Atlantis

[crystal sage]

It will be interestint to see what happens with the Bosnian pyramid....

http://avdibeg.dk/blog/2005/10/27/pyramid-...omment-page-76/

Sarajevo, there is a stone pyramid of monumental size, claims the Bosnian archeologist Semir Osmanagić, who lives and works in the USA.

After several months of geological and archeological research, Mr. Osmanagić concluded that under the present hill of Visočica hides a stairs-like pyramid, about 12,000 years old.

Osmanagić, who intensively researched on pyramids in Americas, Asia and Africa for the last 15 years and wrote several books on the subject, says he’s quite sure he found the first pyramid in Europe, which is quite similar to ones in the Southern America.

He believes that the project would completely change Bosnia’s significance in the world of archeology.

On the top of “Bosnian pyramid of Sun” was a temple, built by pre-Illyrians, people who lived, according to Osmanagić, 27,000 years ago.

[M.A.D CapeBretoner]

and what does that got to do with this

[M.A.D CapeBretoner]

here is a picture that was taken in 1975 and was used for property boundaries,elevation

here are two pictures that are from the last two but those shadows have been shaded with a rainbow of color.

there is no natural way that bedrock can be carved like this.

and if the atlantean peaple didn't carve the bedrock of the cape breton highlands then who did?

[crystal sage]

and what does that got to do with this

Basically to qualify an earlier statement that there's evidence of earlier civilizations...

Also...that many other fairly advanced civilizations were about in those prehistoric days...not just Atlantis.. many submerged ruins etc have been found lately that are puzzeling many....

here's the some sites on the Japanese submerged ruins...that they suspect also could have been the lost city of Mu....dated maybe over 17000 years...

http://www.lauralee.com/japan.htm

http://www.morien-institute.org/yonaguni.html

http://www.amazon.com/Underworld-Mysteriou...tion/1400049512

http://www.tylwythteg.com/articles/cuba.html

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=91...&q=atlantis

http://www.tylwythteg.com/Atlantis.html

http://www.grahamhancock.com/underworld/

Edited October 19, 2006 by crystal sage

[crystal sage]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?.../20/MN85913.DTL

Echoes of Plato's Atlantis

By Dr Iain Stewart

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/greek...lantis_04.shtml

[crystal sage]

Housed in a warehouse in Ica, Peru, is a collection of stone tablets which carry pictures portraying advanced medical practice. The tablets were first seen and recorded by Father Simon, a Jesuit missionary who accompanied Pizarro in 1525. Amongst other scenes portrayed are pictures of what appear to be Caesarian surgery and blood transfusions as well as the use of acupuncture needles and detailed images of what appear to be open heart surgery. The tablets are not just anomolies: they open a Pandora's box of questions and challenge everything we have been taught about our past.

It is becoming increasingly evident that our notions of human history are not simply mistaken but in need of a total overhaul. The evidence is beginning to mount to the point where it can no longer be ignored; all across the planet archaeological finds are being made that are distinctly at odds with the conventional notions of humanity’s past and point to a revolution in the way we see ourselves and our origins.

Over the last two centuries various archeological finds have been unearthed which do not fit into the conventional time-scale of pre-history; these so-called archeological anomalies have largely been buried in site reports or left to gather dust in museum storage rooms. However the sheer volume of these finds and the very nature of some of them calls for another look at the worlds before our own.

Academic consensus maintains that the ancestor of modern man emerged one million years ago. Whilst modern man, homo sapiens, only emerged as the dominant planetary life form some 40,000 years ago; this is generally the line held by conventional archeologists and anthropologists, in spite of the fact that there is considerable evidence to the contrary.

Thus we have the case of the metal spheres found by miners in the Western Transvaal, South Africa. Over the past few decades miners in the area have come across metal spheres, often grooved, in layers of sedimentation estimated at 2.8 billion years old. According to Roelf Marx, curator of the Klerksdorp museum where they are kept: “The spheres are a complete mystery. . .They’re nothing like I have ever seen before.” Moreover the spheres are so hard that they cannot be scratched, even with a hard metal point. In 1979 several were closely examined by J.R. McIver, professor of geology at the University of Wi****ersrand in Jo’burg and Andries Bischoff, geology professor at Potschefstroom University. What they found only deepened the mystery; averaging 1 to 4 inches in diameter the spheres are usually coloured steel blue with tiny flecks of white fibers embedded in them. They were found to be made of a nickel-steel alloy which does not occur naturally, and is of such a composition that excludes any meteoric origin. Quite simply they do not fit into any conventional prehistoric time-scale.

Likewise an early Paleolithic skull on display in London’s Natural History Museum would seem to defy all conventional archeology. Dated at 38,000 years old and excavated in 1921 in modern Zambia, the skull bears a perfectly round hole about a third of an inch in diameter on its left side. Opposite the hole, the cranium is shattered, and reconstruction of the fragments show that the skull was smashed from the inside out, as if from a bullet wound. Forensic experts who have examined the skull all agree that the cranial damage could only have been caused by a high speed projectile. So the fact that the skull was excavated from a depth of 60 foot, of mostly lead rock, only deepens the mystery.

Just as baffling is the case of an iron pot found in a block of coal. Thus according to an affidavit made by Frank J. Kenwood in 1912: “While I was working in the Municipal Electric Plant in Thomas, Okla, in 1912, I came upon a solid chunk of coal which was too large to use. I broke it with a sledge hammer. This iron pot fell from the center, leaving the impression or mould of the pot in the piece of coal. . .I traced the source of the coal and found that it came from the Wilburton, Oklahoma, Mines.” According to Robert O. Fay of the Oklahoma Geological Survey, the Wilburton mine coal is about 312 million years old.

In a similar vein, so to speak, we have this account first published in Brad Steigers ‘World’s Before Our Own: “In the year 1928, I, Atlas Almon Mathis, was working in coal mine No. 5., located two miles north of Heavener, Oklahoma. This was a shaft mine, and they told us it was two miles deep. The mine was so deep that they let us down into it in an elevator . . .They pumped air down to us, it was so deep.” After blasting the miners came across what appeared to be some concrete blocks, according to Mathis: “These blocks were 12-inch cubes and were so smooth and polished on the outside that all six sides could serve as mirrors. Yet they were full of gravel, because I chipped one of them with my pick, and it was plain concrete inside.”

“As I started to timber the room up,” Mathis continued, “it caved in; and I barely escaped. When I came back after the cave-in, a solid wall of these polished blocks was left exposed. About 100 to 150 yards farther down our air core, another miner struck this same wall, or one very similar.” The coal in the mine was probably carboniferous which, according standard dating methods, would mean that the wall was at least 286 million years old.

Thereafter the mining company officials pulled the men out of the mine and forbade them to speak about what they had found. In a strange twist of fate the men were then sent to the Wilburton mine mentioned previously. According to Mathis the miners there spoke of having found “a solid block of silver in the shape of a barrel . . .with the prints of the staves on it.”

As far back as the eighteen hundreds artifacts were being unearthed which defied conventional archeology. For example in 1871, William E. Dubois of the Smithsonian Institute reported finding several man-made objects whilst drilling a well in Marshall County, Illinois. Using a “common ground auger” a number of coin like objects were recovered from a depth of about 114 feet. At that depth the Illinois State Geological Survey estimates the deposits were made “sometime between 200,000 and 400,000 years ago.”

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=64

>>> The point of posting this artice???

Simply that most of the arguements against the possibility of Atlantis...is that either biblically ,man has only been on earth for 5000 years or so... or that there is no evidence pre ice-age of any real advanced civilization..

Ancient ruins and artifacts are being discovered all over the place that disprove these suppositions... I remember in religious classes as a child we were taught by the Nunns etc...that god placed these anomolies ..( lol !!! including the dinasaur bones ) around to test our faith in him ...

Every time that someone uncovers evidence of an ancient city...they immediately jump to the conclusion that this could be Atlantis... sure they could be...but at the time of Atlantis...there would also have been other nations...countries...civilizations that were equal to Atlantis...for them to trade with etc...

Note how in modern times...we.. in an altruistic sense of rightness share or impose our culture...civilization on other seemingly less advanced or advantaged peoples... eg or impose our spiritual beliefs....

I don't see how humanity would have been any different then.... or even before those times...

Cause logical reasoning will comply that if we discover prehistorical evidence of other civilizations that we could have only rumours/legends of..so to would those previous prehistorical civilizations...

We all have come to the conclusion that life etc is cyclicle...that we learn lessons from the past...

The earth is billions of years old... there are skeletons of man or prehistoric man found up to 3 million years of age..hense there is room for inumerable civilizations....

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/09/20...r.ap/index.html

Edited October 19, 2006 by crystal sage

[M.A.D CapeBretoner]

well this is one truth they can't stop from comming

[M.A.D CapeBretoner]

these pics are from the west side of the island which deals with the father.but this island is more than 3000 sqm and that queenly city in the east with her gates of gold.

what lies in the north and south.

[Bokonontheancient]

Basically to qualify an earlier statement that there's evidence of earlier civilizations...

Also...that many other fairly advanced civilizations were about in those prehistoric days...not just Atlantis.. many submerged ruins etc have been found lately that are puzzeling many....

here's the some sites on the Japanese submerged ruins...that they suspect also could have been the lost city of Mu....dated maybe over 17000 years...

http://www.lauralee.com/japan.htm

http://www.morien-institute.org/yonaguni.html

http://www.amazon.com/Underworld-Mysteriou...tion/1400049512

http://www.tylwythteg.com/articles/cuba.html

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=91...&q=atlantis

http://www.tylwythteg.com/Atlantis.html

http://www.grahamhancock.com/underworld/

Japanese Pyramids? Complete fiction.

[crystal sage]

Japanese Pyramids? Complete fiction.

It made the news in Australia......and a show or two on the discovery channel.

They are even offering package tours to see them!!!

http://www.divejapan.com/yonaguni_monument.htm

"Air on Saturday, July 8 at 2 PM ET

On the History Channel

"Japan's Mysterious Pyramids" - Ancient Marvels

If you missed it,

DVD

is available for $24.95 as well. "

http://www.robertschoch.net/Enigmatic#####...RMS######CT.htm

http://www.abc.se/~pa/uwa/submerge.htm

http://www.divejapan.com/

Nagoya University surveyed a piece of fossil found from the site and estimated it to be about 6000 years old. That means the site was already sunken 6000 years ago.

http://www.pref.okinawa.jp/summit/tokusyu/ruins1.htm

Edited October 19, 2006 by crystal sage

[Withoutnight]

I had to take off my shoes but, they let me run around and act like a jackass so it is all okay!

It felt GREAT!

[Essan]

there is no natural way that bedrock can be carved like this.

It's a map showing river, contours lines and property boundaries. The contour lines show valleys and ridges identical to valleys and ridges everywhere in the world. You should see one of the Scottish Highlands!

[M.A.D CapeBretoner]

It's a map showing river, contours lines and property boundaries. The contour lines show valleys and ridges identical to valleys and ridges everywhere in the world. You should see one of the Scottish Highlands!

what i would like is for you to explaine the shadows that lie beneth the earth in those pics,

which can clearly be seen.

[M.A.D CapeBretoner]

you see essan scotland is way over there which i consiter earth ,god our father split heaven and earth so the story is told.

[M.A.D CapeBretoner]

remember that great abiss that divides

[M.A.D CapeBretoner]

here is another pic that shows those shadows which for generations were carved in the bedrock.

[M.A.D CapeBretoner]

that pic that i showed is of a place that i found on my seach for the self in me.

that that is the mother is in the east (golden gate city).

that that is in the west is of the father and this is what i mean,

the father our god in truth has 4 liveing beasts that surrand his throne.

here is the eagle that backs the throne.

here is the bull and lione.

the face is the gaspe pennisula at the mouth of the st, lawerents.

and if you go with a striaght line from the tip of the paws of the lione to cape breton island

you will end up at this throne were from the top p.e.i looks like a boat that wieghs heavy in the water and yes that is the name that the mic-mac have given p.e.i today.

and that is how the father is in this story of atlantis.

[Pax Unum]

here is another pic that shows those shadows which for generations were carved in the bedrock.

this is clearly not a picture of the REAL land... it's some kind of survey map, that's been colorized... what are you trying to point out?

[Pax Unum]

that pic that i showed is of a place that i found on my seach for the self in me.

that that is the mother is in the east (golden gate city).

that that is in the west is of the father and this is what i mean,

the father our god in truth has 4 liveing beasts that surrand his throne.

here is the eagle that backs the throne.

here is the bull and lione.

the face is the gaspe pennisula at the mouth of the st, lawerents.

and if you go with a striaght line from the tip of the paws of the lione to cape breton island

you will end up at this throne were from the top p.e.i looks like a boat that wieghs heavy in the water and yes that is the name that the mic-mac have given p.e.i today.

and that is how the father is in this story of atlantis.

M.A.D, some people might see faces in the following pictures...

it's called Pareidolia...

LINK-> Pareidolia

Edited October 19, 2006 by Pax Unum

[crystal sage]

http://www.dirtbrothers.org/Peotone/anomaly/anom.html

sunken city????

http://www.satellitediscoveries.com/discov...ork/line_6.html

similar to those photos of the Chinese pyramids

http://www.satellitediscoveries.com/discov...riangle_19.html

The triangles of nature????

http://www.satellitediscoveries.com/discov...ngles/main.html

***************

Satellite Archeology...

http://satellitediscoveries.typepad.com/we...news/index.html

[M.A.D CapeBretoner]

this is clearly not a picture of the REAL land... it's some kind of survey map, that's been colorized... what are you trying to point out?

here is the orig.

and here is after i colorized a part that i magnafide.

by colorizing i brought the bedrock to the forfront and the shadows can be seen.

thoughs shadows is what i'm saying that which was carved by the atlanteans.

[M.A.D CapeBretoner]

crystal sage i enjoy the links thank you.

try looking on cape breton and see what you find.

[Pax Unum]

here is the orig.

<img src='http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m55/mad03/garden of eden/oucp.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

and here is after i colorized a part that i magnafide.

by colorizing i brought the bedrock to the forfront and the shadows can be seen.

thoughs shadows is what i'm saying that which was carved by the atlanteans.

I still don't see anything 'Atlantean", could you point out the carvings?

[M.A.D CapeBretoner]

pax unum take this pic there is no natrul way that granoid rock can form like this and the glaciers well they can't carve it ether, so to shine on what i said in the first place the secret to atlantis is writen in stone that of the cape breton highlands.

[Pax Unum]

crystal sage i enjoy the links thank you.

try looking on cape breton and see what you find.

yes, crystal sage, thanks for the interesting links... I don't see what they have to do with Atlantis being a real place or not though...

it seems pretty clear, the destruction of the advanced Thera/Minoan culture was the inspiration for Plato's Atlantis story... IMO