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Romania and Bulgaria celebrate EU entry


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Romanians and Bulgarians celebrated the most historic moment for their countries since they overthrew communism in 1989, marking their entry into the European Union with festivities that added doses of pride and hope to the usual New Year’s revelry.

In Bucharest, Romania’s capital, in the square where an angry crowd shouted down Nicolae Ceausescu, the communist dictator, just before his overthrow in December 1989, tens of thousands counted down the seconds to midnight. Fireworks then lit the night sky and Beethoven’s Ode to Joy played while small groups formed circles and danced the Hora, a traditional Romania folk dance.

Several people in the crowd talked of their hope for a better life within the EU. Conscious of Romania’s poor international image, many also said they believed Romania now had a chance to make a better name for itself.

“This is an opportunity to show the people of Europe what is good in Romania,” said Pamela Craciun, 23.

Marian Gheorghescu, 33, who carried his 4 year-old son, Bogdan, on his shoulders, said he believed EU membership would secure a bright future for his children. “I hope in this country he will have a life a thousand times better than mine,” he said.

Earlier in the evening, Traian Basescu, the president, and Calin Tariceanu, the prime minister, were joined by Joseph Borrell, president of the European Parliament, and Olli Rehn, the EU’s enlargement commissioner, for a ceremonial raising of the EU flag.

Mr Basescu touched on the widespread feeling among Romanians that the country was excluded from its rightful place in Europe since the Soviet Union consolidated its hold on eastern Europe following the second world war. “This represents the will of the Romanian people to come back to Europe,” he said.

In Sofia, the Bulgarian capital, an equally large crowd inundated Batenberg Square for a similar celebration featuring fireworks, rock music and flag waving.

Georgi Parnanov, Bulgaria’s president, called the night “among the most important dates in Bulgaria’s history”.

In a recorded video message, Jose Manuel Barroso, president of the European Commission, delivered a congratulatory message to the crowd in Sofia. “Welcoming two new members in the family, we know that our culture and heritage will be richer and our economy will be boosted,” he said.

This latest enlargement of the EU adds 29m, mostly poor, new citizens to the union and stretches its borders to the Black Sea. Romania and Bulgaria each has a per capita GDP equal to about one-third the EU average.

When they awake on Monday, little will have changed for the average Bulgarian or Romanian. Corruption, incompetence and a lack of infrastructure will remain as obstacles to alleviating widespread poverty, especially in the countryside. Nor will they enjoy all the rights of EU citizens. Fearing an influx of cheap labour, most EU members have restricted the ability of Romanians and Bulgarians to find legal work in their countries.

Other new tests will emerge, as well. Both countries have so far fallen behind in preparations for handling the huge increase in EU funds available to them.

Romania and Bulgaria will also be under intense scrutiny by EU officials in the coming months watching over whether Sofia and Bucharest fulfil their promises to continue key reforms. Brussels has established a much tougher monitoring system than for the eight central European countries that joined the EU in 2004.

Particular attention will be paid in both countries to the fight against corruption and the continuation of reforms in the judiciary.

Romania and Bulgaria have made significant progress in recent years in these areas, motivated largely by the desire to join the EU. However, many worry that accession will remove the pressure that led to reforms.

Said Ionel Dancu, editor of the Romanian magazine Eurolider: “Our politicians are doing their jobs only under pressure from the EU.”

With core EU countries tiring of enlargement demands, how well Romania and Bulgarian proceed with reforms could have important consequences for other countries in southeast Europe, like Croatia and Macedonia, still knocking on the EU’s door.

Not all the pressure, however, will be on the new members. Bulgarians have voiced an immediate demand for help from the EU in securing the freedom of five Bulgarian nurses who, along with a Palestinian doctor, were sentenced to death by a Libyan court last week for allegedly infecting more than 400 children with HIV.

The verdict and sentencing outraged Bulgarians, who have long called for a more active diplomatic effort from the EU on the nurses’ behalf. Last night, the vast majority of those celebrating Bulgaria’s EU entry wore red, white and green ribbon – the country’s national colours – showing their support for the five nurses.

In a recent commentary, Milena Hristova, editor of the Sofia News Agency wrote that “the trial in Libya will be Sofia’s first test for Brussels”.

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Fantastic news! More immigrants hmmmm what will they bring this time I wonder? Oh yeah, gypsies.

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Fantastic news! More immigrants hmmmm what will they bring this time I wonder? Oh yeah, gypsies.

:lol: I agree.

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Fantastic news! More immigrants hmmmm what will they bring this time I wonder? Oh yeah, gypsies.

thats a mean and unfair thing to say

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Fantastic news! More immigrants hmmmm what will they bring this time I wonder? Oh yeah, gypsies.

Stereotyping :rolleyes: .

Welcome to the European States! They have as much right as us to go and live and work where they choose.

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Stereotypes do exist, I'm afraid. Usually people find this out the hard way.

I've been to Romania and the Romanian gypsy... well, all I can say is, some naive british people are in for a big surprise.

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Fantastic news! More immigrants hmmmm what will they bring this time I wonder? Oh yeah, gypsies.

:lol: I agree.

Yeah, that kind of attitude surely helps the segregation/racism/crime. :sleepy:

It's good these old eastern-block countries enter the big family.

The pollution, trafficking and other problems migh get helped a little through common regulations and control.

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It's good these old eastern-block countries enter the big family.

The pollution, trafficking and other problems migh get helped a little through common regulations and control.

This is the thing, i know they have a right to come to Britian, but the government don't apply any regualtions to limit, or atleast they didn't. Poland was complaining at how many people they had lost, they had no economy left because all of the Pols had left and there wasn't enough people there to support itself. Roads were collapsing because of lack of maintence etc etc... I think as long it is limited to how many can come to Britian, people won't have a problem, but employees prefer people from abroad because they can get away with being paid alot less, and it is more difficult for the British to get jobs over the other Europeans.

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Yeah, that kind of attitude surely helps the segregation/racism/crime. :sleepy:

Oh yeah that old theory.. :rolleyes: I thought the liberal theory is ‘poverty creates crime’ but wait, most of these immigrants are poor, so does that mean they'll commit crime?

Immigrants committing more crime? We can't have that... better change the theory. :sleepy:

It's good these old eastern-block countries enter the big family.

Yeah right.. one big 'happy' family.. er even if that means forcing cultures with little or nothing in common to live on top of each other in cramped conditions.

Recipe for disaster rather than to be happy.

The pollution, trafficking and other problems migh get helped a little through common regulations and control.

More 'regulations' and 'control' what er should we impose this on the people? Sounds a bit fascist to me. How ironic. :lol:

Oh and I wonder what the minority cultures say about more regulations and control? They’d probably say it’s racist. :rolleyes:

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Stereotyping :rolleyes: .

Welcome to the European States! They have as much right as us to go and live and work where they choose.

Unfortunatly its true, ive lived in many european countrys and have see the immigrants that move in and normally they are not educated and favour countrys with good social welfare systems.

sad but true

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Why do you think they were celebrating when the clock turned 12? They have no economy, which means the rich countries in Eu have to foot the bill for other countries. I believe they only add an extra 1% to the Eu economy but add another 50-60 million people to the population!

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There becomes a point when I just can’t blame the sheer incompetence of the situation on the politicians alone. I just don’t understand the logic of the decisions like this, maybe there isn't any logic to it. I don't know, it’s almost like there’s a deliberate conspiracy or something to destroy the UK.

It just feels totality undemocratic. I feel the tolerance and general goodwill of the British people is really being pushed towards breaking point. <_<

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It just feels totality undemocratic. I feel the tolerance and general goodwill of the British people is really being pushed towards breaking point. <_<

Are you suggesting a rebellion/civil war ?? :w00t:

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Are you suggesting a rebellion/civil war ?? :w00t:

:lol: I don't know... wait until it really reaches Scotland. Try telling a Scot not to be patriotic or that it's racist to wear a kilt or fly the flag.

They wouldn't take this sh**..but the english have been taking it for years.

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It's about time we English (hope that doesn't affend anyone...wouldn't want that) to stand up and take a good look at what we have become.

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The way you guys go on, you'd think that we'd been banned from showing the flag, speaking our minds, that the social welfare system was being abused and that the border patrol was disbanded.

Tony and pals say that we should expect 2 to 8 people to come over, with some cake for us...and maybe to take a picture of the Queen.

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The way you guys go on, you'd think that we'd been banned from showing the flag, speaking our minds, that the social welfare system was being abused and that the border patrol was disbanded.

Tony and pals say that we should expect 2 to 8 people to come over, with some cake for us...and maybe to take a picture of the Queen.

:lol: class :tu:

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great news for all those parents on low incomes :tu:

now they can feel what its like to really be on the receiving end for a change, lets give em some competition, lets bring 30,000,000 other illiterate and backward folk here to share with em.

why should they have all the perks?

lets welcome these "europeans" with open arms :no:

and thats not all we have to look forward to albania and turkey soon too :w00t:

"a patriot should always be prepared to defend his nation against its government"

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and thats not all we have to look forward to albania and turkey soon too :w00t:

I know... oh god.

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Let all us native UK residents move to Romania or Bulgaria, buy a village and live like kings. Within 20 years horse and carts will be seen on the M1 and there will be no more welfare state for anyone to scrounge off (lazy natives included) and the romananians et al will be looking to move back. Sell them their villages back for every penny they took from the UK, then we move back....and so on. Gotta stay one step ahead.

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Unfortunatly its true, ive lived in many european countrys and have see the immigrants that move in and normally they are not educated and favour countrys with good social welfare systems.

sad but true

During 2004/2005, our former prime minister Persson talked about how "Social Tourism" would deteriorate the Swedish welfare system (which he helped build). It never happened.

Why do you think they were celebrating when the clock turned 12? They have no economy, which means the rich countries in Eu have to foot the bill for other countries. I believe they only add an extra 1% to the Eu economy but add another 50-60 million people to the population!

Even without the expansion of big family, you are going to receive thousands of immigrants anyway, so you might as well join in the wonderful world of coop-economy.

There becomes a point when I just can’t blame the sheer incompetence of the situation on the politicians alone. I just don’t understand the logic of the decisions like this, maybe there isn't any logic to it. I don't know, it’s almost like there’s a deliberate conspiracy or something to destroy the UK. It just feels totality undemocratic. I feel the tolerance and general goodwill of the British people is really being pushed towards breaking point. <_<

Undemocratic? This sounds like the entire burden is falling on the brits. You are not alone in the EU, remember...?

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During 2004/2005, our former prime minister Persson talked about how "Social Tourism" would deteriorate the Swedish welfare system (which he helped build). It never happened

At the moment im based in Finland, and they have an excellant welfare system. and now they have noticed every month more and more uneducated foreigners moving in and having foreign friends show them how the system works. ive taught english to some of these people, Russian, African, Bosnian, Turkish etc etc, and they have told me they dont need to work as they are quite happy with what they recive from the state.

i also lived in Holland, and Finland an Sweden for example will wake up in a few years just as Holland has now, and even my native country Ireland woke up to foreigners, check out the dublin law.

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During 2004/2005, our former prime minister Persson talked about how "Social Tourism" would deteriorate the Swedish welfare system (which he helped build). It never happened.

Yeah thank to Britain's welfare system! They headed over here instead. Sweden indeed.

Even without the expansion of big family, you are going to receive thousands of immigrants anyway, so you might as well join in the wonderful world of coop-economy.

There we go again. 'happy family' 'wonderful world' and magic rainbows. I love buzz words like co-op economy- utterly meaningless and implies shared benefit.

Undemocratic? This sounds like the entire burden is falling on the brits. You are not alone in the EU, remember...?

I think you'll find the majority of british people have had enough of the corrupt Europeon union. Out the the three major contributors, the UK gets the worse deal.

European Union Losing In Popularity

The EU is losing in popularity.

The annual Eurobarometer poll, issued just before Christmas, shows that on average, only 50 percent of Europeans consider EU membership "a good thing", down from 54 percent earlier in the year. The traditionally Euroskeptic British are no longer the most hostile, having been overtaken by the Austrians. Only 32 percent of Austrians, and 33 percent of Brits, say EU membership is good for their country. They are followed by Latvia (36 percent), Finland (38 percent) and Sweden and Hungary (both 39 percent).

http://www.parapundit.com/archives/003196.html

One big happy euro sterile family. :rolleyes:

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i also lived in Holland, and Finland an Sweden for example will wake up in a few years just as Holland has now, and even my native country Ireland woke up to foreigners, check out the dublin law.

Yeah Holland have well had enough. I predicted years ago Ireland would start to notice a few er changes.

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Over 80% of UK immigrants are from outside the EU, they are the migrants to really worry about. Gangs of young men from 3rd world countries.

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