The Ancient Bimini Road is not all natural

[Kilik]

The Ancient Bimini Road is not all natural

Here is an article about how Skeptics perpetrated a hoax to claim the Bimini Road was only natural formations, deliberately ignoring evidence and being dishonest about the actual arrangement of the blocks-

http://www.mysterious-america.net/biminihoax.html

Videos-

http://www.mysterious-america.net/quicktimebiminif.html

http://www.mysterious-america.net/2003atlantissear.html

http://www.mysterious-america.net/index.html

The way the blocks are stacked on top of short pillar stones at the corners isn't really natural, and the evidence does indeed indicate it was arranged by humans thousands of years ago for either a road, a harbor, and probably as a way to stop incoming waves.

Here are some images of the J shaped road

http://www.grahamhancock.com/images/gallery/bimini/1-4.jpg

above water, nearby

http://edgarcayce.org/am/biminiexpedition.html

background info-

Since 1968, with the discovery of the so-called "Bimini Road," a heated controversy has ensued. Several skeptical geologists have, over the years, insisted that it was a natural underwater formation of stones. Located about a mile offshore of the small island of Bimini, in the Bahamas, the "Bimini Road" is a 1600 foot long formation of stone blocks. Soon after its discovery various researchers and followers of the famous "Sleeping Prophet" Edgar Cayce noted that in a 1940 reading Mr. Cayce had in fact predicted that a portion of Atlantis would be found near Bimini in 1968 and 1969.

The geologists skeptical claims soon became accepted as fact by the academic community, and initially Dr. Greg Little, the producer of this documentary, accepted those claims as fact himself. That is, until 2003 and 2004, when Greg and his wife Lora noticed when diving and photographing this formation of underwater stones that some things weren't adding up as the geologists had reported.

And so, in May 2005, Greg, Lora, their friend and colleague Doris Van Auken, all three working on behalf of the Association for Research and Enlightenment, joined up with archaeologist William Donato to try and resolve this matter once and for all. In just five full days at Bimini Road, diving and collecting samples, taking just under 1000 photographs and producing over 20 hours of video, this team of investigators had reached some startling conclusions. They had found at least eight ancient stone anchors, rectangular slabs of cut stone used for leveling large stone blocks, stones with mortise cuts on them, and many stone circles. Why and how the geologists had missed these things often became a topic of discussion among these investigators.

Dr. Little notes in his narration that despite the team's exhausting efforts and hard work to observe and document as much of the site as possible, they had probably been able to closely examine and inspect less than ten percent of the stone blocks. Skeptic Eugene Shinn had described in his writings that he had made a thorough study of the site in only two weekends, which this team viewed as not possible. Shinn's published findings in Nature and The Skeptical Inquirer were found to be riddled with many errors and blunders. He attempted to put down anyone who disagreed with him as a part of the lunatic fringe. He even wrote that "true believers say it is a prehistorical archaeological site build by extraterrestrials from the Pleiades." Though described by fellow skeptics as an eminent and highly respected geologist, Shinn turns out only to have a bachelor's degree in biology. Geologist John Gifford, of the University of Miami, had written that there was not a single example of a stone block laid on top of other stone blocks at this site, but the ARE team and Donato found that there were many! When Dr. Little initially contacted Dr. Gifford, he stated that he was "open" to new findings, but when Dr. Little informed him of their findings and offered to pay his way to the site to reinspect it for himself, despite repeated attempts, communications from Dr. Gifford ceased.

Dr. Little concludes that as the skeptics have long insisted, a hoax was indeed perpetrated at Bimini. However, instead of being wild eyed believers in unfounded absurdies, as the skeptics had claimed, it turned out to be the skeptical geologists themselves who had held the truth hostage and kept real scientific progress at bay. With emotional zeal, under the guise of science, skeptics denounced evidence on the possibility of the "Bimini Road" being anything other than a natural formation of stones. They seemed overzealous to suppress and lay to rest the questions and controversy over the site's discovery in connection with Atlantis and a psychic named Edgar Cayce.

Thus, as a result, the academic community overlooked significant and anomalous evidence, even from those with sound credentials and reputations, like marine engineer Dr. Dimitri Rebikoff, said to be a brilliant oceanographer, who had stated back in 1969 that the Bimini Road formation was identical to numerous ancient man-made harbors discovered throughout the Mediterranean. Rebikoff also disagreed with the skeptics when they claimed that there were no prop or leveling stones underneath the large stone blocks at Bimini.

The ARE team and Donato came to agree with Dr. Rebikoff's assertions. In fact, on this incredible video you will see for yourself comparisons with the anchors, stone circle formations, the stone harbor formations, and other artifacts at Bimini and Mediterranean sites like Cosa, Italy, Dor and Akko, Israel, and Samos, Greece, among many other places. In addition, you will see how remarkably the Bimini anchors compare with ancient Greek, Roman and Phoenician anchors. You will also be taken to Isla Cerritos, a small island off the coast of the Yucatan, which was a Mayan port back around 400 B.C., with remains of an enclosed man-made harbor there.

[MVxK]

This is nothing new. Graham Hancock has been gathering evidence for the last 10 years about a mass flooding around 10,000 years ago, so yeah it probably is a real road/harbour etc.

[Episteme]

The even bigger mystery is why the heck Kilik is spamming message boards with this exact same topic. Do a search for Bimini Road Kilik.

[Princess Serenity]

No offense. But of course it's not natural. I mean how can something like that be that way? Something was there before it went under water. Thanks for posting this.

[Episteme]

To be honest I thought so too until I did some more investigating. Instead of recapping I will quote a post replying to yet another thread started on this subject in another forum by Kilik.

Fraggle Rocker10-18-06, 04:33 PM

For this to have been a "road" or even man-made, they would have had to be constructed long before humans were present in the region...I am--or was--a dues-paying member of CSICOP so I'm no fan of Cayce. Still this statement is wrong. I don't know the date of the oldest authenticated archeological evidence in the precise area of Bimini, but humans had been living in the Americas for some time at the date postulated for the construction of this alleged artifact. With the falling and rising of sea level and the small search field provided by an island it's not unbelievable that they could have traveled there and evidence of it is lost or at least far under water now.

What does make this hypothesis a stretch is that humans had not been in the Americas for very long. Archeological, linguistic, and genetic evidence of a substantial population--the "critical mass" necessary to even comtemplate building a civilization much less do it--doesn't go back much beyond 15000BCE. Whether they came by foot over the traditionally presumed route across Beringia preserving of their original culture only what they could carry, or in boats full of tools and artworks along the coastline as has been recently speculated, they clearly had lost any vestige of advanced culture and technology long before their diaspora reached the Atlantic coast. This is a pretty big continent and there is not one shard of evidence anywhere of them having preserved it.

Their ancestors left central Asia thousands of years before civilizations began springing up in the old World, so they had no "racial memory" or legends of cities to work from. The Paleoindians had to invent it from scratch just like the Chinese, Indians, Mesopotamians and Egyptians did. Those other people had the advantage of tens of thousands of years of slow development from which to draw whereas the Americans had been resolute nomads just an eyeblink previously. It took them a while to build their first Olmec and Inca cities.

To suggest that there was a civilization within boating distance of the Bahamas several thousand years before evidence of it anywhere else in the hemisphere is an extraordinary claim and requires extraordinary proof. One formation which apparently has virtually all of the respected experts convinced that it's natural--plus a conspiracy theory that couldn't pass muster even during the peak woo-woo era of Flower Power--is simply not enough extraordinary proof.

A claim that the entire community of "skeptical" geologists are participants in a worldwide plot to discredit someone they don't like is beyond "extraordinary." It's presposterous. This is not the era of Galileo when people who call themselves "scientists" are motivated by religious orthodoxy and fear of being burned at the stake. The scientific method has been in use and proven to be both durable and effective for a century or two, and at least in the West what we now call liberalism has permitted even the most reviled voices to get a fair hearing and to undergo a satisfactorily dispassionate peer review. Cayce, the antievolutionists and the other fringe scientists have not been dismissed because they're disliked. They are disliked because their work has been peer-reviewed and found to be flawed, so they decided to bypass their peers and take it directly to the laymen. This is arguably the worst possible violation of the scientific method. It brands them as not merely unprofessional but downright bad.

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The photos may be just selective, in any natural phenom you will get some aspects that may appear to be man made. The claims of wooden items and mortise cuts in stone could also have natural explanations. I do however agree that further investigation would be beneficial. Such a unique geological formation merits study, and if the conclusion of a solid scientific study were that humans were there it would be a phenomenal discovery to say the least.

[crystal sage]

http://edgarcayce.org/am/androssearch.html

http://edgarcayce.org/am/biminicirclevide.html

http://www.altarcheologie.nl/

Another point is that there are reliable reports that in the 1920's a lot of stones have been dredged up for building purposes, so its present outline may not be its original one. These operations would tend to disturb existing regularities rather than create them. It could also explain the fact that both sections seem split in two: a dredging boat would position itself above the clearly visible structure, above the centre of the narrow target, and dredge along its length; see the picture for a suggested new outline.

http://www.stevequayle.com/Giants/Ancient....s.evidence.html

Preliminary analysis has revealed that the original structures, although smaller in size than the Great Pyramid of Giza, appear to have been more advanced.

Casing stones have been measured which are of the same unique angle as those at the Great Pyramid.

The ruins are megalithic and bear a remarkable resemblance to ancient sites in Egypt. So called "quarry marks" found in the Aswan quarries and also on the Great Pyramid, itself, appear to be identical matches with those found on the Bimini temple stones.

One major difference, however, between the Egyptian sites and these stones is that on The Bimini stones you find a great number of sky maps which have recorded the paths of various heavenly bodies. The major concern of the mysterious ancient civilization that produced these heavenly maps seems to have been Saturn and Jupiter - with the oldest records reflecting an emphasis in Saturn.

Some of the stones are under water and some of them are under the sand under water. They are not in their original formation.

It appears that the most important or revered numbers associated with these ruins were the numbers five and nine. These numbers were also of great significance to the ancients of Egypt and Meso-America.

Evidence indicates that a "checkerboard" calculator system was being used. Examples of this system were found on top of the Great Pyramid and were long used for numerical calculations in Meso-America. This same checkerboard pattern shows up on the lintel stones of temples built by Celts of Iberian origin. Also, according to some astronomers, this pattern served as a calendar regulator to measure the sunrise and sunset directions on solstices and equinoxes.

Other characteristics closely match features at megalithic sites in Peru, the Yucatan, Ireland and Scandinavia.

Analysis of these enigmatic ancient temples built near Bimini over 12,000 years ago has only just begun.

Although many maps of the heavenly realm adorn various walls of these mysterious Bimini temples, there is an almost complete lack of other markings. Of the limited glyphs that do exist, however, several match those found in the famous Altamira Cave in Spain (known as the Sistine Chapel of pre-history) which contains the well-known bison painting. In addition, there are exact orbital plots of the planets and what seem to have been intricate star shafts, metal-coated walls, and intermingled stones of various colors.

One of the unique features of the ancient temple ruins, built near Bimini by an unknown advanced civilization which apparently was thriving while most of the rest of the world was plodding through the Stone Ages, is that these stones may be far more likely to yield an accurate account of their true age than most of the famous megalithic sites around the world.

There are also instances in which lava has flowed in between some of the temple stones which may give scientists an approximate date when submitted to testing.

The antiquity of the stones almost leaps out at you upon first glance. There are hollows which have been left in certain broken stones which have undergone such an extensive amount of crystal growth upon their inner surfaces that they now look like the inside of a geode!

In many cases, the cement that once held the huge stones together is now completely crystallized. Some of the massive granite blocks, themselves, now exhibit significant portions, which have metamorphosed over the ages to the point where they are no longer even granite.

[Episteme]

Some interesting info in there. I had to stop reading the Steve Quayle News site after this hum dinger though:

Since 95% of those in the USA, past life regressed under hypnosis, back far enough, describe in Detail, their life or lives in Atlantis accordingly, I thought you'all might be interested. I know I was there - how about the rest of you????

Never been, myself.

I wonder if any real scientists ever plan on going back. What possibilities that site could hold... *sighs*

[contactismade]

ooooookaaaay?

[crystal sage]

Some interesting info in there. I had to stop reading the Steve Quayle News site after this hum dinger though:

Never been, myself.

I wonder if any real scientists ever plan on going back. What possibilities that site could hold... *sighs*

... If you used that same rational with ... say... the Bible... then you'd never be able to refer to it again... what would you swear your oaths on??? LOL!!! imagine...the Bible and some of it's more improbable truths...and swearing on it.... ..to tell the truth.,..the whole truth and nothing but the truth!!!!

No one has all the correct facts...truths up their sleeves... as all our knowledge ...realities..beliefs.... have been spoon fed to us by some slighly flawed knowledge bases...building blocks...come on...look at our recent history... how science and other discoveries have made a mockery out of some facts that were held as the truth beforehand... just because some of their ideas don't hold water today...it doesn't mean we need to exclude everything else they had to say...if you did that...what source ..knowledge base could you rely on now???

http://www.stevequayle.com/Giants/Ancient....s.evidence.html

[Ryo Ohki]

If thats a harbor its really weird. And it dosnt look like a road to me.

[crystal sage]

http://www.subversiveelement.com/BiminiRoad.html

http://www.edgarcayce.org/am/biminicirclevide.html

[+DieChecker]

How can there be anything written on the stones underwater? Sand moves, and the movement would have rubbed off any markings in a couple of decades, much less thousands of years. Are the stones unusually hard?

[IggyFireMist]

On 12/1/2006 at 1:10 PM, crystal sage said:

... If you used that same rational with ... say... the Bible... then you'd never be able to refer to it again... what would you swear your oaths on??? LOL!!! imagine...the Bible and some of it's more improbable truths...and swearing on it.... ..to tell the truth.,..the whole truth and nothing but the truth!!!!

No one has all the correct facts...truths up their sleeves... as all our knowledge ...realities..beliefs.... have been spoon fed to us by some slighly flawed knowledge bases...building blocks...come on...look at our recent history... how science and other discoveries have made a mockery out of some facts that were held as the truth beforehand... just because some of their ideas don't hold water today...it doesn't mean we need to exclude everything else they had to say...if you did that...what source ..knowledge base could you rely on now???

http://www.stevequayle.com/Giants/Ancient....s.evidence.html

You're not supposed to swear by anything.  THAT'S ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

2 hours ago, IggyFireMist said:

You're not supposed to swear by anything.  THAT'S ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE.

You dug this thread up to say that?

[Kismit]

Seeing as the thread is 12 years old. I'm not sure this thread needs to be remembered addressed.