Pinky Floyd Posted January 2, 2007 #76 Share Posted January 2, 2007 (edited) Yup... just that simple. Better the dog, because I will shoot tresspassers. How civilized. If there is a God, I'm sure you will be rewarded for such compassion and mercy on 'your' plot of land. “As Ye Sow, So Shall Ye Reap,” Edited January 2, 2007 by Pinky Floyd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NME_locus Posted January 2, 2007 #77 Share Posted January 2, 2007 What if they had been 10 year olds? Would you shoot them? Would they deserve to be bitten? Wow. I love dogs, but you are too much. Okay now Eric, that's not a serious question. If I have eyes and can see down the sight of a gun, I can also see whom I'm shooting, and there's a height difference in a 10 year old and a grown man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hill Posted January 2, 2007 #78 Share Posted January 2, 2007 So you welcome tresspassers? "Hello, anybody there? I was just going for a walk and now I'm lost! is anyone there...jesus what the ****... HELP!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted January 2, 2007 #79 Share Posted January 2, 2007 You sir truthat, are putting words in my mouth and taking everything everyone says out of context, so it is senseless trying to have a rational conversation with you...therefore I fear you will end up talking to youself very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truethat Posted January 2, 2007 #80 Share Posted January 2, 2007 You sir truthat, are putting words in my mouth and taking everything everyone says out of context, so it is senseless trying to have a rational conversation with you...therefore I fear you will end up talking to youself very soon. No I'm not. You jumped in. I didn't even mention you. You stated that if the child were to be "bitten" she would have "deserved it" that's what you said. The kid was 10. I find that disgusting. I also find the "protect my land" crap disgusting because as have several people pointed out if a child were to be in the wrong place at the wrong time he'd be mauled. According to the poster fine by him. Its his land. See how you don't accept the reality that most of the victims of dog attacks are children. I just don't even know what to say to you people. Its horrific. So you are right Michelle the conversation is over from my end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted January 2, 2007 #81 Share Posted January 2, 2007 For those of you that didn't notice, truthat did bring me into it, but not by name...by misquote. I any of you want the whole story of the incident I was refering to I started a thread on it. I for one, am glad that people think my dog is mean because he's a Malamute, otherwise, I would have had to resort to other ways to protect myself that wouldn't have turned out so well either for me or the guy that was snooping around the back of my house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander CMG Posted January 2, 2007 Author #82 Share Posted January 2, 2007 I love dogs in fact I have a large black German Shepherd and the thought of him biting a child let alone mauling a child to death would devastate me, in fact if it ever bit anyone I would have him put down, however he is a family dog and harmless, a real big softy and great with my kids and anyone else's. I find it disturbing that members here feel it is OK for their Dogs to bite anyone that enters their land... if my kids was bitten by a dog because he was retreiving his ball from the garden or trying to knock on the door to ask for permission to retrieve his ball, the dog would not bite anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted January 2, 2007 #83 Share Posted January 2, 2007 100% agree, XSAS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NME_locus Posted January 2, 2007 #84 Share Posted January 2, 2007 "Hello, anybody there? I was just going for a walk and now I'm lost! is anyone there...jesus what the ****... HELP!" That was sarcasm my dear Einstein. Maybe where you live, it's like Mr. Roger neighborhood, but you also don't live where I do. Last time I checked, tresspassing was a bad thing. Its like you guys don't even have a clue what you sound like. So say someone gets lost and they want to knock on your door? Or a sales person? Ok by you. Another thread a person once wrote that this ten year old girl was sticking her fingers in her dogs ear and that if he had attacked her she would have deserved it. You think nothing of leaving your pit bulls with your 6 year old child. Neither did the guy in the original story and now she's dead after having had her throat ripped out by a dog. I just can't comprehend what it will take for you guys to realize that your dogs are DOGS they are not people. They are unpredictable animals. I know dogs are not people. I'm pretty sure if someone knocks on my door, they would be fine. Sales person, would be okay too. If you are smart enough to realize what you stated about dogs being unpredictable then you should think deeper. Dogs can not comprehend the different levels of threats. That would be asking even more from a dog. As a dog owner, they are to remain restrained. Also, if you know dog's are unpredictable, then don't put yourself in that situation. Oh I'm sorry. Bitten. You'd think it was ok for a child to be BITTEN by a dog for pestering it. He thinks it would be ok for a person to get"warning bites" that required emergency room treatment for being on his property. So people always DESERVE to be attacked by a dog. This kind of thinking is so typical of dog owners and its disgusting. But of course none of you have the slightest idea what I am talking about. I don't think you have any idea to what you are talking about. I don't think you ever owned a PB anyways. Sounds like you go on "he said she said". And before you go one about how I think..... Every tresspasser bit was in the back yard, and was chased to the edge of my property. My dog stopped, tresspasser kept running. What's wrong with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truethat Posted January 2, 2007 #85 Share Posted January 2, 2007 Holy Crap Michelle I wasn't referring to your post about the DOG grabbing the little girl by her head. I just read it. Your dog grabbed a child by her head because she was poking all over him and you say its justified. A kid? You didn't think to put the dog away before it attacked her (oh I'm sorry we're not supposed to use that word, too realistic for you) This is the second time I have seen you justify your dog attacking a child. I was referring to another time you justified it. That's just horrific. I don't see how you are agreeing with XSAS when your posts say otherwise. Good for you XSAS for realizing that a dog is not worth more than a human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truethat Posted January 2, 2007 #86 Share Posted January 2, 2007 That was sarcasm my dear Einstein. Maybe where you live, it's like Mr. Roger neighborhood, but you also don't live where I do. Last time I checked, tresspassing was a bad thing. I know dogs are not people. I'm pretty sure if someone knocks on my door, they would be fine. Sales person, would be okay too. If you are smart enough to realize what you stated about dogs being unpredictable then you should think deeper. Dogs can not comprehend the different levels of threats. That would be asking even more from a dog. As a dog owner, they are to remain restrained. Also, if you know dog's are unpredictable, then don't put yourself in that situation. I don't think you have any idea to what you are talking about. I don't think you ever owned a PB anyways. Sounds like you go on "he said she said". And before you go one about how I think..... Every tresspasser bit was in the back yard, and was chased to the edge of my property. My dog stopped, tresspasser kept running. What's wrong with that? Dogs should not be trained to attack. If that's why you have a dog there is something wrong with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hill Posted January 2, 2007 #87 Share Posted January 2, 2007 News update- apparently the dog was a banned breed. The police said it was a pitbull type breed. Looks like american pitbull.. does this make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hill Posted January 2, 2007 #88 Share Posted January 2, 2007 I'm pretty sure if someone knocks on my door, they would be fine. Sales person, would be okay too. If you are smart enough to realize what you stated about dogs being unpredictable then you should think deeper. Pretty sure they'd be ok? Great... and if not.. nevermind they don't press charges anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted January 2, 2007 #89 Share Posted January 2, 2007 (edited) Jesus Christ, truthat...my dog did not touch that child, just scared the living daylights out of her! That is exactly my point, how you twist everything around to suite your arguement regardless of the facts! edit: By the way, there was only one incident, refered to twice and I was about ready to throw that kid off my property for getting into everything she was told not to. Edited January 2, 2007 by Michelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NME_locus Posted January 2, 2007 #90 Share Posted January 2, 2007 I love dogs in fact I have a large black German Shepherd and the thought of him biting a child let alone mauling a child to death would devastate me, in fact if it ever bit anyone I would have him put down, however he is a family dog and harmless, a real big softy and great with my kids and anyone else's. I find it disturbing that members here feel it is OK for their Dogs to bite anyone that enters their land... if my kids was bitten by a dog because he was retreiving his ball from the garden or trying to knock on the door to ask for permission to retrieve his ball, the dog would not bite anyone else. I agree XSAS.. but you can't want a dog to be harmless, and then save your life if you're being assaulted. Right? By common sense, I would think that your children would know to knock on the door before hopping over a fence even though their gate is locked. ...however he is a family dog and harmless, a real big softy and great with my kids and anyone else's. That's no different than my dog then. What makes your dog different? My dog's have been raised around kids. Actually, all of the neighbor's kids play with him, and he acts way more gentle around kids. Around me, he plays rough, but around the kids, he gets low to the ground when approaching them. Actually I'm surprised to see how gentle he is with kids when he plays so rough with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander CMG Posted January 2, 2007 Author #91 Share Posted January 2, 2007 (edited) A friend in the next village has 3 Rottweilars (probably spelt wrong) and they are the softest dogs ever her smallest child is 8 years old and has grown up with them and plays with them the same way she does with her friends she even dresses them up. NME_LOCUS.... I understand the need for security, my dog alerts me to anyone that comes near our property's he also scares them with his barking purely because they know he is a big dog. truethat... no my dog is not worth more than a human but he is part of my family. Edited January 2, 2007 by XSAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NME_locus Posted January 2, 2007 #92 Share Posted January 2, 2007 Dogs should not be trained to attack. If that's why you have a dog there is something wrong with you. Okay... here we go again... Since I do own PB's, I already know what they are capable of. ALL dogs have the same mentality except a PB can really hurt someone. Regardless, a dog will always have a protective mentality. In the process of attack training, you familiarize your dog to attack, heel, down. This is just in case if something does ever happen, then I can at least command him to heel, since he has been trained. I beleive that it would be worse if a dog attacked, and did not recognize how to stop. I believe that this step is what prevents my dog from "Mauling" people. Make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truethat Posted January 2, 2007 #93 Share Posted January 2, 2007 This is what YOU WROTE Michelle he let out a snarl like I had never heard from him the in five years that I've had him and his mouth was completely covering her face from her scalp to below her chin. It happened in a split second and he jumped away from her the moment she let go of him. She didn't have the tiniest of marks on her, no skin broken, nothing....*phew* The thing that makes me so furious, is that because his breed is considered on of the top ten most dangerous dogs, if he had actually hurt her and she had to go to the emergency room, there would have been a police report. This brat could have caused my dog to be put down because HER parents haven't taught her to mind!!! Needless to say, these two children will never be allowed to visit again, and frankly, I could care less if it offends anyone!!! angry.gif http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...mp;#entry922130 You stated your dog Grabbed her head and now I am putting words in your mouth? I didn't even know about this until you mentioned the thread. Nice and simple When your dog attacks a CHILD its wrong. No matter what. If you don't teach your dog this, eventually he will attack one. He already has twice. If he had ripped back he could have ripped her face off and the dog would not be wrong YOU WOULD. You have no business exposing your dog to children. Don't invite children to your home or put the dog in the basement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted January 2, 2007 #94 Share Posted January 2, 2007 (edited) Let me clarify...he opened his mouth widely, an inch or so away from her face, NOT TOUCHING HER OR LEAVING A MARK...does that sink in now? True to form you added the word "grab". Edited January 2, 2007 by Michelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted January 2, 2007 #95 Share Posted January 2, 2007 I've already told you that my dog did not attack a child even once much less twice. I'll say this again...*sigh* this ONE incident I refered to twice THERE WERE NOT TWO INCIDENTS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truethat Posted January 2, 2007 #96 Share Posted January 2, 2007 Ok I see I did misunderstand. Your mindset however is still the same. You state had he attacked her it would have been her own fault. No it wouldn't. Dogs are unpredictable. When a dog owner goes on about how wonderful their dog is they are setting a false sense of security up for the people around them. Do you tell people "please step back my dog has attacked several people?" no I bet not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander CMG Posted January 2, 2007 Author #97 Share Posted January 2, 2007 I actually tell people that my dog is harmless and not to worry about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skeptic Eric Raven Posted January 2, 2007 #98 Share Posted January 2, 2007 (edited) I have the sweetest Malamute(and he has never been agressive with anything but other dogs), but I would not allow children in my backyard with him. I am not comfortable with anyones children other than my own around my dog. I just would not take the risk. Edited January 2, 2007 by ericraven2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted January 2, 2007 #99 Share Posted January 2, 2007 No, I don't tell people that because he hasn't. I did, although, tell that child and her parents, at least twenty times, to leave him alone, so in my eyes the parents would have been totally responsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NME_locus Posted January 2, 2007 #100 Share Posted January 2, 2007 News update- apparently the dog was a banned breed. The police said it was a pitbull type breed. Looks like american pitbull.. does this make sense? Yes, they are a banned breed in many states. But it's very interesting to me how everyone says Pitt Bulls are the only that attack people. When someone refers to a Bull Terrier, they refer to American Bulldog, Boston Terrier, Boxer, English Bulldog, Olde English Bulldogge, French Bulldog, Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog, Valley Bulldog, American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, Bull Terrier, Bull Mastiff, and the Banter Bulldogge. So, you can't blame just Pitt Bulls. That's why they have such a bad rep, simply through mis-identification. That's like saying, "a long haired poodle will bite, but a short haired poodle won't". I know it sound stupid, but think about it..... that's what people assume about pit bulls. The Centers for Disease Control studies dog bite incidents, including the types of dogs most likely to bite. The breeds that the CDC considers highest risk include: - Rottweilers - German Shepherds - Huskies - Pit Bull - Alaskan Malamutes - Doberman pinschers - Chows - Great Danes - Saint Bernards - Akitas So why do people "profile" PB's, and everything about dog attacks are regarding pitbulls. It's the media too.... I'm sure a poodle attack won't make top story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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