zarvirus Posted May 18, 2006 #1 Share Posted May 18, 2006 CLONATION In my view , clonation has been developed during last decade , and it can be a problem in the next century. On one hand, medicine can benefit from clonic studies. Doctors can learn on geneties , mutations , and biology . On the other hand, we can develope mutants people, we can generate deformed peoples and they´ll have problems with identities. In my view, advantages are not so important as this desadvantages. ---Share your points of view--- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mandricius Posted May 18, 2006 #2 Share Posted May 18, 2006 I think clonation can help humanity in some ways... for example: 1. Can help reproduce species near extinction 2. Generete humans organs, especially for needed people. 3. Give people how cant have children nor adopt them a child of their own blood... there are too many benefits in clonation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaknelson Posted May 18, 2006 #3 Share Posted May 18, 2006 (edited) CLONATION In my view , clonation has been developed during last decade , and it can be a problem in the next century. On one hand, medicine can benefit from clonic studies. Doctors can learn on geneties , mutations , and biology . On the other hand, we can develope mutants people, we can generate deformed peoples and they´ll have problems with identities. In my view, advantages are not so important as this desadvantages. ---Share your points of view--- Against. I seem to agree with Za. The negatives simply outweigh the benefits when it comes to cloning. One can prophesize that much more evil would come out of this than good... in relation to cloning humans. Edited May 18, 2006 by Kaknelson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adramaleck Posted May 18, 2006 #4 Share Posted May 18, 2006 There are more benefits than disadvantages. A possible disadvantage is that a nation can clone a perfect soldier over and over; train them from birth to kill. Then would that even be bad, if we were the ones weilding the power? In any event, I don't believe even this is a disadvantage not because it is not possible, but rather not plausable. When creating a clone, one cannot speed up time or make an identical person to another - for both nature and nurture affect one's psyche. With this in mind, it would take at least 20 years to create this army - give or take a couple of years to fill these years with training and skills. Within the next 20-30 years, it is not a stretch to say that robots will be fighting wars for us - indeed we already have robotic counterparts to our soldiers today. Some are guards, others survailence drones, and others machine guns with wheels. Radio controlled bots with a centrifigul gun mounted on top are not far off. Possible benefits may include a new completely compatible heart for your grandmother who had a stroke, or a new face for a burn victim. A Hypoallergenic cat (already out..) and many other interesting and useful things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolverinno Posted May 18, 2006 #5 Share Posted May 18, 2006 with it Cloned stem cells prove identical to fertilized stem cells NC&T/WIBR Also known as somatic cell nuclear transfer, therapeutic cloning is a promising approach to create individually customized cellular therapies for treating certain disorders. Demonstrated in mice but not in humans, it begins with stem cells derived from a cloned embryo. But if cloned embryos can't produce normal organisms, how can they produce normal stem cells? Analyzing the complete gene-expression profiles of both cloned and fertilization-derived stem cells in mice, scientists at Whitehead Institute for Biomedical Research now have concluded that the two are, in fact, indistinguishable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zarvirus Posted May 18, 2006 Author #6 Share Posted May 18, 2006 with it Cloned stem cells prove identical to fertilized stem cells NC&T/WIBR Also known as somatic cell nuclear transfer, therapeutic cloning is a promising approach to create individually customized cellular therapies for treating certain disorders. Demonstrated in mice but not in humans, it begins with stem cells derived from a cloned embryo. But if cloned embryos can't produce normal organisms, how can they produce normal stem cells? Analyzing the complete gene-expression profiles of both cloned and fertilization-derived stem cells in mice, scientists at Whitehead Institute for Biomedical Research now have concluded that the two are, in fact, indistinguishable. i think your article is incomplete wolverinno...but it seems interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Star III Posted May 20, 2006 #7 Share Posted May 20, 2006 I didn't vote because I'm with it and I'm against it at the same time. I'm with it because I must adnit that it would be really cool to have a clone of myself or have clone pets. I'm against it because it would be very unethical to clone amd also a very smart and very evil mad scientest could create an army of clones that he/she could use to take over the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie_Dwarf Posted May 20, 2006 #8 Share Posted May 20, 2006 If we were to ban every advance that had potentially bad uses we would never have sharpened the first flint tool. There is very little technology that can't be subverted for the wrong purposes. Those who will wish to use cloning for "evil" purposes will disregard the laws prohibiting the research. By banning research in these areas those who will suffer will be those that could benefit from the legitimate uses of these advances. Society needs to sort itself out morally, not restrict scientific research through fear. If we allow fear of advance to win we might as well throw all our technology away and go back to living in caves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogfish Posted May 20, 2006 #9 Share Posted May 20, 2006 I am for it only for the purposes of Therapeutic Cloning and Stem Cell Lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaknelson Posted May 20, 2006 #10 Share Posted May 20, 2006 (edited) If we allow fear of advance to win we might as well throw all our technology away and go back to living in caves. LOL. that's a little harsh... it's just this possibility of cloning human life. It seems so unatural. It can be viewed as playing "God." I suppose there is strong medical benefits to cloning. Edited May 20, 2006 by Kaknelson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Posted May 20, 2006 #11 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Cloning has some good possible advantages; regenerating organs, saving an endangered species etc. but I don't think full humans should be cloned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inchoatus Posted May 21, 2006 #12 Share Posted May 21, 2006 Im going againts it. For sure it has great advantages really. BUT because we humans have weak minds and very easy to be tempted. We will abuse it, and it will reign chaos all over the world. Trust me. No matter how smart we are especially right now, it we will screw up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zarvirus Posted May 21, 2006 Author #13 Share Posted May 21, 2006 Im going againts it. For sure it has great advantages really. BUT because we humans have weak minds and very easy to be tempted. We will abuse it, and it will reign chaos all over the world. Trust me. No matter how smart we are especially right now, it we will screw up. Well thats the big problem...we humans always use things in the wrong way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie_Dwarf Posted May 23, 2006 #14 Share Posted May 23, 2006 LOL. that's a little harsh... it's just this possibility of cloning human life. It seems so unatural. It can be viewed as playing "God." I suppose there is strong medical benefits to cloning. All technology is unnatural. There is nothing natural about cars or aircraft or rockets. All of these technologies have been used to benefit mankind and all have been used as weapons of war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaknelson Posted May 24, 2006 #15 Share Posted May 24, 2006 (edited) All technology is unnatural. There is nothing natural about cars or aircraft or rockets. All of these technologies have been used to benefit mankind and all have been used as weapons of war. Very true. But the possiblity of manipulating human life, to me, is in a league of its own. Edited May 24, 2006 by Kaknelson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_knight5456 Posted May 28, 2006 #16 Share Posted May 28, 2006 I think only the military should be able to use cloning in order to reduce the number of casualties in war or to take the best and smartest soldier that they have and make clones to when wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shikon1 Posted May 28, 2006 #17 Share Posted May 28, 2006 (edited) i am 100% against human cloning but iffy on cloning organs and animals, so i voted against it theres something that just dosent seem right about it, like the elite, they can clone themselves and say a hitler-like leader comes in the future and has this cloning tech just imagine yeah theres a bunch of benifits but i just dont like the idea and what the guy below me posted i agree with that Edited May 28, 2006 by shikon1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paquetboy1 Posted May 28, 2006 #18 Share Posted May 28, 2006 Against it. In all the animal Kingdom we evolve with the survival of the fittest or in this case gene's messing with that evolution could have horrible outcomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogfish Posted May 28, 2006 #19 Share Posted May 28, 2006 messing with that evolution could have horrible outcomes We are not messing with evolution, we are saving lives Do some research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boltwave Posted May 28, 2006 #20 Share Posted May 28, 2006 I think clonation can help humanity in some ways... for example: 1. Can help reproduce species near extinction 2. Generete humans organs, especially for needed people. 3. Give people how cant have children nor adopt them a child of their own blood... there are too many benefits in clonation! Imagine giving life to another human being with your exact physical and genetic features, but then imagine what if you had created another human soul, yet you discarded them off as an object simply forged by cell organisms and DNA inheritence, cloning goes against everything in nature, and it just isn't allowed, has anyone here seen Jurassic Park? The moral of that story still stands: "life will find a way." There is not a single human being in this universe, even at an attempt to clone a perfect model, they would still have differences from yourself, this is why it is impossible for humans ourselves to create another living organism with 100% of your cell structure, in fact, when they clone sheep, there are still differences making them unique amongst the original as in comparison with the clone. Playing God is dangerous, much like what Kaknelson said, and it just isn't allowed to be so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack_of_Blades Posted May 29, 2006 #21 Share Posted May 29, 2006 I'm with it for medical uses and for bringing back animals that man has wiped out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boltwave Posted May 29, 2006 #22 Share Posted May 29, 2006 I'm with it for medical uses and for bringing back animals that man has wiped out That is possible however, and I would be for it if we used some modern day specimens to clone the exinct ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogfish Posted May 29, 2006 #23 Share Posted May 29, 2006 The best use is Therapeutic cloning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strangebutsmart Posted June 22, 2006 #24 Share Posted June 22, 2006 I think clonation can help humanity in some ways... for example: 1. Can help reproduce species near extinction 2. Generete humans organs, especially for needed people. 3. Give people how cant have children nor adopt them a child of their own blood... there are too many benefits in clonation! I agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strangebutsmart Posted June 22, 2006 #25 Share Posted June 22, 2006 That is possible however, and I would be for it if we used some modern day specimens to clone the exinct ones. Hope it's not a Dino. If they come, instead of them being extinct, we'll be the ones extinct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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