jesspy Posted July 24, 2006 #1 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Sucking sea spiders defy scientific classification Weird spider-like creatures that live at the bottom of the ocean and use a straw to suck on their prey are baffling scientists. These sea spiders, some of which are blind, have so far defied scientific classification. Marine zoologist Dr Claudia Arango of the Australian Museum in Sydney says they are arthropods, but she is unsure of their type. She presented her research on these unusual and poorly understood animals recently at the Scientific Committee on Antarctic Research (SCAR) meeting in Hobart. "They are very weird looking animals," Dr Arango said. For over 100 years, scientists have been puzzling over how exactly to classify pycnogonids - or sea spiders as they are more commonly known. They crawl along the bottom of the sea floor, sometimes more than 6,000 to 7,000 metres down. There they live in the dark and feed on slow-moving, soft-bodied sponges and sea slugs. Dr Arango says the creatures are segmented and have an exoskeleton, which makes them an arthropod - the same grouping as crustaceans, insects, centipedes and spiders. But she says they also have a very strange collection of features, including a unique feeding structure. "They have a proboscis that's like a straw that they insert into the animals and suck out the juices," Dr Arango said. She says such features make it difficult to fit them into any of the known groups of arthropods. "They look like spiders, but they are not real spiders," she said. "It's been very hard to place them in a position within the tree of life." Family tree Dr Arango has been studying the diversity and evolution of sea spiders. She has been using DNA and morphology to construct a family tree, using 60 species of sea spiders from all over the world. Some scientists believe that sea spiders make up a new very primitive group at the base of the arthropod family tree. But Dr Arango's findings so far support another theory - that they are more closely related to the arthropod group that includes spiders and scorpions. She says these are only preliminary conclusions and the jury remains out. 'Sexy and attractive' Dr Arango says the most interesting sea spiders live in Antarctica. They are more diverse, more abundant, bigger and weirder than other sea spiders. "That makes them a very sexy and attractive fauna," she said. One type of Antarctic sea spider has an extra body segment, giving them five pairs of legs instead of the usual eight pairs. Another type has extremely long legs spanning 70 centimetres. Dr Arango says the diversity and abundance of sea spiders in Antarctica means they probably play a very important role in its ecology, although this is yet to be elucidated. Her research has been accepted for publication in the journal Cladistics. link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astronema Posted July 24, 2006 #2 Share Posted July 24, 2006 i wonder what they look like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogfish Posted July 24, 2006 #3 Share Posted July 24, 2006 They are sexy and attractive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pax Unum Posted July 24, 2006 #4 Share Posted July 24, 2006 i wonder what they look like here's a site with some pictures... LINK-> Sea Spiders, the Pycnogonida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Onyx~ Posted July 24, 2006 #5 Share Posted July 24, 2006 They are sexy and attractive Hmmmmmmmmmm....something tells me that she needs to seriously rethink her priorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celumnaz Posted July 24, 2006 #6 Share Posted July 24, 2006 sounds like a sea-mosquito interesting and yuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dani10 Posted July 24, 2006 #7 Share Posted July 24, 2006 They SUCK the juices through a straw-like thingie? EWW it's like the monsters in Starship Troopers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rice Posted July 24, 2006 #8 Share Posted July 24, 2006 why does that picture look like a frog to me :\ pretty weird indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snuffypuffer Posted July 24, 2006 #9 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Sexy and attractive? What is she doing with these things? I'm pretty sure it's illegal, whatever it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldethyl Posted July 24, 2006 #10 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Funnily enough those pictures didn't turn me on one bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyWeather Posted July 24, 2006 #11 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Funnily enough those pictures didn't turn me on one bit. speak for yourself! I'm joking. the spiders looks like ordinary spiders... but transparent. and underwater. I wonder if they have gills or if they breathe at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogfish Posted July 25, 2006 #12 Share Posted July 25, 2006 Wha?! I'm just quoting the article...I really hope you are not reffering to me as "she" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaitSith Posted July 25, 2006 #13 Share Posted July 25, 2006 Wo those last few comments made me laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogfish Posted July 25, 2006 #14 Share Posted July 25, 2006 or if they breathe at all They breathe...just like crabs or maybe isopods..depending on what they are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magog Posted July 27, 2006 #15 Share Posted July 27, 2006 i wonder what they look like He he he a spider I think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlitkate Posted July 27, 2006 #16 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Those look scary. Now I'll be looking all over the ocean floor when I go in the ocean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffybunny Posted July 27, 2006 #17 Share Posted July 27, 2006 They are sexy and attractive I guess pickens are slim at the bottom of the ocean in antarctica. It sure says a lot about her fellow male scientists though. How would you like to be referred to as "a nice guy with a good personality" in comparison to a "sexy and attractive goo sucking spider at the bottom of the freezing ocean". That must be a hit to the ego... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogfish Posted July 28, 2006 #18 Share Posted July 28, 2006 (edited) I guess pickens are slim at the bottom of the ocean in antarctica. It sure says a lot about her fellow male scientists though. How would you like to be referred to as "a nice guy with a good personality" in comparison to a "sexy and attractive goo sucking spider at the bottom of the freezing ocean". That must be a hit to the ego. LOL, they must be disheartened Edited July 28, 2006 by frogfish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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