thunkerdrone Posted July 25, 2009 Author #301 Share Posted July 25, 2009 (edited) video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5dmJC4-88o quote: A look into the freemason influence upon the hip hop and music society, video: Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5-t6gc6Ivc Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ-EI-PNftw...feature=related Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ-EI-PNftw...feature=related quote: This video examines the various agendas that are CURRENTLY being pushed through Hip Hop and the direction they are moving us in. Edited July 25, 2009 by thunkerdrone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunkerdrone Posted July 27, 2009 Author #302 Share Posted July 27, 2009 OSS/CIA officer Miles Copeland Jr. "Copeland maintained that CIA assertions to the Church Committee that MK-ULTRA had poor results were a smokescreen, and that the Senate only got "the barest glimpse" of the scope of the project." Miles Copeland's son, Stewart Copeland, drummer for the Police Sumner Murray Rothstein (aka Sumner Redstone) worked with Miles Copeland (the father of the drummer for the Police) in the OSS (forerunner to the CIA) . Sting's father was Ernest Sumner Quote: Sumner Murray Redstone (born Sumner Murray Rothstein; May 27, 1923) is majority owner and Chairman of the Board of the National Amusements theater chain. Through National Amusements, Sumner Redstone and his family are majority owners of CBS Corporation, Viacom, and MTV Networks, BET, and movie production and distribution Paramount Pictures and DreamWorks movie studios, and are equal partners in MovieTickets.com. Quote: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Sumner_Redstone"Mr. Redstone served in the Military Intelligence Division during World War II. While a student at Harvard, he was selected by Japanese history professor Edwin Reischauer (later Ambassador to Japan) to join a special intelligence group whose mission was to break Japan's high-level military and diplomatic codes. In connection with these activities, Mr. Redstone received, among other honors, two commendations from the Military Intelligence Division in recognition of his service, contribution and devotion to duty. He is also a recipient of the Army Commendation Award. Police Album with pyramid/triangle Quote: Miles Copeland, Jr. (July 16, 1916 – January 14, 1991) was an American musician, businessman, and CIA officer who was closely involved in major foreign-policy operations from the 1950s to the 1980s. He was married to archaeologist Lorraine Copeland and was the father of record producer Miles Copeland III, booking agent Ian Copeland, writer/film producer Lorraine (Lennie) Copeland and Stewart Copeland, best known as the drummer for The Police.Career Copeland was born in Birmingham, Alabama, the son of a doctor. He did not graduate from college and became a trumpet player with bandleaders such as Erskine Hawkins, Charlie Barnet, Ray Noble, and Glenn Miller. OSS founding At the outbreak of World War II, Copeland contacted Rep. John Sparkman of Alabama, who got him a job with Army Intelligence. Showing promise, he was one of the founding members of the OSS under William "Wild Bill" Donovan, serving in London, where he became a lifelong Anglophile and married Lorraine Adie, a Scot then serving in the Special Operations Executive. [1] He remained with the office as it was transformed into the Central Intelligence Agency. Among his first postings was Damascus, Syria, beginning a long career in the Middle East. Working closely with Archibald Roosevelt (son of Theodore), and his nephew Kermit Roosevelt, Jr., he was instrumental in arranging Operation Ajax, the 1953 technical coup d'état against the democratic Prime Minister of Iran, Mohammed Mossadegh. CIA career In 1953, Copeland returned to private life at the consulting firm Booz Allen Hamilton, while remaining a non-official cover operative for the CIA. In this role he traveled to Cairo to offer Gamal Abdel Nasser, who had overthrown King Farouk and taken power in Egypt, U.S. technical assistance in their ongoing border conflicts. At the time, the U.S. considered regional instability surrounding the new state of Israel a threat to oil industry interests in the Middle East.[citation needed] In 1958, Syria merged with Egypt in the United Arab Republic; and in 1955 Copeland returned to the CIA. During the Suez Crisis, the United States decided to block France and the United Kingdom, which had invaded, and back Egypt's independence and control of the Suez Canal, a move said to have been advocated by Copeland with the goal of ending British control of the region's oil resources, and forestalling the influence of the Soviet Union on regional governments by placing the US on their side. Nevertheless, after the crisis Nasser moved closer to the USSR and accepted massive military technology and engineering assistance on the Aswan Dam. Copeland, allied with John and Allen Dulles, worked to reverse US diplomatic policy on Egypt at this time. After King Faisal II was deposed by Iraqi nationalists, Copeland admittedly oversaw CIA contacts with the regime and internal opponents including Saddam Hussein and others in the Ba'ath Party. With Egyptian assistance, Saddam was aided in the failed assassination of Prime Minister Abdul Karim Qassim, who had blocked union with the United Arab Republic, a goal of the Ba'athists.[citation needed] Saddam fled to Cairo and bided his time under Egyptian protection until a coup against Qassim — which blindsided American officials — occurred in 1963. Seizing the moment, Saddam, said to have been provided with U.S. weapons, took part in massacres of suspected Communists as the new regime consolidated power, and rose in the Ba'ath power structure. [2] Copeland opposed some major CIA operations such as the Bay of Pigs attempted invasion of Cuba in 1961, believing that they were impossible to keep secret due to size. For many years he was based in Beirut, where his children grew up attending the American Community School. He was later involved in the coup against Kwame Nkrumah, the elected President of Ghana. Retirement After retirement from the CIA, Copeland wrote foreign policy books and an autobiography, and articles for publications including the National Review. He was active in 1970s political efforts to defend the CIA against critics including the Church Committee. In 1988, Copeland wrote an article titled "Spooks for Bush" which asserted that the intelligence community overwhelmingly supported George H.W. Bush for President; Bush had run the CIA during the 1970s under Gerald Ford. Copeland wrote later of his suspicions that a drug from the CIA MK-ULTRA program similar to LSD may have been slipped to Democratic presidential candidate Edmund Muskie, causing his well-publicized emotional response to attacks on his wife, through either Howard Hunt or G. Gordon Liddy.[1] He also claimed that CIA assertions to the Church Committee that MK-ULTRA had poor results were a smokescreen, and that the Senate only got "the barest glimpse" of the scope of the project.[2] Copeland would continue to make bold assertions about CIA operations, both in interviews and his own books, but was never prosecuted for these statements, unlike colleague Frank Snepp, implying that the CIA approved of his statements. He claimed that CIA contacts in Britain aided the election of Margaret Thatcher as Prime Minister,[3] and that CIA operatives had a hand in the founding of the Church of Scientology.[4] During the Iran hostage crisis, Copeland met with Israeli officials during the crisis to carry a "track two" diplomatic initiative to Tehran offering a compromise. Copeland also met with other CIA operatives to formulate a rescue plan, which would have involved undercover agents dressed as Iranian military attempting to take custody of the hostages from the student leaders occupying U.S. embassy grounds, then transport them to a suburban location where they would be met by American aircraft. He is also suspected of knowledge or participation in the Reagan campaign's alleged deal with Iran to prevent the release of the embassy hostages prior the November 1980 U.S. presidential contest, which many assert ensured the end of Jimmy Carter's administration. Specifics of these alleged covert machinations are detailed in various political histories entitled October Surprise. In a 1990 interview, Copeland intimated knowledge that the Iranian government had signalled to the Republican campaign that they would not release the hostages before the election. He died in February 1991.[5] MTV studio in Toronto's Masonic Temple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookingfortruth Posted July 27, 2009 #303 Share Posted July 27, 2009 (edited) video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5dmJC4-88o quote: A look into the freemason influence upon the hip hop and music society, video: Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5-t6gc6Ivc Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ-EI-PNftw...feature=related Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ-EI-PNftw...feature=related quote: This video examines the various agendas that are CURRENTLY being pushed through Hip Hop and the direction they are moving us in. that sign that guy is doing with his hands is suspected to be illuminati. since its a pyrimid showing his left eye its very simaler to the one thats on your dollar with the all seeing eye and the pyramid which is directly linked to the illuminati Edited July 27, 2009 by lookingfortruth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puridalan Posted July 27, 2009 #304 Share Posted July 27, 2009 I was trying to ask dead Mr Copeland or hear something from him evefn if that sounds nuts, no ntohing about the man really in all honesty. Though I will say I got the name Bernadett from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunkerdrone Posted July 27, 2009 Author #305 Share Posted July 27, 2009 (edited) I am reposting the latest post in this thread, because , imo, someone just tried to bury it by quoting the previous post to it, just seconds after it was originally posted. Having it at the bottom of the thread ensures that people will not miss it, as I feel it is important information: OSS/CIA officer Miles Copeland Jr. "Copeland maintained that CIA assertions to the Church Committee that MK-ULTRA had poor results were a smokescreen, and that the Senate only got "the barest glimpse" of the scope of the project." Miles Copeland's son, Stewart Copeland, drummer for the Police Sumner Murray Rothstein (aka Sumner Redstone) worked with Miles Copeland (the father of the drummer for the Police) in the OSS (forerunner to the CIA) . Sting's father was Ernest Sumner Sumner Murray Redstone (born Sumner Murray Rothstein; May 27, 1923) is majority owner and Chairman of the Board of the National Amusements theater chain. Through National Amusements, Sumner Redstone and his family are majority owners of CBS Corporation, Viacom, and MTV Networks, BET, and movie production and distribution Paramount Pictures and DreamWorks movie studios, and are equal partners in MovieTickets.com. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Sumner_Redstone"Mr. Redstone served in the Military Intelligence Division during World War II. While a student at Harvard, he was selected by Japanese history professor Edwin Reischauer (later Ambassador to Japan) to join a special intelligence group whose mission was to break Japan's high-level military and diplomatic codes. In connection with these activities, Mr. Redstone received, among other honors, two commendations from the Military Intelligence Division in recognition of his service, contribution and devotion to duty. He is also a recipient of the Army Commendation Award Police Album with pyramid/triangle Miles Copeland, Jr. (July 16, 1916 – January 14, 1991) was an American musician, businessman, and CIA officer who was closely involved in major foreign-policy operations from the 1950s to the 1980s. He was married to archaeologist Lorraine Copeland and was the father of record producer Miles Copeland III, booking agent Ian Copeland, writer/film producer Lorraine (Lennie) Copeland and Stewart Copeland, best known as the drummer for The Police.Career Copeland was born in Birmingham, Alabama, the son of a doctor. He did not graduate from college and became a trumpet player with bandleaders such as Erskine Hawkins, Charlie Barnet, Ray Noble, and Glenn Miller. OSS founding At the outbreak of World War II, Copeland contacted Rep. John Sparkman of Alabama, who got him a job with Army Intelligence. Showing promise, he was one of the founding members of the OSS under William "Wild Bill" Donovan, serving in London, where he became a lifelong Anglophile and married Lorraine Adie, a Scot then serving in the Special Operations Executive. [1] He remained with the office as it was transformed into the Central Intelligence Agency. Among his first postings was Damascus, Syria, beginning a long career in the Middle East. Working closely with Archibald Roosevelt (son of Theodore), and his nephew Kermit Roosevelt, Jr., he was instrumental in arranging Operation Ajax, the 1953 technical coup d'état against the democratic Prime Minister of Iran, Mohammed Mossadegh. CIA career In 1953, Copeland returned to private life at the consulting firm Booz Allen Hamilton, while remaining a non-official cover operative for the CIA. In this role he traveled to Cairo to offer Gamal Abdel Nasser, who had overthrown King Farouk and taken power in Egypt, U.S. technical assistance in their ongoing border conflicts. At the time, the U.S. considered regional instability surrounding the new state of Israel a threat to oil industry interests in the Middle East.[citation needed] In 1958, Syria merged with Egypt in the United Arab Republic; and in 1955 Copeland returned to the CIA. During the Suez Crisis, the United States decided to block France and the United Kingdom, which had invaded, and back Egypt's independence and control of the Suez Canal, a move said to have been advocated by Copeland with the goal of ending British control of the region's oil resources, and forestalling the influence of the Soviet Union on regional governments by placing the US on their side. Nevertheless, after the crisis Nasser moved closer to the USSR and accepted massive military technology and engineering assistance on the Aswan Dam. Copeland, allied with John and Allen Dulles, worked to reverse US diplomatic policy on Egypt at this time. After King Faisal II was deposed by Iraqi nationalists, Copeland admittedly oversaw CIA contacts with the regime and internal opponents including Saddam Hussein and others in the Ba'ath Party. With Egyptian assistance, Saddam was aided in the failed assassination of Prime Minister Abdul Karim Qassim, who had blocked union with the United Arab Republic, a goal of the Ba'athists.[citation needed] Saddam fled to Cairo and bided his time under Egyptian protection until a coup against Qassim — which blindsided American officials — occurred in 1963. Seizing the moment, Saddam, said to have been provided with U.S. weapons, took part in massacres of suspected Communists as the new regime consolidated power, and rose in the Ba'ath power structure. [2] Copeland opposed some major CIA operations such as the Bay of Pigs attempted invasion of Cuba in 1961, believing that they were impossible to keep secret due to size. For many years he was based in Beirut, where his children grew up attending the American Community School. He was later involved in the coup against Kwame Nkrumah, the elected President of Ghana. Retirement After retirement from the CIA, Copeland wrote foreign policy books and an autobiography, and articles for publications including the National Review. He was active in 1970s political efforts to defend the CIA against critics including the Church Committee. In 1988, Copeland wrote an article titled "Spooks for Bush" which asserted that the intelligence community overwhelmingly supported George H.W. Bush for President; Bush had run the CIA during the 1970s under Gerald Ford. Copeland wrote later of his suspicions that a drug from the CIA MK-ULTRA program similar to LSD may have been slipped to Democratic presidential candidate Edmund Muskie, causing his well-publicized emotional response to attacks on his wife, through either Howard Hunt or G. Gordon Liddy.[1] He also claimed that CIA assertions to the Church Committee that MK-ULTRA had poor results were a smokescreen, and that the Senate only got "the barest glimpse" of the scope of the project.[2] Copeland would continue to make bold assertions about CIA operations, both in interviews and his own books, but was never prosecuted for these statements, unlike colleague Frank Snepp, implying that the CIA approved of his statements. He claimed that CIA contacts in Britain aided the election of Margaret Thatcher as Prime Minister,[3] and that CIA operatives had a hand in the founding of the Church of Scientology.[4] During the Iran hostage crisis, Copeland met with Israeli officials during the crisis to carry a "track two" diplomatic initiative to Tehran offering a compromise. Copeland also met with other CIA operatives to formulate a rescue plan, which would have involved undercover agents dressed as Iranian military attempting to take custody of the hostages from the student leaders occupying U.S. embassy grounds, then transport them to a suburban location where they would be met by American aircraft. He is also suspected of knowledge or participation in the Reagan campaign's alleged deal with Iran to prevent the release of the embassy hostages prior the November 1980 U.S. presidential contest, which many assert ensured the end of Jimmy Carter's administration. Specifics of these alleged covert machinations are detailed in various political histories entitled October Surprise. In a 1990 interview, Copeland intimated knowledge that the Iranian government had signalled to the Republican campaign that they would not release the hostages before the election. He died in February 1991.[5 ] MTV studio in Toronto's Masonic Temple Edited July 27, 2009 by thunkerdrone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puridalan Posted July 27, 2009 #306 Share Posted July 27, 2009 check out this video of FBI agent Michael Ruppertconfronting the director of the CIA on CIA drug smuggling into American inner cities: (someone says "watch his hands" at 2:18, and notice the masonic hand signals he flashes as he answers Ruppert) to see another example of masonic hand signals go this video and fast-forward to 5:57: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3...jones&hl=en 218=11...master number...there u go, guess they do like games lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunkerdrone Posted July 28, 2009 Author #307 Share Posted July 28, 2009 a whole series of Hells Angels biker flicks was shot in the 1960's at Spahn Ranch, the same place (desert town movie set) that Charles Manson and his CIA hippie cult lived. Ever wonder why no one kicked them out of there? It is widely known that the military complex destroyed the 1960's peace movement through deliberate insertion of satanists, drugs, and the creation of front groups by CIA operatives . see 'operation chaos' or wikipedia also, the Harley Davidson Military Sales Program (discount Harley Davidsons available to all U.S. military personnel) was created in 1965, during the same time that the whole 'operation chaos' project was being set up. Could it be that the same people who created the 60's biker culture, the Hells Angels, the movies shot at Spahn Ranch, etc., also created Charles Manson and his satanist LSD cult? Could it be that they put him and his followers up at Spahn Ranch in some project to go one further than movies, some experiment to actually create a 'real-life movie', so to speak, in some attempt to 'bring the characters to life' which they had created in films like this: this film was shot at Spahn Ranch at the same time that the Manson family was living at the ranch: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064939/ http://www.amazon.com/Satans-Sadists-Russ-...n/dp/B000056HPF Satan's Sadists Product Description Review The late Al Adamson made some silly films in his time (Blood of Ghastly Horror, Blazing Stewardesses, Dracula vs. Frankenstein), but none sillier than this off-the-wall movie about mean bikers who take over a small town. Sure, that plot has been seen before, but never like this. A steady stream of dumb dialogue, cheesy music, and some of the strangest sexual innuendo in action cinema will keep cult devotees and bad-move buffs howling. There's Russ Tamblyn, as the gang's nasty leader, in his "greatest role since West Side Story," according to the ads. Tamblyn gives an outrageously silly performance, cramming food and drugs down people's throats and saying things like, "I got friends who ain't got hate inside them. Their only crime is growing their hair long, smoking grass, and looking at the stars at night! And what do you do? You bust down their doors and you bust on their heads, man! Dumb-*** cops!" John "Bud" Cardos, future director of Kingdom of the Spiders, appears as an Indian biker with an unnatural-looking mohawk, but the most noticeable member of the cast is Adamson's longtime wife, Regina Carrol, billed as "The Freak-Out Girl." She holds a baby's bottle to her breast and intones, "How about a little of THIS, baby?" while the camera zooms in on the bottle's nipple. At least the film moves at a reasonable pace, unlike many of Adamson's interminably slow horror films, and is -- in a peculiar way -- entertaining.True-crime buffs should note that much of the film was shot at the Spahn Movie Ranch at the time Charles Manson's "family" lived there. This fact was exploited in the ads with the tasteful tagline "Filmed in the exact location that the Tate hippie killers lived their wild experiences!" ~ Robert Firsching, All Movie Guide and check out this review of 'Angels Wild Women',another Spahn Ranch Hells' Angels flidk. The reviewer is almost gloating that operation chaos had succeeded in destroying the peace movement: http://www.amazon.com/Angels-Wild-Women-Jo...m/dp/B000056HPG "Actually, the bikers in the film are quite tame. In contrast to Al's classic "Satan's Sadists", this film provides a positive perspective on bikers. The men do get into a bit of macho posturing, but otherwise they're nice folk looking for fun and freedom. The plot of this film is quite worthwhile, however, and provides an excellent look at the end of an era. When the film was made, the Manson family trials had just occurred, which led those equating Manson's family with the hippies to declare that the hippy movement was dead. This movie, which was largely shot at the Spahn ranch, out of which Manson operated, taps into this." Satan's Sadists note the maltese cross and the swastika: Charles Manson himself later carved a swastika into his forehead, and he was the guest of the people making 'Satan's Sadists' at Spahn Ranch. Was 'the family' really Charles Manson's cult, or was it something quite a bit bigger? Charles Manson's cult went on to murder actress Sharon Tate, pregnant wife of director/producer Roman Polanski , who made Rosemary's Baby, about rich occultists living in 'The Dakota', who make a deal with an aspiring actor, offering him a big break in his career if he agrees to give them control of his pregnant wife and their baby. The Dakota then it turns out that the same people who built and owned the Dakota, in real life, also owned Jorstadt Castle/aka Singer Castle (on Dark Island) , which had secret passageways built into the closets , just like Rosemary's closet in Rosemary's Baby. Singer Castle (aka Jorstadt Castle) on Dark Island , originally built and owned by the same people who built 'The Dakota' creepy Boldt Castle is also nearby, complete with 13 foors as its builder was obsessed with the number 13, as us Deer Island, which is owned by the Skull n' Bones society of Yale, and was featured in the Matt Damon/Angelina Jolie film 'The Good Shepherd'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunkerdrone Posted July 28, 2009 Author #308 Share Posted July 28, 2009 (edited) parts of the film Skulls (about the Skull n' Bones society) were filmed on Dark Island at Singer Castle, which is said to be completely riddled with underground tunnels interesting that the film 'Skulls' was partially filmed on Dark Island, which used to be owned by La Salle Military Academy, and is home to Singer Castle (aka Jorstadt Castle). Singer Castle was built and owned by the same people who built and owned 'The Dakota' apartments where Rosemary's Baby was filmed , and where John Lennon was shot by Manchurian candidate Mark David Chapman. interesting related factoids: the director of the original 1962 version of 'The Manchurian Candidate' John Frankenheimer was a student of La Salle Military Academy, Frank Sinatra starred in the Manchurian Candidate, and bought the rights to the film and removed it from circulation, and was at one point married to Mia Farrow, the star of Rosemary's Baby. in the year 2000. director/producer Rob Cohen made the film 'Skulls', based on the Skull n'Bones society at Yale. Parts of the movie were shot on Dark Island in Singer Castle. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_CohenCohen was born in Cornwall, New York. He graduated from Harvard University. As producer, he has been behind many major motion pictures, including The Witches of Eastwick, The Serpent and the Rainbow, and The Running Man. where this gets really creepy is that the same Rob Cohen who directed the film 'Skulls' about a cult that engages in live burial rituals also produced the film 'The Serpent and the Rainbow', which is based on a true story of live burial mind control in Haiti. http://www.revenantmagazine.com/serpentandrainbow.jpgThe Serpent and the Rainbow is a 1988 American horror film, very loosely based on a non-fiction book by ethnobotanist Wade Davis, dealing with his experiences in Haiti as he investigates the story of Clairvius Narcisse, allegedly poisoned, buried alive, and given a herbal brew whose effects mimicked zombification. Synopsis Dennis Alan, an ethnobotanist/anthropologist from Harvard University, narrowly escapes the Amazon Jungle at the beginning and returns to Boston. Word of his exploits gets around and he is approached by a large pharmaceutical corporation looking to investigate a drug that is part of the Voodoo religion in Haiti that they want to acquire in order to mass produce. They send him to Haiti to find out about the drug, but he winds up learning more about zombification instead. In essence, the drug is an alternate and less dangerous method of anesthesia. When Alan arrives in Haiti the country is in the middle of a revolution of sorts. The government is taking anyone prisoner who they think is against the current political powers. He eventually meets another doctor who helps him research and investigate the so-called zombies. What he finds is the evil that lurks behind the Voodoo religion and the destruction it can cause to the human mind. Background The drug named in the film is tetrodotoxin. In the real-life "zombification" case of Clairvius Narcisse of Haiti, the poison that caused the appearance of death was reported to be tetrodotoxin, but the mind-control drug given after he was unburied was a brew derived from Datura stramonium. The film depicted the poisoning attack with the powdered drug being blown into the victim's face, which is most consistent with involuntary dosing of scopolamine. Scopolamine is one of the alkaloids in Datura, known to facilitate behavior control, but not the appearance of death. Clairvius Narcisse was a Haitian man said to have been turned into a living zombie with the use of a combination of drugs[1]. His case attracted considerable interest and some scientific investigation at the time[2]. History According to reports, [3]Clairvius was poisoned with a mixture of various natural poisons to simulate death[citation needed]. The instigator of the poisoning was alleged to be his brother, with whom he had quarreled over land.[4] After his "death" and subsequent burial on May 2, 1962, his body was recovered and he was given a paste made from datura[citation needed] which at certain doses has a hallucinogenic effect and can cause memory loss. His new 'master', a bokor (sorcerer), then forced him, alongside many other zombie slaves, to work on a sugar plantation until the master's death in 1964[citation needed]. When the bokor died, and regular doses of the hallucinogen ceased, he eventually regained sanity (unlike many others who had suffered brain damage from being buried alive[citation needed]) and returned to his family after some time, though only after finding his brother had died. [4] Narcisse's story was popularized in the book The Serpent and the Rainbow by Wade Davis, who is currently an "explorer in residence" for National Geographic. Although many are critical and suspicious of Mr. Davis' work, since his morals, as detailed in the book, prevented the necessary scientific experiments to prove his hypothesis that Clairvius Narcisse was drugged with a neurotoxin that simulates death. The poison apparently used was derived from the puffer fish, which produces a well known and highly documented neurotoxin (tetrodotoxin) that produces paralysis and in modified form can mimic death through reduced metabolism and heart rate. The secretions of the poisonous cane toad Bufo marinus were apparently used as an anaesthetic companion drug, while the resuscitating, mind-controlling drug was said to be made from the weed Datura stramonium.[ Edited July 28, 2009 by thunkerdrone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunkerdrone Posted July 28, 2009 Author #309 Share Posted July 28, 2009 interesting that Rob Cohen produced The Serpent and the Rainbow, which was based on a true story of Haitian voodoo. Cohen also produced 'The Running Man', which is the story of a convicted man slated for execution , who is used in a deadly game of hide and seek, where the prisoners slated for execution are hunted down and killed. the interesting aspect here is that Cohen may be again involved in a film based partially on a true story, considering allegations that part of MKultra trauma-based conditioning involves similar scenarios, where a victim selected for programming may be placed among a group of 'expendables' that are systematically hunted and violently murdered in close proximity to the hiding subject , a sadistic game designed to inflict mind-shattering terror on the 'trainee'. A book by mk victim Cathy O'Brien mentions this, read an excerpt here: http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%2...gerous_game.htm Also interesting regarding voodoo, is that Jonestown is considered by many to have been a CIA experiment in behavior modification, to see how thoroughly controlled a slave population could be through various experimental new methods, including drugs and hypnosis, consider that Jones may have been using voodoo techniques similar to those described by Harvard professor Wade Davis in The Serpent and the Rainbow. the following 1972 article describes Jim Jones performing resurrections of 'dead people' , which sounds awfully similar to what the Hatiian voodoo doctors were into. http://jonestownapologistsarticlearchive.b...aises-dead.htmlTHE PROPHET WHO RAISES THE DEAD By Rev. Lester Kinsolving Examiner Religion Writer [september 17, 1972 Page 1] REDWOOD VALLEY ---- A man they call The Prophet is attracting extraordinary crowds from extraordinary distances to his People’s Temple Christian (Disciples) Church in this Mendocino County hamlet. His followers say he can raise the dead. The PTC (D) Church’s mimeographed newsletter recently described the resurrection of a Los Angeles man. And one director of the Temple claims that The Prophet has returned life to “more than 40 persons…..people stiff as a board, tongues hanging out, eyes set, skin graying, and all vital signs absent.” Mrs. Freestone also recalls that she was given orders not to associate with non-members of the Temple, except as absolutely necessary in her secular job. As for those who leave the congregation, they are either to be shunned -- or warned that something dreadful will happen to them. This technique has worked effectively for generations of voodoo leaders and witch doctors. And in Ukiah, given the present circumstances, it works especially well. http://ca.video.yahoo.com/watch/1119566219/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunkerdrone Posted July 29, 2009 Author #310 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Three-part video on the CIA's Jonestown mkultra experiment, and the Jonestown massacre: video: I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANJUb_rXLe0...re=channel_page II http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3Wv00GR4o0...feature=channel III http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A--iigX27Q...feature=channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunkerdrone Posted July 29, 2009 Author #311 Share Posted July 29, 2009 (edited) http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090723/ap_on_...ruption_arrests http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=7361 video: http://watch.ctv.ca/news/ctv-national-news...-23/#clip196677 Three NJ Mayors, A Couple of State Legislators and A Busload of Rabbis Arrested in Corruption Sting, Selling Human Organs July 28. 2009 An investigation into the sale of black-market kidneys and fake Gucci handbags evolved into a sweeping probe of political corruption in New Jersey, ensnaring more than 40 people Thursday, including three mayors, two state lawmakers and several rabbis. Even for a state with a rich history of graft, the scale of wrongdoing alleged was breathtaking. An FBI official called corruption "a cancer that is destroying the core values of this state." Federal prosecutors said the investigation initially focused on a money laundering network that operated between Brooklyn, N.Y.; Deal, N.J.; and Israel. The network is alleged to have laundered tens of millions of dollars through Jewish charities controlled by rabbis in New York and New Jersey. Prosecutors then used an informant in that investigation to help them go after corrupt politicians. The informant — a real estate developer charged with bank fraud three years ago — posed as a crooked businessman and paid a string of public officials tens of thousands of dollars in bribes to get approvals for buildings and other projects in New Jersey, authorities said. Among the 44 people arrested were the mayors of Hoboken, Ridgefield and Secaucus, Jersey City's deputy mayor, and two state assemblymen. A member of the governor's cabinet resigned after agents searched his home, though he was not arrested. All but one of the officeholders are Democrats. Also, five rabbis from New York and New Jersey — two of whom lead congregations in Deal — were accused of laundering millions of dollars, some of it from the sale of counterfeit goods and bankruptcy fraud, authorities said. In rounding up the defendants, FBI and IRS agents raided a synagogue Thursday morning in Deal, a wealthy oceanfront city of Mediterranean-style mansions, with a large population of Syrian Jews. Those arrested included Levy Izhak Rosenbaum of Brooklyn, who was charged with conspiring to arrange the sale of an Israeli citizen's kidney for $160,000 for a transplant for the informant's fictitious uncle. Rosenbaum was quoted as saying he had been arranging the sale of kidneys for 10 years. The politicians arrested were not accused of any involvement in the money laundering or the trafficking in human organs and counterfeit handbags. The number of arrests was remarkable even for New Jersey, where more than 130 public officials have pleaded guilty or have been convicted of corruption since 2001. "New Jersey's corruption problem is one of the worst, if not the worst, in the nation," said Ed Kahrer, who heads the FBI's white-collar and public corruption division. "Corruption is a cancer that is destroying the core values of this state." Gov. Jon Corzine said: "The scale of corruption we're seeing as this unfolds is simply outrageous and cannot be tolerated." Hours after FBI agents seized documents from his home and office, New Jersey Community Affairs Commissioner Joseph Doria resigned. Federal officials would not say whether he would be charged. Doria did not return calls for comment. The informant, whose name was not released, was the hinge between the two investigations. He gave prosecutors information about the money laundering operation, and later, at the direction of the FBI, drew on his background to go after politicians. He found a particularly receptive ally in Hoboken Mayor Peter Cammarano III, according to prosecutors. The 32-year-old Cammarano, who won a runoff election last month, was accused of accepting money from the developer at a Hoboken diner. "There's the people who were with us, and that's you guys," the complaint quotes Cammarano saying. "There's the people who climbed on board in the runoff. They can get in line. ... And then there are the people who were against us the whole way. ... They get ground into powder." Cammarano attorney Joseph Hayden said his client is "innocent of these charges. He intends to fight them with all his strength until he proves his innocence." Cammarano was accused of accepting $25,000 in cash bribes. Secaucus Mayor Dennis Elwell was charged with taking $10,000. Ridgefield Mayor Anthony Suarez was charged with agreeing to accept an illegal $10,000. Jersey City Deputy Mayor Leona Beldini was charged with conspiracy to commit extortion by taking $20,000 in illegal campaign contributions. State Assemblymen Daniel Van Pelt and L. Harvey Smith were also accused of taking payoffs. Jersey City Mayor Jerramiah Healy said the charges were "a little shocking." "I have full faith in Leona," Healy said. "She's a good friend of mine — was and will be." Mike Winnick was praying inside the Deal Synagogue when it was raided. He said four FBI agents escorted a rabbi into his office and blocked the doorway. "Everyone was looking at each other, like, `What's going on here?'" Winnick said. Busloads carrying those arrested were brought to the FBI's Newark office. One agent slowly walked an elderly rabbi into the building as another covered his face with a felt hat. source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090723/ap_on_...ruption_arrests Edited July 29, 2009 by thunkerdrone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunkerdrone Posted July 29, 2009 Author #312 Share Posted July 29, 2009 video: check this out , Jewish mayor on enemies of Jewish mafia: "They get ground into powder." Money Laundering and Human Organ Trafficking in Democratic Society - Fox News: Massive corruption in New Jersey, USA - ABC 072409: Jews, politicians, busted selling human organs on the black market: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw_DBGLTqPw...feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunkerdrone Posted July 30, 2009 Author #313 Share Posted July 30, 2009 quote: Dreaded Israeli “White Ship of Death” Sails Again By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Russian Subscribers Strange and frightening news has reached us today that once again the Israeli White Ship of Death is again sailing the worlds oceans for the procurement of children for the harvesting of their organs, and as many Middle Eastern countries have alleged for the human sacrifice of these children too. From the Israeli National News service we read, “An Israeli boat patrolling near Iran is holding kidnapped babies to be used later for their organs, according to a new Iranian television program.” The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) has also reported about this event and quoted the Iranian producer of this program as saying, "We have presented only a small portion of the Zionists' crimes. During our work [on the film] we received information-- even from Jews sympathizing with our point of view. They themselves were anti-Zionists. These were monotheistic Jews. They gave us information that made us regret the film had been completed. I wish we had this information before we made the film." Of the Israeli’s past involvement with these types of stories we are all familiar with, as well as are many other world governments and peoples. From Romania we have read in past news reports, “The Romanian Embassy in Israel has asked for, and received from the Labor and Social Affairs Ministry, a list of all children born in Romania who have been brought to Israel for adoption in recent years. The Romanian officials are trying to ascertain if all such children arrived in Israel with all organs in their bodies." In a report from the United States involving organizations investigating the selling of baby organs along the Mexican American border, and titled “The Shameful Trade in Mexican Baby Organs!”, we can further read in another of their reports titled "Is Israel harvesting organs of Palestinian youths?", these frightening words, "The report says that the Israeli Minister of Health, Nessim Dahhan, tacitly admitted to the horrific practice in an answer to Arab member of the Knesset Ahmed Teibi. Nessim Dahhan said in response to a question by Ahmed Teibi, on Tuesday, that he couldn't deny that organs of Palestinian youths and children killed by the Israeli forces were taken out for transplants or scientific research." The historical information relating these types of barbaric instances involving some sects of the Jewish peoples and their sacrifices of children are well documented and include even their own religious history, teachings and books. From one their own great leaders of the past, the Great King Solomon, these Jewish people were warned about these things, “For whether they kill children in their initiations, or celebrate secret mysteries, or hold frenzied revels with strange customs, they no longer keep either their lives or their marriages pure, but they either treacherously kill one another, or grieve one another by adultery, and all is a raging riot of blood and murder, theft and deceit, corruption, faithlessness, tumult, perjury, confusion over what is good, forgetfulness of favors, pollution of souls, sex perversion, disorder in marriage, adultery, and debauchery.” [Wisdom of Solomon 14:23-26] (It is not to all of the Jewish peoples that these writings and warnings are about, but to those few of them who have throughout history destroyed the reputations of all of them by their strange and unnatural acts. Many are there in fact small groups of Jewish people in Israel and the United States themselves fighting against these monsters.) Even to the Western worlds great British hero of the Great War (World War II) Winston Churchill, these warnings have come, and as he said in an interview given to the newspaper Illustrated Sunday Herald and published on February 8, 1920, “In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish effort rise the schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this sinister confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy populations of countries where Jews are persecuted on account of their race. Most, if not all, of them have forsaken the faith of their forefathers, and divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world.” To the former Soviet Intelligence services this White Ship of Death was also well known, but not to the American peoples even though in 1967 one of their naval ships, The USS Liberty, attempted to stop and board the White Ship of Death. From the Soviet archives this White Ship of Death had left the war area with many hundreds of abducted children and was bound back to Israel when the USS Liberty attempted to stop them. From one of the many articles about this event, though none of them dares going to the truth of these events, titled "The USS Liberty: America's Most Shameful Secret" we can read; "At 0800 hrs, 8 June, 1967, eight Israeli recon flights flew over 'Liberty,' which was flying a large American flag. At 1400 hrs, waves of low-flying Israeli Mystere and Mirage-III fighter-bombers repeatedly attacked the American vessel with rockets, napalm, and cannon. The air attacks lasted 20 minutes, concentrating on the ship's electronic antennas and dishes. The 'Liberty' was left afire, listing sharply. Eight of her crew lay dead, a hundred seriously wounded, including the captain, Commander William McGonagle. At 1424 hrs, three Israeli torpedo boats attacked, raking the burning 'Liberty' with 20mm and 40mm shells. At 1431hrs an Israeli torpedo hit the 'Liberty' midship, precisely where the signals intelligence systems were located. Twenty-five more Americans died. Israeli gunboats circled the wounded 'Liberty,' firing at crewmen trying to fight the fires. At 1515, the crew were ordered to abandon ship. The Israeli warships closed and poured machine gun fire into the crowded life rafts, sinking two. As American sailors were being massacred in cold blood, a rescue mission by US Sixth Fleet carrier aircraft was mysteriously aborted on orders from the White House. An hour after the attack, Israeli warships and planes returned. Commander McGonagle gave the order. 'prepare to repel borders.' But the Israelis, probably fearful of intervention by the US Sixth Fleet, departed. 'Liberty' was left shattered but still defiant, her flag flying." To the madness of these particularly Jewish sects one cannot exaggerate too much, but instead has to temper their words because the truths of them are so monstrous as to be almost unbelievable. But there are no better people, and with more of a right to speak about these barbarians than us Russians because of the cruelty they have inflicted upon our own people, and to the deaths of tens of millions of Russians. To all Russians was never the mindset for communism, but to our Jewish masters for decades was this shame of thinking and ill logic brought upon us. Even to Winston Churchill, who I had quoted before, about these events knew, and had said; “There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and an the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution: by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews. It is certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others. With the notable exception of Lenin, the majority of the leading figures are Jews. Moreover, the principal inspiration and driving power comes from the Jewish leaders. Thus Tchitcherin, a pure Russian, is eclipsed by his nominal subordinate Litvinoff, and the influence of Russians like Bukharin or Lunacharski cannot be compared with the power of Trotsky, or of Zinovieff, the Dictator of the Red Citadel (Petrograd), or of Krassin or Radek -- all Jews. In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed the principal, part in the system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by Jewesses." Even breaking the tyrannical grip of these Jewish masters the Russian people, especially our young women, have still been looked upon by Israel as their prey, and no better example exists than their using of Russian children and girls for their sex slaves. "The non-profit Israel Women's Network estimates that 70% of prostituted women in Tel Aviv, Israel's commercial center, come from the former Soviet republics, and that about 1,000 women are brought into Israel illegally each year. At any one time, as many as 100 women may be awaiting deportation in Neve Tirza women's prison near Tel Aviv's Ben-Gurion airport, a prison spokeswoman said.", says this report by the International Organization that tracks sexual slavery around the world. And notice too the response from the Israeli authorities, and as quoted from Reuters News Service, "While trafficked women are frequently arrested as illegal workers, the men who brought them to Israel -- many of whom are Israeli citizens -- are not. Justice Ministry spokeswoman Etty Eshed said the government would think about making legal changes to address trafficking in the "near future" but had no date or plan for doing so." Think about this closely, the men who bring these young children to Israel, with many being Israeli citizens, are NOT arrested and prosecuted. Why? We can only be led to believe it is because their efforts have been determined by them to be more important in other areas, such as the targeted killing of Americans, and others, on American soil, and as we read in this UPI news report titled, "Israel to kill in U.S., allied nations", and which says, "Israel is embarking upon a more aggressive approach to the war on terror that will include staging targeted killings in the United States and other friendly countries, former Israeli intelligence officials told United Press International." Or it could be because of the greater importance to the Israelis of creating sexual spy rings to illicit secret intelligence information from their axis allies, and as we can read in the news today from Australia that says; "ASIO has cracked a spy ring in Canberra after tailing an Israeli diplomat who was suspected of being an agent of Mossad, Israel's espionage service. Amir Lati, the second secretary at the Israeli Embassy, was secretly expelled from Australia last month. He is known to have seduced a senior Defence Department official who is believed to have had access to classified documents. It is believed he intended to use the woman to gain US intelligence and military technology given to Australia. The Australian Security and Intelligence Organisation put the junior Israeli diplomat – and other embassy officials – under surveillance after he visited two suspected Israeli spies who were arrested in New Zealand. The scandal has rocked Canberra's intelligence community, and Defence has launched a major investigation into the affair." I think it is well we read again the warning about these people from their own great leader Solomon, “For whether they kill children in their initiations, or celebrate secret mysteries, or hold frenzied revels with strange customs, they no longer keep either their lives or their marriages pure, but they either treacherously kill one another, or grieve one another by adultery, and all is a raging riot of blood and murder, theft and deceit, corruption, faithlessness, tumult, perjury, confusion over what is good, forgetfulness of favors, pollution of souls, sex perversion, disorder in marriage, adultery, and debauchery.” [Wisdom of Solomon 14:23-26] I do not believe I can find better words to describe the axis of power that Israel, Japan and the United States belong to then, Riot of blood and murder, theft and deceit, corruption, faithlessness, tumult, perjury, confusion over what is good, forgetfulness of favors, pollution of souls, sex perversion, disorder in marriage, adultery and debauchery. Yet they have eyes, but do not see these things. Even to the strange and barbaric custom of these Jewish sects to sucking on the penises of baby children they are not outraged, and as we read reported in America from the WNBC Television news source, "The New York City Health Department said three infants circumcised by Fischer got herpes and one died. Fischer uses his mouth to suction blood from the wound after he removes the foreskin. The ritual is used predominantly by Hasidic Jews." It is no astonishment to any Russian though about these people, and even now efforts are beginning to ban these Jewish sects from our life, and as we read about recent events in this Western article titled “Russia's nationalists call for ban on Jewish groups”, and which says; "Russia's nationalist lawmakers have asked the prosecutor general to ban all Jewish organizations because of their "extremist" views... Russia's nationalist lawmakers have asked the prosecutor general to ban all Jewish organizations because of their "extremist" views. "We would not want our Russia, which is subject to a permanent, extra-legal war seeking to prevent its rebirth, to find itself among unfree countries," the statement said. It called on the Russian courts to ban "all Jewish religious and community groups" which the statement also described as "anti-Christian" and accused Jews of staging attacks against their own community as a provocation so they could pin blame on others. "We would like to underline that many anti-Jewish acts around the world are staged by the Jews themselves as a provocation in order to take punitive measures against patriots," the letter said." The propaganda departments of the military governmental, political, news media and entertainment arms of the Axis Powers (United States, Israel and Japan) are so complete as to keep the knowledge of these events from their average citizens. Their greatest fear lies though in the growing body of evidence being compiled against them in the International Criminal Court. Should the Axis powers lose this war many of their war criminals will be brought to Justice, even those who like the Nazi’s, say in their defense, “We did not know about these things.” From the Jewish sect that has brought forth to this world in the past 200 years the tyranny of communism, the barbarities of the gulag and concentration camps, the perversion of the natural sexes by homosexuality, the mass murder of the unborn through abortion, the almost complete destruction of the values and moralities of the Christian church, the enslavement of children and women for their enjoyment of sexual perversities, the complete destruction of the Western worlds once great educational systems and the forcing upon the world the dark and mysterious religions of the ancient world, the Western World lies complete in her evil and monstrous grip. The White Ship of Death sails upon the seas once more, but unseen by those of the Western World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunkerdrone Posted August 2, 2009 Author #314 Share Posted August 2, 2009 (edited) Nothing like the Pickton pig farm to boost sales........yeah, that's it..... Layoff Tracker The Weekly Layoff Report: Mass Layoffs Return Sam Niles, 07.17.09, 05:56 PM EDT Harley-Davidson lays off 1000, sales down 39%. http://www.forbes.com/2009/07/17/layoff-tr...hip-report.html With its sales of motorcycles down 30% and its revenue down 27% from last year, Harley-Davidson, the legendary producer of high-end hogs, slashed its expectations for this year's shipments by nearly 20% this week and let go of 1,000 workers. This follows the company's January job cut of 1,100, bringing its total staff reduction so far this year to 2,100. The company employs around 9,300 altogether. Its new chairman and chief executive officer, Keith Wandell, who took charge in May, maintained that Harley's brand is still top-notch, and that the sales slump reflects only the down economy: "It is obviously a very tough environment for us right now, given the continued weak consumer spending in the overall economy for discretionary purchases." Harley's stock price was floating around $18.90 on Friday, down by more than half since last year. It hit a low of $7.99 in March 2009. Edited August 2, 2009 by thunkerdrone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunkerdrone Posted August 19, 2009 Author #315 Share Posted August 19, 2009 (edited) The Bohemian Grove - Jonestown connection Close connections between the Bohemian Grove, the KKK, and the Jim Jones Mkultra compound in northern California that later fled to Jonestown , Guyana to escape public scrutiny. Quote Jim Jones' 'Peoples Temple' church movement When the Peoples Temple expanded its operations into the Bay Area in the 1970s, its staff concentrated on advertising the Temple's bus caravans to attract new converts, including handing out free trinkets.[3] While in 1972, the Temple was still calling its Redwood Valley facility the "mother church" of a statewide movement, moving the seat of power to an urban area seemed a strategic necessity.[4] It had held services in San Francisco and Los Angleles since 1970. [ In 1971, the Temple established a permanent facility in an old San Francisco building that used to be the Albert Pike Memorial Scottish Rite temple on 1859 Geary Boulevard[6] in San Francisco's Western Addition, and followed in 1972 with a facility in Los Angeles. [4] The Temple purchased the Geary Boulevard building for $122,500 in 1972.[7] While the Los Angeles branch started with a larger mostly African-American membership, the Temple later enticed hundreds of devoted Los Angeles members to move north to San Francisco to attend that facility.[4] Albert Pike was co-founder of the Ku Klux Klan KKK insignia with triangle check the following link at Google maps, which proves that the Albert Pike Scottish Rite temple, headquarters of Jim Jones' 'People's Temple' in San Francisco, was a 6 minute drive away from the Bohemian Club headquarters: http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=d&source=...e=UTF8&z=15 pink triangle flag - the People's Temple had a branch church in Santa Rosa, northern california, a 48 minute drive East of Bohemian Grove: http://maps.google.ca/maps?daddr=1501+Mend...352592&z=12 quote: By the mid-1970s, in addition to its locations in Redwood Valley, Los Angeles and San Francisco, the Peoples Temple had also established satellite congregations in almost a dozen other California cities.[25] Jones mentioned locations in San Francisco, Ukiah, Los Angeles, Bakersfield, Fresno and Sacramento.[39] The Temple also maintained a branch, college tuition program and dormitory at Santa Rosa Junior College.[40 - the People's Temple owned six homes for foster children: quote: During the 1970s, the Peoples Temple owned and ran at least nine residential care homes for the elderly, six homes for foster children, and a state-licensed 40-acre ranch for developmentally disabled persons.[43] The Temple elite handled members' insurance claims and legal problems, effectively acting as a client-advocacy group. -The People's Temple supported the Symbionese Liberation Army: quote: During the height of Jim Jones’ fame, there were also some controversies that were a sign of some darker things to come. Law enforcement began to look closer at the Peoples Temple when they began to support domestic terror groups, such as the Symbionese Liberation Army. In addition, anyone who decided to leave the group was often targeted with violence and some were actually killed. It was never proven that the defectors were killed by other members, although many believe this to be true. Due to the controversies surrounding the PeoplesTemple, Jones began looking for a new place out of the United States to relocate his organization. - Both Walter Mondale and Jimmy Carter are members of Bohemian Grove, and both had close ties to the People's Temple: quote: After Jones' rise to political prominence in San Francisco, the Temple had a few meetings with members of the the administration of President Jimmy Carter before the 1976 United States presidential campaign. During that campaign, Jones and George Moscone met privately with Vice Presidential Candidate Walter Mondale on his campaign plane at San Francisco's airport.[47][48] As soon as the encounter ended, Jones bandied it about to increase his standing with the Guyanese government, claiming he and Mondale engaged in private talks regarding outside attempts to destabilize Guyana.[49] Jones' biggest event that fall was when he and First Lady Rosalynn Carter also both spoke at the 1976 grand opening of the San Francisco Democratic Party Headquarters.[49][5] Temple members packed the audience and Jones garnered louder applause when he spoke than Mrs. Carter.[49][5] President Carter also sent a representative to a dinner at the Temple at which Jones and then Governor Jerry Brown spoke. [50] Mrs. Carter also met Jones for a private dinner at the Stanford Court Hotel.[51] The Temple's Peoples Forum newspaper made much of the meeting, including photos of Jones and Carter together.[51] Rosalynn Carter Mrs. Carter later called Jones personally, and Jones grossly exaggerated the Peoples Forum circulation on that call, claiming it was 600,000.[51][52] Carter had no knowledge that the Temple was taping her conversation.[51] In March 1977, Jones also dined with Rosalyn Carter at the head table at the Democratic National Convention.[53] They later exchanged letters. [54] In a March 17, 1977 letter from Jones to Carter, Jones requested more aid for Cuba, then headed by Fidel Castro, whom Jones had earlier met with in Cuba.[55][56] In a handwritten reply to Jones on White House stationary, Carter wrote "Your comments on Cuba have been helpful. I hope your suggestion can be acted on in the near future." [55][57] Carter also wrote that "I enjoyed being with you during the campaign -- and do hope you can meet Ruth soon", referring to her sister Ruth Stapleton.[55][58] However brief their encounters, the Temple did receive some limited praise from administration members. In 1976, Walter Mondale stated regarding the Temple that "knowing the congregations deep involvement in the major social and constitutional issues of our country . . . is a great inspiration to me."[59] - Gay rights activist and assassinated San Francisco politician Harvey Milk was supported by the Peoples' Temple with donations, volunteers, and votes: quote: Harvey Milk, who spoke at political rallies at the Temple,[49] and wrote to Jones after a visit to the Temple: "Rev Jim, It may take me many a day to come back down from the high that I reach today. I found something dear today. I found a sense of being that makes up for all the hours and energy placed in a fight. I found what you wanted me to find. I shall be back. For I can never leave." quote: In the aftermath of their murders all mention of connections between Milk, Moscone and Jones were intentionally obscured. Out of respect for the politicians, their followers took all necessary steps to sever Milk and Moscone from the pariah Jones. It was not the only mass exodus of political support in the wake of the Jonestown tragedy. Politicians who once enjoyed volunteers, donations and votes from Peoples Temple, could not distance themselves from Jim Jones fast enough. Many of these people are still in politics today. However, upon closer inspection, it is clear that Harvey Milk was a strong advocate for Peoples Temple and Jim Jones during his political career, including the tumultuous year leading up to the Jonestown tragedy. Milk spoke at the Temple often, wrote personal letters to Jim Jones, contacted other elected officials on the Temple’s behalf, and used space in his weekly column to support the works of the Temple, even after the negative New West article went to press. Milk appeared in the pages of the Peoples Forum, the Temple newspaper, and received over fifty letters of sympathy from the residents of Jonestown when his lover, Jack Lira, killed himself in September 1978. It is readily apparent from the letters and historical memorabilia that Milk and the Temple enjoyed a mutually supportive relationship until their concurrent deaths. Why then is the relationship such a secret, even taboo to discuss? The only biography of Milk to date, The Mayor of Castro Street, by Randy Shilts, downplays the Milk/Temple relationship, even going so far as to paint Milk as one of the countless people who cruelly ridiculed and ostracized the surviving Temple members and their supporters. Like most historians, Shilts opted for an image of an expedient politician, instead of truthfully portraying how Milk worked with Peoples Temple until the end of his life. Enough time has passed since Milk’s brutal murder to reanalyze this relationship, to explore how and why Harvey Milk supported Peoples Temple. As people who hold Milk in high esteem, we should honestly and openly explore and reevaluate what we know about Peoples Temple, to see what it was about the Peoples Temple that appealed to Milk. Whether it was the Peoples Temples' pro-gay public persona, its support for embattled gay teachers, its opposition to anti-gay ballot measures, its active opposition to racism and sexism, the multiple stories throughout the pages of the Peoples Forum denouncing violence against gays and lesbians, busing of members to stack the ballots in crucial votes, or simply its acceptance of him and its continued support for his political campaigns – whatever the reason – Harvey Milk irrefutably supported Peoples Temple. It may be understandable why in November 1978 the supporters of Milk would attempt to distance the newly martyred supervisor from the still-unfolding horrors of Jonestown. However, we as witnesses, historians, researchers and writers have an obligation to tell future generations the whole truth, as we understand it, to record as much documentation as possible and let the biases and subsequent interpretations transform over time. The extent of Milk’s relationship with Peoples Temple may never be fully known. Certainly his murder, along with that of Mayor Moscone, was yet another blow to Temple survivors. Milk and Moscone were the two most powerful San Francisco politicians who maintained close ties to Jim Jones and Peoples Temple _ The Bohemian Club and Peoples Temple were headquartered within blocks of eachother in San Francisco, the gay capital of the world. - Gus Van Sant (remember him?) turns up again, to make the 2008 film 'Milk' , based on the life of Harvey Milk - Harvey Milk was assassinated on November 27, 1978, nine days after the Jonestown Massacre wiped out almost all witnesses to the Jonestown Mkultra operations. question: What did Harvey Milk know about Mkultra, dissociative programming, the six foster homes, the 40 acre ranch, the dorm near Bohemian Grove quote: Peoples' Temple in a Scottish Rite Temple Former synagogue and Scottish Rite masonic temple purchased by Jim Jones as a headquarters for Peoples' Temple. (Jones' father was a leader in the KKK). The site was renovated after the 1906 San Francisco quake. Because most of the People's Temple rank-and-file were black, and most of the leadership was white; Joyce Shaw, a former member, once mused that the mass suicide story was a cover-up for "some kind of horrible government experiments, or some sort of sick, racist thing...a plan like the Germans to exterminate blacks." "After Milk's body was cremated, the ashes were enshrined at his prior direction with bubble bath...and several packets of Kool-Aid, a clue that Milk left behind, per the will he'd revised a week before the shootings, to signify Jim Jones of the People's Temple..." Jim Jones and Mayor Moscone Mayor George Moscone's former Housing Authority chairman, the Reverend Jim Jones, had fled town in advance of a series of stories damning his People's Temple. Politicians valued the Rev. Jones because he could reliably turn out a pool of precinct canvassers. What they did not realize was that these "volunteers" were slave labor. The People's Temple tortured dissidents. Moscone, along with Supervisor Harvey Milk, it was believed, were about to blow the lid off the MK-ULTRA mind control experiments secretly continued in religious cults days before his murder at the hands of Dan White. The aim was to create suicide killers, assassins much like the middle eastern suicide bomber using a mix of psychoactive drugs, instilling religious fanaticism from birth and perfecting it in the isolation of Guyana. Charles Manson used the same technique to program a family of killers in the Manson murders of 1969. His "family" were outcasts, prostitutes, drug addicts, etc. His isolated retreat was Spahn Ranch in the California desert. His psychoactive drug of choice was LSD, and the hypnosis and conditioning employed trigger mechanisms from Beatles music, in particular The White Album. One song, "Helter Skelter", written in the victims' blood in one murder scene, was likely post-hypnotic triggered. Indeed, even after his conviction for the murders, one of Manson's followers, Squeaky Fromme, made an attempt on President Gerald Ford's life. Manson believed The White Album was an outline for a coming race war. Jonestown, Guyana was a macrocosm of the Manson family, on a much larger scale and an extension and continuation of the Mk-ULTRA program that the CIA was supposed to have ended in 1973. The wholesale cover-up of Moscone's doomed inquiries into the CIA/Jonestown connection was far reaching. Dan White trained at Fort Bragg, which is the nation's leading research centre for psychological warfare - interesting that Jim Jones was also Housing Authority chairman for San Francisco before moving his cult to Guyana which means that he oversaw 'the projects' , San Francisco's massive subsidized social housing program. which means that if Jim Jones were CIA, then the CIA was running the subsidized housing projects, and would then have keys to the residences of those people, access to the water supply, covert surveillance, human behavioral experiments, possible gas experiments in buildings etc. etc. I have long suspected that subsidized housing projects are actually 'projects' in the sense of CIA projects, just as Jonestown was a 'project'. I suspect that these 'freebies' come at a price, in that the residents of these places are covertly monitored, watched, and experimented on via the tap water, air quality, creation of youth gangs /'posses etc. grand wizards of the KKK Michael Jackson on cross as carecrow in 'The Wiz' cremation of care, burnt human sacrifice, reflected in pool reflecting pool, ala Bohemian Grove; *'The Wiz' was an all-black musical version of the Wizard of Oz, in a black urban ghetto setting quite like that which was overseen by Jim Jones as chairman of the San Francisco Housing Authority' 'projects' - 'The Wiz' movie was released 24 October 1978, 25 days prior to the Jonestown Massacre (November 18, 1978) Edited August 19, 2009 by thunkerdrone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left-Field Posted August 19, 2009 #316 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Please continue posting within this thread, thunkerdrone. I still have a lot to catch up on within it, but I do find quite a bit of the information to be interesting to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunkerdrone Posted August 19, 2009 Author #317 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Please continue posting within this thread, thunkerdrone. I still have a lot to catch up on within it, but I do find quite a bit of the information to be interesting to say the least. Thanks, BA, I like being encouraged to put the work into this, and appreciate your positive feedback. Most of the stuff I have been following is now related to things like MKultra programming, so quite a bit of what I find does not end up in this thread. I wish this stuff were not true, but sadly, it is. Worse, I fear that what is being uncovered here is both old and just a fraction of what I suspect is really going on today, things that maybe will be revealed in another ten or twenty years. To my horror, it just seems to get darker and darker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunkerdrone Posted August 22, 2009 Author #318 Share Posted August 22, 2009 (edited) The former headquarters of Jim Jones' 'Peoples Temple' religion [A](Albert Pike Memorial Scottish Rite Temple, 1859 Geary Boulevard) is a six minute drive away from The Bohemian Club headquarters in San Francisco. Albert Pike was co-founder of the Ku Klux Klan Bohemian Grove ritual quote: Maxine Harpe grew up in the small Northern California town of Willits where she married her high school sweetheart, had three children and settled down to a quiet life in Talmadge, that is until 1969, when Jim Jones targeted her for assassination. In a little more than a year, Jones and his aides would destroy Maxine's marriage, family, career, and love affair. They would steal her children and her life savings and drive her to the brink of suicide. Temple strongarm man and Mendocino County Welfare worker, Jim Randolph, initiated a love affair with Maxine intended to break up her marriage and bring her into the congregation. Every relationship pursued by Jim Randolph, or any other Temple member, required the prior approval of the Temple's Relationship Committee and Jim Jones, who not only issued binding judgments on proposed relationships, but also proposed many himself. Maxine quickly fell in love with Randolph; attesting to Jones' ability to pair villain with victim. Spurred by Randolph's encouragement, Maxine left her husband and moved into a Temple communal house with her three children and Temple member Mary Candoo. During this difficult transition period, Maxine was counseled and encouraged by her welfare caseworker, Linda Sharon Amos, a high ranking Temple aide who claimed to have once been a member of Charles Manson 's gang. Amos helped Maxine secure a job as a dental assistant at the Mendocino State Mental Hospital in Talmadge. Linda Amos and Jim Randolph were only two of the estimated fifty Temple members who had infiltrated government agencies in Mendocino County, but their function in the Welfare Department was one of particular importance to Jim Jones. Together with their colleagues, Amos and Randolph were able to license several Temple operated foster care homes and protect several additional homes that were unlicensed and illegal. Jones convinced his congregation that their children would have a richer life experience living apart from their parents. Families were disbanded and a the children, who were now eligible for welfare assistance, were placed in Temple foster homes. The children's welfare support checks were signed over to the Temple and provided a substantial portion of Jones' government subsidy. The Temple welfare activities were not restricted to simple fraud; many Black children were taken from the ghettos of San Francisco and Oakland using tactics that bordered on kidnapping. The illegal use of the Mendocino County Welfare Department appeared to escape the attention of the Department director Dennis Denny. Though it was impossible to ignore the Temple foster care homes and to ignore the the Temple welfare case workers, Denny never seemed to make the connection. Carrie Minkler was one of the few case workers in the Welfare Department who was not a member of the Peoples Temple. Ms. Minkler, now retired, recalls working with Amos, Randolph and other Temple members: "You didn't open your mouth. You didn't mention the Peoples Temple in our department. Even the walls had ears. There wasn't anything that went on in our office that Jim Jones didn't know the next day...Peoples Temple workers went through other workers' case files. The CIA could have used them. The atmosphere was really tense." It didn't take long to surround Maxine. She had a Temple lover, a Temple house with a Temple roommate, a Temple social worker, a Temple job with Temple co-workers, even the attorney representing her in the divorce case was Temple attorney Tim Stoen. The Temple was also Maxine's religion and recreation. By March of 1970, every aspect of her life depended upon the Peoples Temple as Jim Jones pulled the plug on her life support system. Three weeks before her death, Maxine received a check for $2,493.81; her share of the divorce settlement. She signed the check over to Randolph, whe deposited $2,000.00 in his personal checking account and $493.81 in his savings account, as per Jones' instructions. Once her life savings were safely in Temple hands, everything bad happened to Maxine at once. Jones ordered Randolph to end his relationship with Maxine and she was heartbroken. She was fired from her job. She had no means of support; Randolph had all her money and wouldn't give it back. She went to Linda Amos for financial assistance from the Welfare Department, but Amos not only denied her request but, in addition, judged her a "mental depressant" and threatened to place her children in a Temple foster care home as she was unfit to be a parent. Her roommate, Mary Candoo, would certainly parrot Amos' accusations. Maxine realized she was under siege by a well organized attacker and sought help from her attorney, Tim Stoen, but, of course, her protest fell on deaf ears. She then turned to the one man who seemed to be at the center of her problem. She confronted Jones the day before her death. Jones was furious and thoroughly humiliated Maxine in front of Randolph and other Temple members who remember him saying, "Why don't you just kill yourself? Get it over with!.... At least Judas had the guts to kill himself. Others recall Jones predicting, "That b**** (Maxine) is going to die," just one day before she did. Everywhere she turned, Maxine felt an ever increasing hostility. After the March 27th confrontation with Jones, she was so afraid the Temple would take a more physical approach to their harassment that she made a special request to bring home a houseful of Temple children, whose presence, she hoped, would discourage a physical assault. She was wrong. On March 28th at 1:30 AM, one of the children spending the night at Maxine's house wandered into the garage to find Maxine dead; hung by an electrical extension cord from the roof rafters. A hastily scribbled suicide note on a torn grocery bag instructed the children to phone the Temple in Redwood Valley and wait in the house until they arrived. Jim Jones, Jim Randolph, Patty Cartmell and Jack Beam arrived at Maxine's house sometime before dawn. Jones waited outside in the car while the others put on surgical gloves and entered the house to remove any evidence of Maxine's involvement with the People's Temple. They untied the body, lowered it to the garage floor and disrobed it to remove a red prayer cloth that belted the waist. Temple members often wore these blessed prayer cloths in concealed places on their person. The body was then redressed and rehung, carefully re-staging the scene for the police investigator. The aides then ransacked the house to locate and remove anything that might associate Maxine with the Temple. They completed their work at approximately 8:30 AM, instructed the children to phone the police, and left. Jones was safe in his Redwood Valley parsonage at 8:57 AM when Deputy Sheriff-Coroner, Bruce Cochran, arrived at the death scene in Talmadge. Twenty minutes later, Randolph, Cartmell and Beam returned to the house and informed Deputy Cochran that the children had phoned them but that they really didn't know why as they had never met the dead woman. Cartmell convinced Deputy Cochran that she should remove the children from such a gruesome scene, and consequently, he never got the opportunity to question the only eyewitnesses. One of the children, nine year old Tommy Ijames, would later recall the event: "The children called the church before they called the police, and they came very early in the morning. They came in there and took all the pictures of Jim Jones out. .. (prayer) cloths they took from her, pulled her down off the (rafter) and took them off her waist, anything that had to do with the church... Jim (Jones), he stayed in the car and didn't come out... They pulled her down and they took the clothes off her... They were taking all the... little pamphlets of Jim Jones, and then (after the coroner arrived) they acted like they didn't know her...." The Temple death squad had left Maxine's house twenty minutes before the coroner arrived and returned just twenty minutes after he arrived. They allowed him enough time to assume that he was the first adult on the scene, but not enough time to question the children, who were quickly transported away. Such impeccable timing was typical of Temple operations. Like the other agencies in Mendocino County, Jones had spies in the Sheriff's office who informed him of their every move. Deputy Cochran's subsequent investigation proceeded exactly as Jones had planned. It was Cochran's job to be suspicious and he was. There was the unusual placement of a trunk under Maxine's feet and the unexplained presence of children and adults, all of whom were members of the Peoples Temple. But eventually his investigation was to center on Maxine's financial transactions just prior to her death. Cochran contacted Jim Randolph's boss, Welfare Director, Dennis Denny, questioning the legality of a welfare worker depositing a welfare recipient' check in his personal account; especially when that same welfare worker was present at the scene of the recipient's apparent suicide just three weeks later. Denny defended Randolph's actions and assured Cochran that there was no reason to suspect foul play or improper conduct, but Cochran was not satisfied. He pressured Randolph for a deposition regarding his role in Maxine's finances and reluctantly he complied. In a sworn statement, Randolph told the police that a few weeks after receiving the money, he transferred $2,000.00 from his savings account to Temple treasurer, Eva Pugh, to set up a trust fund for Maxine's children. He held the remaining $493.81 until three days after Maxine's death when he added that to the fund as well. If Randolph's statement is to be believed it would seem that he helped establish a fund for Maxine's children before herdeath. Randolph completed the deposition but refused to sign it until Assistant District Attorney and Peoples Temple attorney Tim Stoen had the opportunity to review the statement. Randolph stalled, Stoen stalled, and the statement was never signed. It was Tim Stoen who finally convinced Cochran to drop the investigation when he informed him that he (Stoen) was co- trustee of the children's fund, along with, of all people, Cochran's boss, Sheriff Reno Bartolmei. Also, to disguise their true involvement, the Peoples Temple had contributed an additional $470.00 to the fund, that together with the initial money and the accumulated bank interest, totaled $3,000.00 for the three children. Linda Amos, Maxine's welfare case worker, buttressed Stoen's statements with her volunteered testimony as to Maxine's depressed state of mind just prior to what certainly must have been her suicide. Cochran's investigation quickly lost momentum. Maxine's death was declared a suicide. The case was closed and, despite future pleas from ex-Temple members and the press, it was never reopened. Richard Taylor, a local Baptist minister who knew Maxine Harpe, was not satisfied with the superficial investigation into what he believed as murder. Aware that the Temple controlled most of Mendocino County, Taylor presented his arguments in a long letter he sent to the state attorney general's office in which he asked the state to investigate Jim Jones' role in Maxine Harpe's death. Taylor was invited to present his evidence to a deputy in the attorney general's office but when he appeared to testify in Sacramento, his notes on Jones were confiscated and he was told that there would be no investigation due to "insufficient evidence." Immediately upon his return to Ukiah, Taylor and his wife were deluged with threatening phone calls that they believed "originated from the People's Temple." Intimidated and frightened, the minister dropped all attempts to prove that Jim Jones had ordered Maxine Harpe's death. Randolph may have avoided signing a statement for the police but he did not avoid signing a blank statement for Jim Jones. It wasn't long before he realized his mistake when Jones presented him with a copy of his previously signed blank statement which was now a typed confession to the murder of Maxine Harpe. Only then did he understand why Jones had instructed him to deposit Maxine's money in his personal bank account and why he insisted Randolph be present at the scene of the crime. The police already suspected him, and their suspicion, along with the signed confession, would certainly convict him of murder; especially since the foreman of the Mendocino Grand Jury, who would bring down the indictment, was none other than Jim Jones. Randolph was promoted to the Angels and his only way out was a lifetime sentence in prison. To further implicate him in Maxine's death, Jones called him in front of a closed meeting of the Temple's Planning Commission and, with a dozen witnesses present, he accused Randolph of killing Maxine. He shouted, "You know you did it (killed Maxine)!" But for all of Jones's badgering, Randolph said nothing in his own defense. Rumors of the Temple's involvement in the death of Maxine Harpe continued to circulate in the press. Two and a half years later, Lester Kinsolving penned a series of articles in the San Francisco Examiner, in which he accused Temple attorney Tim Stoen of wrongdoing in his counseling of Maxine just prior to her alleged suicide. Stoen refuted the charges in a statement that appeared in the Ukiah Daily Journal, dated September 21, 1972, in which he said: "The woman referred to (who was not, incidentally, a member of my church) was somebody I did not know, had never talked with, and certainly had never counseled." Stoen could not have forgotten that he represented Maxine in her divorce or that he was a custodian of the fund for her children or was instrumental in suppressing the coroner's investigation into her death. He must have felt extremely threatened to publicly report such a blatant, bold-faced lie. Jones profited from Maxine's death in several ways. He gained a new Angel; a competent, intelligent slave, Jim Randolph. He received the $3,000.00 trust fund and the three children who, following their mother's funeral, were placed in Temple foster homes and enrolled in the welfare system. Their welfare support checks were signed over to the Temple that profited at least $10,000.00 from overcharging the welfare system and under-caring for the children. In 1977, a special prosecution unit of the San Francisco District Attorney's Office, looking into allegations of illegal activities in the Peoples Temple, cited what their subsequent report termed "Welfare Diversion," but rather than pursue the investigation, the DA's office referred the matter to the city's Department of Social Services and the City Comptroller's Office with the recommendation that any evidence that surfaced should be submitted to the DA's welfare fraud expert, Don Didler. Didler, following the lead of Mendocino County's Welfare Director, Dennis Denny, did absolutely nothing. Together, Didler and Denny were very effective in protecting the Temple's federal welfare subsidy. In retrospect, Maxine Harpe's story was a study in microcosm of the events that would occur some eight years later in Jonestown, Guyana. In both cases, the victims were systematically stripped of all self-esteem and lured into a total dependence on Jim Jones, who, at the proper time, denied them everything. Suicide appeared to be the best, if not the only, alternative. It will never be known whether Maxine's death was a suicide or a murder. She may or may not have actually wrapped the wire around her neck, just as the residents of Jonestown may or may not have voluntarily taken poison; regardless, there is no doubt that Jim Jones killed them all. The Maxine Harpe death is but one of a half-dozen unsolved killings connected to People's Temple during its California phase. Edited August 22, 2009 by thunkerdrone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunkerdrone Posted August 23, 2009 Author #319 Share Posted August 23, 2009 video: CIA and Jonestown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunkerdrone Posted August 23, 2009 Author #320 Share Posted August 23, 2009 The following films Expose how the Peoples Temple took over Mendocino County and Ultimately moved many Mendocino County FOSTER CHILDREN to Guyana. The Ridgewood Ranch where the famous horse Seabisquit lived is the original site of the Peoples Temple in Mendocino County. There were many murders in Mendocino County Maxine Harp etc at that time who were never investigated by the Peoples Temple ran DA's Office. Jim Jones & People's Temple [1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs8L57hWgLs Jim Jones & People's Temple [2] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn6bU1PzBA0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunkerdrone Posted August 23, 2009 Author #321 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Jim Jones & People's Temple [3] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BEUONzuMl0 Jim Jones & People's Temple [4] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8MZ93QkUC0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunkerdrone Posted August 23, 2009 Author #322 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Jim Jones & People's Temple [5] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=844HveAbiJQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left-Field Posted August 23, 2009 #323 Share Posted August 23, 2009 It's amazing what can take place in the world, or even in your own countries backyard, that the general public is willing to overlook without demanding answers. Hell, most don't even think about demanding answers before they just decide to close their eyes and turn away from the atrocities that happen. Then they put themselves into such a state of disbelief, they actually rally in defense of those that have persecuted the innocent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunkerdrone Posted August 24, 2009 Author #324 Share Posted August 24, 2009 It's amazing what can take place in the world, or even in your own countries backyard, that the general public is willing to overlook without demanding answers. Hell, most don't even think about demanding answers before they just decide to close their eyes and turn away from the atrocities that happen. Then they put themselves into such a state of disbelief, they actually rally in defense of those that have persecuted the innocent. the majority of the public are never given the full truth, so it is impossible for them to react appropriately to things that are kept hidden from them. Even the people here on this forum have to dig very deep to find even glimmerings of what is going on. Take heart , though. People know that something is wrong on so many levels, and they are beginning to be receptive to new information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunkerdrone Posted August 24, 2009 Author #325 Share Posted August 24, 2009 (edited) video: occultist Kenneth Angers' short 30 min. film Scorpio Rising (1963/64) on 1950s' Hells Angels subculture mind control elements include dolls/wind up toys, masked biker orgy featuring homosexual gang rape, Skull n' Bones society military style regalia, leather bondage and chains, and nazi symbolism. (notable too is that this film was created the same year that the CIA/Skull n' Bones assassinated JFK, and released in 1964. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gDFE9JUT7A For some reason only Part 1 is available on Youtube, about 1/3 of the film. the whole film is available unsegmented on Google video but for some reason I cannot embed the video link in this forum. To see the whole thing on google video click this link: http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-4704748884284449320&ei=30V5Su-GKMXvlQe7xZ3XDA&q=scorpio+rising&hl=en Kenneth Anger was an associate of Bobby Beausoleil/Charles Manson underground. Kenneth Anger was born in Santa Monica, California as Kenneth Wilbur Angelmyer[1] (Jewish german) and attended the Maurice Kossloff Dancing School with Shirley Temple and Judy Garland. and now for something sort of sickening: 1963 commercial, the same year JFK tried to get Americans out of the lock-step march to Vietnam, and was shot in the head. ever heard the stories of the Vietnam corpses coming back stuffed with cocaine, minus their internal organs? Who ate those? Edited August 24, 2009 by thunkerdrone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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