There is something about Kerala

[Golden Duck]

7 minutes ago, crystal sage said:

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I wouldn't have described Kerala "utterly lacking" in beggars.

[stereologist]

1 minute ago, crystal sage said:

Blood Falls seeps from the end of the Taylor Glacier into Lake Bonney

 

 

  I was wondering if they found any link to this and the red rain of Kerala.. some are saying the red rain was just algae.. but.... why  then would the scientists be so excited about this red rain.. and spend a decade researching it ?? http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2009/159/red-rain-organism.htm

I've seen red snow.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watermelon_snow

Is there something about red snow and rain in India contaminated by a different organism? Not really. It just tells us that organisms are really interesting.

[crystal sage]

Just now, Golden Duck said:

I wouldn't have described Kerala "utterly lacking" in beggars.

I don't know...   sadly  these days since the increased costs of living  and lack of job security , we have them in every country... 

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Currently there are 105,000 people experiencing homelessness every night in Australia, and many more living in insecure housing, one step away from being homeless. Everyone in our society is important. This includes those at risk of and experiencing homelessness ...  percentage wise per population in other countries... ??

 

[crystal sage]

33 minutes ago, stereologist said:

There are deposits of rare earth minerals in the form of grains in sedimentary deposits in Kerala. I saw dredges extracting the grains. What does that have to do with anything?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_rain_in_Kerala

If we read further down the wikipedia article we learn that the extraordinary claims in the Tech Review article did not appear int he peer reviewed article mentioned.

AS you continue through the criticisms you learn that only 2 people claim the red rain may have an extraterrestrial origin. That's right only 2. The rest of the researchers have identified the red rain down tot he species. They give reaasons for why the 2 got the identification wrong.

   there are more...  https://www.researchgate.net/publication/231861233_Bloody_rain_again_Red_rain_and_meteors_in_history_and_myth

 

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/236214160_Discovery_of_Uranium_in_Outer_Coat_of_Sri_Lankan_Red_Rain_Cells

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The microbial content of the red rain that fell over central Sri Lank in November/December 2012 shows generic similarities to that of the Kerala red rain. Light microscope examination of the Sri Lankan red rain indicates that the defining red rain cells exist in the presence of other microorganisms including diatoms. We report that  the results  of a preliminary TEM study of the red rain cells that shows them to have outer cell walls unusually rich in uranium, and a nuclear region with a strong deficit or absence of phosphorus.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/215695084_An_optical_spectroscopic_study_correlating_the_yellow_rain_and_cultured_red_rain_microbes

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The unusual auto fluorescence property of the yellow rainwater and particles found in that are strikingly similar to what we have found for the cultured red rain cells. In recent investigations we reported the unusual fluorescence behavior wavelength is changed ,, and this intrinsic property is against the Kasha’s Rule of fluorescence emission theory. It was reported that UV excitation of cultured red rain cell in the region 270-340 nm showed two broad emission peaks which are overlapped and found at 385nm and at 450nm respectively after the spectrum was de-convoluted using Gaussian de-convolution method. the 450nm peak shift to longer wavelengths  as the excitation increased beyond 370nm. The fluorescence spectra of the yellow rain also behave exactly as the fluorescent spectra of cultured red rain cells.. 

 

The appearance of colored rain on either side of the Earth on subsequent days shows that meteoric origin is the most likely explanation for the colored rains and the cells associated with these rains are possibly extraterrestrial microbes..

 

Edited May 18, 2017 by crystal sage

[stereologist]

4 hours ago, crystal sage said:

   there are more...  https://www.researchgate.net/publication/231861233_Bloody_rain_again_Red_rain_and_meteors_in_history_and_myth

 

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/236214160_Discovery_of_Uranium_in_Outer_Coat_of_Sri_Lankan_Red_Rain_Cells

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/215695084_An_optical_spectroscopic_study_correlating_the_yellow_rain_and_cultured_red_rain_microbes

 

The first link does nothing more than refer to the work of 2 researchers who are the only ones claiming that the red rain is due to an extraterrestrial origin. The article is a review article repeating the work of others.

McCafferty, Partick (2008). "Bloody rain again! Red rain and meteors in history and myth". International Journal of Astrobiology. 7: 9. Bibcode:2008IJAsB...7....9M. doi:10.1017/S1473550407003904. Retrieved 31 May 2008.

The second link involves the same researcher and only involves other people because of the TEM used to look for elemental content. It does not appear to claim an extraterrestrial origin.

The last article shows that there are others making the same weak arguments. The short article simple states that they have discovered a material that autofluoresces and do identify the material but do state that it appears to be related to these events. The fact that these events occur in selected areas such as Kerala argues strongly against an extra terrestrial origin.

What none of these articles discusses  is the well known methods used to identify the material as to earthly species. In the original ink the paper mentioned was in Arxiv, a non-peer reviewed source.

I'll bet you skipped over a lot of articles identifying the rd rains as terrestrial in origin in order to find something showing that there were others claiming extraordinary origins for an event that is not so rare.

[stereologist]

I believe that the red rain clouds require a bit of review for what I posted. In science there are articles. The best are the peer reviewed since they require a certain standard to be published. There are basic requirements such as the conclusions follow from the experiment. After that the work is discussed by other researchers. There might be other points of view. This can lead to new ideas, new experiments, even new conclusions. Being published does not mean the work is correct.

I found the idea of an ET origin as interesting. The discussions mentioned in the wiki article showed the differing viewpoints and how ideas evolved over time.

In this case we see that there was the suggestion of an extraterrestrial origin, but others have decided it is not only terrestrial, but the exact species has been identified and confirmed. We also see that the stranger claims never made it to the peer-review published articles. I noticed that subsequent articles found common traits which do have anything to do with an ET origin. To me it seems that the trait can be used to quickly identify the earthly origin of the material.

As an aside the article about more uranium is interesting to me because reindeer herds eat lichen and they absorb heavy metals which they pass onto the reindeer. The following is an example article showing that it is known that lichen do absorb heavy metals. The identified species was associated with lichens.

http://www.oalib.com/paper/2496462#.WR3MKca1uM8

[crystal sage]

The radioactive link though is quite interesting.. could explain the high source of radiation of Kerala..  http://journals.lww.com/health-physics/Abstract/2009/01000/BACKGROUND_RADIATION_AND_CANCER_INCIDENCE_IN.8.aspx 

 

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The microbial content of the red rain that fell over central Sri Lank in November/December 2012 shows generic similarities to that of the Kerala red rain. Light microscope examination of the Sri Lankan red rain indicates that the defining red rain cells exist in the presence of other microorganisms including diatoms. We report that  the results  of a preliminary TEM study of the red rain cells that shows them to have outer cell walls unusually rich in uranium, and a nuclear region with a strong deficit or absence of phosphorus.

It seems that the radioactive red rain is not confined to Kerala..   https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rain_dust 

Though Kerala seems a really cool  place to live..  https://bravenewclimate.com/2015/01/24/what-can-we-learn-from-kerala/

 

 

Other studies..   http://ijmrt.inpressco.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/IJMRT-2014-23-3-F.pdf

 

 

and it seems that their research was considered of a high enough standard to qualify for other research on some rare fluorescent fish that showed similar properties...   could this red rain cells have been food or eggs for these fish ???      https://www.researchgate.net/publication/223682529_A_novel_red_fluorescent_protein_from_the_deep_sea_luminous_fish_Malacosteus_niger

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A novel red fluorescent protein from the deep sea luminous fish Malacosteus niger

The protein exhibited a low intensity phosphorescence  after exposure to visible light . The chromophore  appeared to be covalently bound, some being extracted in acid methanol at 0degrees C  or in boiling methanol . The protein has characteristics similar to a phycobiliprotein , previously found only in blue-green and red algea. Simialar , but not identical , proteins were also isolated from two other related atomiatoid fishes, Aristostomais  and Pachystomias.

https://www.deepdyve.com/lp/springer-journals/red-bioluminescence-in-fishes-on-the-suborbital-photophores-of-8hX7opzp7z

 

 

[crystal sage]

googled radioactive rain... and found this !!!!  http://enenews.com/radioactive-rain-130-schools-korea-close-adults-precautions-rain-california-10-times-radioactivity

[stereologist]

I am curious what that has to do with the topic?

Uranium does not mean any substantial radioactivity. Uranium 238 as a half life in the billions of years. My guess is that the radioactive carbon in all liing things is giving off as much radiation or more than the uranium.

Remember that the existence of the uranium was detected by a TEM, not a geiger counter. In other words, the uranium was not found because it was radioactive. It was found because the material was bombarded by electrons and the material gave off x-rays. Some of those x-rays were consistent with uranium. I'll bet the uranium, a heavy metal, was there because of the nature of the lichens which are well known to absorb heavy metals.

This does not follow from the data presented:

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and it seems that their research was considered of a high enough standard to qualify for other research on some rare fluorescent fish that showed similar properties...   could this red rain cells have been food or eggs for these fish ???

I see zero evidence for this claim. You may be unaware of this but many materials fluoresce. You might want to learn why it is called fluorescence when the root word comes from the Latin word meaning to flow. It is illogical to connect an event involving lichens on land with a deep sea fish.

[Frank Merton]

I agree with you, but I would make a comment: that we are surrounded by sources of radiation does not me it isn't harming us.  Sugar drinks probably do more harm, though.

[crystal sage]

40 minutes ago, stereologist said:

I am curious what that has to do with the topic?

Uranium does not mean any substantial radioactivity. Uranium 238 as a half life in the billions of years. My guess is that the radioactive carbon in all liing things is giving off as much radiation or more than the uranium.

Remember that the existence of the uranium was detected by a TEM, not a geiger counter. In other words, the uranium was not found because it was radioactive. It was found because the material was bombarded by electrons and the material gave off x-rays. Some of those x-rays were consistent with uranium. I'll bet the uranium, a heavy metal, was there because of the nature of the lichens which are well known to absorb heavy metals.

This does not follow from the data presented:

I see zero evidence for this claim. You may be unaware of this but many materials fluoresce. You might want to learn why it is called fluorescence when the root word comes from the Latin word meaning to flow. It is illogical to connect an event involving lichens on land with a deep sea fish.

They suggested that the fluorescent proteins  were similar to those of those proteins found in the red rain.. or the alleged algae that they said caused the red  and yellow rains..

 

 

 

Also I red a while ago that the radioactivity of Kerala is due to the unusually high levels of  radiation emitted from the coal ash.,.  also their black sand is said to be very radioactive.. leading to many to believe the writings of ancient nuclear wars ...  https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/coal-ash-is-more-radioactive-than-nuclear-waste/   http://mayukhportfolio.co.in/mining/dryfly-ash-in-kerala.html http://en.goldminingequipments.com/flyash-brick-manufacturing-units-in-kerela-india.html

 

 

http://www.ijetae.com/files/Volume5Issue1/IJETAE_0115_84.pdf

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International Journal of Emerging Technology and Advanced Engineering Website: www.ijetae.com (ISSN 2250-2459, ISO 9001:2008 Certified Journal, Volume 5, Issue 1, January 2015)
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Assessment of Uranium Concentration in Fly Ash Collected from Different Thermal Stations in India

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/215757467_Enhancement_of_trace_uranium_in_fly_ash

http://www.angelfire.com/sc3/farooqs/notes/b8-3-4.htm

http://www.radioactivity.eu.com/site/illustration/images/Plage_Kerala.htm

http://www.radioactivity.eu.com/site/pages/Telluric_Exposure.htm

The emission of gamma rays by thorium and its descendants leads to an exposure which varies tremendously from place to place. Studies have shown that the radioactivity of the black sands of Kerala may have accelerated the DNA mutations of the local population, but have achieved nothing more than has been done over the past 60,000 years of human evolution.

 

 

[stereologist]

8 hours ago, crystal sage said:

They suggested that the fluorescent proteins  were similar to those of those proteins found in the red rain.. or the alleged algae that they said caused the red  and yellow rains..

Also I red a while ago that the radioactivity of Kerala is due to the unusually high levels of  radiation emitted from the coal ash.,.  also their black sand is said to be very radioactive.. leading to many to believe the writings of ancient nuclear wars ...  https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/coal-ash-is-more-radioactive-than-nuclear-waste/   http://mayukhportfolio.co.in/mining/dryfly-ash-in-kerala.html http://en.goldminingequipments.com/flyash-brick-manufacturing-units-in-kerela-india.html

http://www.ijetae.com/files/Volume5Issue1/IJETAE_0115_84.pdf

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/215757467_Enhancement_of_trace_uranium_in_fly_ash

http://www.angelfire.com/sc3/farooqs/notes/b8-3-4.htm

http://www.radioactivity.eu.com/site/illustration/images/Plage_Kerala.htm

http://www.radioactivity.eu.com/site/pages/Telluric_Exposure.htm

The emission of gamma rays by thorium and its descendants leads to an exposure which varies tremendously from place to place. Studies have shown that the radioactivity of the black sands of Kerala may have accelerated the DNA mutations of the local population, but have achieved nothing more than has been done over the past 60,000 years of human evolution.

 

 

It's hardly alleged. The only people that can't seem to identify the particular species are the ones that are claiming possible extraterrestrial origin. Many other researchers are able to identify the species. The other researchers are able to identify the mistakes that were made by those proposing an ET microbe.

The radioactivity of the area has a well known origin. It might also be the source of the observed uranium. From the SciAM article you provided a link to

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At issue is coal's content of uranium and thorium, both radioactive elements.

You haven't really identified the black sand you refer to. Goal panners referring to black sand are discussing hematite, an iron mineral. I believe you are referring to the rare earth minerals which are often dark colored. You say highly radioactive, but that is a subjective comment. I doubt it is high as you suggest, maybe slightly above background at best.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerala_Minerals_and_Metals

That is a link to a company collecting mainly titanium minerals. And below is another link to rare earth minerals in India

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10000872396390443437504577546772533972202

The next article shows that there is quite a bit of fly ash contributing uranium. That suggests again that the red rain has a terrestrial origin.

There is an article telling us that

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Monazite is concentrated by weathering into economically workable deposits in beach sands

That tells us that the fringe idea of an ancient nuclear war is not support by the existence of the black sands.

The articles also tell us that beach sands across the world do contain minerals that are radioactive.

The red rains of Kerala do not suggest anything other than a terrestrial source. The evidence being offered continues to confirm that and rejects an ET source. The species has been confirmed on numerous occasions. The uranium seems to confirm local conditions. The mistakes made by the ET proposers  have been identified.

[crystal sage]

The  fringe idea of nuclear war stems from several observations... this article seems to gloss over it well...   http://ancientnuclearwar.com/   and a few I hadn't heard of yet...  The green glass evidence of ancient nuclear wars... etc... http://www.s8int.com/atomic1.html

 

 

and  https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2012/07/29/archeologists-find-evidence-of-the-obliteration-of-sodom-gomorrah/

 

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/godsnewmillemnium/godsnewmillemnium10.htm

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The Petra Connection
After the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, the other cities of the plain, and the space centre, the repercussions spread far and wide.

 

The nuclear fall-out in Sumer caused many survivors to become refugees.

 

Their migrations were accompanied by a high level of culture and technology, hence explaining many of the mysterious breakthroughs c. 2000 BC which archaeologists have uncovered all over the world. We will discuss some of these migrations further in chapter 15. However, whilst some Sumerians fled thousands of miles, others preferred to stay closer to home. One such refugee was Abraham’s nephew Lot.

 

Lot and his two daughters left Zoar and settled in the mountains, for he was afraid to stay in Zoar. He and his two daughters lived in a cave.

 

One day the older daughter said to the younger:

“Our father is old, and there is no man around here to lie with us, as is the custom all over the earth. Let’s get our father to drink wine and then lie with him and preserve our family line through our father."

This incestuous tale of Lot and his daughters demonstrates the scale of the catastrophe which had befallen the region.

 

Although the Gods sometimes practiced similar acts of incest, it was not a widely accepted custom of the people at that time. It can be understood only in the aftermath of a nuclear explosion.

 

We ourselves might contemplate unthinkable acts only in the most extreme circumstances; examples of cannibalism by survivors of plane crashes in remote areas prove the point. Lot and his daughters, who witnessed the nuclear holocaust, may well have believed that they were the only survivors.

Where are the “mountains” and the “cave” where Lot lived with his daughters? As far as I am aware, no-one has attempted to locate it, perhaps because the whole tale, being connected with Sodom and Gomorrah, is regarded as a Biblical myth. However, there is a site hidden deep in the mountains of that area that fits the bill a site which I visited in 1994.

 

The mysterious lost city of Petra is located less than sixty miles directly south from the southern part of the Dead Sea where Sodom and Gomorrah are believed to have once stood. It was thus within reach of, and a safe distance from, Lot’s initial destination of Zoar, the small town which had been spared from the destruction.

 

As I studied the maps of the area, it was clear that Petra was located in a mountain range that extended all the way south from the Dead Sea almost as far as the Gulf of Aqaba, which is then surrounded by mountains on both sides. Anyone fleeing south had little choice but to seek refuge in these mountains

   add to that all the underground cities that housed thousands of people  of Turkey and probably other lands we still have to discover..  China too seems to have these underground realms that could have housed cities.. http://www.nationalgeographic.com/china-caves/  and http://www.ancient-origins.net/unexplained-phenomena-ancient-places-asia/ten-enduring-mysteries-longyou-caves-001248

 

On ‎5‎/‎19‎/‎2017 at 11:09 PM, stereologist said:

It's hardly alleged. The only people that can't seem to identify the particular species are the ones that are claiming possible extraterrestrial origin. Many other researchers are able to identify the species. The other researchers are able to identify the mistakes that were made by those proposing an ET microbe.

The radioactivity of the area has a well known origin. It might also be the source of the observed uranium. From the SciAM article you provided a link to

You haven't really identified the black sand you refer to. Goal panners referring to black sand are discussing hematite, an iron mineral. I believe you are referring to the rare earth minerals which are often dark colored. You say highly radioactive, but that is a subjective comment. I doubt it is high as you suggest, maybe slightly above background at best.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerala_Minerals_and_Metals

That is a link to a company collecting mainly titanium minerals. And below is another link to rare earth minerals in India

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10000872396390443437504577546772533972202

The next article shows that there is quite a bit of fly ash contributing uranium. That suggests again that the red rain has a terrestrial origin.

There is an article telling us that

That tells us that the fringe idea of an ancient nuclear war is not support by the existence of the black sands.

The articles also tell us that beach sands across the world do contain minerals that are radioactive.

The red rains of Kerala do not suggest anything other than a terrestrial source. The evidence being offered continues to confirm that and rejects an ET source. The species has been confirmed on numerous occasions. The uranium seems to confirm local conditions. The mistakes made by the ET proposers  have been identified.

 

[stereologist]

I'm sorry but those articles are full of lies.

1. The "seas of glass' they refer to are volcanic in origin or tektites. There are no widespread areas of dense glass other than volcanic zones. Tektites are not found at impact sites. The articles make a pathetic effort to lie about the glass.

2. The stories from the bible are not descriptions of nuclear events. They lie when they bold ENTIRE. What we do know about the bible is that the more we look the more the archaeological evidence does not match the bible.

3. The giants claims are nonsense as well. The dumbest one is the erosion mark in granite with the nut claiming someone stepped in a rock that formed far underground.

4. The geological evidence is as nonsensical as any creationist lie. It tries to pretend that events from 30Mya, 65Mya and older are somehow related to recent times.

It states " The facts and details don't lie... ". True but the author lies by misrepresenting, and outright lying.

At least the next article has the decency to refer to tektites, but does not mention fulgarites.

The Sodom and Gomorrah article is also a mess. It does not tell you that no one has any idea where those places are located. So how can anyone do any research when only the bible mentions them.

And so it goes with the rest of it. There is no evidence at all for an ancient nuclear war.

[crystal sage]

13 hours ago, stereologist said:

 

 

 

 

I'm sorry but those articles are full of lies.

1. The "seas of glass' they refer to are volcanic in origin or tektites. There are no widespread areas of dense glass other than volcanic zones. Tektites are not found at impact sites. The articles make a pathetic effort to lie about the glass.

http://thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/02files/Earth_Images_16_Desert_Glass.html

https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/jpl/pia21630/an-ancient-valley-network

 

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Dr Brandenburg also claims he came up with the hypothesis that Mars was once covered in an ocean, which Nasa recently announced. ‘This is a fine old blood feud on Mars,’ he added about NASA!

From his website here are his credentials: DR. JOHN BRANDENBURG is a plasma physicist working as a consultant at Morningstar Applied Physics LLC and as a part-time instructor of Astronomy, Physics and Mathematics at Madison College, and other learning institutions in Madison, Wisconsin.

He previously worked at Orbital Technologies on space plasma technologies, nuclear fusion, and advanced space propulsion. He is the principle inventor of the MET (Microwave Electro-Thermal) plasma thruster using water propellant for space propulsion. He has worked on: SDI, the Clementine Mission to the Moon, Rocket Plume-Regolith Interactions on the Moon and Mars, Vortex theory of Rocket engine design and the combined Sakharov-Kaluza-Klein theory of Field Unification for purposes of space propulsion and Mars science http://sciencevibe.com/2017/05/23/was-mars-like-earth-before-it-was-nuked-scientist-says-yes/

 

 

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2. The stories from the bible are not descriptions of nuclear events. They lie when they bold ENTIRE. What we do know about the bible is that the more we look the more the archaeological evidence does not match the bible.

The Supernatural Destruction of Sodom Confirmed?

Left: pottery melted from extreme heat found at Tall el-Hammam. Right: “trinite” stone recovered from ground zero of the New Mexico nuclear blast test in 1945 with similar bubbling and pock marks.

 

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3. The giants claims are nonsense as well. The dumbest one is the erosion mark in granite with the nut claiming someone stepped in a rock that formed far underground.

 

 

 

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http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/150068/Giants_of_Ancient_America_and_Mysterious_MoundsBanned_Video/

 

 

4. The geological evidence is as nonsensical as any creationist lie. It tries to pretend that events from 30Mya, 65Mya and older are somehow related to recent times.

It states " The facts and details don't lie... ". True but the author lies by misrepresenting, and outright lying.

At least the next article has the decency to refer to tektites, but does not mention fulgarites.

http://www.impact-structures.com/impact-rocks-impactites/impact-melt-page-impact-melt-rocks-impact-glasses-and-congeners/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libyan_desert_glass

 

The Sodom and Gomorrah article is also a mess. It does not tell you that no one has any idea where those places are located. So how can anyone do any research when only the bible mentions them.

And so it goes with the rest of it. There is no evidence at all for an ancient nuclear war.

http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2012/02/exraterrestrial-atomic-war-evidence-of-a-nuclear-blast-on-mars/

 

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While a violent solar storm or supernovae appear to be likely candidates, there are alternative views that have been expressed, too. For instance, Joseph P. Farrell, an alternative historian and author of the new book Saucers, Swastikas and Psyops: A History of A Breakaway Civilization: Hidden Aerospace Technologies and Psychological Operations, has put forth his own views on the subject as follows on his website:

Make no mistake, there is evidence here on Earth that natural nuclear reactors formed and operated for a period of time long ago. But these are fission reactors and fission processes would be, to my mind, next to impossible to generate this amount of energy naturally. And fusion processes of this magnitude occurring naturally on a planet… well, that too, does not to my mind compute very easily.

If Brandenburg is correct, that all this is evidence of a gigantic thermonuclear explosion on the red planet aeons ago, then my bet is that it was the product both of technology and deliberate action, in short, it was the occurrence of an act of war.

 

Edited May 26, 2017 by crystal sage

[stereologist]

8 hours ago, crystal sage said:

http://thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/02files/Earth_Images_16_Desert_Glass.html

https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/jpl/pia21630/an-ancient-valley-network

The Supernatural Destruction of Sodom Confirmed?

 

Left: pottery melted from extreme heat found at Tall el-Hammam. Right: “trinite” stone recovered from ground zero of the New Mexico nuclear blast test in 1945 with similar bubbling and pock marks.

 

http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2012/02/exraterrestrial-atomic-war-evidence-of-a-nuclear-blast-on-mars/

 

 

You added 2 links to the glass issue. The first link shows that the glass is tektites. The article lies that an aerial burst should produce trinitite. That is a lie. Plain and simple it's a lie. Then they claim that glass must recrystallize in 100,000 years or so. Is that correct?

Tektites are much older. The articles claim controvery among scientists. Not true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tektite#Age
 

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The overwhelming consensus of Earth and planetary scientists is that tektites consist of terrestrial debris that was ejected during the formation of an impact crater.

Here is a scientific American article which discusses obsidian found in Virginia. Last eruption? 48 million years ago.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/recent-east-coast-volcano/

Sodom and Gomorrah have not been found. The only mention is in the bible. That has not stopped people claiming to found the sites. Read the following link to learn of all of the places that have been suggested as the places the cities once were.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodom_and_Gomorrah

As far as giants go, there are plenty of frauds making claims about giants. There is zero evidence for them. There are no skeletons. Physics and medical studies show there is a limitation for the height of a human. A few humans reach our physical limits and they die young. There are plenty of threads here telling why giants cannot exist as claimed.

Here is a link about the goof named Jim Vieira

http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/jim-vieira-claims-my-analysis-of-giants-is-wrong-because-i-use-big-words

I had to read the link on the nuclear explosion of Mars because I've forgotten what that lie was all about.

Here is a news source used as a reference

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2011/04/01/natural-nuclear-blast-mars.html#ixzz1m1kVty8V

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About 180 million years ago, a planet-shattering yet naturally occurring nuclear reaction may have wiped out everything on Mars, sending a shockwave that turned the planet into dry sand.

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Dr. Lars Borg, a scientist at Lawrence Livermore National Lab, called Brandenburg’s conclusions unsurprising -- and part of known geological processes, not a nuclear reaction.

The author you quote is just another person trying to suck the money out of the wallets of the gullible. I'll stick to the scientists and reality.

[crystal sage]

I just heard that they were going to send a probe/ nuke ?  to the Sun!!!!   I wonder how that would work out.. any different from when they nuked  Jupiter ???  https://www.researchgate.net/publication/297814359_NASA_targets_Jupiter_moons_with_nuke-propulsion_probe

http://www.space.com/topics/nasa-juno-jupiter-mission-news

https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2008/10jun_solarprobe/

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The name of the mission is Solar Probe+ (pronounced "Solar Probe plus"). It's a heat-resistant spacecraft designed to plunge deep into the sun's atmosphere where it can sample solar wind and magnetism first hand. Launch could happen as early as 2015. By the time the mission ends 7 years later, planners believe Solar Probe+ will solve two great mysteries of astrophysics and make many new discoveries along the way.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2017-06-01/parker-solar-probe-nasas-journey-to-touch-the-sun/8572540

http://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/non-power-nuclear-applications/transport/nuclear-reactors-for-space.aspx

Here is an explanation how the nuclear powered    Galileo impact did not nuke Jupiter.. https://www.universetoday.com/15905/project-lucifer-will-cassini-turn-saturn-into-a-second-sun-part-1/

 

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On September 21, 2003 Galileo is deorbited in order to prevent eventuality of contamination of Europa. It descends into Jupiter atmosphere.

October 19, 2003 an unexplained "blotch" appears on surface of Jupiter.

The speculation is that Galileo gradually sunk into thicker layers of Jupiter body, and eventually reached level where pressure squeezed its RTG battery so much the plutonium went supercritical. The plasma bubble takes some time to expand and reach the surface, producing the spot.

Interestingly since the 'Probe' it appears that Jupiter is experiencing a Climate Change too !!!   http://www.foxnews.com/story/2008/05/28/jupiter-grows-third-red-spot.html

 

they do say that a red spot has been visible on Jupiter for 300 years but new spots appeared visible a couple of years  after the Galileo probe  'landing' 

 

 

 

 

 

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Observations of the thickness of Pluto’s atmosphere in 2002 suggested the dwarf planet was warming even as its orbit took it further from the Sun. The finding baffled astronomers at the time, and the cause has yet to be determined.

It has since been suggested that this is due to a greenhouse effect: as it gets closer to the sun Pluto may warm enough for some of the methane ice on its surface to turn into a gas. This would cause further warming, which would continue for a while even after Pluto’s orbit starts to take it away from the Sun.

https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap080523.html

They are planning to do this again..  on Mars believing it will help terraform Mars.. and get it ready for colonization... note there has been signs of global warming on Mars too..   http://www.nbcnews.com/science/space/would-elon-musks-idea-nuke-mars-work-n425001

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11642-climate-myths-mars-and-pluto-are-warming-too/

https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2003/07aug_southpole/

 

http://www.space.com/4851-curious-clouds-mars.html

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This is the first time that carbon dioxide ice clouds on Mars have been imaged and identified from above," said Franck Montmessin of the Service d?Aeronomie, University of Versailles and lead author of a paper in the Journal of Geophysical Research. "This is important because the images tell us not only about their shape, but also their size and density."

Until now, only indirect information suggested what these clouds were made of. The new observations were made by the European Space Agency's orbiting Mars Express.

 

The carbon-dioxide clouds are surprisingly high, some 50 miles (80 kilometers) and are several hundred miles wide. They're thicker than expected, according to Montmessin's team.

Another surprise: the clouds are made of particles that are larger than expected. The particles are more than a micron wide (one-thousandth of a millimeter). Normally, particles of this size would not be expected to form in the upper atmosphere or to stay aloft for very long before falling back toward the surface.

The clouds "cast quite a dense shadow and this has a noticeable effect on the local ground temperature," Montmessin said. "Temperatures in the shadow can be up to 10 degrees Celsius [50 degrees Fahrenheit] cooler than their surroundings, and this in turn modifies the local weather, particularly the winds."

http://zeenews.india.com/news/space/chinas-1st-interplanetary-probe-hits-mars-mission_753748.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_program

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Entry, descent, and crash landing[edit]

The descent module separated from the orbiter on 27 November 1971 about 4.5 hours before reaching Mars. After entering the atmosphere at approximately 6 km/s, the descent system on the module malfunctioned, possibly because the angle of entry was too steep. The descent sequence did not operate as planned and the parachute did not deploy.^[2] The descent module became the first man-made object to impact the surface of Mars. The exact crash site is unknown, but it is estimated to be at

 WikiMiniAtlas

45°S 313°W / 45°S 313°W / -45; -313Coordinates: 45°S 313°W / 45°S 313°W / -45; -313.^[1][3] Attempts to contact the probe after the crash were unsuccessful.  !!!  remember they would have been nuclear powered back then... !!!!

 

[stereologist]

The probes are unrelated to the storms. The storms are forming out of the merger of smaller storms.

The warming trend on other planets was a hot topic of 2012. People were fit to be tied that there was something going to happen in 2012.

[crystal sage]

3 hours ago, stereologist said:

The probes are unrelated to the storms. The storms are forming out of the merger of smaller storms.

The warming trend on other planets was a hot topic of 2012. People were fit to be tied that there was something going to happen in 2012.

like the pole reversals.. http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2016/03/former-nasa-scientist-reveals-dates-and-effects-of-2016-geomagnetic-earth-shift-3314394.html    

[stereologist]

2 hours ago, crystal sage said:

like the pole reversals.. http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2016/03/former-nasa-scientist-reveals-dates-and-effects-of-2016-geomagnetic-earth-shift-3314394.html    

The article begins with a false statement " It has been scientifically proven that the Earth undergoes a full geomagnetic reversal approximately every 780,000 years. "

 

[+Noteverythingisaconspiracy]

19 hours ago, crystal sage said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_program

 !!!  remember they would have been nuclear powered back then... !!!!

Nope. The Mars 2 lander was powered by batteries. https://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/nmc/spacecraftDisplay.do?id=1971-045D

So why do you claim it was nuclear powered ?

 

[stereologist]

Fringie articles in general gets things wrong. They make assumptions such as storms is the same as global warming. My recollection is that Pluto is cooling because it is moving away from the Sun. What fringies pretend is warming is just cooling producing a thicker atmosphere. Also, they forget that the warmest time on Earth is not when then most heat is applied. There is a thermal delay and long after the longest day of the year is the warmest time of the year.

[crystal sage]

On ‎6‎/‎2‎/‎2017 at 7:55 PM, stereologist said:

The article begins with a false statement " It has been scientifically proven that the Earth undergoes a full geomagnetic reversal approximately every 780,000 years. "

 

http://www.iflscience.com/environment/evidence-rapid-reversal-geomagnetic-field-41000-years-ago/

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The field geometry of reversed polarity for the geomagnetic excursion of 41,000 years ago lasted about 440 years and the field strength was only about 25% of today’s field. The actual polarity lasted only 250 years, which is remarkably short. During this 250-year period, the magnetic field was only at 5% of today’s field strength. This significantly lowered Earth’s protection against hard cosmic rays, which in turn led to an increased exposure to radiation. Evidence for this is shown by peaks of radioactive beryllium (10Be) in ice cores recovered from the Greenland ice sheet

low magnetic fields and giantism.. of the dinasaurs ???  https://www.researchgate.net/publication/242080037_THE_MYSTERY_OF_THE_DINOSAURS_THE_EARTH'S_ELECTROMAGNETIC_FIELD_MAY_EXPLAIN_THEIR_GIANTISM_AND_EXTINCTION dinosaurs. We propose that Ultra-low frequency (ULF) /ELF-EMFs produced by widespread earthquakes and volcanism caused the dinosaurs to become larger

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The sediment cores from the Black Sea not only show the geomagnetic excursion of 41,000 years ago, they also indicate several abrupt climate changes during the last ice age. These climate changes were already known from the Greenland ice cores, but now there is a high synchronisation between the data records from the Black Sea and Greenland. The sediment cores also document the largest volcanic eruption in the Northern hemisphere of the last 100,000 years: the eruption 39,400 years ago of a super volcano near Naples, Italy, known as the Campanian Ignimbrite super-eruption. About 350 cubic kilometres of rock and lava were expelled from the volcano and spread over the eastern Mediterranean and as far as central Russia. 

Interestingly, one of the Neanderthal extinction hypotheses involves climate change

   this could also explain some of  the world wide obesity epidemic.. gravitational fields.. magnetic fields..  https://www.researchgate.net/publication/254339635_THE_EARTH'S_GEOMAGNETIC_FIELDS_OR_ELECTROMAGNETIC_FIELDS_CAN_EXPLAIN_BERGMANN'S_COPE'S_AND_RENSCH'S_RULES 

[crystal sage]

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Researchers believe the inner core is slowly growing, as the outer core cools and solidifies. That should mean more frequent flips. Simulations by Gary Glatzmaier of the University of California, Santa Cruz and his colleagues, suggest that a bigger inner core would be more of an obstruction to currents in the outer core, making for a more unstable magnetic field>><<<  But in an earlier time, between 1.5 billion and 2.9 billion years ago, the magnetic field only flipped once every 5 million years.

That is much less often than in the last 150 million years, when the field has flipped every 600,000 years. In the last 10-20 million years it has sped up even more, to once every 200,000-250,000 years

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Data collected by the European Space Agency's Swarm satellite array reveals the Earth's magnetic field has recently been weakening at a rate of around five per cent per decade. The field does change all the time, but a rate of five per cent century is more normal, leading some to speculate a pole reversal may be imminent. http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20141110-earths-magnetic-field-flips-more

  It seems that the Sun is going to flip before the earth.. it may explain some of the strange effects on other surrounding planets too..  https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2013/05aug_fieldflip/    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/earths-magnetic-field-is-weakening-10-times-faster/

[crystal sage]

On ‎6‎/‎3‎/‎2017 at 7:31 AM, Noteverythingisaconspiracy said:

Nope. The Mars 2 lander was powered by batteries. https://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/nmc/spacecraftDisplay.do?id=1971-045D

So why do you claim it was nuclear powered ?

 

This is what I read...  https://www.space.com/16679-mars-rover-curiosity-nuclear-power-lifespan.html

 

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Powered by plutonium

The Curiosity rover is carrying a nuclear power source to charge its batteries and fuel its onboard systems throughout its planned two-year mission on Mars. The system uses heat from the decay of plutonium-238 to generate 110 watts of electrical power to charge the rover's batteries.

For 50 years, NASA has used these types of nuclear systems, called radioisotope thermoelectric generators (RTGs), to power unmanned probes to study planets and other objects in the outer solar system.

http://www.popsci.com.au/science/energy/plutonium238-is-produced-in-america-for-the-first-time-in-almost-30-years,413242

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Plutonium-238 is different from plutonium used in nuclear weapons and power stations, though it is still highly radioactive. As plutonium-238 decays into Uranium-234, it gives off huge amounts of heat, enough to be harnessed into electric energy in NASA's nuclear batteries, called radioisotope thermoelectric generators or RTGs. The heat has an additional benefit of keeping scientific instruments warm enough to function in the frigid void of space.

Plutonium-238 started out as a byproduct of the nuclear bomb-making process, but eventually as nuclear weapons ceased to be manufactured, the supply dried up, first in the United States, then in Russia

https://www.livescience.com/33127-plutonium-more-dangerous-uranium.html

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Furthermore, among all the bad things coming out of Fukushima, plutonium will stay in the environment the longest. One isotope of plutonium, Pu-239, has a half-life of 24,100 years; that's the time it will take for half of the stuff to radioactively decay. Radioactive contaminants are dangerous for 10 to 20 times the length of their half-lives, meaning that dangerous plutonium released to the environment today will stick around for the next half a million years

 

Edited June 15, 2017 by crystal sage