Mr Black Posted June 25, 2006 #1 Share Posted June 25, 2006 A Swiss geologist named François de Loys photographed this creature in Venezuela sometime around 1920. He claimed that the creature was a tailless, five-foot tall ape which he had encountered (and killed) in the jungle. The problem is that apes are not native to the Americas. The actual finding of one would have thrown the entire theory of primate evolution into disarray. Therefore, the scientific community concluded this photo was a fake Realizing that an American ape was an important zoological find, de Loys took a picture of the creature seated on an oil can, a long stick holding up its head. He then did his best to preserve the creature's remains, though he lacked the necessary tools to do so. Months later, de Loys made it back to civilization. Unfortunately, by this time he had lost the ape's remains during an attack by a group of Motilones Indians. However, he still had the picture. Nine years later an account of de Loys' encounter with the tailless ape, accompanied by the above photograph, was published in the Illustrated London News. It immediately caused a scientific uproar. The Paris Academy of Sciences met to discuss de Loys' discovery. The accepted theory of primate evolution held that apes and humans had evolved only in the Old World (in Africa, in particular). The discovery of a New World ape would have seriously complicated this theory. After long deliberation and discussion of the evidence, the scientists decided that the picture taken by de Loys did not display a species of ape. Instead, it showed a sapajou, a common New World monkey. The only evidence that it was not a sapajou was its size (for which they only had de Loys' word), and its lack of a tail (which de Loys could have concealed or cut off). [attachmentid=26537] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan W Posted June 25, 2006 #2 Share Posted June 25, 2006 It looks as if it has a stick holding it's head up, so it might be a taxidermied ape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan W Posted June 25, 2006 #3 Share Posted June 25, 2006 Never mind i just read the article , but still it could be a mutated taxidermied ape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDaddy_GFS Posted June 25, 2006 #4 Share Posted June 25, 2006 I believe this is an ape that was shot in the Congo. I've seen this photo attached to Congo stories before. It probably is a species of ape that has evaded identification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AROCES Posted June 25, 2006 #5 Share Posted June 25, 2006 Seen this before, it is just a spider monkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skeptic Eric Raven Posted June 25, 2006 #6 Share Posted June 25, 2006 Every story I have read on this said this ape was from the congo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex infernis Posted June 25, 2006 #7 Share Posted June 25, 2006 I read that there was two of them and he shot this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogfish Posted June 26, 2006 #8 Share Posted June 26, 2006 I have also heard that this creature was shot in the Congo...I have heard both stories... Its just a Spider monkey on a tea crate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldethyl Posted June 26, 2006 #9 Share Posted June 26, 2006 Yeah it definitely doesn't make me think 'ape man'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain pish Posted June 26, 2006 #10 Share Posted June 26, 2006 (edited) Ive seen this before it was in a book a friend of mine gave me to read. Apparently de loys and his associates came across a few of these creatures whilst in the middle of a dense jungle, cant remember where. The reason i remember this is because it is a slightly humerous story, apparently the apes began to deficate into their hands and throw it at the group of humans in a form of defense. It was then that they shot the animal and its friends escaped. I imagine it wouldnt be so amusing if i was being attacked by tons of flying monkey ****! anyways i remember reading that the monkey was in fact very real and not a fake or stuffed one. After various investigations by experts the conclusion was that the monkey was far smaller than de Loys had tried to claim and that it was clever photography and the use of small props such as the tea box that made it look comparable to humans in size. Wether that was indeed the case has never been proven. Edited June 26, 2006 by captain pish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snuffypuffer Posted June 26, 2006 #11 Share Posted June 26, 2006 Does the feces hurling monkey really deserve to die? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldethyl Posted June 26, 2006 #12 Share Posted June 26, 2006 The last time I was at the zoo the chimp threw some kibble at us. No poo tho, so we let it live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogfish Posted June 26, 2006 #13 Share Posted June 26, 2006 Does the feces hurling monkey really deserve to die The banana chuckers do...I lost a friend to those fiends! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mypaddedroom Posted June 26, 2006 #14 Share Posted June 26, 2006 I seen that picture all over the internet very old pic don't think it's a Ape Man pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogfish Posted June 27, 2006 #15 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Its features match a spider monkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indeed Posted June 27, 2006 #16 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Seen this before, it is just a spider monkey. I believe so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byuu94 Posted June 27, 2006 #17 Share Posted June 27, 2006 1. It is from Venezuela, I don't know why people have labelled it as coming from the congo. 2. It's a petrol crate. 3. Spider Monkey vs. De Loys Ape 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldethyl Posted June 28, 2006 #18 Share Posted June 28, 2006 1. It is from Venezuela, I don't know why people have labelled it as coming from the congo. 2. It's a petrol crate. 3. Spider Monkey vs. De Loys Ape 4. So what is your opinion? Do you think it was a 'bigfoot'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman Posted June 28, 2006 #19 Share Posted June 28, 2006 Ewwww. It's things like this that make me favor legalized prostitution. Hitman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldethyl Posted June 28, 2006 #20 Share Posted June 28, 2006 Ewwww. It's things like this that make me favor legalized prostitution. Hitman What? So...confused....talking...like...William Shatner..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byuu94 Posted June 28, 2006 #21 Share Posted June 28, 2006 So what is your opinion? Do you think it was a 'bigfoot'? Not neccessarily, I just want people to think about it for more than a few seconds before brushing it off as a spider monkey. I'm personally undecided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldethyl Posted June 29, 2006 #22 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Not neccessarily, I just want people to think about it for more than a few seconds before brushing it off as a spider monkey. I'm personally undecided. I'm in favor of some type of monkey although I don't know what kind. I have seen this before and heard the story that they tried to make it look bigger than it actually was. That makes sense because no people posed with it. Logically if you took down a large ape man, you'd want your pic made with it like the proud hunter. That's just what I think anyhoo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahuizotl Posted June 30, 2006 #23 Share Posted June 30, 2006 It made me remember of Ucu, a south american ape-man. But they probably aren't Ucus, just some sort of normal monkeys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhsdfskdjfsd Posted July 3, 2006 #24 Share Posted July 3, 2006 It looks almost nothing like a spider monkey, but I highly doubt it's an ape-man, like others said, it's most likely an inidentified species of ape. It obviously climbs in trees, it has the same uild of a tree climbing monkey, long fingers and limbs, but it has no visible tail, so unless they hid it's tail it's most likely an ape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Carnivore Posted July 31, 2006 #25 Share Posted July 31, 2006 it throws poo? catch it and chain it outside your door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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