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Ewww. Who would celebrate joining the EU?

and just as Le pen was defeated, so will the BNP be.

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Ewww. Who would celebrate joining the EU?

and just as Le pen was defeated, so will the BNP be.

You appear to be a bit confused there "Mars" ?

Your "Euww" comment suggests that you dislike the EU. ?

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Oh dear... the crime rate has gone up in London since Romania joined the EU and it's only been five months. How shocking and totally unpredictable.. :innocent:

Police officers have been handed a special translation guide to help them deal with Romanian crime suspects, it emerged yesterday.

The initiative has been introduced to tackle a crime-wave involving East European thieves and pickpockets who are targeting London's West End.

Since Romania joined the EU in January, thefts and handbag snatches have soared as organised crime gangs and beggars trawl the streets in the hunt for cash and valuables.

Here's one of our hardened policemen in action-

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Here's what's on the crappy translation card..

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Not that I dislike it, but The European Union reminds me of the USSR

Hah - I'm with you 100% on that one Mars. It is a VERY scary, and increasingly authoritarian (fascist even ? ) organisation. So which political parties can we turn to in order to resist it's increasing encroachment ?

and just as Le pen was defeated, so will the BNP be.

Ahh.... oooops.... sadly, it seems that it is only the so-called "far right" parties that are ANTI-EU. All of the main political parties (at least, in the UK), are PRO-EU. (mainly 'cos they all want plum jobs within the commission when they retire from politics).

So I guess that's that then: the EU takes over and Marxism-Leninism rules Europe. Great.

Police officers have been handed a special translation guide to help them deal with Romanian crime suspects, it emerged yesterday.

The initiative has been introduced to tackle a crime-wave involving East European thieves and pickpockets who are targeting London's West End.

Curious. When I was in london (over 4 years ago) there where already eastern-euopean gypsy women wandering the tube network with a little card saying "please give me money" - or words to that effect. (they couldn't speak english). So now the police have little cards as well ? Perhaps they could just swap cards ?

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Anyone seen the film Children of men? Seems to me London is becoming just like it.

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Anyone seen the film Children of men? Seems to me London is becoming just like it.

Nah, I haven't seen it but it sounds good though, judging from the IMDB review-

User Rating: 8.1/10.

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Set in 2027, when no child has been born for 18 years and science is at loss to explain the reason, African and East European societies collapse and their dwindling populations migrate to England and other wealthy nations. In a climate of nationalistic violence, a London peace activist turned bureaucrat Theo Faron, joins forces with his revolutionary ex-wife Julian in order to save mankind by protecting a woman who has mysteriously became pregnant.

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I wonder where this europhobia is coming from. It reminds of that plebiszit in france, when the people were suddenly against it for quite hilarious reasons.

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It might not be so bad. I can see the headlines now..... Bulgerian women win the gold for the EU in the weight lifting competition at 2010 olympics. JUST KIDDING. Hope it works out for you guys. All this change is happening so fast.

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It might not be so bad. I can see the headlines now..... Bulgerian women win the gold for the EU in the weight lifting competition at 2010 olympics. JUST KIDDING. Hope it works out for you guys. All this change is happening so fast.

Hee hee- not sure wether this was an accident Stardrive, but you just gave the underlying reasons for increasing levels of distrust and anger with the EU. You see, to compete in the Olympics, you have to be part of a COUNTRY. But the EU isn't a country. Or is it ?

Back in the 1970's, the British had a referrendum as to wether to join an innocious little trading agreement called "the European Common Market". It mainly dealt with agriculture, fisheries etc, but also sought to make it easier for Common Market members to trade with each other.

Since then, the EU has transformed itself into a tax-guzzling quasi-federal-state. It is positioning itself to emerge as a true Nation, with "countries" such as the UK or France being relegated to 'regional' status - a bit like States in the USA. Already, huge swathes of our legislation is now controlled by Europe, including immigration laws, and it seems that every month more power is given away. (They took over partial control of the UK's Judicial system in January of this year, and are currently trying to form an Army and a Foreign Minister, who would - in certain area's - dictate UK foreign policy.).

So why are people angry ?

Because we have NEVER been able to vote on this transformation. There has been no referenda or plebiscites on this incredible expansion. All three 'main' political parties in this country have been staunchly pro-EU on the run up to elections, so we are denied a meaningful vote even at General Elections. In the interim, the EU has had a propaganda budget (through it's various regional grant systems) to sway public opinion (using OUR money to do it).

Not so much angry as hopping mad.

Does that answer your question ? :P:D

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Some here like to forget the fact that people have always blended with each other ethnically, racially, culturally. If England wants to close its borders, I'll applaud that. Then after a few generations of isolationism, we'll might get a new weirdo island. Like Japan.

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Some here like to forget the fact that people have always blended with each other ethnically, racially, culturally. If England wants to close its borders, I'll applaud that. Then after a few generations of isolationism, we'll might get a new weirdo island. Like Japan.

I'm struggling to agree with your thoughts about "always blended in"... recent examples of Bosnia, and all those bits that used to be Yugoslavia spring to mind. Ditto Somalia, errr... for that matter... I suspect most of the civil wars across the continent of Africa... errr.. and truly inumerous terrorist insurgencies across the globe. Hmmm... Packistan/India.. (for that matter, the Partition of India), Kashmir, Bangladesh, oh gosh... the list goes on...

However, I'm not going to succumb to negativism... perhaps my awareness of world affairs is out of date. Can you give me a recent example of a sustained, stable state that has exemplified people of different ethnic, racial and cultural backgrounds "blending in" AshKatNah ? :)

As for Japan... is that the island in the Far East with the enviable economy, stable political system, high GDP, low crime rate, low military spending..errr.. is THAT the Japan to which you alude ? :P

OK - sorry - that was a cheap jibe... but nonetheless... :D

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Hee hee- not sure wether this was an accident Stardrive, but you just gave the underlying reasons for increasing levels of distrust and anger with the EU. You see, to compete in the Olympics, you have to be part of a COUNTRY. But the EU isn't a country. Or is it ?

Actually it was an inside joke between some good friends at one time. As I pondered any benefit the EU would have in absorbing Romania and Bulgaria, this is the only thing my limited knowledge on the matter could muster. So what are you saying, the homeland will no longer be concidered a country? Or will it be ruled and governed by a central government, giving the member country-states limited control of the governing process?

So why are people angry ?

Because we have NEVER been able to vote on this transformation. There has been no referenda or plebiscites on this incredible expansion. All three 'main' political parties in this country have been staunchly pro-EU on the run up to elections, so we are denied a meaningful vote even at General Elections. In the interim, the EU has had a propaganda budget (through it's various regional grant systems) to sway public opinion (using OUR money to do it).

Not so much angry as hopping mad.

Does that answer your question ? :P:D

Meow Purr.

stardrive slams on brakes, stops the presses AND holds the phone. You mean to tell me you were never given a chance to even vote on it?? Thats a bit on the rude side would'nt you say?(struggling to put it in a way that conforms to forum rules). Especially something that effects your country in the magnitude such as this. So let me get this straight, they in effect railroaded Britain into the EU by giving pro-EU only candidates to vote for in the elections, so by default your in the EU, like or not. Is this correct?

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[...] However, I'm not going to succumb to negativism... perhaps my awareness of world affairs is out of date. Can you give me a recent example of a sustained, stable state that has exemplified people of different ethnic, racial and cultural backgrounds "blending in" AshKatNah ? :)

None (maybe USA). But that wasn't my point. I'm not saying that it works, I'm just laughing at those thinking they can stop immigration. Build walls and they'll dig holes.

As for Japan... is that the island in the Far East with the enviable economy, stable political system, high GDP, low crime rate, low military spending..errr.. is THAT the Japan to which you alude ? :P

Japan might have a strong economy, but that's because they treat their workers and populace like drones. Do you know how high the demands are on first graders? How the workers are treated at Toyota? Do you know the suicide tolls among the civilian population?

The low military spending comes with the fact that NATO has bases all over the Island. You don't have to spend anything when the enemy has you surrounded. Japan is locked in a bizarre scenario which reminds me of a peaceful occupation.

As for crime, last time I've heard that the Jakuza runs more and more of the "business" in the big cities.

Off-topic, I know.

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Actually it was an inside joke between some good friends at one time. As I pondered any benefit the EU would have in absorbing Romania and Bulgaria, this is the only thing my limited knowledge on the matter could muster. So what are you saying, the homeland will no longer be concidered a country? Or will it be ruled and governed by a central government, giving the member country-states limited control of the governing process?

stardrive slams on brakes, stops the presses AND holds the phone. You mean to tell me you were never given a chance to even vote on it?? Thats a bit on the rude side would'nt you say?(struggling to put it in a way that conforms to forum rules). Especially something that effects your country in the magnitude such as this. So let me get this straight, they in effect railroaded Britain into the EU by giving pro-EU only candidates to vote for in the elections, so by default your in the EU, like or not. Is this correct?

Broadly speaking, that is correct Stardrive. There IS an anti-EU party in the UK called UKIP, but there are suspiciouns that it was set up by the 'big three' to act as a lightening rod to divert votes away from varoius genuinly anti-EU small parties, and particularly the BNP. (and it seems to have worked... UKIP gained some Local Council and European MP seats, but has now collapsed into recriminations and financial irregularities and lost most of its seats).

As an example of EU democratic systems in action: we WHERE supposed to have a refferendum on the EU Constitution about a year ago, but Tony Blair cancelled it when the French and Dutch voted it down. (presumably to save the EU further embarresment).

Interestingly enough, the EU has decided to implement this Constitution ANYWAY.... but they're going to change it's name such that it no longer requires national referrendums.

Meow Purr.

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Broadly speaking, that is correct Stardrive. There IS an anti-EU party in the UK called UKIP, but there are suspiciouns that it was set up by the 'big three' to act as a lightening rod to divert votes away from varoius genuinly anti-EU small parties, and particularly the BNP. (and it seems to have worked... UKIP gained some Local Council and European MP seats, but has now collapsed into recriminations and financial irregularities and lost most of its seats).

As an example of EU democratic systems in action: we WHERE supposed to have a refferendum on the EU Constitution about a year ago, but Tony Blair cancelled it when the French and Dutch voted it down. (presumably to save the EU further embarresment).

Interestingly enough, the EU has decided to implement this Constitution ANYWAY.... but they're going to change it's name such that it no longer requires national referrendums.

Meow Purr.

I was always of the opinion the EU would be a good thing. On the surface it looks like you've been had, without the benefit of lubrication. Putting to much power in to few hands can be dangerous. But this is all news to me, I'll have contemplate this for now.

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