Yoga in Schools Denounced as Anti-Christian

[Jodie.Lynne]

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha....

i jsut remebered this...the salutation namaste means "the divine in me honors the divine in you....".

Hmmmm I think I have a new pick up line:

Want a little divine in you?

Edited January 11, 2007 by JMPD1

[SilverCougar]

The Yoga Sutras offer a philosophy which includes the Yamas and Niyamas - suggestions for living. These suggestions encourage honesty, purity, devotion, chastity, non-violence and non-stealing.

You know.. this reminds me of this one news bit that I heard.. how this teacher threatened to tie kids up if they misbehave while on a feild trip. (obvious this teacher deals with misbehaviour) Well this one kid acted up and the teacher made good his threat. Now the child is to afraid to misbehave in that teacher's class. AND THE PARENT IS UPSET!!!

Dear *GODS* why is it that parents are so fricken upset when their children are being taught that behaving is good? Hells if someone wanted to teach something in school that encourages honesty, purity, devotion and all that good stuff, I'd make sure my kid was first in line.

If a teacher tied my kid up because they misbehaved and now my kid was to scared to act out in school.. I'd take that teacher out for a steak dinner. I mean heavens forbid we disipline our kids to be good students so they *CAN* learn something while in school and be a better person at life... >.>

[+Sherapy]

There are reasons I'm not having kids.

But really... half the things are taught the way they are in school because parents get all up in arms about things and in turn the b**** to the schools and the schools have no choice but to cave and water everything down to the point us who actually *WANT* our kids to learn something look at it and want to cry.

Hells how do you think ID got it's foot in the door of public schools. (Oh the hypocrisy!)

Books get banned because parents don't want their kids reading them.

Curriculum gets dumb down or banned all together because parents don't want their kids to learn them...

And now EXCERSIZING is being attacked because parents are ignorant and spew the most idiotic of reasons against it...

Just.. jumping Socrates on

and the teachers say its the goverment, girl i jsut kow its a bad scence, in my state the schools are so violent and although they have the ability to solve conflict with peace the teachers are instructered to use race and threats and punishments for control, as mandated by the goverment...

i stay out of the whole mess..not to inany way infer that ther are parents too who cause alot of havoc, the homework problem nation wide is becaseu of parents...

I'll telll you this as a parent you virtually have no power in my state... , my son in kinder wanted me to walk hi in each day, I was approcaed constantnly and told I was a bad influence onthe other parents.... blah bah, i told them it wasn't their decison whether i walked my son in or not it was my sons what did we need to do to make it happen......

also at my sons school they knowingly employeed a pedophile and didn't inform the parents , we found out on the news...upon his arrest...he had been fired from all other schools the principle at our school beleived he was "framed"

yes you are correct in being concerned about the system....

Edited January 11, 2007 by Supra Sheri

[GoddessWhispers]

Wasn't there , or won't there soon be, some riff about meditation in schools!? Saying that was violating the no prayer statute in the public school system? What is meditation to one , can be conscrewed as prayer by another.

And I disagree. Ignorance is not bliss. That's just something stupid people like to exploit to make them feel better about their obvious condition.

You know, there's gotta be something Zen behind all this. I mean, what's all this teaching the secular public about themselves as the role models for the children that are our future!? Considering that bit is yelled to the heavens for all sorts of liberal and conservative lynch pins generally. "The children are our future!" "Think of the children!" As they seek to constrain another aspect of adult society, showing the kids the contemporary environment is prohibitive so they better get use to that in their future. Yep, there's big lessons being taught in this one, people!

Religionists get upset because god is prohibited to be preached in school. As if the religious in school are missing something if policy doesn't let him in. And secularists think anything spiritual or addressing a different level of consciousness (meditation, yoga) is suspect, because a communist socialist model makes those futures in those buildings forget about anything but progressing the self so as to be the machine of tomorrow. Hey kids! Learn how to program a computer before you graduate 3rd grade, but realize you are a perfect biological sentient "computer" in your own right, and that's just the wrong thing to be teaching in that kind of educational atmosphere!

Sentence your child to an obfuscation, rinse and repeat: "I am the box, the box is me. This is my purpose. To serve the box. Besieged on all sides, by those that would like to question the box viability. Which, of course, can not be allowed. "

Ain't evolution wonderful!? We left the tree's and entered the cage.

Edited January 11, 2007 by GoddessWhispers

[SilverCougar]

And I disagree. Ignorance is not bliss. That's just something stupid people like to exploit to make them feel better about their obvious condition

Sarcasm is lost on you, innit?

[+Sherapy]

Hmmmm I think I have a new pick up line:

Want a little divine in you?

joey aren't you clever

I'm gonna share this one with my hubby he will love it and I will hear it alot lol....as we all know how a boy defines divine lol......i hope this doesn't get 'us' in trouble as this was all his........ points to. (inserts arrow)....... joey's idea....

[+Sherapy]

Sarcasm is lost on you, innit?

edit.....

Edited January 11, 2007 by Supra Sheri

[SilverCougar]

Hmmmm I think I have a new pick up line:

Want a little divine in you?

I kinda like.. "Want to help me make downward facing dog into downward facing cat?

*is soooo going to get swatted for that*

[+Sherapy]

I kinda like.. "Want to help me make downward facing dog into downward facing cat?

*is soooo going to get swatted for that*

psst....plead the fifth kitty or blame joey.....lol

[SilverCougar]

plead the fith for what? X) I made that comment, not JM!

[GoddessWhispers]

Sarcasm is lost on you, innit?

I find I give as good as I get.

[+Sherapy]

just alittle humour.....

Okay...i won't quit my day job.......

[SilverCougar]

I find I give as good as I get.

Ignorance is about as bliss as having a needle IN YOUR EYE!

[Michelle]

WOW, the fangs and claws are showing...

[SilverCougar]

just alittle humour.....

Okay...i won't quit my day job.......

Don't cry hon X) *pat* They need to invent emotional tones for the webs.

[Jodie.Lynne]

Ladies, ladies, I think we all need a grope, errr, group hug.

I'll be in the middle

[+Sherapy]

Ladies, ladies, I think we all need a grope, errr, group hug.

I'll be in the middle

lol....... that is actually a great idea SC..... we could push buttons red for mad as hell and not gonna take it anymore, yellow for call joey for sandwich 'er i mean hug.............

[rev r]

Ladies, ladies, I think we all need a grope, errr, group hug.

I'll be in the middle

I gots the camera...

So anyway, I've been mulling this over in between chuckles and flashes of pain (been combating a toothache). I think where the proponents of this program went wrong is they left the name Yoga attached. Had they called it "dynamic stretching" or some such it would have breezed right through. No they left it Yoga and thereby inspired the "OMGWTFBBQ are they really introducing a competing spiritual tradition into our schools. Next thing you know they'll be shaving our kids' heads and making them pray to that fat guy from the Chineese restaurant!! We must stop this transgression upon our children's souls!" reaction. Obviously we need to be handing out more Abby Hoffman and Sun Tzu (possibly my own forthcoming book, Zen Terrorism for Fun and Profit) to these folks because they obviously have forgotten what subversive means.

I often hear complaints of certain types of people taking action to halt some type of program or ban X book. What always gets me though is, where is the opposition? Where are the people who actively fight this kind of thinking?

We can say all we like about these people's motivations and have all sorts of criticism for what they beleive in, but the fact remains that at least they are involved. Maybe those who are possessed of broader minds should take a lesson from them.

Want a little divine in you?

Used it, doesn't work extremely well. Generally you have to part a sea or raize a few cities for that line to have any effect.

Edited January 11, 2007 by rev r

[+Sherapy]

I gots the camera...

So anyway, I've been mulling this over in between chuckles and flashes of pain (been combating a toothache). I think where the proponents of this program went wrong is they left the name Yoga attached. Had they called it "dynamic stretching" or some such it would have breezed right through. No they left it Yoga and thereby inspired the "OMGWTFBBQ are they really introducing a competing spiritual tradition into our schools. Next thing you know they'll be shaving our kids' heads and making them pray to that fat guy from the Chineese restaurant!! We must stop this transgression upon our children's souls!" reaction. Obviously we need to be handing out more Abby Hoffman and Sun Tzu (possibly my own forthcoming book, Zen Terrorism for Fun and Profit) to these folks because they obviously have forgotten what subversive means.

I often hear complaints of certain types of people taking action to halt some type of program or ban X book. What always gets me though is, where is the opposition? Where are the people who actively fight this kind of thinking?

We can say all we like about these people's motivations and have all sorts of criticism for what they beleive in, but the fact remains that at least they are involved. Maybe those who are possessed of broader minds should take a lesson from them.

rev tooth ache ouch, i'm hurtin for ya....

call the denist and get the vic's (vicodans)

feel better ....

maybe joey has a hammer and pliers ... okay my son even said its not funny.....*walks away in shame*

Edited January 11, 2007 by Supra Sheri

[Irish]

[GoddessWhispers]

True enough. And as you said, it's all a matter of perception as far as the bias applied to what they perceive is embodied by the word: Yoga. Change the words and there's a chance it'll escape notice. Just look at the creationists tactic in that regard, when they tried to bypass the prohibitions against teaching "Creationism" in schools, by orchestrating the new theory of "Intelligent Design", to slip past the censors.

What I don't understand is, it's a learning environment where all these skirmishes are being fought. As if it's not permissible to learn something because there's something wrong with what it might impart to the student(s). Why not have elective courses across the board!? "Comparative cosmologies" classes, for example. Throw it all in there. Creationism, ID, evolution, etc... If students want to attend, they sign up. Same for the "Dynamic stretching" courses, or transcendental meditation (which received a lot of flack at one time, when that was offered in a school program) etc... What better time to have kids all together so they can have resources to learn more about themselves, in one environment geared for just that!? Bolstering their intellect so they're viable thinking people after they are no longer the children of our future, but instead are proactive intelligent adults when they get there!? Thanks to giving them credit they're really smarter than our worst fears, already!?

[Jodie.Lynne]

I gots the camera...

So anyway, I've been mulling this over in between chuckles and flashes of pain (been combating a toothache). I think where the proponents of this program went wrong is they left the name Yoga attached. Had they called it "dynamic stretching" or some such it would have breezed right through. No they left it Yoga and thereby inspired the "OMGWTFBBQ are they really introducing a competing spiritual tradition into our schools. Next thing you know they'll be shaving our kids' heads and making them pray to that fat guy from the Chineese restaurant!! We must stop this transgression upon our children's souls!" reaction. Obviously we need to be handing out more Abby Hoffman and Sun Tzu (possibly my own forthcoming book, Zen Terrorism for Fun and Profit) to these folks because they obviously have forgotten what subversive means.

I often hear complaints of certain types of people taking action to halt some type of program or ban X book. What always gets me though is, where is the opposition? Where are the people who actively fight this kind of thinking?

We can say all we like about these people's motivations and have all sorts of criticism for what they beleive in, but the fact remains that at least they are involved. Maybe those who are possessed of broader minds should take a lesson from them.

Used it, doesn't work extremely well. Generally you have to part a sea or raize a few cities for that line to have any effect.

Well Rev, when the opposition states things along the lines of "Only preeverts, and homos want this hyar book in our'n schools......" It does make it a little ticklish to stand up for whats right. In my lil hick town, where the necks are red and the teeth are green..... there have been some books banned from the school. However, when they threatened to ban Harry Potter from the LOCAL library, I had a truck load of SCA re-enactors come to town to help.

Oh, and the "divine" line? LOL it helps if your last name really is "Devine"..........

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[Jodie.Lynne]

True enough. And as you said, it's all a matter of perception as far as the bias applied to what they perceive is embodied by the word: Yoga. Change the words and there's a chance it'll escape notice. Just look at the creationists tactic in that regard, when they tried to bypass the prohibitions against teaching "Creationism" in schools, by orchestrating the new theory of "Intelligent Design", to slip past the censors.

What I don't understand is, it's a learning environment where all these skirmishes are being fought. As if it's not permissible to learn something because there's something wrong with what it might impart to the student(s). Why not have elective courses across the board!? "Comparative cosmologies" classes, for example. Throw it all in there. Creationism, ID, evolution, etc... If students want to attend, they sign up. Same for the "Dynamic stretching" courses, or transcendental meditation (which received a lot of flack at one time, when that was offered in a school program) etc... What better time to have kids all together so they can have resources to learn more about themselves, in one environment geared for just that!? Bolstering their intellect so they're viable thinking people after they are no longer the children of our future, but instead are proactive intelligent adults when they get there!? Thanks to giving them credit they're really smarter than our worst fears, already!?

Ever see the "South Park" episode where they decided to teach "sexual education" to the 4th graders?

Its amusing that the same lardbutts who are so up in arms over 'subversive' teachings, cannot exercise the same vigor when their overweight, ill educated lil darlings are vegetating on the living room couch. They abrogate responsibility to the schools, then become enraged to the point of raising their overfed carcasses off the food trough long enough to ensure that they and their spawn will remain comfortably in the dark ages.

Edited January 11, 2007 by JMPD1

[SilverCougar]

Little late there, Irish. Rev got us back on track. HA!

Honestly, I don't see why they need to change the name. I mean it obviously didn't work when they changed Creationalism to "ID". ;P However it's the reverse really... Yoga will help children learn better... ID well.. heh.. nothing thread.

Anyways... People need to research before they jump to these hystericies...

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Wow, I never thought they would stoop this low.

The ignorance of some Christians never ceases to amaze me...