The Carnivore Posted November 13, 2006 #101 Share Posted November 13, 2006 (edited) ^ What the hell does champ have to do with this!? but its pretty plausible that it mightve been bigger than a blue whale, but it isnt certain. it just mightve been a giant something Or perhaps a minnow was under their magnifying glass.™ AKA: They mistook or exaggerated it's size. I hereby copyrite the above sentance. Edited November 13, 2006 by sadistic jellyfish of doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogfish Posted November 13, 2006 #102 Share Posted November 13, 2006 SJOD Snapping Shrimp Stun Prey with Flashy Bang By John Roach for National Geographic News October 3, 2001 Among the fascinating creatures of the deep is a finger-size shrimp with an oversize claw—resembling a boxing glove—that it uses to stun its prey by snapping the claw shut. The snapping produces a sharp cracking sound. When colonies of the shrimp snap their claws, the cacophony is so intense that submarines can take advantage of it to hide from sonar. A year ago, a team of European scientists revealed that the sound is caused by the bursting of a bubble that forms when a shrimp snaps its claw shut. Now, the team reports that the bubble emits not only sound but a flash of light—indicating the extreme temperature and pressure inside the bubbles before they burst. Email to a Friend What this light part does is highlights the extreme conditions achieved at collapse, said Detlef Lohse, a physics professor at the University of Twente in the Netherlands. Lohse and his colleagues Michel Versluis, also from the University of Twente, and Barbara Schmitz of the Technical University of Munich in Germany explain the flashes of light associated with the bubble collapse in the October 4 issue of Nature. Flashy Bubbles The shrimp, Alpheus heterochaelis, is a dirty-green crustacean that prowls the shallow waters of tropical seas. It has two claws', one resembling an oversize boxing glove, which it uses to stun prey, such as small crabs, by snapping the oversize claw shut. Lohse and his colleagues reported in the September 22, 2000, issue of Science that the stunning snap comes not from the clap of the claws coming together but from a bubble generated by the claws' rapid closing motion. When the claw snaps shut, a jet of water shoots out from a socket in the claw at speeds of up to 62 miles (100 kilometers) an hour, generating a low-pressure bubble in its wake. As the pressure stabilizes, the bubble collapses with a loud bang. The whole process, which was recorded with the use of high-speed cameras and sound equipment, occurs within 300 microseconds. Now, using a device that counts photons, Lohse and his colleagues recorded a flash of light that occurs when the bubble collapses. The flashing phenomenon is thought to be similar to sonoluminescence, in which bubbles that are in a liquid driven by a strong sound field emit light. The researchers have dubbed the shrimp activity shrimpoluminescence. In sonoluminescence, the peak intensity of the emitted light is at a short wavelength. This indicates that the temperature inside the bubble is at least 10,000 degrees Kelvin (18,000 degrees Fahrenheit). Some theorize that plasma is momentarily created. ok frogfish, im actually going up to lake champlain in a few weeks. if by some chance, i catch a baby specimen of champ, will you take back everything you thought was nonsense yes Actually my posts contributes alot.. if anything to get you to see that you're not the end all and begin all to all things scientific. You'd have thought that little time out session given you would have made you realize that. Ah well.. somepeople just refuse to learn. My post wasn't to bring evidence into the whole thing, but to prove that *YOU* do not know what it could truly be, and right out dissmissing someone's elses view as a "could be" saying that it's a fact that it's not. *snorts* When you hardly know what it is yourself. I'm still waiting for evidence. Because as far as I know, I'm right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snuffypuffer Posted November 13, 2006 #103 Share Posted November 13, 2006 It was me. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capoeiranger Posted November 13, 2006 #104 Share Posted November 13, 2006 I iamgine if it's something than a regular blue whale, it's grandpa blue whale try to hum the theme of Deliverance.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecreeper Posted November 13, 2006 #105 Share Posted November 13, 2006 maybe its a larger than normal blue whale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denzanrom Posted November 13, 2006 #106 Share Posted November 13, 2006 After reading these posts..... Who the hell cares about that 'thing'?! I WANT THAT SHRIMP! 8D I'm a very disturbed person... I'm already thinking of cannons to make with that shrimp theory.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentom Posted November 13, 2006 #107 Share Posted November 13, 2006 (edited) After reading these posts..... Who the hell cares about that 'thing'?! I WANT THAT SHRIMP! 8D I'm a very disturbed person... I'm already thinking of cannons to make with that shrimp theory.... Mmmk Anyway! Now back to the topic! So I have a question! What is the percentage of the ocean depths that we have not, explored yet? Anyway my point is it could be any number of things that could have caused that Bloop. Edited November 13, 2006 by Silentom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annointer Posted November 13, 2006 #108 Share Posted November 13, 2006 So I have a question! What is the percentage of the ocean depths that we have not, explored yet? I'd say most is unexplored. I guess 99% below 1,000 feet depth is unknown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentom Posted November 13, 2006 #109 Share Posted November 13, 2006 I'd say most is unexplored. I guess 99% below 1,000 feet depth is unknown. Exactly! so it could be very possible something that we know nothing about made this loud noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lottie Posted November 13, 2006 #110 Share Posted November 13, 2006 I have had to edit various posts due to name calling. This is rude and not acceptable on UM. In future please refrain from doing such however passionately you feel about a subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urisk Posted November 13, 2006 #111 Share Posted November 13, 2006 PISTOL SHRIMP!!! Thank you, Frogfish! Nice one! Also, thanks to SJOD for the info. I knew it generated a lot of noise but 200Db!? That's bloody loud for such a small critter eh? Think that just goes to show you don't need to be big to make big noise- Just look at Bruce Dickinson, the short frontman of Iron Maiden... aka the Air Raid Siren! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogfish Posted November 14, 2006 #112 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Thank you, Frogfish! Nice one! Also, thanks to SJOD for the info. I knew it generated a lot of noise but 200Db!? That's bloody loud for such a small critter eh? They actually sell those for sal****er aquaria...I don't think I would buy one in fear of coming home to a shattered tank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Carnivore Posted November 16, 2006 #113 Share Posted November 16, 2006 maybe its a larger than normal blue whale? Or maybe it's a malfunction on thier sonar? They actually sell those for sal****er aquaria...I don't think I would buy one in fear of coming home to a shattered tank From what I've heard, mantis shrimps are worse. Especially with those little calcified clubs and/or spikes on their pedipalps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogfish Posted November 17, 2006 #114 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Yes, a mantis shrimp can kill every single living thing in your tank in a week. Those are nasty little buggers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecreeper Posted November 17, 2006 #115 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Yes, a mantis shrimp can kill every single living thing in your tank in a week. Those are nasty little buggers... what about a pistol shrimp?, with that claw of theres, maybe its a bunch of pistol shrimp that made the bloop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Onyx~ Posted November 17, 2006 #116 Share Posted November 17, 2006 what about a pistol shrimp?, with that claw of theres, maybe its a bunch of pistol shrimp that made the bloop Synchronized pistol shrimp.....be afraid, be VERY afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weisheng Posted November 17, 2006 #117 Share Posted November 17, 2006 (edited) MY GOSH Did you guys said pistol shrimp made that 'bloop'? A few of my reefing friends and i had kept pistol shrimp before intentionally or unintentionally. True, they snapping sound can be heard out of the tank every now then then, but making such a loud 'bloop'? IMPOSSIBLE. As for them breaking the glass 1.8m away? To be frank, i didn't heard of that before. Many of us keep pistol shrimp in a tank smaller then 1m in both width and lenght but still i didnt know of any incident happening. As for mantis shrimp, you have to be very careful, there are known incident of them breaking a tank with a knock. i am taking about glass of at least 10mm thickness. Anyway, mantis shrimp do make the snapping sound too. just my $0.02 Edited November 18, 2006 by weisheng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDaddy_GFS Posted November 17, 2006 #118 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Mantis shrimp have been known to crack the glass on fish tanks. They're awfully tough for their size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogfish Posted November 17, 2006 #119 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Mantis shrimp have also cracked the shells and skulls of fish and inverts in my tank too Then I had to crush it's shell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leliel_angel_of_the_night Posted December 5, 2006 #120 Share Posted December 5, 2006 ok let me clarify wat angrycrustacean was trying to explain. a low frequency sound can only be generated by a large sound producing mechanism. thats why u will nvr ever here a cricket/cicada making anything other then a high frequency noise. their size limits them to a small sound producing mechanizm therefore a high frequency can only be generated. a blue whale on the other hand is a very large creature and has the proportions to be able to have a large sound producing mechanism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonas16 Posted December 5, 2006 #121 Share Posted December 5, 2006 That's why i Never SWIM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kourui Posted December 5, 2006 #122 Share Posted December 5, 2006 hmmmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecreeper Posted December 5, 2006 #123 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Mantis shrimp have also cracked the shells and skulls of fish and inverts in my tank too Then I had to crush it's shell would a mantis shrimp kill a pistol shrimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Onyx~ Posted December 5, 2006 #124 Share Posted December 5, 2006 would a mantis shrimp kill a pistol shrimp Not if the Pistol Shrimp used it's mecha-sword as it's first attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecreeper Posted December 5, 2006 #125 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Not if the Pistol Shrimp used it's mecha-sword as it's first attack. what on earth was that silly post for, how big can pistol shrimp get, maybe a giant pistol shrimp made the "Bloop" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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