by Talon

[Waspie_Dwarf]

Fairy snuff.

[Tommy]

As Talon has mentioned, the BNP is riding on a wave discontent about certain issues that the main parties have failed to directly engage.

I think they’ve been clever about targeting their voters to get this result. They are a racist party that can say whatever populist policies it wants in public, because they know they’re never going to get any serious support from middle Britain. Look at the interview with David Dimbleby to highlight how ridiculous their policies are.

As for Labour, the recent scandals have shown a level of incompetence that effectively undermines its integrity as an effective leader. These local elections reflect that sentiment. I can’t find specific figures yet, but I’m guessing this year’s local elections were another record low turnout.

[Erikl]

I want to get rid of them England is not for Asians they need to go home same with Chinese . All i want in England is White people who were born here or we will be overwealmed by migrants from poor countries.

I wonder if he realises how many of Britain's cultural and historical events have been influenced by Asians and Chinese people...

I also wonder if he knows that the English themselves aren't natives to Brtain, but "krautish" invaders of mixed Medditerranean Roman (ewww mud people! ) and barbarian German blood.

Let's kick the Italian and German invaders off Britain!

Give Britain back to the Britons!

[RedEyeJedi]

I wonder if he realises how many of Britain's cultural and historical events have been influenced by Asians and Chinese people...

I also wonder if he knows that the English themselves aren't natives to Brtain, but "krautish" invaders of mixed Medditerranean Roman (ewww mud people! ) and barbarian German blood.

Let's kick the Italian and German invaders off Britain!

Give Britain back to the Britons!

Racism comes from ignorance.

[Waspie_Dwarf]

If many of the theories of human evolution are correct won't well all have to go back to Africa?

[Waspie_Dwarf]

I can’t find specific figures yet, but I’m guessing this year’s local elections were another record low turnout.

The last time these particular councils seats were voted on was in May 2002. Turn out then was 35%, the highest turn out for council elections since Labour came to power, Source: BBC News

This time for the same seats turn out was 37%. The Electoral Commission, so turn out was actually fairly good for a local election.

Some of the local elections in between have had much higher turn outs but this was due to experimentation with all postal voting.

Edited May 7, 2006 by Waspie_Dwarf

[Talon]

If many of the theories of human evolution are correct won't well all have to go back to Africa?

Of course it’s correct. Despite what the religious zealots claim, the fossil record is not a paper-mashie hoax.

And yes, all ape species including humans, share a common African ancestor.

Our own species homo-sapien evolved in Africa and migrated from there all over the world. If the racists want to get technical, we actually stole Europe from the Neanderthals who evolved here from an earlier human species which migrated out of Africa before the evolution of our own ancestors

[__Kratos__]

Of course it’s correct. Despite what the religious zealots claim, the fossil record is not a paper-mashie hoax.

And yes, all ape species including humans, share a common African ancestor.

Our own species homo-sapien evolved in Africa and migrated from there all over the world. If the racists want to get technical, we actually stole Europe from the Neanderthals who evolved here from an earlier human species which migrated out of Africa before the evolution of our own ancestors

One should not be so quick to fall into ill fate with the tools of Lucifer. Have faith, Talon. BNP is Christian is it not? So everything is from 10k years ago and God made the Earth.

Silly people.